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RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Kit Walker posted:

As someone who has done occasional translation work, an insistence on direct translation is laughably naive. Certain lines, ideas, and turns of phrase are completely incomprehensible if you translate them directly. Localization can also be done poorly but that’s a skill issue. And it’ll still probably be better than having one character turn to the other and say something like, “what a great guy, he was having me banging my rear end against the floor all night”

Yeah my experience is mainly through memes but even outside of that I know that people say English is either the hardest or at least one of the top 3 hardest languages to learn because it's just chunks of different languages torn off each other and sewed onto itself. All my info is anecdotal but I also hear that French is very weird in some fashion. Either the pronouns or grammar or it was something like the format. I don't remember specifically.

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Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

JamOnBread posted:

Some r/superstonk cope posting






none of those words appear in the bible

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
i like how these alphas think an alpha life is tip tapping at a phone screen or computer screen and trading stocks or whatever.

Kantesu
Apr 21, 2010

PhazonLink posted:

i like how these alphas think an alpha life is tip tapping at a phone screen or computer screen and trading stocks or whatever.

These particular weirdos don't trade stocks, they buy up ones of apparently failing companies that they think the big movers and shakers are secretly shorting, and believe if they hold onto them long enough their value will shoot into the stratosphere and turn them into the new richest people on earth.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



First you get de stonks, then you get de power, then you get de better computer to trade more stonks wait

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

RareAcumen posted:

Yeah my experience is mainly through memes but even outside of that I know that people say English is either the hardest or at least one of the top 3 hardest languages to learn because it's just chunks of different languages torn off each other and sewed onto itself. All my info is anecdotal but I also hear that French is very weird in some fashion. Either the pronouns or grammar or it was something like the format. I don't remember specifically.
French words for certain numbers is the most :psyduck: poo poo. I swear some languages want to to make numbers like 86 a goddamn math problem in of themselves.

"My grandpa is four twenties and a half dozen years old"

No! No! There's only two frigging digits in that number! It's too many goddamn words!

Bubblyblubber
Nov 17, 2014

James D. Nicoll posted:

The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and riffle their pockets for new vocabulary.

Woozie66
Sep 8, 2009

I'll wait for the next era
To add to the "just translate it literally" thing, there are whole puns and wordplay where you literally have to make a choice in translating. Plus! You have to alter sentence structure to even fit in the first place. Even Google Translate alters sentence structure! That's why it doesn't say "car red yours is" or some bullshit. Because that's not what translation is!!! I hate these idiots so much.

I am become idiot, reader of IOSM.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Panfilo posted:

French words for certain numbers is the most :psyduck: poo poo. I swear some languages want to to make numbers like 86 a goddamn math problem in of themselves.

"My grandpa is four twenties and a half dozen years old"

No! No! There's only two frigging digits in that number! It's too many goddamn words!

60-99 is counted in score. It’s as « confusing » as the US using imperial, ie, not at all.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴
Also also the teens are "10+(single digit number)" so 99 is "four twenties and ten-nine."

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

Vibes are never going to bring wealth because money is the tool of Capitalism and therefore inherently evil. Vibes don't like evil. To learn more, buy tickets to my talk when it's in your city on my website, prices start at $400 per person

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
You aren’t getting anti capitalist Ted talks. Hell you get the opposite the only good vibes is to grind and drop shipping

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

The dialectical struggle of history has always, essentially, been a question of how to apply justice to matter. Take away matter and what remains is justice.
i think the translations should be made as gay, woke, and communist as possible regardless of context, medium, or authorial intent

replace all instances of collective nouns with "comrade"

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Traditionally, anime dubs took liberties to remove gayness rather than add it.

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
Am I 🧑‍🏫 out of touch🤔? No🧐, it's the children👶 who are wrong🤷🏼‍♂️

Baron von Eevl posted:

Also also the teens are "10+(single digit number)" so 99 is "four twenties and ten-nine."

What about four twenties and sixty + nine?

Kantesu
Apr 21, 2010

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Traditionally, anime dubs took liberties to remove gayness rather than add it.

In at least one case resulting in a very touchy-feely relationship between "cousins"

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

NVIDIA, MICROCOCK, NETDICK

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

JamOnBread posted:

Unfortunately, I am. Does this concept originate from him?

the prison planet guy originally did content for infowars. So the same sorts of conspiracies. But from a weirdo who looked like a digitally de-aged bri'ish Jordan Peterson.
Also had a weird tendency to both shamelessly attention like his dads Jorp and Alex Jones, but also was way more self conscious so whenever people made fun of his dumb attention seeking too much, he'd 'break character' and say it was all a joke, and he totally trolled you dumb libs into believing him.

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Traditionally, anime dubs took liberties to remove gayness rather than add it.

Right, that's part of why these dummies think Japan is their paradise and the wokes are ruining the pristine culture. The Japanese games and anime from their childhood didn't have gays and included jokes making fun of the people they don't like, nowadays the icky people are in the content and not just as punching bags!

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

...blyat
finvibin my way to riches

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS posted:

finvibin my way to riches

While I sit here getting fat on flavo-fibes.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴

dialhforhero posted:

What about four twenties and three twenties + nine?

Hmm I'm not catching your drift

Dongicus
Jun 12, 2015

Elephant Ambush posted:

I love making fun of domestic violence victims and their harmless issues

It's hilarious and not at all hosed up and sociopathic

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
A tangled skein of bad opinions, the hottest takes, and the the world's most misinformed nonsense. Do not engage with me, it's useless, and better yet, put me on ignore.
That looks slightly off, like a bootleg Simpsons

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

:pwn:

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

ahahahaha

Zero_Grade
Mar 18, 2004

Darktider 🖤🌊

~Neck Angels~

Powered Descent posted:

While I sit here getting fat on flavo-fibes.
I can't believe someone fumbled or bobbled the Fingal dopple.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

The dialectical struggle of history has always, essentially, been a question of how to apply justice to matter. Take away matter and what remains is justice.

THIS SAYS A LOT ABOUT OUR SOCIETY

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.




Lol

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Mushika posted:

I remember the Tickle Me Elmo wars. They weren't pretty. Not pretty at all.

Every other Tickle Elmo is good.
Tickle Me Elmo : bad
Ticke XP Elmo : good
Tickle Vista Elmo : bad

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
https://twitter.com/anandymous17/status/1756075784941547520?t=m1xBDMiTYUFCAVHmxlqrZQ&s=19
:qq: but he had 3 apes!

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

If you click through (and I absolutely don't blame anyone for not doing that) his last line is "oh and you should smile more often" which makes it seem to me he isn't the actual person who cancelled a date so he could go on a podcast talking about 3 apes.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Yeah it's definitely very believable it was this guy who sent the text and not farming engagement on a hit tweet

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
on things that actually happened: the monumentally unappealing liberal streamer guy named Vaush accidentally showed a screen of his very explicit horse/child cartoon porn collection on his stream the other day, no we don't need to see pictures of that but fyi

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)

Woof, yeah thanks for getting in front of that. Not something that belongs in this thread.

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

"Literal translations" people are always the weirdest to me; much like "unbiased review" people; they seem to think theres a mythical ideal they're being denied somehow, and it comes down to a really weird combination of originalism, neo-mystic orient, and just not liking that gay people exist.

NoiseAnnoys
May 17, 2010

RareAcumen posted:

Yeah my experience is mainly through memes but even outside of that I know that people say English is either the hardest or at least one of the top 3 hardest languages to learn because it's just chunks of different languages torn off each other and sewed onto itself. All my info is anecdotal but I also hear that French is very weird in some fashion. Either the pronouns or grammar or it was something like the format. I don't remember specifically.

all languages are weird, no language is any more weird than any other. it's just that none of them directly translate to each other in any real meaningful sense, everything has to filter into another language's idiom, structure, morphology, and so on. even closely related language families like the romance or slavic branches of indo-european have difficulties directly translating into each other, let alone going from japanese to english or whatever.

english's major advantage is its robust vocabulary and word order and the weaker reliance on inflection (morphological) or verbal aspect. it's major difficulty is the fact that it is highly irregular, but in practice it doesn't really matter if someone uses an irregular form of a verb. for a germanic speaker, english's relatively similar word order is an asset to learning it, but it's not really that much help, any more than the proportion of our shared vocabulary with french helps us or a francophone.

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Modal Auxiliary
Jan 14, 2005

Flesh Forge posted:

on things that actually happened: the monumentally unappealing liberal streamer guy named Vaush accidentally showed a screen of his very explicit horse/child cartoon porn collection on his stream the other day, no we don't need to see pictures of that but fyi

I didn't know who this was so I looked him up and he looks EXACTLY like the type of dude to have a folder full of cartoon horse porn.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Yeah he looks gross as hell.

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Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)

That guy's 40, right?

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