bob dobbs is dead posted:never heard of manufacturing or insurance paying well for touchers Insurance rocks and pays just fine ime - it’s a profitable and laid back vertical. Manufacturing is the ninth circle of hell
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2023 12:17
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 27, 2024 08:16 |
|
|
says in levels.fyi that geico pays median 120k tc (as low as 66k) and state farm pays median 110k tc for dev? median salary in figgielands prime and secondus are about at 230k so all you'd need to do is move and get a median job to double that bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Jul 23, 2023 |
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2023 12:35
|
|
|
Not familiar with how either of those companies operate and I don’t see any insurance companies I’ve worked with on levels so I can’t really help you out here.
|
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2023 12:46
|
|
|
bob dobbs is dead posted:says in levels.fyi that geico pays median 120k tc (as low as 66k) and state farm pays median 110k tc for dev? you also don't have to talk to sf dipshits, basically ever
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2023 13:10
|
|
|
you're giving up half for that privilege, not an insignificant amount, is the rub
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2023 13:34
|
|
|
bob dobbs is dead posted:never heard of manufacturing or insurance paying well for touchers yeah i’ve consulted for all three and did not get that impression either. insurance was particularly bad in terms insane bullshit as well
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2023 13:52
|
|
|
rotor posted:doublecame is this a sex thing
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2023 14:47
|
|
|
Kernel Sanders posted:my one weird trick is to work at places that developers think are boring - banks, insurance companies, manufacturing. they pay well, don’t understaff and i never think about work outside of work. same, op highly recommend
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2023 15:04
|
|
|
bob dobbs is dead posted:says in levels.fyi that geico pays median 120k tc (as low as 66k) and state farm pays median 110k tc for dev? figgyland prime COL means 120k in not SV is probably the same or similar spending power as $230k in SV $175k in the Midwest is very comfortable
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2023 15:05
|
|
|
I make $150k tangential to finance and apart from ~1 month/year its very chill with no on call. I'm also fully remote and moving and they're not trying to pull any col adjustment shenanigans on me
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2023 16:35
|
|
|
bob dobbs is dead posted:says in levels.fyi that geico pays median 120k tc (as low as 66k) and state farm pays median 110k tc for dev? what will happen to his cost of living in that arrangement
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2023 16:48
|
|
|
post hole digger posted:what will happen to his cost of living in that arrangement even if it doubles, you've still doubled your discretionary/savings/entertainment budget
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2023 16:51
|
|
|
doubles if they buy land, increases like 30% if they dont so thats just volume CXVII in "land is a gently caress"
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2023 16:52
|
|
|
Sapozhnik posted:if i wanted to be overworked, underpaid, and getting regularly screamed at by coked-up rich assholes i'd go work for a local restauranteur i know a lot of people irl who say this kind of stuff about startups but i think y'all are all underestimating how easy it is to convince a coked up rich assole that you're working 80 hour weeks and crushing it while working 18 hour weeks and playing hella video games
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2023 21:28
|
|
|
startups have the law of small numbers going on. you got the 80 hr week places and you got the 18 hr week places
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2023 21:32
|
|
|
Corla Plankun posted:i know a lot of people irl who say this kind of stuff about startups but i think y'all are all underestimating how easy it is to convince a coked up rich assole that you're working 80 hour weeks and crushing it while working 18 hour weeks and playing hella video games i do the same thing but don't have my livelihood tied to said coked up rich rear end in a top hat
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2023 21:33
|
|
|
bob dobbs is dead posted:never heard of manufacturing or insurance paying well for touchers As someone who does tech in a spinoff division of manufacturing [company makes $BIG_INDUSTRIAL_PART, our division makes sensors that fit in $PART and the attendant software], it's a very 'as above, so below' situation that's dependent on the company culture. If the factory floor treats their employees well, the computer touchers will also probably be treated well. Fortunately, I am in just such a place.  You might be paid less than tech, admittedly, but for me it's incredibly worth it for the peace of mind I get (4 days remote, can take any amount of unpaid time off after I run out of PTO, nice boss).
|
|
#
?
Jul 23, 2023 23:16
|
|
|
Kernel Sanders posted:...manufacturing... Gonna have to disagree with this one. I mean, I'm sure there are some decent places to work but for a lot of them "efficiency" means having the bare minimum of staff and resources.
|
|
#
?
Jul 24, 2023 17:34
|
|
|
i just got assigned a 3.5 hour online assessment for an internship application
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2023 16:17
|
|
|
18 hrs a week sounds exhausting
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2023 20:59
|
|
|
Mr. Crow posted:18 hrs a week sounds exhausting i assume it comes with 80% extra pay for the additional effort
|
|
#
?
Jul 25, 2023 21:01
|
|
|
lord fifth posted:i just got assigned a 3.5 hour online assessment for an internship application that's a lot of leetcode
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2023 13:38
|
|
|
lots of ways you can be asked to reverse a linked list
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2023 14:26
|
|
|
KidDynamite posted:that's a lot of leetcode apparently it's 2 hours of programming challenges, 1 hour of computing knowledge quiz questions, and 0.5 hours of gamified aptitude testing. all for the chance of possibly being considered for an interview. i hate this industry
|
|
#
?
Jul 26, 2023 18:58
|
|
|
computer touching interviews are bad. and then you have academia. and then you have academia _in the humanities_ the shitshow there is a big reason for why i touch computers
|
|
#
?
Jul 27, 2023 00:57
|
|
|
cs academia can be a shitshow at times, and these are mostly people who could have easily gone into industry for significantly higher pay. i can't imagine how bad it must be in the humanities
|
|
#
?
Jul 27, 2023 06:11
|
|
|
had my white-boarding workshop interview today. I guess I did good? did my best to involve everyone. now I wait
|
|
#
?
Jul 27, 2023 06:13
|
|
|
Achmed Jones posted:computer touching interviews are bad. and then you have academia. and then you have academia _in the humanities_ science academia is the same. The boss is the worst genx person to have ever lived and his wife just happens to also have been his phd student when they met don't worry about it. Also you can't publish without eating his boot also your only metric is how much you publish so anyway I touch computers for a living
|
|
#
?
Jul 27, 2023 10:56
|
|
|
DELETE CASCADE posted:cs academia can be a shitshow at times, and these are mostly people who could have easily gone into industry for significantly higher pay. i can't imagine how bad it must be in the humanities Don't go, no jobs, die alone.
|
|
#
?
Jul 27, 2023 13:39
|
|
|
i liked academia except for the part where oops the grant disappeared and we can’t pay you. which is why i left.
|
|
#
?
Jul 27, 2023 13:45
|
|
|
raminasi posted:i liked academia except for the part where oops the grant disappeared and we can’t pay you. which is why i left. So game development is academia?
|
|
#
?
Jul 27, 2023 14:01
|
|
|
I liked academia other than the whole publishing papers part. But as champagne posting pointed out, "your only metric is how much you publish". Whoops. Glad to never have to write another paper or deal with reviewer comments again.
|
|
#
?
Jul 27, 2023 16:48
|
|
|
my favorite thing was when i wrote a good paper, sent it off to a journal, they sat on it for over a year, and then the reviewer rejected and gave me poo poo for not reading a book that said the same thing that book/finding was not preceded by a paper, and it came out 10 months after i submitted my paper im relatively sure that the book's author was the reviewer and just sat on my paper so they could be the one who noticed the thing. and that's charitably assuming they actually independently discovered it and didn't bite my paper wholesale
|
|
#
?
Jul 27, 2023 18:20
|
|
|
i had a single low-effort journal review take nearly three years to materialize once. luckily at a point where it didn't matter much to me to have the thing hanging, but obviously for a lot of people that can basically gently caress your career. e: it was such a maddening review when it arrived too, went through 2/3s of the paper going "this is just obvious", then arriving at the proof which was hopelessly overcomplicated, to the point where the submission was a bit of a gamble that we'd get some input on how to make it comprehensible, the reviewer just stopped giving comments. almost certainly one of the many sufferers of the syndrome where they cannot value any knowledge if it is not at the very limits of their ability to comprehend it, doesn't matter what it is as long as it is very difficult. Cybernetic Vermin fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Jul 27, 2023 |
|
#
?
Jul 27, 2023 19:39
|
|
|
everyone should just post to free journals like arxiv instead of the terrible money machines that are Nature et al. Quality of papers clearly don't matter to them (at least not for my field which is extremely hit or miss) so why not just post papers wherever
|
|
#
?
Jul 27, 2023 20:49
|
|
|
champagne posting posted:everyone should just post to free journals like arxiv instead of the terrible money machines that are Nature et al. Quality of papers clearly don't matter to them (at least not for my field which is extremely hit or miss) so why not just post papers wherever while i wont defend the old way, the arxiv route is kind of rapidly falling apart in my area, with a lot of absolute garbage being revised over and over in public to establish primacy for a half-baked idea. e: and somewhat obviously the *real* issue is the publication pressure, with some open access (which seems to be happening, a lot of funding orgs requiring it) and cutting down the number of papers treated by 80-90% the old system would be fine Cybernetic Vermin fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Jul 27, 2023 |
|
#
?
Jul 27, 2023 20:55
|
|
|
champagne posting posted:everyone should just post to free journals like arxiv instead of the terrible money machines that are Nature et al. Quality of papers clearly don't matter to them (at least not for my field which is extremely hit or miss) so why not just post papers wherever If you're not already established then you really need endorsements of some kind to get people to read what you write. I'm doing research on my own and I'd just as happily never submit anything again but I think I need at least a few journal papers to establish myself, so I get to deal with all that crap again. 
|
|
#
?
Jul 27, 2023 21:02
|
|
|
i feel like the world wide web was literally designed to allow academics to publish and share their results
|
|
#
?
Jul 28, 2023 12:22
|
|
|
rotor posted:i feel like the world wide web was literally designed to allow academics to publish and share their results yeah, but publish or perish, only you can only publish in the journal your section head likes and if he's old, and he is gonna be real old, he's gonna mandate you publish only in this one journal he likes.
|
|
#
?
Jul 28, 2023 12:49
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 27, 2024 08:16 |
|
|
yeah i mean i get it, just sayin its very weird to me that academia doesnt self-publish. Get with the program. eggheads.
|
|
#
?
Jul 28, 2023 13:05
|
|