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Gideon020 posted:I wonder if Guandong can use any of these subsidized weapons for its own defense eventually? you know how there's a military attache to the Home Islands all our protagonists report to he is here because the home islands provide for their defense. and if Guandong starts trying to provide for its own defense, to quickly nip that in the bud. preferably via pistol shots in a backroom, before it becomes machine guns in the streets. real world history detail! South Korea's army, for the duration of the Korean War, was absolutely dogshit, and why this was confused the hell out of American planners. mostly because American planners were both new to colonial administration and racist as gently caress. the South Korean army had been built, from the ground up, to never fight a war, because a Korean government with a real army was a Korean government that might be able to tell their overlords to gently caress off. what it was there to to was to keep its people from rioting too hard against their imperial overlords, and to be a speedbump while the imperial Japanese army arrived in the event of an invasion. then when the Korean War broke out America started off with 'hey handle an invasion on your own' ever see a guy try to drive in a screw with a hammer
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Huh. I see your point.
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QuoProQuid posted:grim outcome in africa, by the way grim and surprising. not sure I've ever seen a total Schild victory without a player being involved.
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I don't want to get too far into the different ways world events can play out (because I might want to show them off from one side or another in a future run), but in this case I will say that I was surprised too since I boosted South Africa two ticks because the war usually lasts much shorter and it shouldn't.
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Oh boy, this bodes well for future events. Nothing like HoI AI throwing a curve ball.
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It's a bit of a coin toss because the Schild can very quickly make some breakthroughs and take Cape Town, which rapidly collapses the whole South African positions partly because it messes up supply for the volunteers. It's very easy for the bulk of the OFN forces to be tied up in the east since that's where most of the front is, while the critical point is usually along the western coast. As a player that's where you'll want to plop down your first set of volunteers early on, because then the AI usually can grind out a stalemate on its own. It's not so much a stats thing as an AI thing. Morrow fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Jun 15, 2023 |
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Mexico, Sony and Matsuhita. Glad to see thread participants have been resisting the urge to go for the maximum chaos that Paradox LPs so often fall into.
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I saw vids of a Hitachi/IJA Endstate. I'd take any other result than those. shudder
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OK, now we're all starting to edge into spoilers territory, which is something I'd prefer to avoid! Lots of things can and will be surprises for the vast majority of readers.
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Whoops, sorry.
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Thanks for keeping a tight lid on spoilers. A lot of these routes are new to me so I'm hoping to keep up the suspense. Good LP, by the way
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Like I said before, I want it to be a real surprise when the thread accidentally votes for all the requirements of the secret Chief Executive Bruce Lee ending.
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Gideon020 posted:I saw vids of a Hitachi/IJA Endstate. I'd take any other result than those. shudder So you're saying Hitachi is making you shudder 
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Haven't actually ever picked Hitachi for the product cycle so I wonder if the magic wand is in there lol
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Chapter 15: May - December 1965 A deal is struck.   Ibuka is real mad about it, which means it was probably the right thing to do.   Despite grumblings from our resident wannabe war criminal, Sony’s experimental tanks arrive on Java.  The initial results are somewhat underwhelming, however.  quote:The Displaced Family quote:The Good Cop quote:The Modern Princess  There is no time to rest, however.  quote:The Modern Princess    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OByqAxGeW84 quote:World News   In Indonesia, the testing is going well, which is good, because …  … the war will probably be over soon as the anti-Soekarno forces have all but completely collapsed. quote:The Struggling Founder  Back home the Public Health Ordinance goes to the floor of the Legislative Council and we are, once again, a bit short.  Perfect is the enemy of good, and something is better than nothing. We take the deal.   With enough Matsushita seats on board, we can comfortably tell Fujitsu and Hitachi to go pound sand.   Nature is … healing? quote:World News 1965 draws to a close, and it has been a significant year in Guangdong. Two major regulatory changes have been passed by the Legislative Council, enshrining and reinforcing former Chief Executive Suzuki’s labor protection standards and introducing environmental control regulations. But there is much, much more to be accomplished. So much more that it’s difficult to know where to start first.    Already, Chief Executive Morita’s army of clerks and lawyers are drafting an entire host of legislation to announce for 1966 and 67. Among them are three land reform proposals, a way to maintain Guangdong’s solvency through this spending bonanza, and two ordinances to harness the power of the people of Guangdong. In addition, aids to Morita and Li have been whispering about a plan being put together that would tackle organized crime. The question they are asking isn’t “what should we do,” the question is “where should we start?”  VOTE Choose one of the options bolded above, and when you do also vote for a path to take towards passing it as seen in the focus screenshots. For example: quote:Reform the civil service with full localization or quote:Public works, efficient transportation or quote:go after organized crime
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We can't do anything without money, so we need to maintain Guangdong’s solvency by settling our debts with the Zhujin.
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McGavin posted:We can't do anything without money, so we need to maintain Guangdong’s solvency by settling our debts with the Zhujin. I agree with this - Maintain our solvency through setlling debts with the Zhujin. Eventually, I think Guangdong should wean itself off Japan and attract other investors or rely upon its own people. All Japan seems to do is complain and lose wars in the pacific. This vote is pretty confusing. I'm sticking with my answer, but am I right in that the options are represented through the three different trees? With "The Land We Stand On" root being "harness the power of the people", the solvency options being fairly evident, and maybe "The Quagmires of Tomorrow" root somehow has something to do with crime?
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"Quagmires of Tomorrow" leads to two acts, one reforming the civil service and one addressing either the housing or the school shortage. Or we can forgo legislation for now and focus on fighting organized crime. e: top one is land reform
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Solvency, Zhujin debts
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McGavin posted:We can't do anything without money, so we need to maintain Guangdong’s solvency by settling our debts with the Zhujin. Agreed, we can't do anything if we get tossed out for poor finances.
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Solvency through offering contracts to the Zhujin
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Jun 17, 2023 09:33
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I wonder what kind of interesting person has decided to test the infrared sights during hot day instead of night.
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Solvency thru Zhujin pls. Guessing we can work with the triads and Stanley Ho anyways. Maybe bully the yakuza a lil.
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Settle our debts to the Zhujin
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Yeah, sorry this vote was kinda unclear what I was asking. I'll do the Solvency Act next, the organized crime tree, then probably a stand alone update which explains the next choices.
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Solvency through offering contracts to the Zhujin Economy can easy become our Achilles' heel: once we are steady, we can go on.
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Oh, were you asking for a vote on each section? In that case: Solvency via Zhujin Full Localisation through the Civil Service Solve The Housing Crisis Rural Development via Employment Offers
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FYI, there will be a hotfix on Tuesday to resolve some bugs and reduce lag. It will probably break saves, so I would try to avoid updating the mod unless you want to replay through up to this point
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Yep, I saw, but thanks. Should just be a matter of keeping an eye on Steam and when it schedules an update cancel the download, right?Gideon020 posted:Oh, were you asking for a vote on each section? Nah, I was looking for which bill to pursue next and which version of it we would introduce, but I didn't do a good enough job explaining what they would do. Like I said, I'll do it better next time. Which, by the by, will not be in the next update, as our legislative agenda is about to become OBE -- Overcome By Events.
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Chapter 16: January - May 1966    1966 and the Year of the Horse dawn on a hopeful note for Guangdong, her people, and Asia.  … with the occasional reminder of how much more there is to be done. quote:World News    And the decision has already been made.  quote:The Good Cop quote:World News   To the Chief Executives delighted surprise, the bill proves popular enough as-is to garner a majority of votes!    There will be no need for compromises, no need for bribery.  Which is good because, under the surface, things are starting to move.  The underworld is restless; their street sense telling them that something big is in the works.   And the Kempeitai have suddenly gotten much more aggressive. It doesn’t take the Chief Executive long to connect the dots.   Hitachi is making their move.  Fortunately, they are starting from an extreme deficit. Had we shown them more favor in the past they could already be on the verge of taking control. And so, they begin to resort to more clever disruptions.   First attacking the markets …  … and then Guangdong’s trade links themselves. Something has to be done.       These are our choices.    And this is where we stand. VOTE Who do we turn to for help?
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China I know the actual answer is because the mod authors love writing about Russia and see it as the protagonist of the mod, but is there some kind of in-universe explanation how the extremely shattered russian territories that have been basically mad max for a generation are supposed to be able to take on a victorious fourth reich once someone reunifies Russia tatankatonk fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Jun 18, 2023 |
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I'm gonna bet it'd be by exploiting the various reichlings nuking each other in a civil war.
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The german major leaders all hate each other along with the fascist forces slowly collapsing internally from the rot of his poorly the nazis actually are running things.
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tatankatonk posted:China Russia is generally where all sense and reason within the mod goes to die. I don't know if it's still in but Zhadanov could get working laser anti aircraft guns. While that was a project that did exist in real life, it was developed way later and abandoned. Apparently turning into an anarchic wasteland allows the soviets to invent and mass produce the project about two decades earlier.
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Germany won the war and shattered Russia, and no major power that's been devastated by war has ever pulled themselves together again and become a threat to the countries they fought before. Wait ...
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tatankatonk posted:China the current lore is that the soviet government collapsed in 1945 but that the "second smuta" didn't start until 1956. that said, the dev team is very aware that a match-up between russia and germany is not fair and in a traditional, symmetrical conflict, russia would probably get pancaked. there are some liberties taken because it's a game and a desire to explore different narrative possibilities, but no one is in depicting an "easy war" or whatever Carvor posted:Russia is generally where all sense and reason within the mod goes to die. I don't know if it's still in but Zhadanov could get working laser anti aircraft guns. While that was a project that did exist in real life, it was developed way later and abandoned. Apparently turning into an anarchic wasteland allows the soviets to invent and mass produce the project about two decades earlier. im not going to go into detail because the LP may want to explore these different routes but a few things in TNO are there because they're interesting to explore. most people involved in the mod don't really care about providing perfect realism so much as providing an interesting and internally consistent narrative. QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Jun 19, 2023 |
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