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Data Graham posted:Yeah, for some reason I thought that reaver chase scene was from one of the first Firefly TV episodes, don't know what happened there. There was a Reaver chase, but it was different. They tried to outrun a Reaver ship by flipping around and setting their exhaust on fire. Can't seem to find it on YouTube.
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mojo1701a posted:There was a Reaver chase, but it was different. They tried to outrun a Reaver ship by flipping around and setting their exhaust on fire. Can't seem to find it on YouTube. Ah yes. Crazy Ivan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3rX0T2XNxs
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So I tried Zima for the first time today. It was poo poo.
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:So I tried Zima for the first time today. It was poo poo. Probably because the last Zima produced was made in like 2008.
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Zima is still being sold and marketed in Japan. http://www.foodbeast.com/news/zima-still-exists-and-we-found-out-exactly-where-to-find-it/
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So what is up with this recurring thing in Crusade where someone says something like "He's hiding something" and then someone else replies "Everyone hides things"? It's happened like five times now, always with different characters and referring to different things that "everybody" does. Is this some kind of deliberate style thing that JMS came up with, or did he suddenly develop a tic?
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It happens at least once in the main B5 run too, with "everybody lies" when they're trying to root out the mole
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JMS has a problem with "Tell, don't show". When his ideas are good enough, they can carry it. When they aren't . . .
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My 15- and 13-year-old daughters are taking more of an interest in B5 this time through; part of the reason my wife wanted to do the rewatch so soon is because she knew they would. The older one is admiring Lennier's dedication to Delenn. I can't wait. ![]()
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Binary Badger posted:Zima is still being sold and marketed in Japan. Exactly. I live in Japan and it's super easy to find at any convenience store or supermarket. I just never got around to it until last night.
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Data Graham posted:Yeah, for some reason I thought that reaver chase scene was from one of the first Firefly TV episodes, don't know what happened there. You were thinking of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3rX0T2XNxs&hd=1 Edit: Oops, missed a page.
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:My 15- and 13-year-old daughters are taking more of an interest in B5 this time through; part of the reason my wife wanted to do the rewatch so soon is because she knew they would. Oh dear. That's going to be a rough lesson in the end.
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rydiafan posted:You were thinking of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3rX0T2XNxs&hd=1 I was indeed. That's exactly what I was loving thinking of. Thank you. drat that's pretty. I don't care when that was rendered, I could watch that all day.
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Dirty posted:Gideon's hover-bike chase and the Homunculous were particular low points, but I think they'd have looked bad in any series around that time period - they were both overambitious. I get that the homunculous wasn't supposed to be photoreal, but I assume was also supposed to not look laughable. I think the effects house change is big. The people at Netter Digital did not have the experience (or creative vision) that Foundation Imaging did. Another thing is that technology was pretty rapidly progressing at that time, and Firefly still came out a couple years after Crusade did. More CPU power and more memory allows for more detailed models and effects.
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"The Needs of Earth", wow... this alien porn episode goes back and forth between totally ridiculous and actually a quite drat good piece of sci-fi writing. I particularly enjoyed how the porn wasn't just a one-off gag like I thought it was going to be—it tied in thematically to the idea of a culture's creative output being a thing of worth, and how such a thing can be devalued and discarded in a time of a certain flavor of authoritarianism. And the title: yes, Earth has "needs" ![]() But then at the same time, that heavy-handed Jesus metaphor with Matheson soliloquizing in his diary, maaan you didn't need to hammer it so hard. I don't know why he and everybody else aside from Gideon didn't see "the dude got stuck all by himself on a shuttle on autopilot" as a clear target-practice setup. I'm not the swiftest on the draw, but when Matheson and the alien guy locked eyes in the corridor I totally thought he was going to say "They're going to kill you, you realize that". But no, apparently this possibility didn't even occur to him until he casually mentioned it to Gideon and Gideon was all like WHAAAAAT ![]() Crusade is such a bewilderingly lumpy mix of tasty stuff and really lovely pockets of unmixed dough.
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Oh yeah, and I can't believe they straight up reused Tom Lehrer's "When Mozart was my age, he'd been dead for two years" joke.
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Probably should bump this so it doesn't get archived. We're still plugging along; just past the halfway point in season 3 at Ship of Tears. Every time we see the opening theme I still think, "this will never get old."
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Its February and time for my yearly rewatch of B5. Oh man I love watching I In the Beginning followed by the gathering.
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Glad this thread was bumped because I wanted to ask something relevant: I was watching TV the other day, and all I could think was Kellyanne Conway sounds like that political office B5 had for an episode that was trying to sleep with Sheridan. Am I the only one?
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I had the exact same thought. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKL_I4pJs84 I've been thinking about doing a rewatch myself, but some parts of the Earth arc are going to be really uncomfortable right now.
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I've been watching a few episodes a week with friends, and going through Clark's takeover a few weeks back was unsettling.
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"We're just one happy planet!"
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"President Trump signed a decree today declaring marshal law..."
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Susan's monologue at the end of s2 owns and really gets me.
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I started rewatching this show for the first time. It's amazing how aged it looks. I still prefer hairless Delenn.
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Platonicsolid posted:"President Trump signed a decree today declaring marshal law..." It's martial law, unless you want a clone army of Tommy Lee Jones controlling the judiciary.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocrNSLEkuuc
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Party Plane Jones posted:It's martial law, unless you want a clone army of Tommy Lee Jones controlling the judiciary. Yes! Best typo ever. :-)
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Party Plane Jones posted:It's martial law, unless you want a clone army of Tommy Lee Jones controlling the judiciary. That would be awesome, but an army of Sammo Hungs is fine, I guess.
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Might as well be Martian law in B5, the way they get beat down by Earth.
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I'd forgotten Na'Toth, which is bad because she's pretty funny, no-selling all of G'Kar's bullshit.
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MonsieurChoc posted:I'd forgotten Na'Toth, which is bad because she's pretty funny, no-selling all of G'Kar's bullshit. She was an awesome character and then the second actress kinda got the idea that she needed to be subtle and she disappeared.
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Bieeardo posted:I've been watching a few episodes a week with friends, and going through Clark's takeover a few weeks back was unsettling. "Everything's gone to hell, John. God help us all; you're on your own."
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By Any Means Necessary is still my favorite episode of Season 1. I wish the dock workers had remained relevant in the later seasons. Edit: And gotta love that ending with G'Kar's ceremony. Light that traveled 10 years for that moment... MonsieurChoc fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Feb 10, 2017 |
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We just finished season 3. I've seen the Corbomite Maneuver, the Picard Maneuver, and the Adama Maneuver. None of them can hold a candle to the Sheridan Maneuver.
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:We just finished season 3. I've seen the Corbomite Maneuver, the Picard Maneuver, and the Adama Maneuver. Sends 'em straight to Hell or your money back, guaranteed!
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Oh hey, I didn't know there was a B5 thread again.Panzeh posted:She was an awesome character and then the second actress kinda got the idea that she needed to be subtle and she disappeared. Na'Toth's best scene was the one where Londo gives Vir a "don't give up the homeworld" speech before leaving him in charge of a negotiation, then G'Kar giving Na'Toth the same speech before leaving her in charge. Was that also the one where Vir is playing a Space Game Boy while waiting for G'Kar?
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My favorite part of the whole series was how it was the Centauri who ended up starting a horribly destructive war upon the Narn and not the other way around. When the show started out, the Narn were basically your stereotypical sci-fi warrior race. G'kar was always being aggressive and ready to physically fight, he always went around armed. G'kar dresses like an early modern mercenary or soldier, if it weren't for the mask, he could pass for the Sheriff of Nottingham. The Narn even had red eyes and were more alien-looking than the Centauri. It would've made a whole lot of "sense" narratively for them to be the ones to go and start a war rather than the Centauri. It's what would've happened in Star Trek. But then it all gets flipped around, where before G'kar was the villain who everybody begrudgingly tolerated, now that position belongs to Londo. It gives a lot more moral complexity and makes things more interesting than it would've been the other way around. It's not from individual's willingness to punch or stab that wars get started. I've been meaning to rewatch this series again sometime, but there's not a lot of legitimate ways to do that right now. It's not on any streaming service.
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We just had to buy a new season 2 because of some scratched discs, but they're only like $18 on Amazon. Maybe if we buy enough of them we'll get interest from WB for a remaster... right guys? Right? ![]()
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SlothfulCobra posted:My favorite part of the whole series was how it was the Centauri who ended up starting a horribly destructive war upon the Narn and not the other way around. When the show started out, the Narn were basically your stereotypical sci-fi warrior race. G'kar was always being aggressive and ready to physically fight, he always went around armed. G'kar dresses like an early modern mercenary or soldier, if it weren't for the mask, he could pass for the Sheriff of Nottingham. The Narn even had red eyes and were more alien-looking than the Centauri. It would've made a whole lot of "sense" narratively for them to be the ones to go and start a war rather than the Centauri. It's what would've happened in Star Trek. Yeah, G'Kar and Londo are the best characters in the show. Already as season 1 goes they both get more depth than initially apparant. "No one here is exactly who he seems to be."
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