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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

A Bad King posted:

voxel graphics were real treats for the eyes when done right.

those terrible paintball shooter games using the duke nukem engine.

anyone else remember when Dreamcast used powervr, only rendering what was visible to the camera and saving processing power for its hitachi risc chip?

I really liked the game... whose name instantly forgot as soo as I started typing this :negative: the one with the portals and ugly aliens and voxels.

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Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

laserghost posted:

The Build engine is interesting not only because it was basically made by a teenager who was mostly working on his own, without much understanding how such a project should be directed, but also it was weirdly prolific in a various odd projects, like said paintball game, a duology of jingoistic war games made by a right-wing shithead, a pirate-themed FPS made by the same fuckhead, an ambitious quasi-religious game that was never finished, another duo of war games made by teenagers from Scandinavia, that was sold in stores and finally a very neat and stylish vaporwave walking simulator that used to be on Steam before the publisher got banned for scamming Valve

ken silverman has one of those web pages that's straight from the 90s still up

http://advsys.net/ken/

A Bad King
Jul 17, 2009


Suppose the oil man,
He comes to town.
And you don't lay money down.

Yet Mr. King,
He killed the thread
The other day.
Well I wonder.
Who's gonna go to Hell?

:golfclap:



laserghost posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw5Ya2IdDKU

The Build engine is interesting not only because it was basically made by a teenager who was mostly working on his own, without much understanding how such a project should be directed, but also it was weirdly prolific in a various odd projects, like said paintball game, a duology of jingoistic war games made by a right-wing shithead, a pirate-themed FPS made by the same fuckhead, an ambitious quasi-religious game that was never finished, another duo of war games made by teenagers from Scandinavia, that was sold in stores and finally a very neat and stylish vaporwave walking simulator that used to be on Steam before the publisher got banned for scamming Valve

I believe it was prevalent because by 1998, it was cheap to license. You could go with Quake II, for a princely $550k with id's support, or maybe even Lithtech for a couple grand and make something fun. Or, hear me out, throw Ken and Co $50 and a keg. Suddenly you're free to make Biscuit Shooter 2000AD, sold for $12 at the Kmart bin.

This is an oversimplification but by '00, Build was being put into games because Ken was giving it away, I remember.

Edit:Maximum PC would even review your little hobby game and trounce it for its graphics or whatnot, and we all know negative attention is still attention.

A Bad King fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Jul 15, 2023

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

It was Outcast.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Beve Stuscemi posted:

do they even make tn panels anymore?

there are still quite a few va panels out there because they go hand in hand with high refresh rate for some reason.

you bet. either that, or there are just so many surplus panels that they're still getting into new monitors. don't discount how goddamn cheap most people are.

when i started my current job about two years ago, they gave me a pair of 1080p, 27", curved, TN panel monitors and i couldn't stand it. as soon as i got a company credit card i expensed some IPS monitors. somehow, all my coworkers seem not to mind the curved TNs with abysmal pixel density and massive screendoor effect.

i guess it's the modern version of your friend who kept his 21" CRT at 60Hz all the time without noticing anything was wrong.

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


i would rather deal with too-little screen real estate than too-slow refresh rate, but i would see diminishing returns on refresh above 120Hz sooner than i’d see them on more screens/resolution

laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.

The_Franz posted:

ken silverman has one of those web pages that's straight from the 90s still up

http://advsys.net/ken/

yeah, and he posted there some very interesting projects, of which none are finished or even documented properly. he even made Build2 engine, which after all these years has found use in precisely zero games, even the tiniest hobby projects. sucks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qtmkkdND6M

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

laserghost posted:

yeah, and he posted there some very interesting projects, of which none are finished or even documented properly. he even made Build2 engine, which after all these years has found use in precisely zero games, even the tiniest hobby projects. sucks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qtmkkdND6M

By the time they started talking about features for Build 2, I was just getting sad for this guy.

Sector over sector support! Actual dynamic lighting! Turn sprites into 3d objects! Six degrees of freedom movement!

It seems like he's just desperately hoping to make an offer for Duke3D 2 appear out of thin air.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Volmarias posted:

By the time they started talking about features for Build 2, I was just getting sad for this guy.

Sector over sector support! Actual dynamic lighting! Turn sprites into 3d objects! Six degrees of freedom movement!

It seems like he's just desperately hoping to make an offer for Duke3D 2 appear out of thin air.

forget duke3d, make ken's labyrinth 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JH2kezTnRg

ken silverman is basically a programming one-hit-wunderkind, as after the build engine, it seems like he just sat in his parents' attic playing with experimental voxel stuff or trying to make png files a few bytes smaller. nothing that really went anywhere

The_Franz fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Jul 16, 2023

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
Meanwhile Carmack continued to be a major backbone for gamedev engines until he was snapped up to do VR. Both of them are still assholes though.

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face
ken silverman is an rear end in a top hat? what did he do

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

nudgenudgetilt posted:

i recently saved our office from getting a bunch of 4k 60hz monitors with built in netflix.

some engineer recommended the goofy things and operations was on the verge of buying them til i stepped in and changed the order to these beasts: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B6Q71X58/ref=twister_B0BMQ8FCRY

congratulations on forcing your coworkers to use stupid pieces of low-resolution garbage

I bet your coworkers are going to love you so much for it

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

eschaton posted:

congratulations on forcing your coworkers to use stupid pieces of low-resolution garbage

I bet your coworkers are going to love you so much for it

yeah those extra 400 pixels really make all the difference :rolleyes:

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
those 400 pixels could have held the cure to cancer, sargebush.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

rotor posted:

those 400 pixels could have held the cure to cancer, sargebush.
or those 400 pixels could have grown up to be the next hitler

something to think about, rotor

well-read undead
Dec 13, 2022

a lot of lessons learned here tonight

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


totse

looking back half of that must have been an fbi "incorrect by design" op

other people posted:

what if I'm checking my email in emacs?

turn your monitor off, sigh, and go outside

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

totse

looking back half of that must have been an fbi "incorrect by design" op

turn your monitor off, sigh, and go outside

lol wikipedia says of totse "It has also been compared to shock sites such as Rotten.com, Stile Project and Something Awful."

A Bad King
Jul 17, 2009


Suppose the oil man,
He comes to town.
And you don't lay money down.

Yet Mr. King,
He killed the thread
The other day.
Well I wonder.
Who's gonna go to Hell?
120Hz is great because you don't need to spend money on a high end GPU to render your ten Hurd VMs. You can depend on a mid-range GPU and the savings on a Threadripper.

Internet Old One
Dec 6, 2021

Coke Adds Life

The_Franz posted:

ken silverman has one of those web pages that's straight from the 90s still up

http://advsys.net/ken/

I like that has a download for a qbasic number guessing game he wrote when he was 14 with accurate file dates.

git apologist
Jun 4, 2003

Carthag Tuek posted:

I biked 2km home from I was 5 years old

same, i used to bike around all over our small town as a 5 year old, including to and from school

also me and my buddies would leave the house in the morning and just spaz around all day long biking around together without adults, doing whatever tf we wanted then come home for dinner or whatever. this was the mid 80s so not that long ago. my mum was solo and working night shift, dad long gone

that just would not happen now. i think my 6 year old could actually handle it but it’s just not how kids do these days

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

git apologist posted:

the mid 80s so not that long ago.

closing in on 40 years lol

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

I still have a few books I got in the 1980s that I haven't read yet. (Although fewer than a few years ago when I noticed it and started to correct the situation.)

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

git apologist posted:

same, i used to bike around all over our small town as a 5 year old, including to and from school

also me and my buddies would leave the house in the morning and just spaz around all day long biking around together without adults, doing whatever tf we wanted then come home for dinner or whatever. this was the mid 80s so not that long ago. my mum was solo and working night shift, dad long gone

that just would not happen now. i think my 6 year old could actually handle it but it’s just not how kids do these days

My friends and I threw leftover asphalt roofing shingles at each other at that age, because they flew like frisbees, and were sharp and painful if they hit you, so it was fun.

The 80s were a different time.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



it's all relative, my dad played with his friends in a bog 20km from any houses

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
https://twitter.com/torbar/status/1681073517989617664?s=20

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



Carthag Tuek posted:

it's all relative, my dad played with his friends in a bog 20km from any houses

lol, my mom and her siblings and friends would go into big drainage pipes by a huge retention pond when there was a dry spell and wander way down and yell at people from openings

we merely biked there and didn't antagonize the local population


that which is dead can never die :unsmigghh:

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome
used old palmpilots were the rpis of their day

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face
i said it in the images thread and i'll say it again, the palm m series was garbage

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



rotor posted:

used old palmpilots were the rpis of their day

:hmmyes:

i found my old backups for my t|e and visor and i'm tempted to find the dock for the visor first because it runs on AAAs and i want a universal remote again. never mind the turning sideways thing

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Beeftweeter posted:

i said it in the images thread and i'll say it again, the palm m series was garbage

this is the rare exception to the rules that i will allow, because its true

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

rotor posted:

this is the rare exception to the rules that i will allow, because its true

err i mean m1xx. i loved my m515 but the 505 sucked rear end. the m series is a land of (poor) contrasts

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


Carthag Tuek posted:

it's all relative, my dad played with his friends in a bog 20km from any houses

there was one summer in about 1992 where I spent the week with everyone else in the local area hurling chunks of dried earth at each other from either side of a nearby field in some sort of team fortress type war

Roosevelt
Jul 18, 2009

I'm looking for the man who shot my paw.

Carthag Tuek posted:

it's all relative, my dad played with his friends in a bog 20km from any houses

is that how he met your mother?

outhole surfer
Mar 18, 2003

quick snog in the bog

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

nudgenudgetilt posted:

snog in the bog

title of the porno remake of shrek

outhole surfer
Mar 18, 2003

also describes hbags behavior at the pub

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Agile Vector posted:

lol, my mom and her siblings and friends would go into big drainage pipes by a huge retention pond when there was a dry spell and wander way down and yell at people from openings

we merely biked there and didn't antagonize the local population

Congrats to your mom on being the clown from IT

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Volmarias posted:

The clown from IT

That's what half this subforum is called at work.

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