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Der Kyhe posted:Maybe also stop using Swiss parts or ammo in your system so you don't have to ask their permission to use those weapons outside parades or in other display-only purposes. German engineering is only slightly behind Swiss engineering in terms of cost and complexity and if you still use the Swiss stuff you could just claim the Germans were allowed one(1) bit of fun for the designing and nobody would bat an eye.
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Feb 26, 2024 19:48
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Sedgr posted:It's really great everyone in NATO keeps producing specialized bespoke artisanal weapons systems that need unicorn babysitters and one off hand made parts and servicing. I feel like asraam, storm shadow/scalp and brimstone being bolted to various trucks and old Soviet aircraft and made to work within a few months of handing the requirement to the engineers kind of puts the lie to this.
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Feb 26, 2024 19:48
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large hands posted:I feel like asraam, storm shadow/scalp and brimstone being bolted to various trucks and old Soviet aircraft and made to work within a few months of handing the requirement to the engineers kind of puts the lie to this. All of those were made in the 90s though. There's way wilder poo poo in the NATO arsenal but it requires 10x more ancillary systems 
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Feb 26, 2024 19:58
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mobby_6kl posted:Olaf's just making up excuses I get the feeling the supply of Taurus missiles is something like 80% of Germany's combat power and they are terrified of giving it away.
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Feb 26, 2024 20:52
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haddedam posted:A century by now. This is classic gulag behavior, just Russia has modernized it and made gulag be a mobile entity rather than be chained to a set of buildings. Please note that the original gulags were always distributed and mobile, for instance by rail to nowhere in Siberia, over the corpses of the previous forced labor crews now being thus replaced, to further extend the rail by an extra few meters before turning the new crews into sleepers themselves. It was always distributed, hence the title to Solzhenitsyn's the Gulag Archipelago, the book that put the terror on hold for a while.
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Feb 26, 2024 22:31
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large hands posted:I feel like asraam, storm shadow/scalp and brimstone being bolted to various trucks and old Soviet aircraft and made to work within a few months of handing the requirement to the engineers kind of puts the lie to this. Attaching a weapon system to a platform is completely different from integrating weapons systems, or even cracking open a weapon system and doing something as simple as moving wires for voltage compatibility. Complex systems have a lot that can go wrong, and no amount of manuals change the literal decade of experience and rote knowledge a consultant can provide when you're looking to have it fixed PDQ.  Soldiers on systems can get fast-tracked into consultant jobs for this reason
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Feb 26, 2024 22:50
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Mistle posted:
Can attest.
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Feb 26, 2024 23:28
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russia getting owned is extremely funny tbh
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Feb 26, 2024 23:28
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Mistle posted:
seems like a huge problem to fundamentally have a personnel system that results in experienced people leaving the service to come back as contractors doing the same job, but charging you loads more money and also you cant just order them to do poo poo anymore
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Feb 26, 2024 23:33
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OctaMurk posted:seems like a huge problem to fundamentally have a personnel system that results in experienced people leaving the service to come back as contractors doing the same job, but charging you loads more money and also you cant just order them to do poo poo anymore There's always an inherent tension in militaries in the use of conscription/kidnapping/enslavement vs mercenary free soldiers. Technically the definition of 'mercenary' includes all volunteer soldiers even if they only work for a single nation state client and while one can claim that definition is too broad by the time you're being paid $$$ as a free lancer to handle/teach military equipment we're pretty much back to the early modern armies hiring mercenary officers as trainers. Ronwayne fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Feb 26, 2024 |
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Feb 26, 2024 23:37
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scalp my assram
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Feb 26, 2024 23:41
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Ronwayne posted:There's always an inherent tension in militaries in the use of conscription/kidnapping/enslavement vs mercenary free soldiers. Technically the definition of 'mercenary' includes all volunteer soldiers even if they only work for a single nation state client and while one can claim that definition is too broad by the time you're being paid $$$ as a free lancer to handle/teach military equipment we're pretty much back to the early modern armies hiring mercenary officers as trainers. Funny story a few years ago a friend of mine that I served with posted a political cartoon about the government shutting down and not paying the troops, etc. I commented "oh so you're just a mercenary." Except it wasn't on his page. It was on some conservative page. I got actual death threats told I wasn't good enough to lick his boots, etc. It didn't matter that he immediately stepped in to say that I had done 20 years of service. The hate just kept coming. gently caress all of those people.
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Feb 27, 2024 00:04
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OctaMurk posted:seems like a huge problem to fundamentally have a personnel system that results in experienced people leaving the service to come back as contractors doing the same job, but charging you loads more money and also you cant just order them to do poo poo anymore You can't make military personnel stay in the military forever (in most countries) The argument seems naive. Also, while anecdotal, contractors listen better than most troops because they are paid so well (at least technical ones, idk about flightline or gateguard rent-a-cops or w/e). Victis fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Feb 27, 2024 |
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Feb 27, 2024 00:25
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Flyinglemur posted:Funny story a few years ago a friend of mine that I served with posted a political cartoon about the government shutting down and not paying the troops, etc. I commented "oh so you're just a mercenary." Is it even worth it if you can't wear a giant feathered hat and pantaloons to work?
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Feb 27, 2024 00:26
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rowkey bilbao posted:scalp my assram I will
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Feb 27, 2024 01:34
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rowkey bilbao posted:scalp my assram "Whatever MiG-15" <said in thick ignorant MAGA accent>
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Feb 27, 2024 02:05
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Ronwayne posted:Is it even worth it if you can't wear a giant feathered hat and pantaloons to work? Just because I couldn't wear them AT work didn't mean I didn't wear them to and from work
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Feb 27, 2024 03:35
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mllaneza posted:There's been some reorganization of Russian forces facing the Kupiansk direction that suggest a strong push there is impending. A considerable stretch of front with offensive activity has been placed under the Western Military District. This will aid in coordination between multiple short-term objectives. Taking Kupiansk threatens Kharkiv and also helps take all of Donetsk oblast. Thanks, appreciate the rec
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Feb 27, 2024 03:37
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I'm surprised with Macron openly musing about sending EU troops to Ukraine. Maybe just send the ammo and long range missiles first, which is what ukraine is asking for, instead of doing whatever this is.
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Feb 27, 2024 06:49
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mes trooks
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Feb 27, 2024 08:04
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rowkey bilbao posted:I'm surprised with Macron openly musing about sending EU troops to Ukraine. Posturing? Telling tall tales? It's safe to talk about things that he knows 100% will never happen. Sending combat material otoh 
Potrzebie fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Feb 27, 2024 |
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Feb 27, 2024 08:17
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France has been sending SCALP-EG which is storm shadow, so that's been good. They also were the ones insisting on not buying ammo from abroad and producing it in Europe when the EU made the million rounds of 155 pledge, and welp that didn't work out.
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Feb 27, 2024 08:31
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spankmeister posted:France has been sending SCALP-EG which is storm shadow, so that's been good. They also were the ones insisting on not buying ammo from abroad and producing it in Europe when the EU made the million rounds of 155 pledge, and welp that didn't work out. They've reportedly walked back on that, leaving Greece and Cyprus as the holdouts. Their reason to oppose extra-EU purchases is that they don't want to bolster the Turkish arms industry.
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Feb 27, 2024 11:03
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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1762233799193051335#m  
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Feb 27, 2024 11:27
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https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1762342191614087442quote:water sports 
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Feb 27, 2024 13:51
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Two Su-34s were shot down today by Ukrainian air defense.
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Feb 27, 2024 15:12
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zone posted:Two Su-34s were shot down today by Ukrainian air defense. What the gently caress is happening with the russian air force? Can they handle this level of attrition for long?
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Feb 27, 2024 15:20
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It sounds like Russia’s just feeding Su-34s to Ukrainian air defenses and then Vladimir Putin started crying.
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Feb 27, 2024 15:22
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zone posted:Two Su-34s were shot down today by Ukrainian air defense. Isn't it more likely to be Russian air defence?
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Feb 27, 2024 15:24
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zone posted:Two Su-34s were shot down today by Ukrainian air defense. Those French homonazi super-soldiers work fast!
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Feb 27, 2024 15:25
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Nice piece of fish posted:What the gently caress is happening with the russian air force? Can they handle this level of attrition for long? It's actually brilliant strategy by russia, trying to get Ukraine to use up all the Patriot missiles.
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Feb 27, 2024 15:26
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Nice piece of fish posted:What the gently caress is happening with the russian air force? Can they handle this level of attrition for long? If the pilots keep getting killed, no.
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Feb 27, 2024 15:27
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Good. gently caress racists.
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Feb 27, 2024 15:29
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When Ukraine gets their F16s, Russia will whine and threaten nukes because it's not fair since they have no fighter jets.
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Feb 27, 2024 15:31
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Some people really can't resist the idea of biting the hand that feeds, can they?
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Feb 27, 2024 15:32
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The multi-polar world is whites only.
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Feb 27, 2024 15:34
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Nice piece of fish posted:What the gently caress is happening with the russian air force? Can they handle this level of attrition for long? Michael Kofman and co were saying in a War on the Rocks episode that aircraft the shoot down numbers have been inflated throughout the war. The number of crashes as pointed out by Justin Bronk in the recent Perrin interview indicate that maintenance was being foregone from the high tempo of sorties especially during the Summer counteroffensive and Mig31s are in short supply, but I have my doubts on the aircraft numbers. It doesn’t seem as dire as Russia’s naval situation.
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Feb 27, 2024 15:35
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McGavin posted:The multi-polar world is whites only. Welcome to the Russian Mir!
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Feb 27, 2024 15:40
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Nice piece of fish posted:What the gently caress is happening with the russian air force? Can they handle this level of attrition for long? Supposedly they have more planes than pilots available so they can technically afford to lose some models but the lost pilots hurts them more. They're nowhere near the point where their air power is going to significantly degraded by the loss of 4-6 fighters every few months unfortunately. If they start losing that many every few days, along with the pilots, then they might actually have their air power significantly degraded after a month or 2.
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Thursday address from Putin. Will he annex transnostria?
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