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augias posted:so getting two doses does make me twice as immune? hot diggity dog! 3 times as immune! B-cells and T-cells hate this trick!
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lol no poo poo this isn't even a new problem. ever since vaccines were invented, you've had chunks of the population resistant to them. if you're in the midst of a highly contagious pandemic, any successful vaccine drive has to vaccinate those people too, and if you have no plan to compel that, failure is inevitable. doubly so when the vaccine in question doesn't confer sterilizing immunity
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Tzen posted:lol could get more vaccinations by doing a PR campaign with MrBeast giving out jabs and wads of cash like the entire 18-34 pop would be slut juiced up in no time I wonder if Asmongold and the OK Boomer girl have gotten vaxxed
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I was trying to explain to a friend last night how the mask guidelines from OSHA and the CDC guidance were in conflict, and how the CDC guideline to not wear masks were released at the perfect time to gently caress over the OSHA draft guidelines. This was all based on some excellent posts earlier by DarkEuphoria and Lansdowne at the end of June, but I couldn’t find the posts and the info wasn’t really organized in my head. I went ahead and found the posts today, and spliced them together in time to more easily explain how things went down starting at the end of April. I thought this would be useful to have for a quick link, and if you haven’t seen their posts I would definitely go and read them: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3926175&pagenumber=6162&perpage=40#post515845869 https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3926175&pagenumber=6166&perpage=40#post515856329 All credit for this goes to them, I just wanted to organize it temporally, and it is kind of funny to go back and re-read this thread to see how the pessimistic posts usually wind up being the accurate ones. April 26 OMB’s OIRA receives updated OSHA ETS (Emergency Temporary Standard – emergency regulations for workers) draft. OMB review expected to end May 10th. [DarkEuphoria, Politico]. This draft includes “grave danger” language and protections for all workers [Lansdowne, Bloomberg Law]. Note that this draft is created and reported on, but not made public. April 29 Industry groups being weighing in on OSHA rules. At least 9 meetings scheduled through May 5th [Lansdowne, Bloomberg Law]. May 7 Talks with industry groups (and OMB-OIRA deadline) extended until May 13th. Narrative of OSHA being slow, vaccinations making regulation unnecessary begins to show up [Lansdowne, Bloomberg Law]. May 10 Minutes from OMB-OIRA meetings include letter from May 3 from Senators Marshall (R-KS), Burr (R-NC), and Scott (R-SC) discussing how additional regulations are not needed, and that OSHA should follow latest CDC guidance, and anyways it is too late for a new ETS to help (lol). [DarkEuphoria,Letter] May 11 More manufacturing consent with color commentary: Cup Runneth Over posted:May 11, 2021 18:50 Tzen posted:May 11, 2021 19:51 May 13 CDC goes mask off. More letters from the OMB-OIRA agenda show dental industry groups fighting against masks [DarkEuphoria]. May 14 Almost immediately, articles start coming out showing the conflict between OSHA rules and CDC guidelines [Lansdowne, Bloomberg Law]. Also, the OMB-OIRA review still isn’t done. May 17 OSHA says to follow CDC guidelines until further review is finished [Lansdowne, Bloomberg Law]. May 20 Major pushback on OSHA’s ability to regulate since they must prove Covid is a “grave danger” and give “due regards” to CDC recommendations [Lansdowne, Bloomberg Law]. Doubts starting to appear publicly that a standard will come at all. May 24 Letter from Republican members of House Committee on Education and Labor send a letter stating that CDC says covid is over so OSHA can’t issue ETS [Lansdowne, Bloomberg Law] May 26 OMB-OIRA deadline pushed back to May 28th; pushback on rules continues from lobbyists. Threats of lawsuits if OSHA requires anything significant [Lansdowne, Bloomberg Law]. June 10 OSHA rules finally released. We are also finally told that OSHA emergency rules don’t require “public input” at all, but in fact the “White House regulatory office chose to solicit opinion from a wide range of advocacy groups.” It also includes a 900-page preamble justifying why “grave danger” is only for healthcare workers [Lansdowne, Bloomberg Law]. June 28 Draft from April released allowing us to see what was in the original proposal, and that it covered all workers and not just healthcare [Lansdowne, Bloomberg Law].
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Please don't be a dipshit and encourage worried goons to give fraudulent social security numbers to CVS to get another set of shots just a month after being fully vaccinated when there is no evidence that it will take them above the standard ~90% efficacy rate and hasn't been studied for potential side-effects. Especially, when you don't know that person's specific medical history. They should just get their doctor to prescribe them a low dose of ivermectin
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FORUMS USER 1135 posted:I was trying to explain to a friend last night how the mask guidelines from OSHA and the CDC guidance were in conflict, and how the CDC guideline to not wear masks were released at the perfect time to gently caress over the OSHA draft guidelines. This was all based on some excellent posts earlier by DarkEuphoria and Lansdowne at the end of June, but I couldn’t find the posts and the info wasn’t really organized in my head. I went ahead and found the posts today, and spliced them together in time to more easily explain how things went down starting at the end of April. I thought this would be useful to have for a quick link, and if you haven’t seen their posts I would definitely go and read them: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3926175&pagenumber=6162&perpage=40#post515845869 openb iden
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lol, just remembered current guidelines don't require vaccinated people to quarantine after exposure to a confirmed case
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Spoondick posted:lol, just remembered current guidelines don't require vaccinated people to quarantine after exposure to a confirmed case One of the amazing examples of the CDC telling people they don't need to do something that they probably should.
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Lamo this guy https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1418268478356791298?s=21
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Spoondick posted:lol, just remembered current guidelines don't require vaccinated people to quarantine after exposure to a confirmed case they don't even need to get tested if they aren't showing symptoms! we have no idea how bad breakthroughs really are because of this bullshit
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Step 1 is to refuse to acknowledge that breakthroughs exist. Step 2 is that when they do happen you pretend like you never did step 1 and that the people calling you a dumbass at that step think that the vaccines are sugar water.
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I posted last week about being exposed to a breakthrough case at work. I had 2 clean PCR tests at 6 days post-exposure, and a third at 8 days post-exposure so it looks like I've missed it. The good news of our case is that there were about 4-5 people in the office with extensive exposure to the breakthrough case (5+ hours in a small conference room) and so far there's no identified spread. I'm hoping this means that vaccinated-vaccinated transfer is rare with breakthrough cases.
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Dunno why but posting this seems right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es3Vsfzdr14
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bleeding kansas posted:i stand by it, and thats a great example of what i mean It's nice to know what variety of dipshit is providing selection pressure for immunity escape, by hobnobbing with the unvaxx'd mutation pool.
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/covid-19-pandemic-orphaned-children-grief/ I mean with delta and the upcoming waves, the orphaned children problem will get taken care of by the end of the year. Also a great way to cut down on childcare and education costs for the average household 👍
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Notahippie posted:I posted last week about being exposed to a breakthrough case at work. I had 2 clean PCR tests at 6 days post-exposure, and a third at 8 days post-exposure so it looks like I've missed it. 
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Notahippie posted:I posted last week about being exposed to a breakthrough case at work. I had 2 clean PCR tests at 6 days post-exposure, and a third at 8 days post-exposure so it looks like I've missed it. Do you still mask up at work or do you bare your face?
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Notahippie posted:I posted last week about being exposed to a breakthrough case at work. I had 2 clean PCR tests at 6 days post-exposure, and a third at 8 days post-exposure so it looks like I've missed it. rare maybe in your anecdote, but singapore contact tracing is loaded with vaccinated -> vaccinated spread. some of the israeli cases were vaccinated -> vaccinated -> classroom full of unvaccinated kids too. it's certainly less common but definitely not a nothingburger
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Helith posted:It’s great, I’ve never actually been so interested in the Olympics  and I love me some sportsball
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Lacrosse posted:Do you still mask up at work or do you bare your face? Up until this I was barefaced, because that was the office policy and I didn't think a mask would help me personally unless I went full respirator. My wife convinced me that I was off-base and that there is some data showing that simple masking does help. The office shut down for 2 weeks after the exposure, and we're working a hybrid schedule with people in the office 2x/week so when we reopen next week I'll be masked.
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The SEC is doing something similar. Games will not be rescheduled for COVID. There will either be a forfeit or no-contest recorded in the event a team is unable to compete due to COVID. quote:"The message to schools is "You're expected to play as scheduled," Sankey said.
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mod sassinator posted:rare maybe in your anecdote, but singapore contact tracing is loaded with vaccinated -> vaccinated spread. some of the israeli cases were vaccinated -> vaccinated -> classroom full of unvaccinated kids too. it's certainly less common but definitely not a nothingburger ah, poo poo. I should know better at this point than to allow even a brief flicker of optimism
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Notahippie posted:Up until this I was barefaced, because that was the office policy and I didn't think a mask would help me personally unless I went full respirator. it's zero cost and 99% effective protection--keep the masking and don't let any office goon make you feel bad for it
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Golli posted:The SEC is doing something similar. this will be a historic year where there is no superbowl or college championship because every single game was forfeit or maybe this will finally be the year navy wins... just keep those guys in a bubble on a carrier in the pacific for the entire season, practicing dilligently on the deck and fly them in for the last game lol
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Notahippie posted:Up until this I was barefaced, because that was the office policy and I didn't think a mask would help me personally unless I went full respirator. I'm only wearing a 3 layer cloth mask (+ a 5 layer p2.5 filter) in the office because I honestly believe it helps. Sorry respirator crew, I don't think you're crazy but it's not for me.
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Glumwheels posted:Chuds hosed around and found out
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Lacrosse posted:I'm only wearing a 3 layer cloth mask (+ a 5 layer p2.5 filter) in the office because I honestly believe it helps. Sorry respirator crew, I don't think you're crazy but it's not for me. respirator is 90% for the reuseability and comfort. they feel better with silicone on the edge of your face instead of tight cloth. you can clean them inside too and keep them from getting as funky. and if people don't care about exhaust ports anymore then they're more comfortable to breath out of vs. masks any extra protection they provide shouldn't really factor in to any risk taking or decision making IMHO. pretend they're a cloth mask still edit: there's also the psychological gently caress you to management where they have to see and acknowledge that yes, we are still in a deadly pandemic spread by airborne virus mod sassinator has issued a correction as of 19:47 on Jul 22, 2021 |
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Forseti posted:Dunno why but posting this seems right We are so blessed to have Grandpa Elliot's voice recorded for all to hear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us-TVg40ExM Here's my fave from this project: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xjPODksI08 Anyway. We're locked in for the wave, however it shakes out. Take care, everyone. Strep Vote has issued a correction as of 19:47 on Jul 22, 2021 |
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