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JayJay
Jun 16, 2005

TEHHHHHH Jetplane!

Does anyone have experience with the 40 inch LN40A650. I have a Samsung TOC 22 inch monitor and I love it, so I figure I can't go wrong on the tv. It is a bit over my 1000 price range, at 1250 shipped. But it seems like it has all the features that should last me for years to come. Its going to be a bedroom tv, primarilly for gaming, so I have full control of the lighting in the room and high gloss shouldn't be too bad.

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Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride
I have an LN52A650 and it's great for gaming. I just finished GTA4 for the third time because it just looks so drat smooth on the TV.

Syfe
Jun 12, 2006


http://us.lge.com/products/model/detail/tv|audio|video_plasma%20flat%20panel__50PG25.jhtml

This is what I've settled on, I think. I can get it for $950, which is significantly less than what it is actually priced at. So I feel good about that.

The other Alternative is getting a 42" A450 Samsung, which I would get at $750, but for the extra $200 I feel like I'm really getting something worthwile.

Is this good?

Bonk
Aug 4, 2002

Douche Baggins

Regnevelc posted:

I have a 630 and I think it looks loving amazing. The Dark Knight on blu-ray blew me away.
I actually got the chance last night to compare the matte vs. glossy screens between the 630 and 650, and I have to say the 650 does look a little brighter.

The 750 has the same screen though, and if it stays the same price (or lowers around the Super Bowl), I might go for that just because I don't see any reason why NOT to buy a better model if it's the same price. Right now the 750 is $3 cheaper than the 650 on Amazon for some reason.

Mr. Eric Praline
Aug 13, 2004
I didn't like the others, they were all too flat.

Bonk posted:

I actually got the chance last night to compare the matte vs. glossy screens between the 630 and 650, and I have to say the 650 does look a little brighter.

Theoretically (according to the avsforum guys), the higher-end TVs have glossy screens because they pass light more clearly. The matte effect diffuses some of the output, which leads to a slight softening and/or darkening of the image.

It seems confirmed between the samsungs, but they say that the real effect is just dependent on how the specific company manufactures each type.

Bouchacha
Feb 7, 2006

So I'm ordering a Sony Bravia 46" from Costco since it's Costco (2 year warranty, 90 days return policy, etc) and Cnet gave it a good review. I'm getting this Tilt/Swivel wall mount from monoprice. And since this TV is only going to be hooked up to my PC, I need to order a DVI>HDMI cable, but can't tell all these options apart.

What exactly is the AWG number for? And am I missing anything else in this setup?

edit: yikes, the sony bravia I was eyeing got taken down :(

Bouchacha fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Jan 16, 2009

Bouchacha
Feb 7, 2006

Dogen posted:

I have an LN52A650 and it's great for gaming. I just finished GTA4 for the third time because it just looks so drat smooth on the TV.

I was considering this but when I saw it in person, I was able to clearly see my reflection on the screen which got me worried about glare issues.

DanAdamKOF
Feb 11, 2007

AWG is wire gauge. The thicker the less signal loss, ideally. However for a digital signal it's not a big deal, since if there's enough interference to disrupt the signal, your TV simply won't accept it, rather than displaying a bad image.


Back to myself for a moment, I am still looking for a ~37-42" LCD TV in the ~650-700 range, preferably available in stores so it can be checked out easily. This is for my mom to watch in the living room so as long as there aren't any glaring or annoying defects, and doesn't look noticeably bad, it should fit the bill.

DanAdamKOF fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Jan 16, 2009

iluvpr0n
Oct 21, 2000

JayJay posted:

Does anyone have experience with the 40 inch LN40A650. I have a Samsung TOC 22 inch monitor and I love it, so I figure I can't go wrong on the tv. It is a bit over my 1000 price range, at 1250 shipped. But it seems like it has all the features that should last me for years to come. Its going to be a bedroom tv, primarilly for gaming, so I have full control of the lighting in the room and high gloss shouldn't be too bad.

My friend has the 40" a650 and it looks great. I just got the 46" version earlier this week and I'm very happy with it so far. I've used it during the day with a fairly large window to the side and don't have any complaints about the glare. It's definitely preferable to my old 27" CRT tv in that regard.

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.

The glossy screen is only bad if there's a bright light source that you can directly see in the screen itself, or something that gets lit up by a bright light source. Like my daughter's bedroom is straight in line with my tv so if the sun is shining in her window it glares bad, so I have to close her door. And I had to shut off my christmas tree while watching.

John Jhonson
Sep 20, 2008

How similar to the 650 is the Samsung LN40A530? My main concern is with the inputs. I was looking at an LG and it seemed to come with more. I am running very basic devices, and I worry that the tv is basically too good to support them. Is there even a place to plug in coaxial cable (I assume that's the "ant. in" input)? I don't have surround sound or a receiver. I just want to plug in the cable box and a DVD player using S cable and regular a/v for sound.

Overall, is it a good tv and is it fitting for my pathetically low end needs?

unknown poster
Aug 4, 2007
The only place around here that has the Panasonic Viera TH-42PZ85U is Frys.....Is there a reason not to buy it from Frys? My friend is like...dont buy it from frys cuz they suck.

froobly
Sep 12, 2003

Flobbster posted:

Welp, my Panasonic Viera 37LZ800 finally arrived yesterday, and all I can say is god drat. I got an amazing deal on it too -- they had a deal on it right around the New Year, so I snagged it for $879 instead of the $1099 they have listed right now.

I basically have the same exact story. Same price and everything. I went and did the THX calibration on it, and it looks great.

One thing I have noticed, though, is that hardly any of my XBox 360 games do HD very well. I've tried Forza 2 and Prince of Persia, in both 720p and 1080p modes, and I'm noticing tons of jaggies. I'll try a few more, but I'm starting to think that this generation of game hardware, despite supposedly being all about HD, really isn't that good at it. And since I don't have a Blu-Ray player, the Xbox is my only source of HD content, so I'm a little disappointed.

I shouldn't whine too much, though, because it still looks way better than my 27" Trinitron ever did, and the upscaled DVDs look awesome, even if they're a little blurry.

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride

John Jhonson posted:

How similar to the 650 is the Samsung LN40A530? My main concern is with the inputs. I was looking at an LG and it seemed to come with more. I am running very basic devices, and I worry that the tv is basically too good to support them. Is there even a place to plug in coaxial cable (I assume that's the "ant. in" input)? I don't have surround sound or a receiver. I just want to plug in the cable box and a DVD player using S cable and regular a/v for sound.

Overall, is it a good tv and is it fitting for my pathetically low end needs?

Why do you even want to spend that money on an HDTV if those are your sources? It has the inputs you need, but with those kinds of sources the HDTV is just going to show you how crappy your sources are. Hell, if your DVD player was made anytime recently it's probably progressive scan and you could at least hook it up with component cables.

froobly posted:

One thing I have noticed, though, is that hardly any of my XBox 360 games do HD very well. I've tried Forza 2 and Prince of Persia, in both 720p and 1080p modes, and I'm noticing tons of jaggies. I'll try a few more, but I'm starting to think that this generation of game hardware, despite supposedly being all about HD, really isn't that good at it. And since I don't have a Blu-Ray player, the Xbox is my only source of HD content, so I'm a little disappointed.

How close are you sitting to the screen?

John Jhonson
Sep 20, 2008

Dogen posted:

Why do you even want to spend that money on an HDTV if those are your sources? It has the inputs you need, but with those kinds of sources the HDTV is just going to show you how crappy your sources are. Hell, if your DVD player was made anytime recently it's probably progressive scan and you could at least hook it up with component cables.

I figure I will upgrade my digital cable service to HD, and at the very least my 360 will be connected through HDMI. You're right, though, I need to update some of my other connections to component.

As for the tv itself, does anyone have any experience? (Samsung LN40A530)

John Jhonson fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Jan 18, 2009

Donkey Kunt
Mar 18, 2006

I'm a cat.
When is it expected that the 2009 Vizio line will be released?

Donkey Kunt
Mar 18, 2006

I'm a cat.

John Jhonson posted:

As for the tv itself, does anyone have any experience? (Samsung LN40A530)

That was probably my favorite HDTV of 2008 when it came to pricing and features and when compared against equivalent HDTVs from other manufacturers.

unknown poster
Aug 4, 2007
Im pretty set on going plasma...cuz it seems like its the best bang for the buck tech. Have I missed something or do all 42 inch LCDs in the $1000 price range have that plasticky look to them? Is there any reason I should consider LCD over plasma in this size and price range? Burn in issues aside. Im kinda confused as why people get LCDs over plasma as I havent seen a reason to.

And for a blu ray player....what standalone player is just as good as the ps3? Id rather not pay so much for something Ill probably never game on.

unknown poster fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Jan 18, 2009

postwar stubble
Jul 20, 2001

I have this Philips Cineos 42" plasma, and apparently the resolution is 1024*1080. It's connected to my HTPC by HDMI, and looks great at 1280*720p. However, I'm wondering if I should set it to something else that might better suit its wacky native resolution?

PlayStationGayStation
Jan 23, 2004

^________^

DanAdamKOF posted:

AWG is wire gauge. The thicker the less signal loss, ideally. However for a digital signal it's not a big deal, since if there's enough interference to disrupt the signal, your TV simply won't accept it, rather than displaying a bad image.
Well, I don't know about all situations, but I bought some cheap HDMI cables once and they had handshaking issues with my PS3. The screen would flicker to static for a split second every few seconds. I got a better cable and the handshaking issues went away.

froobly
Sep 12, 2003

Dogen posted:

How close are you sitting to the screen?

About 8 feet away.

Christobevii3
Jul 3, 2006

Donkey Kunt posted:

When is it expected that the 2009 Vizio line will be released?

Engadget says fall 2009 for the netflix tv.

Bob Mundon
Dec 1, 2003
Your Friendly Neighborhood Gun Nut
Gonna get an HDTV this week, have a 250 Wal Mart gift card and was looking for a 46" TV, which one of these would you guys go for? I'll mainly play 360 and watch movies on it, and the room will probably be a little bright in the daytime, not sure if that would effect anyones opinion on it.

Can't remember all the model numbers, but all were 46" 1080p LCD.

There was a Vizio, I think this one: http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=8586330

Also a Sharp 46", I remember it had like 7000:1 contrast vs the 2000:1 on the Vizio (probably doesnt mean anything, just remember it).

And one of these two, was about $100 bucks more than everything else, is it worth it for either? Not sure which it was.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10176514
or
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10376354


Wish I knew the model numbers, but I guess it's basically a brand question, since all were same size and all 1080p. Im thiking Philips > Sharp > Vizio, is this about right?. Sharp and Vizio were same price, Philips 100 bucks more.

Promoted Pawn
Jun 8, 2005

oops


OK, so I've been waiting to buy the Vizio 32" plasma (vp322) for months now, and now that we have the money and my wife is finally ready to jump onto the HDTV bandwagon, I can't find the drat thing anywhere! I've done amazon searches (Vizio 32" LCD Tv Tv Tuner, thanks amazon), the Walmart website says they don't exist, and the Vizio website tells me to go to Walmart. I really had my heart set on that set for the combination of picture quality and being dirt cheap. Have they just fallen off the face of the earth? If so, what other good gaming hdtv is there in the $600 or less price range? I don't care so much about size since it's a small room, but things like good response time and lack of motion blur are very important.

Regnevelc
Jan 12, 2003

I'M A GROWN ASS MAN!

Bonk posted:

I actually got the chance last night to compare the matte vs. glossy screens between the 630 and 650, and I have to say the 650 does look a little brighter.


I went with the 630 because I hate glossy screens. I have no complaints with the brightness of the 630 though.

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride

froobly posted:

About 8 feet away.

I played PoP on the PS3 and I thought it looked great on my LN52A650. I haven't played much Forza since I picked up the new set, though. You're certainly sitting far enough away, at any rate.

Bonk
Aug 4, 2002

Douche Baggins
http://www.woot.com/

Woot's got a recertified 47" 1080p 120Hz Philips LCD for $900, today only. I might go for it, I wanted a Samsung but I don't know if I can beat that price.

Can anyone tell me more about this model, especially how it compares to Samsung models? I'll have to decide by the end of the day.

avidal
May 19, 2006
bawl-some
So, a coworker of mine is moving in a couple of weeks and is trying to sell off everything he owns, mostly. He offered to sell me his TV, which is a 37" Samsung, model number LN-37A550P3F. He said he bought it at Best Buy for $800 about 6 months ago after someone else returned it. It was normally priced at $900, and he wants to sell it to me for $600.

I'm tempted, but the problem is that the only information I can find on the TV seems to be a different model. His only has 2 HDMI ports, and he's not sure if it's 1080p or 1080i. All of the info I can find on this model number says the new model has 3 HDMI ports.

It's listed on Amazon here: link

I don't have that much money to spend on a TV, but this is tempting. Can anyone tell me if it's a good deal or not? Is this just the 2007 model with 15,000:1 contrast and 2 HDMI inputs?

Christobevii3
Jul 3, 2006
If its 720p thats not that great of a deal. Best buy this week has the LG 37" for $700 new.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light
Any opinions on this:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10376355

I'm looking to spend no more than $800. I don't play games, just watch TV and DVDs (not Blu-Ray - yet).

I currently have a Philips 27" flat screen CRT TV and I sit about 8 feet away.

Bone Machine
Sep 28, 2005

kid, Don't matter what you did. Walk on your tip toes, Don't try "No Doz", Better stay away from those That carry around a fire hose. Keep a
I just recently got a 32" LG 720p, and my antenna arrived from Monoprice today. Are there any tricks to getting better reception from an indoor antenna besides the standard "put it near a window"? I was pretty disappointed at the results, since my SD cable looks better on the tv than anything being pulled down over the air.

Would longer cabling hurt my reception? If I got like a 25 ft cable I could position the antenna right in front of the window. It's about ten feet away from the window with the short cables I have now, and all of the channels are either full of static or blurred and look like double vision.

unknown poster
Aug 4, 2007
How do I calibrate my new TV? Its a Panasonic TH42PZ85U. Just got it home, waiting to pick up a blu ray player before I set it up.

Syfe
Jun 12, 2006


unknown poster posted:

How do I calibrate my new TV? Its a Panasonic TH42PZ85U. Just got it home, waiting to pick up a blu ray player before I set it up.

As far as I know most TV's need to be calibrated specifically to that TV. There are no absolute settings that will work for you. I have just gone through this mess with my TV, it took many different Calibration settings for me to find one that worked pretty well/okay for me. Most of the time though, I found that existing settings from other TV owners often looked wrong or muddy on my TV.

This is why getting it professionally calibrated can cost $400+. The other option is to buy the equipment and learn how to use the software yourself.

CNET has calibration settings for a few TVs out there, their settings seemed to work the best on my TV, can't say if it'll work for you.

unknown poster
Aug 4, 2007

Syfe posted:

As far as I know most TV's need to be calibrated specifically to that TV. There are no absolute settings that will work for you. I have just gone through this mess with my TV, it took many different Calibration settings for me to find one that worked pretty well/okay for me. Most of the time though, I found that existing settings from other TV owners often looked wrong or muddy on my TV.

This is why getting it professionally calibrated can cost $400+. The other option is to buy the equipment and learn how to use the software yourself.

CNET has calibration settings for a few TVs out there, their settings seemed to work the best on my TV, can't say if it'll work for you.

Do I have to calibrate it? Or will the out of the box picture be suitable? I dont really care if its 'just right'.

fahrvergnugen
Nov 27, 2003

Intergalactic proton-powered electrical tentacled REFRIGERATOR OF DOOM.

unknown poster posted:

Do I have to calibrate it? Or will the out of the box picture be suitable? I dont really care if its 'just right'.

Pick up the Digital Video Essentials: HD Basics blu-ray and run it through, it won't be as good as a $400 pro calibration but it'll be Good Enough. Keep the disk & re-calibrate every time you move the TV, significantly change the lighting in your viewing environment, paint the room, or something similar. If all else fails recalibrate every year or so to make sure that as the set ages, your settings stay correct.

If you have a surround-sound system, audio re-calibration should take place anytime you move the furniture.

iloverice
Feb 19, 2007

future tv ninja

iloverice posted:

I ended up buying the LN46A650, instead of the 850, to save some money. I am glad I did. I love the TV so far, but I've noticed one thing and it is driving me insane: I seem to have a "second" image on the screen. For example on my PS3's XMB if I look at the word Games, I see Games(s) where the s in the parenthesis is much fainter but still visible. I didn't notice at first but now that I've seen it I can't stop seeing it. I've tried my PS3, DVD player and Wii and they all do it. The weird part is that the TV menus do not do it.

I've tried googling for a solution, but I don't even know what to call it. I did find one forum that had the problem, but I didn't see any solutions posted. They throw around some terms that don't mean what they are describing (false contouring seems like it would be it, but after looking up what it actually is I have determined that it is not my problem). Here is a picture that they posted that exactly describes what I see:

Click here for the full 648x486 image.


I'd really appreciate any help.


Just an update, for those who are interested. I finally got my HDMI cable in the mail and that got rid of the problem for my PS3 (was using component, LloydDobler was spot on). Great in some ways but it added some more confusion as to what was wrong. I also got a new component cable for my DVD player (was using composite). While the picture is slightly sharper, it simply accentuates the problem even more. I'm convinced now that its not a panel issue and now it has something to do with how my TV handles composite/component inputs. The tech will be out here on Thursday. I hope they can fix it because its driving me insane on such a large screen. Now that I have seen it I can't unsee it. :(

Vermouth
Sep 16, 2004
thanks to many of the posts in this thread and a bit of research, i've decided that the samsung LN40A650 is most likely the best fit for what i'm looking for.

amazon looks to have more or less the best price that i could find at $1264.99 (free shipping, no tax). given that, i have two questions:

1) is this an inflated price at all, considering the superbowl is a couple weeks away? will the prices on lcd's be going down in the coming weeks, or should i buy now?

2) amazon also has the LN40A550 for $879.98 shipped. that's a fairly substantial price difference for slightly lower contrast ratio and response time, the lack of 120Hz processing, and one less HDMI port. i certainly would like to have those features, but do you all think that the price difference justifies it?

thanks!

BRAKE FOR MOOSE
Jun 6, 2001

Some Disney DVDs have a calibration tool, and it works great if you're not particularly anal about it. Handles all the important stuff, it just doesn't really do color balance. I use my copy of Ratatouille to set up everything.

BitcoinRockefeller
May 11, 2003

God gave me my money.

Hair Elf
I was getting ready to buy a TH-50PZ800u, but now I see everyone is blowing out the Pioneer PDP-5020F, with prices down to just below 2000 in some places. I might have to go with that if its the same price as a panasonic.

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coolskillrex remix
Jan 1, 2007

gorsh

NinjaCthulhu posted:

I was getting ready to buy a TH-50PZ800u, but now I see everyone is blowing out the Pioneer PDP-5020F, with prices down to just below 2000 in some places. I might have to go with that if its the same price as a panasonic.

what?? i wouldnt call them blow outs... BB is having a sale on 5020, and its only below $2000 if you get the 10% off, which is not a sure thing. but i agree the pioneer is way too close in price for the pz800u to be worth it anymore... its just too fuckin good not to spend the extra cash on it.

edit: on amazon with white glove its also $2200 no tax. So i guess thats same as BB

coolskillrex remix fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Jan 21, 2009

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