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Archer666 posted:That was the era where I almost gave up on gaming entirely, gently caress it was a dire time. Japan doing that weird rear end push to Westernize their games and absolutely destroying them while the west was making GBS threads on Japan while producing the brownest poo poo imaginable since the invention of Mexican food. I remember unchartered had a secret filter mod and the next gen filter just made everything brown with too much bloom
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Jan 25, 2024 03:27
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NorgLyle posted:I watched The Simpsons for years and I literally could not think of any Asian characters on the show. So I went looking and now I really wish that I hadn't. There are no 'regular' Simpsons characters who are Asian and the named characters who have shown up more than once are very grim and seemingly all fit your post exactly. does apu count as asian
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Jan 25, 2024 03:44
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euroshopper posted:does apu count as asian To British people, yes. Americans think Asian just means East Asian. I always found this really interesting. Archer666 posted:That was the era where I almost gave up on gaming entirely, gently caress it was a dire time. Japan doing that weird rear end push to Westernize their games and absolutely destroying them while the west was making GBS threads on Japan while producing the brownest poo poo imaginable since the invention of Mexican food. I never understood this "i's brown" criticism, then or now. I liked Infamous and GTAIV because of the characters and story and music. The brown-ness never once entered my mind.
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Jan 25, 2024 03:48
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Yeah south Asians are Asians
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Jan 25, 2024 03:51
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NikkolasKing posted:To British people, yes. Americans think Asian just means East Asian. I always found this really interesting. You're wondering why gamers have a problem with brown?
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Jan 25, 2024 03:51
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Wasn't the brownness partly because lighting had advanced from the early 3D era but not advanced enough that it could do realistic bouncing of reflected light and the other things that make real life not actually all grey? I think there's something to this because in some games you can tell shadows work by making things literally darker so like a dark colored thing standing in the shade becomes invisible.
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Jan 25, 2024 03:54
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NikkolasKing posted:
If you enjoy the visual aspect of video games, that generation was very noticable for having the brown filter and muted colors. If you don't much care for that aspect, then yeah the brown filter criticism doesn't really connect. But for me and a lot of other people, it was poo poo.
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Jan 25, 2024 03:56
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NikkolasKing posted:I never understood this "i's brown" criticism, then or now. I liked Infamous and GTAIV because of the characters and story and music. The brown-ness never once entered my mind.
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Jan 25, 2024 03:56
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Arc Hammer posted:The G4TechTV era was kind if a concentration for a lot of it, to be honest. It is the channel that had Jessica Chobot lick a PSP and their E3 coverage lamented the end of booth babes. Also Olivia Munn in a maid costume jumping into a pie.
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Jan 25, 2024 04:22
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Kay Kessler posted:Never forget that in every adult cartoon (Simpsons, koth, macfarlane shows, South Park), all Asians are played by a white guy (usually the show's creator) doing a racist "you get out my store!" accent. Even to this day. Hanna Barbera's 1972 Saturday morning cartoon 'The Amazing Chan and the Chan Clan' weirdly bucked the trend in that they hired VAs who were actually of Asian descent to voice the Asian characters .... ...... right up until the show actually started airing and viewers started complaining that their accents were too thick at which point they immediately replaced most of the cast with non-Asian VAs and redubbed the earlier episodes when they were syndicated AN ATTEMPT WAS MADE Edit: I guess TV execs kept bringing this up for decades afterwards whenever a cartoon featured an Asian character
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Jan 25, 2024 04:25
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I only know the Chan Clan from Harvey Birdman.
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Jan 25, 2024 04:35
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Weird Sandwich posted:The article is right you should feel embarrassed playing Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Being embarrassed about your hobbies is some fail poo poo and XB2 owns.
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Jan 25, 2024 04:38
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Karasu Tengu posted:Yeah, a big thing to remember with that stuff is that it's not something just on one network or tv show, it was the entire sphere at the time and it was insane and awful. Behold, Britain! Really look at that headline for Megaman Legends.   https://twitter.com/Protodude/status/1365684470700003329
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Jan 25, 2024 05:44
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Hanna Barbera's 1972 Saturday morning cartoon 'The Amazing Chan and the Chan Clan' weirdly bucked the trend in that they hired VAs who were actually of Asian descent to voice the Asian characters ....
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Jan 25, 2024 05:44
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Alaois posted:thinking about the time someone in Games said no women would play Final Fantasy XV because the party were all dudes this was the opinion of like 90% of western games media for years it ruled
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Jan 25, 2024 05:50
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even funnier: https://opensea.io/collection/hard-drive they actually did make the NFTs they just then got bullied by their staff out of promoting them
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Jan 25, 2024 05:52
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The magazine had infamously poor editing, insane graphic design and an incident where they accidentally left racist Japanese slurs in as filler text but I will always love Hardcore Gamefan for being the "guys claiming every single unlocalized Sega Saturn Japanese game would have saved the system" of magazines I mean come on 
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Jan 25, 2024 05:57
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NorgLyle posted:I watched The Simpsons for years and I literally could not think of any Asian characters on the show. So I went looking and now I really wish that I hadn't. There are no 'regular' Simpsons characters who are Asian and the named characters who have shown up more than once are very grim and seemingly all fit your post exactly.
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Jan 25, 2024 05:58
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I think my favorite moment was seeing this Kings Field review and like, yeah, 30 years and Fromsoft was always doing their goddamn thing.
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Jan 25, 2024 06:00
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Terrible Opinions posted:I believe a similar thing happened for the Charlie Chan live action movies. Sort of. The very earliest film versions of Charlie Chan in the 1920s cast Japanese actors but pretty much every other time he appeared in Western media after that he was portrayed by a white dude in yellowface. (There were a handful of films produced in Hong Kong in the 30s and 40s but weirdly enough the American films were also super popular in that market.) The 1970s Hanna Barbera cartoon was the first time that a person of Chinese descent got to play the character in a US adaptation, lol
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Jan 25, 2024 06:10
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RareAcumen posted:Behold, Britain! Really look at that headline for Megaman Legends. Calling the classic mega man era the dark ages of gaming in the earlier PS1 era is so goddamn funny to me.
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Jan 25, 2024 06:20
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the west was all in on the idea that anything that wasnt 3d was a throwback to a darker, failed past that we should all be ashamed of famously this led to a lot of 2d games not getting localized
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Jan 25, 2024 06:26
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Mega Man Legends was (and is) good
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Jan 25, 2024 06:27
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NorgLyle posted:I watched The Simpsons for years and I literally could not think of any Asian characters on the show. So I went looking and now I really wish that I hadn't. There are no 'regular' Simpsons characters who are Asian and the named characters who have shown up more than once are very grim and seemingly all fit your post exactly. Apu is Asian
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Jan 25, 2024 06:35
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Endorph posted:the west was all in on the idea that anything that wasnt 3d was a throwback to a darker, failed past that we should all be ashamed of this was not just a common attitude in the press and general public, it was sony of america's official stance until 2012
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Jan 25, 2024 06:37
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oh poo poo jon (many a true nerd) is doing daggerfall finally hell yes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tnkAQSa52E
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Jan 25, 2024 07:05
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Archer666 posted:That was the era where I almost gave up on gaming entirely, gently caress it was a dire time. Japan doing that weird rear end push to Westernize their games and absolutely destroying them while the west was making GBS threads on Japan while producing the brownest poo poo imaginable since the invention of Mexican food. It wasn't all bad I mean, it was, objectively, but telling people who don't know about bionic commando's dead wife arm twist is still funny to this day, and all that westernization was a domino that ended in mighty number nine, so in terms of content it was pretty amazing
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Jan 25, 2024 08:58
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:It wasn't all bad spencer's robot arm wife should've talked to him. Like saying "good job honey!" when he punches a bad guy. they'd still be making sequels if they did that
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Jan 25, 2024 09:07
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:It wasn't all bad Oh cool, a specific game got mentioned. Can someone be specific about what other games count as westernized, I have no idea if this means Metal Wolf Chaos or Binary Domain or what.
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Jan 25, 2024 09:12
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South Park also had the City Wok guy Who they decades later revealed to be a delusional white guy in yellowface as a plot twist because no 'chinese person could be that stereotypical for real' Of course the real Chinese and Japanese characters of the show are still all voiced by Matt and Trey.
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Jan 25, 2024 09:34
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RareAcumen posted:Oh cool, a specific game got mentioned. Can someone be specific about what other games count as westernized, I have no idea if this means Metal Wolf Chaos or Binary Domain or what.
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Jan 25, 2024 09:43
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RareAcumen posted:Oh cool, a specific game got mentioned. Can someone be specific about what other games count as westernized, I have no idea if this means Metal Wolf Chaos or Binary Domain or what. 
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Jan 25, 2024 09:57
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Endorph posted:basically everything capcom made from 2005-2015 except monster hunter Ohhhh, okay. Stuff I just glazed over on the 360 store or never knew about like Dark Void, Darkwatch, Remember Me, Shadow of Rome or Final Fight Streetwise. Got it, got it.
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Jan 25, 2024 09:57
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Dragon's Dogma was consciously designed with contemporary WRPG sensibilities in mind - specifically stuff from games like like Fable, and Oblivion. A lot of the art direction and character/enemy design was also actively trying to mimic the generic Holywood "fantasy" look and feel. Also Dragon's Dogma kicked rear end.
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Jan 25, 2024 09:59
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As a then 14 year old Bomberman super fan when this came out I was apoplectic over this massacre of my boy.
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Jan 25, 2024 10:01
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Dragon's Dogma was conspicuously designed to look like Berserk
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Jan 25, 2024 10:02
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Sydin posted:Dragon's Dogma was consciously designed with contemporary WRPG sensibilities in mind - specifically stuff from games like like Fable, and Oblivion. A lot of the art direction and character/enemy design was also actively trying to mimic the generic Holywood "fantasy" look and feel. While I'm clueless about what games everyone else has in mind, I'm not gonna include any of the good games like Dead Rising 1 and 2 when I see them. Now Dead Rising 3 however
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Jan 25, 2024 10:03
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Alaois posted:Dragon's Dogma was conspicuously designed to look like Berserk And then they took the Griffith and Guts armors out because 
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Jan 25, 2024 10:07
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i mean its weird to act like this wasnt a thing when half the JP publishers were going 'we need our games to be more western,' openly, in interviews, or farming them out to western devs
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Jan 25, 2024 10:13
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remember when phil fish outright told some japanese dude that JAPANESE GAMES SUCK AND ARE DEAD and every gaming website was applauding him for dropping this truth bomb
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Jan 25, 2024 10:13
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