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sparkmaster posted:Going to be awfully painful when those bonks become booms. 2 more months until the first reliability increase.
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wedgekree posted:So, presuming you sink both RN CV's (Which seems likely as even the one that wasn't thought to be sunk isn't goign to get far if it has moderate damage), how many does Alikchi have left that you're aware of? Well, as we can see the RN still has Ark Royal and Hermes in theatre, the USN has Enterprise, Yorktown, Wasp, Hamilton and Scourge. In addition there are unknown numbers of CVEs, and maybe even a CVL or two now? Or maybe not quite yet. Jobbo_Fett posted:Could it be that the destroyer auto-bailed from the Task Force and got further away then everything else (that sunk)? It shouldn't have, an of course surely he didn't escort two carriers and two cruisers with only a single destroyer. For my part I think this must have been the turn the game crashed, so that's why we didn't turn back, but to know what happened to them you'd have to ask Alikchi. Jobbo_Fett posted:Lots of Ops and Air-to-Air losses might've just wiped out all the planes anyways. The armoured carriers would have less than their US counterparts, and they already took part in at least one excursion... It's possible that they went down with no aircraft at all on their decks, the biplanes have great reliability so they could have flown 100% of their inventory, but I think it kind of unlikely all the same. The massive OP losses do suggest there was a wave airborne that we never even saw, presumably due to weather, that on return were of course unable to land and had to ditch enmasse. wedgekree posted:Aww, think both carriers likely survived? And could they get to port? What you think the odds are of having hit them badly enough they went down? Since there were no signs of field losses for planes which would indicate they bubbled? The odds of both surviving are pretty slim I'd say, but honestly I don't really care - either they're down which is great, or else they are so badly damaged we won't see them until probably '45, by which time the presence or absence of two rather small carriers isn't going to make very much difference to anything. They are out of the war for '43 and the first half of '44, which is when the game is really decided. Rogue0071 posted:Is there a reason I'm missing for why you're going after the heavy industry rather than one of the other options? In my experience playing the Allies, I usually have the HI in Australia turned off anyway because the supplies it produces are not worth the fuel it sucks up given how important maintaining fuel reserves for fleet actions around Australia is. Not really  You're quite right that the light industry would have been the best target, but at the same time the actual damage effect is quite negligible, I'm purely fishing for strat points, not actually trying to cripple Australia's industry, wince Australia's industry, is, as you point out, pretty irrelevant really. wedgekree posted:Huh, so that's.. All the RN CV's in the area. Hermes, Ark Royal in Perth, Formidable and Illustrious likely making for the northern ports (if they haven't gone down).. Think you have reasonable chances of sinking any of them if they're all in port or not super likely due to deck armor? 800kg bombs from the Kates are going to rip those girls to shreds. If I was him I'd send them on a sprint due south tonight, but if they aren't in a readiness state then of course that's not an option. sparkmaster posted:Going to be awfully painful when those bonks become booms. Don't even talk about it!
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  Bonk.    I don’t think another bonk is going to be enough to save her.  I thought she looked small, but if there’s DDs escorting maybe she's actually part of a big convoy passing through   This is horrible.  Go away!!! *sobs impotently*  This one went for an escort at least.  Come on, it’s now or never.  Yes!!    Average weather at Perth.  Bounce these you fuckers!!!  Like butter.  Well where else would it explode?    And one for Hermes.   Just casually sink four carriers in four days, nbd.  Jamshedpur’s turn.  Two supply hits!  And the next wave finally gets that Warhawk.  No CAP today opposing us in Australia.  I wonder if the infantry has moved, and the LRCAP with them.  The Anns might have missed the artillery, but the Hellens do good work.  Haven't seen Wapitas in a while.  Oh dear, now he knows how little we have here.  Broome.  Ranchi, where we have some random CAP from somewhere.  Who knows where, but they do bloody good work.  Nice.  But they were only passing through, apparently.  In rough terrain and with forts we scarcely need it anyway.  Or maybe we do need it   Hitting Katherine.  I hope our flak gunners are feeling frisky!  They did good.  That’s not all though.   More Vals for Perth.  Well, it all helps I suppose.  Calcutta below 250!!  But quiet at Jamshedpur today.  On it goes.  Where’s my 40 destroyed?!  Benares not so quiet.  Two disabled today at Ranchi  Ridiculous.   Well. This battle of Western Australia has gone from a consolation prize to a smashing success.   A bunch of carrier planes as OP losses you day  I’d actually forgotten about this tanker, and as it turns out frankly she was rather forgettable.  We lay down a new Standard B at Nagoya, due for completion on the 13th of April.  Not quite an already replaced meme, but we do start work in the next dock on a tanker, due the second of June.  Palembang regains peak oil production!  Refineries are still another month and more out from being fully repaired.  The mini KB is undergoing maintenance at Singapore to recover from their sprints.  It’s now getting worryingly close to 1943, and in anticipation of aerial mine dropping I’m starting to convert spare small freighters into minesweepers. Every port in Liberator range (20 hexes or more) will require minesweepers on permanent duty. I’m not sure exactly how it works in WitP, never having played a game into ‘43, but I know it was devastating in real life, and I’m not taking chances.   The 22nd is almost here, and so we are moving the Corps HQ back down to Howrah, to ensure they are in range for proper leadership bonus stacking when we attack Calcutta.  The only unit immediately available to reinforce Salem is the 2nd recon Battalion. Not my first pick by any means, but if that’s what we have then that’s what we have.  And the 14th guard regiment, who have been resting at Asansol after I think heavy fighting on the outskirts of Jamshedpur, will be packing to join them. Hopefully they can get there in time to be able to take the short cut, and not have to go all the way around via Trichinopoly.  We’re going to establish a presence at Bangalore, to discourage moving troops out for a thrust towards Salem.  And in that case we might as well start trying to claim more hex sides. I don’t think we’ll ever really take Bangalore, but let’s put some pressure on at least.  We did lose a whole bunch of Vals, so it's time for home. We’re going to Soerabaja for overhauling, rather than back to Darwin directly. What a difference it makes having the Vals on 10k rather than 15, I really wasn’t expecting it to be so dramatic.  So they have been moving after all. We’re going to push on with those who are already at Daly Waters, but the lagging remnants of the 40th we will send out west.  And we need to step up the intensity of the bombing to make absolutely sure both enemy divisions get slowed everyday.
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aphid_licker posted:Ooooof that's gotta smart It's by specific ship class. For example, To'su class xAKLs can become patrol boats or minetenders while Miyati class xAKLs become small ship tenders and Kiso class xAKLs can become patrol boats or minetenders or ship tenders. Generally speaking, small freighters turn into patrol boats/tenders/mine tenders while (some) larger freighters can become more useful utility ships like ammo handlers, tankers and seaplane tenders.
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uPen posted:It's by specific ship class. For example, To'su class xAKLs can become patrol boats or minetenders while Miyati class xAKLs become small ship tenders and Kiso class xAKLs can become patrol boats or minetenders or ship tenders. Generally speaking, small freighters turn into patrol boats/tenders/mine tenders while (some) larger freighters can become more useful utility ships like ammo handlers, tankers and seaplane tenders. Holy cow that feature must've been a pain to implement
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aphid_licker posted:Holy cow that feature must've been a pain to implement In the database it looks quite similar straight ship class refits and land unit TOE upgrades. It's a field on the ship class where you can specify what other ship classes it can convert to, what kind of shipyard is required and how long it takes. The real PITA is defining all the ship classes, because devices have no affinities whatsoever, so you have to hunt down the device-IDs of every device on the ship, or scroll through the entire device table in a drop down. Everything from naval rifles or malayan milita squads to engineer vehicles is in one giant "devices" list, and the game happily lets you mix and match freely, the device just wont do anything if it's of the wrong type for the unit container you put it in. So a ship is an instance of a ship class, and a land unit is an instance of a TOE, and those are just containers for a set of devices.
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Wow, nice raid! Very nice raid Four carriers that are mission kills even if none go down. Congratulations on some very good sucess!
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Caconym posted:In the database it looks quite similar straight ship class refits and land unit TOE upgrades. It's a field on the ship class where you can specify what other ship classes it can convert to, what kind of shipyard is required and how long it takes. Yeah I meant in terms of researching and making an upgrade path call on every fuckin ship class in the Pacific theatre
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aphid_licker posted:Yeah I meant in terms of researching and making an upgrade path call on every fuckin ship class in the Pacific theatre The devs take a lot of shortcuts here - the USN and IJN ships are usually pretty detailed in their upgrade paths, but the British and Dutch ones often just have a single upgrade. Merchant ships also just have one upgrade, and a lot of the classes here are abstracted.
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Randomcheese3 posted:The devs take a lot of shortcuts here - the USN and IJN ships are usually pretty detailed in their upgrade paths, but the British and Dutch ones often just have a single upgrade. Merchant ships also just have one upgrade, and a lot of the classes here are abstracted. Heh. Ya’ll should try DaBigBabes scenario files. Adds a gently caress-ton of smaller ship classes and upgrade paths. The one that halves cargo capacities is fun too. 
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aphid_licker posted:Sweet Jesus Oh and Pharnakes finding the British CVs in Perth is going to be a lot of fun. How long can the Mini KB stay in the area?
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CannonFodder posted:Oh and Pharnakes finding the British CVs in Perth is going to be a lot of fun. How long can the Mini KB stay in the area? Mini-KB is in Singapore. Half the big KB was what just dunked on the british carriers. Alikchi is probably going to get them outta Perth after emergency repairs. Still, that's basically all british carriers crippled for like half a year+. This really isn't the Empire's war. 
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Kylaer posted:If it's split up, isn't it no longer the Kido Butai Maybe there's a KiBu and a DoTai. That's how the Japanese language works, right?
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aphid_licker posted:Can you just starve out Calcutta? It srsly looks like they're about to evaporate over the next quarter, half year IIRC there was some magical supply source at the siege of Bandoeng that kept producing supplies despite the city being entirely cut off, I'm assuming Calcutta can do the same. But I've never played the game and freely admit that I don't understand supplies, or what supply hits translate to.
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Kylaer posted:IIRC there was some magical supply source at the siege of Bandoeng that kept producing supplies despite the city being entirely cut off, I'm assuming Calcutta can do the same. But I've never played the game and freely admit that I don't understand supplies, or what supply hits translate to. That was some Bandoeng-specific thing, in principle you can indeed starve units out.
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Kylaer posted:How do you say "Scratch two flattops" in Japanese They are almost certainly repairable (well possibly not Hermes, being so small, but being so small Hermes is pretty irrelevant). MrYenko posted:Those Val’s are just getting roughed up every time you engage with them. Any timeline on Judy’s? The Judy is in full production, and nearing sufficient in the pool to outfit one carrier. CannonFodder posted:Yeah, a sub getting tired of poo poo torps and surfacing to try with deck guns is always fun, but the frieghter shot back??? That's the really good stuff. I don't think I've ever seen an xAKL fight off a submarine before, the captain of Gunnel must be a massive coward. Lakedaimon posted:What kind of ships are hanging out at Port Hedlund in Australia just west of your base in Broome? I'm assuming he wouldnt put anything too important there in such close proximity to your airfields and well within striking range of carrier aviation. According to recon just barges and PT boats, and as you say it surely can't be much more. Magni posted:Mini-KB is in Singapore. Half the big KB was what just dunked on the british carriers. Yeah, the RN's capability to influence the outcome of the war is basically removed now. They'll be back, but only once the game has entered the "get dunked on by Essexes" phase, during which the RN will be pretty irrelevant. The mod does have a few nice things for them yet to come, but without the rest of the fleet to support them they will have to just sit in port. CannonFodder posted:Maybe there's a KiBu and a DoTai. This is now cannon. CannonFodder posted:15 B-17 Fortresses in late 1942. Yeah, it's only going to get worse. Oh, the superfort isn't even the half of it in this mod. Woodchip posted:Is the Calcutta airfield still getting repaired? If not their supply situation may be getting worse. It's impossible to tell with the bombing, but there's no doubt their supply situation is getting worse, the only question is how worse exactly has it got. The rate of AV drop compared to the actual direct casualties we inflict suggest pretty loving dire, but we can only really confirm that by launching a ground attack, which isn't something we want to half rear end, since there isn't any kind of way to do a probing attack/recon by fire in WitP. Well, other than bombardments, which we are already doing. And which really take recon by fire entirely too literally Kylaer posted:Finishing off that pocket looks like it freed up a lot of units. After they've rested, it looks like you could send them to Benares, Ranchi(?), Jamshedpur, or Calcutta. Are they enough force to significantly influence any of those battles? Are you thinking it's possible to domino your way through resolving all those ongoing fights? It frees up a good chunk yes, but like the men we have at Benares this is the tip of our spear, and we don't want to use them for slugfests like Calcutta or Jamshedpur. If and when we take Calcutta we will be using that stack to hit Jamshedpur, and then yes I absolutely hope we can finally punish Alikchi for his strategy of static point defences by just waltzing around smashing them one at a time with our full strength. It will be the role of our elite units to be mobile and foil any counter attacks that might try to force us to split up our doom stack. aphid_licker posted:Can you just starve out Calcutta? It srsly looks like they're about to evaporate over the next quarter, half year We could, eventually. At current progress it would take another 4-6 months, which I don't feel like waiting for. Kylaer posted:IIRC there was some magical supply source at the siege of Bandoeng that kept producing supplies despite the city being entirely cut off, I'm assuming Calcutta can do the same. But I've never played the game and freely admit that I don't understand supplies, or what supply hits translate to. In fact I'm pretty sure there wasn't. Literal interpretation of the manual would suggest there was, but observation since in how industry on our side behaves in contested hexes would counter that. There must have just been an absolute poo poo ton of supply to start with, and likewise Calcutta I#'m 99% sure isn't producing supplies.
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