jisforjosh posted:Even with that leak, there's nothing about Wild Blue Yonder Potentially massive spoilers based on the leaks: So if I'm reading this right, does this mean we're going to end with two versions of Tennant Doctor just hanging out somewhere? Granted, one in another universe, but still. RTD really doesn't want to kill Tennant. Oh poo poo, I just realized how it'll probably end. 15 will ask 14 if he wants to come with him on an adventure, and 14 will look at Donna and Rose, and look back to 15 and say, "I don't want to go."
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# ? Nov 27, 2023 18:33 |
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 00:48 |
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As someone who really liked the revival up until Capaldi's run, is it worth picking up again? If so, where? I think I stopped watching because of a mix of long delays and poor writing in the Capaldi episodes I saw. They had already started to lose me towards the end of Smith's run, what with the multiple endings and having to come up with overly-clever reasons to yell the name of the show. Have things improved since then?
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# ? Nov 27, 2023 18:53 |
Skyl3lazer posted:As someone who really liked the revival up until Capaldi's run, is it worth picking up again? If so, where? If you didn't like Capaldi's run (or the end of Smith's), you were probably just over Moffat running the show, which is understandable. There's great stuff in there, but it probably wasn't your thing anymore. In which case, I'd say the best place to jump back on would be the special that just aired this past Saturday. RTD is back as show runner. The show runner between Moffat and RTD 2.0, Chibnall, did not improve things, no.
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# ? Nov 27, 2023 18:57 |
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Skyl3lazer posted:As someone who really liked the revival up until Capaldi's run, is it worth picking up again? If so, where? The first head writer/showrunner who handled the Eccleston and Tennant years is suddenly back, with Disney money (and he's brought back the Doctor, a companion, and the composer from his era for four specials). He is writing more or less just as he used to, so if you enjoyed his era, you are likely to enjoy the show starting from the specials that are currently airing on Disney Plus. It is unapologetically campy and didactic, with the power of love and egalitarianism often saving the day, as you may recall.
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# ? Nov 27, 2023 19:01 |
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thrawn527 posted:If you didn't like Capaldi's run (or the end of Smith's), you were probably just over Moffat running the show, which is understandable. There's great stuff in there, but it probably wasn't your thing anymore. In which case, I'd say the best place to jump back on would be the special that just aired this past Saturday. RTD is back as show runner. Thanks, I'll check that out. That's "The Star Beast" correct? Are there any highlights of Capaldi or Whittaker's run that I should check out?
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# ? Nov 27, 2023 19:06 |
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Skyl3lazer posted:Thanks, I'll check that out. That's "The Star Beast" correct? Yup, that's the one.
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# ? Nov 27, 2023 19:07 |
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Skyl3lazer posted:Thanks, I'll check that out. That's "The Star Beast" correct? Are there any highlights of Capaldi or Whittaker's run that I should check out?
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# ? Nov 27, 2023 19:15 |
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Skyl3lazer posted:Thanks, I'll check that out. That's "The Star Beast" correct? Are there any highlights of Capaldi or Whittaker's run that I should check out? It might not make much sense outside of the greater narrative of S9, but Heaven Sent is probably one of the best episodes of the revival. (Its follow up, Hell Bent, less so) All in all, Capaldi’s run was much better than latter-day Smith, and the writing keeps improving as his tenture goes on. If you just want twelve solid episodes of him, check out S10 with Bill as his companion.
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# ? Nov 27, 2023 19:19 |
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Seconding Husbands of River Song and Capaldi's last season, but skip Pyramid at the End of the World, The Lie of the Land and honestly it's probably fine to skip Twice Upon A Time too.
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# ? Nov 27, 2023 19:51 |
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Heaven Sent is the best episode of Doctor Who so I do think it's worth seeing some of Capaldi if only to get the necessary context for that to really hit well.
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# ? Nov 27, 2023 19:55 |
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The Caretaker is a personal favourite. Dark Water/Death In Heaven and Last Christmas are ones I've gone back to a million times. Heaven Sent/Hell Bent, and you may want to do Face The Raven which leads into them, but I don't really rate that episode
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# ? Nov 27, 2023 20:08 |
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Nthing Heave Sent. Also I forget the title but the Genesis of the Cybermen season finale was pretty good, too.
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# ? Nov 27, 2023 20:11 |
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Basically everybody loves Heaven Sent and unfortunately you do need at least a little bit of context for it to work.
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# ? Nov 27, 2023 20:15 |
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thrawn527 posted:Potentially massive spoilers based on the leaks: So if I'm reading this right, does this mean we're going to end with two versions of Tennant Doctor just hanging out somewhere? Granted, one in another universe, but still. I mean, I suppose it could happen but I really don't think RTD is going to cast the show's first black lead and go 'but we have another Doctor in backup just in case" it's just a super weird statement.
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# ? Nov 27, 2023 20:38 |
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10/14 having another go and possibly sticking around would work a lot more for me if they just used it an excuse to finally close the loop on the Valeyard. Let Tennant ham it up as a bad guy, a full exploration on the selfishness of "I don't want to go".
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# ? Nov 27, 2023 21:08 |
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I know it's expanded media stuff but didn't they already explore that idea with Time Lord Victorious?
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# ? Nov 27, 2023 21:45 |
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Yannick_B posted:I mean, I suppose it could happen but I really don't think RTD is going to cast the show's first black lead and go 'but we have another Doctor in backup just in case" it's just a super weird statement. This is my primary worry really with this rumour/leak.
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# ? Nov 28, 2023 00:22 |
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lines posted:This is my primary worry really with this rumour/leak. I've always thought that bringing Tennant back was a bad move, for the simple fact that A)it's clearly a desperate attempt to revive the show's flagging ratings, and B)it's potentially going to kneecap the new Doctor's run before it even gets started, if audience retention is bad once the new Doctor's run begins.
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# ? Nov 28, 2023 05:03 |
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I'm not sure I would call it desperate. But ultimately Chibnall did leave things in a bad state.
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# ? Nov 28, 2023 08:30 |
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Good LORD that special has one of the most ham-handed doctor who bits in the history of the show lmao NON BINARY I just about fell out of my chair cackling. It was a decent special though, just still lmaoing at it.
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 02:20 |
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Honestly I missed RTD beating me over the head with the storytelling equivalent of a toaster.
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 02:31 |
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HD DAD posted:Honestly I missed RTD beating me over the head with the storytelling equivalent of a toaster. It's honestly and unironically refreshing, lol. It's a show about a magic time travel box with an amorphous, benevolent trickster. I'm glad he took the Disney money and basically just wrote a rainbow primal scream for his first teleplay back. This show is always a trainwreck, it may as well be one that runs over bigots.
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# ? Nov 29, 2023 14:02 |
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https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/1730330885688377485?s=20 Leaks continue to be proving correct.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 22:18 |
Confusedslight posted:https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/1730330885688377485?s=20 There's nothing in this that confirms the leak!
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 01:20 |
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PriorMarcus posted:There's nothing in this that confirms the leak! Except for the title, Davina McCall and the adorable gobbos
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 01:21 |
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Confusedslight posted:https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/1730330885688377485?s=20 This is the most RTD poo poo imaginable and I am somehow very much here for it. I never watched the first RTD run as it aired (except I watched the episode with Simon Pegg from the first series when SciFi aired it like three months later) and watched it after watching series 5, wasn't as into it because I started with Matt Smith and Moffatt, but after watching Moffatt's go up his rear end and then Chibnall just bungling it all, I appreciate this style a lot more and now that he has Disney money to make things look good, I am on board.
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 02:18 |
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:This is the most RTD poo poo imaginable and I am somehow very much here for it. This is where I'm at, lmao. He seems self-aware of what he's doing and is somehow deconstructing it while.throwing a party for it and giving it awards. Legit excited to see what the hell he's going to do next.
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 04:20 |
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Martha is going to be the only companion from the 10th doctor era who doesn't have their version of that doctor.
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 04:36 |
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From the other thread, re: Wild Blue YonderAutisanal Cheese posted:what have you heard Opens with a comedy Isaac Newton bit, and shapeshifters. I mean, grain of salt but yeah.
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 08:33 |
Confusedslight posted:Martha is going to be the only companion from the 10th doctor era who doesn't have their version of that doctor. Well, she got to keep Mickey.
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 10:25 |
PriorMarcus posted:Well, she got to keep Mickey. Gee, lucky her.
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 15:10 |
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Years later, and Nine’s dislike of him is justified.
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 17:31 |
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https://twitter.com/kingsley_tom/status/1729767825617633732
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 18:31 |
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PriorMarcus posted:Well, she got to keep Mickey. Aside from Noel Clarke turning out to be a complete piece of poo poo, the main thing I remember about that was when people lambasted RTD's lazy writing for pairing up the two black companions--who'd had little, if any, interaction with each other previously in the series--and his response (I think it was in that book of emails to Ben Cook that got published) was to say that he was shocked that people would call him a lazy writer, because he worked like 18 hours each day on writing for the show (or some similar "missing the point completely" response).
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 20:55 |
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The Writer's Tale really is a fascinating read.
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 21:15 |
Seems legit.
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 21:21 |
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lines posted:The Writer's Tale really is a fascinating read. If only for an insight into Davies' creative process, and also just how massively loving burnt-out he was by the whole thing--writing, production, studio politics, casting, editing, the whole nine yards--at the very end. I can only imagine his partner's illness took a massive toll on him, too.
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# ? Dec 2, 2023 04:34 |
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Possibly work was a good outlet at the same time as a distraction, but yeah, it must have been crucifying all at the same time. I forgot the Marvin-esque robot is in tonight’s ep.
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# ? Dec 2, 2023 13:49 |
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My dream scenario is that they’ve filmed bits and pieces for a non-existent episode, like how Inside No 9 sent out promos for an On the Buses parody which turned out to actually be a quiz show hosted by Lee Mack. (Spoilers just in case) Tonight’s episode is actually a McGann and Capaldi pair-up with a small cameo from Eccleston, Three Doctors style. Creature fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Dec 2, 2023 |
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Creature posted:(Spoilers just in case) It's [spoiler] without the S at the end You can also highlight the text and press CTRL + P to get the tags added around it
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# ? Dec 2, 2023 14:43 |