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Some Guy TT posted:how did you have access to it? from an actual theater or just on demand? i ask because while this movie is technically available to watch in the united states as of yesterday in maybe a couple of dozen random selected movie theaters the fact that youve even heard of it implies to me that it got a more consistent form of distribution in the philippines I watched it in a cinema. I hadn't heard of it before I walked in but it was about the moon and nothing better was playing
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Justin Tyme posted:Never considered this but it's totally true, anything involving the Hoth command staff or briefing scenes in ESB is a perfect example. Leia sounds like a military officer and not a school teacher giving gym class instruction like stuff from the sequels. I feel like they're better about letting nameless background characters pipe up too, so it feels like there's a lot more going on than the same ten people you see in other scenes standing around a hologram talking to each other. I could be way off base, I saw the sequels once when they came out and never again. Modern writers have no idea what people acting professional actually looks like or why they do it, they literally only know whedon banter
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Modern writers have no idea what people acting professional actually looks like or why they do it, they literally only know whedon banter
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i know i keep saying man in the high castle has hit its lowest point but john smith raping his alt universe wife has to be the lowest one like he doesnt even have captain americas excuse of his own version being long dead its not cool to have sex with the alt universe version of your wife just because your actual wife wont let you touch her anymore the inability of people who think of themselves as feminists to navigate a thought experiment this basically baby brained is very emblematic of how fourth wave feminisms goal of turning phrases like rape culture into buzzwords devoid of any actual meaning was a very stupid loving goal and it shouldnt surprise anyone that gender equity has only been getting worse since this has become the dominant form of popular feminism
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Some Guy TT posted:i know i keep saying man in the high castle has hit its lowest point but john smith raping his alt universe wife has to be the lowest one like he doesnt even have captain americas excuse of his own version being long dead its not cool to have sex with the alt universe version of your wife just because your actual wife wont let you touch her anymore Maybe I'm missing something here, but given the rapist in question is the show's Norman Rockwell Nazi villain so I think it's kind of unsurprising that they'd portray him as a rapist. It's part of the show's critique of the middle class white suburbanite, in how easily his privilege begets selfishness and lets him excuse personal and systemic cruelty. I mean, yeah, the show could be better about this but the character is straight up the show's lead villain.
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a couple scenes later he makes a heroic effort to try and convince his alt son not to go to vietnam by saying that america is a racist lie not worth dying for and the bookended theme of the episode is his guilt over letting his brother among others get concentration camped by the nazis the vibe is so clearly aiming for his being genuinely repentant i really just cant see the rape scene as having a negative intent but you also have to understand that man in the high castle is so weirdly insistent on giving as many characters as it can unnecessary sex scenes it beggars disbelief to me that this one was thought through any better than any of the other ones
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Some Guy TT posted:a couple scenes later he makes a heroic effort to try and convince his alt son not to go to vietnam by saying that america is a racist lie not worth dying for and the bookended theme of the episode is his guilt over letting his brother among others get concentration camped by the nazis I dunno, he just reads like a gently caress you got mine piece of poo poo who thinks he can use multiple universes to play dog with two bones. I think the full context of the season makes that clear, but even at this point he literally murdered his doppelganger to get where he is. He's starring in a one man performance of The Invasion of the Bodysnatchers. The script plays with making him sympathetic because the critique is making the argument that this kind of thinking is seductive, but everything he does is fundamentally monstrous.
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he didnt intentionally murder his doppleganger though like if you look at the actual direct context of his ethical dilemmas john smiths choices are always either reluctantly do the kind of evil thing or have his whole family get murdered its a deliberate narrative choice to make him look sympathetic that completely ignores the tangible benefits he and his family received for being sincere nazis the rationalizing is super similar to what actual nazi collaborators did to justify their actions after the end of the war but just like with john smith this narrative building was deliberately designed to nullify their agency in ways at odds with how the regime actually operated like nazi policy would have called for sterilizing rather than euthenizing john smiths son but the show has to go for the latter or else theres no credible ethical dilemma
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it occurs to me this is really similar to my big beef with sicario and other films like it namely that while the script swears up and down that benicio del toro is a terrible person doing terrible things at no point does it ever present a situation where hes actually wrong in the sense that he chooses an action that would have led to a worse outcome than if a more ethically defensible option had been chosen a lot of it just goes to tone which is subjective to an extent but i think we can all agree that the french connection and dirty harry to use topical examples have completely different approaches to the idea of making the best decisions you can in a bad system even if on a pure narrative level these are very superficially similar movies
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Some Guy TT posted:he didnt intentionally murder his doppleganger though like if you look at the actual direct context of his ethical dilemmas john smiths choices are always either reluctantly do the kind of evil thing or have his whole family get murdered its a deliberate narrative choice to make him look sympathetic that completely ignores the tangible benefits he and his family received for being sincere nazis Well, he double died as a direct consequence of his appearance so I think there's a credible case for manslaughter. But the accidental death makes it easier for Smith to justify his subsequent escalation, up to his plan to (spoiler for I think maybe one or two episodes from where you are) kidnap a child and take him back to Naziland so it's not like this man is, you know, remotely good. Again, maybe I'm misunderstanding where you're coming from, but the death of a perfectly innocent man is ultimately a direct consequence of Smith's use of Nazi (literally Mengele's) science, so yeah I think he absolutely causes a lot of damage based on unethical behaviour. Not to mention all the other poo poo he does like trapping his wife in a penthouse prison, wrecking his children's lives, raping a woman, etc. all of which stem from his desire to benefit himself through keeping up appearances. He justifies it to himself as the tragic weight of a great man who does terrible things, and that he's doing it for his family, and that on some level it's "okay" because he's just pretending. But his family loving hate him, or are indoctrinated to the point where he thinks they're crazy. He's basically an abusive husband with a second family in the suburbs, and I don't think the show is particularly subtle about that. And none of that was anything he had to do, it's just what he wanted to do. He could have noped out at any time. He could take his family and run to another dimension. Hell, the very existence of his doppleganger suggests he couldn't have made better choices. But he didn't, and he doesn't.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Well, he double died as a direct consequence of his appearance so I think there's a credible case for manslaughter. But the accidental death makes it easier for Smith to justify his subsequent escalation, up to his plan to (spoiler for I think maybe one or two episodes from where you are) kidnap a child and take him back to Naziland so it's not like this man is, you know, remotely good. youre right that im not quite there yet but the situation thats being set up is that john smith genuinely and probably correctly believes that his actual wife and kids as well as his alt son will die if he doesnt take some sort of action and like nearly every other conflict in the man in the high castle the character is forced to pick between multiple bad choices in such a way that minimizes their agency with whatever they do choose the irritating thing is i would actually probably genuinely like a show thats a critique of rockwell style americana the way you describe it but i just cant see it like that john smiths alt version being a sincere antiracist nice guy and main john smiths family easily drifting away from nazi ideology by just physically being away from him for awhile both point to the idea of his rockwell style americana being corrupted by the nazis not an ethos with strong ideological synergy to the nazi one
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ok yea “sex scene discourse” is v tired at this point but lmao this is absolutely insane https://twitter.com/fiimgal/status/1693281039827849236
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it's pretty cool that joyless evangelical psychos have latched onto trauma discourse
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insane clown pussy posted:it's pretty cool that joyless evangelical psychos have latched onto trauma discourse seeing boobs on screen is denying my lived experiences
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Imagine being so gay that seeing a sex scene makes you nuzzle into your wife's shoulder like a dog during a thunderstorm
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Gotta love this idea that you can overcome trauma by shutting your eyes for thirty seconds, instead of spending years to overcome a debilitating illness. Hey honey I'm just gonna readjust my bra, try not to get triggered.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:ok yea “sex scene discourse” is v tired at this point but lmao this is absolutely insane This is what not seeing butts in movies for a generation does to people and I would definitely rather get tmi'd about the director's kinks
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Antonymous posted:wanna do one but about videodrome when James Woods grows a vagina belly Golden era horror movies would drive these people mad like Lovecraft characters
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insane clown pussy posted:it's pretty cool that joyless evangelical psychos have latched onto trauma discourse Getting increasingly upset about sex in movies is almost universal in the US. For some reason, spending their entire youth being told that sex is evil and inevitably leads to hell, incurable diseases, and rape has left the last couple of generations a little prudish.
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Cael posted:Imagine being so gay that seeing a sex scene makes you nuzzle into your wife's shoulder like a dog during a thunderstorm do NOT put that cringeness on us gays
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loquacius posted:Golden era horror movies would drive these people mad like Lovecraft characters Any arthouse film with nudity would be like The Exorcist times a million. I remember sitting down to a family meal with a girl I'd just met and her parents put on The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover.
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I think the negative response to sex in media over the last few years is still kind of left over from that period of time where HBO shows especially seemed mandated to have a ton of sex and nudity. Then that rolled in MeToo and the greater awareness of how actresses have been exploited both in front of and behind the camera which all combined into sex scenes starting to feel real gross. I'm okay with the recent reduction in them because half the time they just seem like a way to titillate the audience without any actual narrative or thematic relevance. But if you have a trauma response to seeing Florence Pugh's titty, idk, that's more on you.
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Weembles posted:Getting increasingly upset about sex in movies is almost universal in the US. she's got an ichthys tat on her wrist and her entire account is about porn addiction
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insane clown pussy posted:she's got an ichthys tat on her wrist and her entire account is about porn addiction Oh so her husband fucks their foster kids while she screams about the trans menace then
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La Louve Rouge posted:Oh so her husband fucks their foster kids while she screams about the trans menace then judging by some of her other content looks like he might've been the victim of a conversion therapy facility or three
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Weembles posted:Getting increasingly upset about sex in movies is almost universal in the US. No actually zoomers are scary. Up until this exactly moment in time the USA was normal about sex
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An ongoing subplot in Cheers is Sam Malone being an abuser. It of course is played for laughs. It really feels like a Always Sunny in Philadelphia prototype
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:ok yea “sex scene discourse” is v tired at this point but lmao this is absolutely insane Medicare For All, but it mandates therapy for every adult in America today. God knows we all need it.
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who the gently caress is florence pugh
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AnimeIsTrash posted:who the gently caress is florence pugh 
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Florence Poo(p culture)
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The prank is that there's a real guy in here. That's the new prank
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Gonna nuke my brain and marathon Beau is Afraid, Whiplash, and Uncut Gems 
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Justin Tyme posted:Gonna nuke my brain and marathon Beau is Afraid, Whiplash, and Uncut Gems i have beau is afraid, how to blow up a pipeline, pope's excorcist, and john wick 4 on deck but i haven't really been motivated to watch anything lately. i keep saying "ok this weekend" and then end up falling asleep instead of being stoned till 2am. sad
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Justin Tyme posted:Gonna nuke my brain and marathon Beau is Afraid, Whiplash, and Uncut Gems beau is afraid sucks
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Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy Hiroshima, or even Nagasaki, is insignificant next to the power of Florence Pugh's tit.
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tristeham posted:beau is afraid sucks Ari Aster made Beau is Afraid exclusively for one person and that person is Ari Aster. And I have to respect the man for that.
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1stGear posted:Ari Aster made Beau is Afraid exclusively for one person and that person is Ari Aster. And I have to respect the man for that. straight up give me the most pretentious creator-ego-death movie you can make and i'll slurp it down my gullet and beg for more. Synecdoche is one of my favorites of all time and it was basically just made for kaufman.
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