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mariooncrack
Dec 27, 2008

Thom Yorke raps posted:

Sure but I live in a 130 year old house with plaster walls, and I think this is a cheaper solution

edit: Powerline ethernet is probably worth looking into. Our router is a good one I believe, we have the TP-Link AX3000 WiFi 6 Router. And my PC has a TP-Link AC1200 PCIe WiFi Card (Archer T4E) which I thought would be fine?
double edit: there is also the issue of needing my PC to be on. I have it set to sleep after a few hours to save power.

How big is your house? You might have better luck with a mesh router system.

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Thom Yorke raps
Nov 2, 2004


mariooncrack posted:

How big is your house? You might have better luck with a mesh router system.

it's 3 stories, 2300 sqft row home. Router is in the middle of the second floor. Running ethernet cable would be a pain

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend

gariig posted:

There's a reason the thread is "Dont [sic] buy an HTPC".

My god how I am only noticing this for the first time

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend

Thom Yorke raps posted:

it's 3 stories, 2300 sqft row home. Router is in the middle of the second floor. Running ethernet cable would be a pain

Seconding trying out Ethernet/power devices. Buy them from a reputable source so you can return them if they don't work, but even with a house that old you'll probably get better results than WiFi. Like mentioned before, a small appliance to host plex would be trivial in price and power usage, and if it was plugged into your router then getting those big files to the Shield would be even easier.

I'm glad a lot of folks jumped in to say don't buy an HTPC though. I hadn't messed with them in awhile but had heard anecdotally that they were a pain if you wanted actual steaming apps and not something like Kodi to run full screen.

Dyscrasia
Jun 23, 2003
Give Me Hamms Premium Draft or Give Me DEATH!!!!
That's why I keep an eye on this thread... I'm waiting for someone to come out with something better than the Shield TV that supports 4k streaming services. I wish I could just use a Linux HTPC as a client for my TV but there is a ton of hardware licensing at play for everything to work.

tuyop
Sep 14, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

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Dyscrasia posted:

something better than the Shield TV that supports 4k streaming services.

I think that’s the Apple TV right?

mariooncrack
Dec 27, 2008

Thom Yorke raps posted:

it's 3 stories, 2300 sqft row home. Router is in the middle of the second floor. Running ethernet cable would be a pain

Mesh routers are different. There's one main router and then satellite routers that can extend the wifi through your house. You only need an ethernet cable to connect the main router though. This would be for the middle of the second floor. You can connect the other satellite routers wireless to the main router. It should give you better coverage than just using one router.

PitViper
May 25, 2003

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Dyscrasia posted:

That's why I keep an eye on this thread... I'm waiting for someone to come out with something better than the Shield TV that supports 4k streaming services.

As soon as this happens, I'd probably buy it. I'm still running a Shield TV 4k from 2017. Steams Netflix and Disney+, runs Kodi for the home media library, can cast from phones and tablets if need be. I bought a couple Google TV Chromecasts for the other two TVs, but it's nowhere near as smooth of an experience.

Apple TV is a no go for the Kodi shared library, sadly. I could switch to Plex, but Kodi has worked for years and has acceptance from the wife/kid since the XBMC days so I'm not gonna change unless I have to.

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


I used Kodi since the early 2000s when it was still XBMC and it was installed on a modded Xbox. I switched to Plex earlier this year and never really looked back. The tipping point was when the Fire TV Stick I had Kodi on died. I was sick of having that device for Kodi only, and I already had the Apple TV. The few features that Kodi had did not outweigh how much more janitoring it required.

Handsome Rob
Jul 12, 2004

Fallen Rib
I've been running Libreelec/Kodi on a RPi 3B+ for ages. Hard drives hooked straight up to the pi, pi hooked straight up to the projector, does exactly what I want it to do as a Netflix replacement.

But I recently got to thinking about a Spotify replacement/supplement. My partner has a lot of music from Bandcamp, friends, herself, etc that isn't on Spotify. I keep it backed up to the same drives hooked up to the pi. So I'm trying to figure out what kind of streaming setup I actually want.

There seem to be a lot of streaming server options. Many of them have Kodi clients, but as far as I can tell, none of them have a Kodi plugin to host a server. Maybe not surprising but I was hopeful that that would be the least disruptive way to do what I want.

Is it finally time after all these years to see what all the Plex fuss is about? I set up a Plex server on my laptop to try it out and with Plexamp it seems to pretty much work as I want. (When does Plex Pass become a thing? Would I need to pay to have a couple people streaming remotely?) The pi is presumably powerful enough to serve music, but I'm not sure how to set it up as both a music server and video frontend at once. I could move all the storage to a Plex server and just use the pi as a client, but it seems silly to stream video to exactly one destination. I could separate the video and music storage and set up another pi or whatever as a server for just music, but then I'd need to buy more hardware and storage. That's fine but I want to be sure we'll actually make use of the setup before investing.

Any suggestions? Feel free to tell me I'm being dumb/overcomplicating this.

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


Plex worked very well for me when I switched my videos over to it about a year ago. I don’t really miss anything from XBMC, and I was using that since the original Xbox. Being able to access it outside my house is something I can’t believe I didn’t do before.

I don’t use it for music though, because I’m very OCD about my music’s metadata.

mariooncrack
Dec 27, 2008
Pretty sure you need Plex Pass to stream outside of your local network without using something like Tailscale.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003
Plex Pass isn't necessary to stream the normal way (though you do have to buy the phone app without it), but I'm pretty sure PlexAmp is only available to Pass subs. I use it and like it a lot.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

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IUG posted:

I don’t use it for music though, because I’m very OCD about my music’s metadata.

I don't use it for my music, but I noticed my library on there and it seems to like the metadata alright. But, it groups by artist and has pictures and a bio from somewhere and I'm sure I'll have some issues with obscure artists being linked to the wrong files.

(if it can't find data on the artist, it doesn't do anything, just leaves their name and a generic icon.)

Burden
Jul 25, 2006

Plexamp is pretty nice. The Plexpass features are just for additional features with making playlists, Lyrics, and visualizations. You should be able to stream or outside your network without paying for Plexpass.

Handsome Rob
Jul 12, 2004

Fallen Rib
I can confirm that Plexamp works just fine without Plexpass from within my home network. I'll see if I can get it going outside and report back. (Edit: very easy, no trouble.)

IUG posted:

Plex worked very well for me when I switched my videos over to it about a year ago. I don’t really miss anything from XBMC, and I was using that since the original Xbox. Being able to access it outside my house is something I can’t believe I didn’t do before.

I don’t use it for music though, because I’m very OCD about my music’s metadata.

Are you running a separate frontend and server or using one machine for both? One of the things I like about my setup right now is the simplicity of having everything self contained in LibreELEC/Kodi.

Handsome Rob fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Jan 3, 2025

tuyop
Sep 14, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

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Handsome Rob posted:

I can confirm that Plexamp works just fine without Plexpass from within my home network. I'll see if I can get it going outside and report back. (Edit: very easy, no trouble.)

Are you running a separate frontend and server or using one machine for both? One of the things I like about my setup right now is the simplicity of having everything self contained in LibreELEC/Kodi.

You can run multiple programs on the one computer you’re using for Kodi already. Plex server is just another program, super easy to install if you have command line access to this computer.

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Handsome Rob
Jul 12, 2004

Fallen Rib

tuyop posted:

You can run multiple programs on the one computer you’re using for Kodi already. Plex server is just another program, super easy to install if you have command line access to this computer.

Using LibreELEC as an OS makes it very very easy to run Kodi and very hard to run anything else. But, yeah, I could swap that out for a proper OS that would handle both.

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