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Mykh posted:Vizio VF551XVT Yay! The VF552XVT is coming out soon and they're lowering prices to move these. Slickdeals.net users are seeing them at Costco and Sams for under 1600 bucks which is a great deal for the 55" LCD LED panel. The 552 model has the Vizio Internet Apps (VIA) and ethernet and 802.11N networking with a cool remote. Other than that it's the same panel, LED dimming backlight, etc. If you don't care about these things jump on it. I plan on getting a Boxee so I could care less. Personally I just bought the VF550 for 1249 from Dell today. It's only 120HZ, and has a normal backlight, but I think the panel is the same or similar in quality. My 42" Vizio has been awesome for 2 1/2 years and I expect nothing less from the bigger one.
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Jan 28, 2010 02:42
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I'm having a problem with some blu-rays that should be 1.85:1 content showing up as 1.78:1 on my TV. I'm running them through a PS3, but changing video options there hasn't done anything to get the video showing at the right aspect ratio. I was told that my TV might have overscan on, but I can't find anything like this in the setup menu either. My TV is a Sony Bravia KDL-32L4000 (native res is 1366x768) Is there some setting that I can change so that these movies show up with their true aspect ratio?
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Jan 28, 2010 15:44
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Hey guys. So I'm wanting to get a new HDTV in time for the Superbowl. Been going over a few options. All the TVs I'm going over are by Samsung. I've have a Samsung now (slim fit tube) and haven't had an issue. And Best Buy is where I saw these. 1. I'm looking at a 50" Plasma for $999: Samsung - 50" Class / 1080p / 600Hz / Plasma HDTV Model: PN50B550T2F I'm sold with everything on this one, except the risk of burn in. Not sure if it's as great a risk as I remember with old plasmas. I play games, watch movies, and TV moderately. I'm not a couch potato at all. And I don't leave my TV paused all day, so should I need to worry about burn in? This, so far, is the best bang for my buck. 2. Samsung - 52" Class / 1080p / 240Hz / LCD HDTV Model: LN52B750U1F LCDs I don't have a problem with. My old roommate had this one and it was a beauty. Only problem right now is the price at about $1929. 3. Samsung - 46" Class / 1080p / 120Hz / LED-LCD HDTV Model: UN46B6000VF This one looked nice in person. But it's a first generation, and not sure about longevity of these. Price is almost an inbetween of the other two, yet somewhat smaller in size. $1600. Any thoughts to help me decide? I know in the end, it's up to me. Just want to know if I should really worry about burn in that much with the plasma. And there is like a 200 hour "break in" period for plasmas, right? Thanks guys.
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Jan 28, 2010 16:26
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Caddrel posted:I'm having a problem with some blu-rays that should be 1.85:1 content showing up as 1.78:1 on my TV. I'm running them through a PS3, but changing video options there hasn't done anything to get the video showing at the right aspect ratio. I was told that my TV might have overscan on, but I can't find anything like this in the setup menu either. What is your PS3 configured to output in it's video settings? By that, I mean the screen where you check 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, and 1080p. Make sure you have 1080i or 1080p (preferably 1080p if using HDMI) checked or else you're not getting a high definition picture. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Jan 28, 2010 |
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Jan 28, 2010 16:33
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hopper2k posted:Hey guys. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung...0b850&cp=1&lp=1 Get the samsung b850/860 if you're torn between the pn550 ln6000. Its just as thin, bigger screen, and better picture. Uses very little power for a plasma. You might have to go to a bestbuy magnolia store, or an hhgregg to buy one in store however That being said, the pn550 is an amazing tv for the money and you would be very happy with it. quaker69 fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Jan 28, 2010 |
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Jan 28, 2010 16:33
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Craptacular! posted:What is your PS3 configured to output in it's video settings? I have everything checked including 1080p so I'm definitely getting a high def picture (I'm also connected via HDMI which I forgot to mention above). I've also tried limiting it to 1080i, and to 720p, which doesn't affect the aspect ratio at all.
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Jan 28, 2010 16:42
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Caddrel posted:I have everything checked including 1080p so I'm definitely getting a high def picture (I'm also connected via HDMI which I forgot to mention above). I've also tried limiting it to 1080i, and to 720p, which doesn't affect the aspect ratio at all. I'd check 480 just to make sure that you don't have a problem with the PS3, although unless Sony changed things if you have the PS3 set to 720p with neither 1080i or 1080p checked, you're getting the 480p film. Basically, the PS3 has some little-known issues with scaling in it's early days that were never solved and only hotly debated by the select few who paid $500-$600 for the original models, but if it's sending a 1080p picture then all scaling must be done by your TV. I know that I was having similar overscan problems with my HTPC on my new 1080p Bravia, that was solved by going into the settings -> Display -> Screen -> and changing Display Type from Normal (which is overscanned slightly) to Full Pixel (which is exactly pixel for pixel, for better or for worse.) However, this mode is only available to me when watching 1080p content (a 720p channel over the TV tuner, for instance, makes it disappear) so you may have something similar on your TV, I don't really know.
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Jan 28, 2010 17:16
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Craptacular! posted:I'd check 480 just to make sure that you don't have a problem with the PS3, although unless Sony changed things if you have the PS3 set to 720p with neither 1080i or 1080p checked, you're getting the 480p film. That's odd, I have a slim PS3 so it's almost certainly the TV. I don't seem to have any of screen display options that you do though, and there isn't even anything about Full Pixel in the manual.
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Jan 28, 2010 17:43
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Caddrel posted:I was told that my TV might have overscan on, but I can't find anything like this in the setup menu either. "Wide Zoom" "Normal" and "Full" all overscan. "Off" should be equivalent to Full Pixel. "Normal" is useful for TV channels, because it overscans just a little bit to remove random garbage from the edges of some channels. Fishmasher fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Jan 28, 2010 |
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Jan 28, 2010 19:22
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Fishmasher posted:For that TV there should be a Picture submenu with zoom options to control overscan, and a Wide button on the remote. Unfortunately Wide Zoom and Full are the only options. In addition the manual says that Normal mode isn't available for a source at 720p and up. I'm guess that the Bravias which are 1080p and 1080i have these options, but that they left them off my 768p set.
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Jan 28, 2010 20:39
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Fishmasher posted:I would pay it, the G10 should be a little better in almost every way. Especially if the Samsung isn't calibrated by somebody who really knows how to. The easy THX mode should be really helpful for people who don't calibrate well. I'm waiting on the 2010 models, the S2 TVs are almost out and not that expensive, they're rumored to be on sale by Feb 5th and have the black level issue removed. Mouse on Serotonin fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Jan 29, 2010 |
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Jan 29, 2010 17:33
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I hadn't heard much about that so I just looked at the avsforum thread. They're saying this is a problem with all Panasonic plasmas from generation 11 through 12? Wow. That's a lot of sold televisions. Some say it's terrible, and others that you can't really notice unless the room is totally dark. I guess a bunch of people called Panasonic and are hoping for a firmware fix. Personally I know that the G10 is awesome out of the box, but can't comment on the black levels rising over time. But here's the giant thread for anyone who's interested. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1167339 Fishmasher fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Jan 29, 2010 |
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Jan 29, 2010 20:03
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On the subject of Panasonic G10's, I'm planning on buying a 50'' HDTV around April/May. I've been scouting out plasma screens for the past month or so now (originally I was looking at LCD's, but the plasmas make more sense for the price and PQ difference), and I narrowed my selections down to two: Panasonic TC-P50G10 Samsung PN50B650 I went to Best Buy and looked at a side by side comparison of the two (well, the Samsung at Best Buy was an 850, but apparently the 650 is supposed to have the same PQ, only a thicker frame and slightly better black levels) and they both have fantastic picture, but one thing that irked me a bit about the Panasonic was that it seemed to have this noticeable green/yellow hue to it. I'm not positive if it was mostly the demo footage, or if the TV wasn't set up right, but it felt kind of like watching a more subdued Matrix or parts of A Serious Man- from the CNET review, it seems like the color thing is more intentional than not, and I'm wondering if this is what people dig about the G10- people go ape-poo poo for the set, but to me, the Samsung seemed more in-line with producing more accurate color, although the PQ on the Panasonic did seem to have a slight edge over the Samsung. Essentially, I'm just trying to decide between the two- the Samsung is supposed to have better picture setup options, and the Panasonic has the THX mode which I'm not sure is supposed to be more accurate or not in terms of color. Panasonic gets the nod over Samsung in most cases I've heard, but if the color on the Panasonic is true to what I saw in store, I'd probably lean towards the Samsung. Does anybody have any input?
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Jan 29, 2010 23:06
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Bobby The Rookie posted:On the subject of Panasonic G10's, I'm planning on buying a 50'' HDTV around April/May. I've been scouting out plasma screens for the past month or so now (originally I was looking at LCD's, but the plasmas make more sense for the price and PQ difference), and I narrowed my selections down to two: Store settings are notoriously unreliable. You might compare them side-by-side at multiple stores before makin a decision.
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Jan 29, 2010 23:20
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fahrvergnugen posted:Store settings are notoriously unreliable. You might compare them side-by-side at multiple stores before makin a decision.
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Jan 29, 2010 23:32
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Well, I'm in the process of swapping my Sony Bravia KDL-40W5100 LCD for a Panasonic TC-P42G10 plasma. I originally wanted the plasma, but was worried about possible glare issues in my living room. The Bravia is an excellent set with a fantastic menu system and better than expected Internet content. It also has a fantastic picture with deep blacks and vivid colors... ...viewed dead on or 25 degrees left or right. After that, colors start to wash out and blacks turn bluish. It's not something you notice just moving off-center in one viewing session, but even if you sit down and start watching the next day. I just can't get past it. Glare turned out to be less of an issue than I thought. Even the Sony has a somewhat shinier than normal (for an LCD) screen and I don't notice it. Ordered the 42" G10 from 6th Ave for $750.12 shipped ($200 less than I paid for the Bravia, after tax). I know all about the "black doubling" issue but the people taking measurements in that thread are showing "doubled" numbers that are still less than the numbers for the Bravia, so whatever. Panasonic will probably come out with an update for it before I hit the 200 or 1000 or whatever hour mark anyway. And if it's a problem, I have the warranty to fall back on. I've always thought plasma looked better and should have stuck with my guns from the start. At least Best Buy doesn't have any restocking, so returning the Sony won't be an issue. Plus, by figuring this out for a week, the deal on the Panasonic got even better. Can't wait until it gets here!
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Jan 30, 2010 00:33
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Do I want this: Vizio 47" XVT472SV Or this? Vizio 55" VF551XVT Or neither? The 55" was mentioned at the top of the page as being quite good. I sit about 6 feet away, so the 47" is probably better, but I'd like some room to grow if I move, get a bigger room, etc.
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Jan 30, 2010 14:21
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if you can afford it, then go for bigger.
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Jan 30, 2010 15:11
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Don Lapre posted:if you can afford it, then go for bigger. I don't know, I've got a 55" and I can't imagine sitting 6 feet away from it, it's too close for me.
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Jan 30, 2010 16:13
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skipdogg posted:I don't know, I've got a 55" and I can't imagine sitting 6 feet away from it, it's too close for me. I think i'm gonna get the 55 for room to grow. I don't plan on renting a room in a house my whole life.
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Jan 30, 2010 17:07
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My old CRT TV is starting to get wavy and it looks like its going to die... so I'm looking at picking up a Panasonic 42" 1080p Plasma HDTV (TCP42U1). I've got a soft budget of $1000. I live in a dark basement, and I won't be upgrading my cable box for HD, but I play a lot of Xbox 360 and stream video from my PC. It would end up being 6ft from where we sit, so if I read the viewing angle chart right, it is just under the optimal size. Is there a better model to purchase in my price / requirements range? Everything I have googled about this model says it is pretty solid.
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Jan 30, 2010 17:08
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atastypie posted:My old CRT TV is starting to get wavy and it looks like its going to die... so I'm looking at picking up a Panasonic 42" 1080p Plasma HDTV (TCP42U1). I've got a soft budget of $1000. I live in a dark basement, and I won't be upgrading my cable box for HD, but I play a lot of Xbox 360 and stream video from my PC. It would end up being 6ft from where we sit, so if I read the viewing angle chart right, it is just under the optimal size. Might I recommend the 47" Vizio a few posts up I was agonizing over?
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Jan 30, 2010 17:16
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I'm considering a Samsung UN40B6000VFXZA, but I've read that this is a side lit LED TV, and you notice uneven backlighting in the dark. If that's true, could someone recommend another TV in the 1000-1500 range? I'd like to stay between 40" and 46" due to sitting 6 feet from the TV. I'll be doing a lot of streaming from my PC, and occasionally using it as a second monitor for games, so 1080 is pretty much a requirement.
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Jan 30, 2010 18:28
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Honestly when I had my 46 inch 6000 I didn't really notice the uneven lighting until I read about it on different forums. And even then it wasn't "uneven" enough to soil my viewing experience with the tv.
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Jan 30, 2010 20:26
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The pictures you see on AVS where everything's super cloudy are like 15-second exposures taken in pitch-black rooms.
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Jan 30, 2010 21:08
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Brock Landers posted:...viewed dead on or 25 degrees left or right. After that, colors start to wash out and blacks turn bluish. It's not something you notice just moving off-center in one viewing session, but even if you sit down and start watching the next day. I just can't get past it. Glare turned out to be less of an issue than I thought. Even the Sony has a somewhat shinier than normal (for an LCD) screen and I don't notice it. The Bravia's screen is a bit of a shiny matte finish, compared to the total reflective gloss of Samsung. I'd have found an LCD with a better viewing angle, but good luck with your new set anyway. I never considered a plasma period when shopping because it's the extreme high end of both heat and electrical use, and I'm in the desert where electricity bills can be over $300 a month thanks to the air conditioner, so a plasma was not really ideal.
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Jan 30, 2010 22:44
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Loztblaz posted:I'm considering a Samsung UN40B6000VFXZA, but I've read that this is a side lit LED TV, and you notice uneven backlighting in the dark. It's not an issue really, assuming you get a good panel. The picture these sets produce is really nice.
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Jan 31, 2010 17:16
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What do you guys think of this 42" 1080p Magnavox on sale at Target? The reviews there are all really positive but apparently it was panned by Consumer Reports. It's for my sister and she only wants to spend $5-600, so I doubt little stat differences will matter too much. She'll basically just watch TV and DVDs on it. No PC monitor use or anything. Other than some "poor" specs it seems like a really good deal for a 42" 1080p. http://www.target.com/Magnavox-42-1080p-LCD-TV/dp/B001THHVPA/ edit: Would something like this be worth the extra $120 for a general use TV? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/LG+-+42%22+Class+/+1080p+/+60Hz+/+LCD+HDTV/9246808.p?id=1218067379444&skuId=9246808 Laopooh fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Jan 31, 2010 |
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Jan 31, 2010 21:02
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Laopooh posted:What do you guys think of this 42" 1080p Magnavox on sale at Target? The reviews there are all really positive but apparently it was panned by Consumer Reports. It's for my sister and she only wants to spend $5-600, so I doubt little stat differences will matter too much. She'll basically just watch TV and DVDs on it. No PC monitor use or anything. Other than some "poor" specs it seems like a really good deal for a 42" 1080p. Just because something reviews poorly doesn't mean you won't like it. Some people loved Transformers 2, bless their ignorant wretched hearts. We're unlikely to disagree with Consumer Reports, but you don't need our permission to buy the thing.
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Jan 31, 2010 21:28
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fahrvergnugen posted:Just because something reviews poorly doesn't mean you won't like it. Some people loved Transformers 2, bless their ignorant wretched hearts. We're unlikely to disagree with Consumer Reports, but you don't need our permission to buy the thing. Generally agree. There's not many sets out there that don't look great. The thing is...some sets are better than others, so that's what professional reviews are good for.
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Jan 31, 2010 21:57
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Getting a TV from my parents for graduation (only took 5 years) so I'm trying to decide which to ask for. I definitely need an LCD as the room it'll be in has 2 full walls of windows facing a lot of sun. I'm thinking 40"-42" and they want something probably $800 or under. These are the ones I'm considering. Panasonic Viera 42" 1080 60hz: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasonic+-+VIERA+/+42%22+Class+/+1080p+/+60Hz+/+LCD+HDTV/9239228.p?id=1218065493446&skuId=9239228 Sony Bravia 40" 1080 60hz S-series: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+BRAVIA+/+40%22+Class+/+1080p+/+60Hz+/+LCD+HDTV/9222496.p?id=1218062117241&skuId=9222496 Samsung LN40B550: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+40%22+Class+/+1080p+/+60Hz+/+LCD+HDTV/9230717.p?id=1218063831302&skuId=9230717 Philips 42" 1080 120hz: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Philips+-+42%22+Class+/+1080p+/+120Hz+/+LCD+HDTV/9578664.p?id=1218129863461&skuId=9578664 Samsung LN40B630: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+40%22+Class+/+1080p+/+120Hz+/+LCD+HDTV/9300437.p?id=1218079755374&skuId=9300437 Vizio SV421XVT 42" 1080 240hz: http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11485330&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|79&N=4041016&Mo=30&No=2&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=74672&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&topnav= Sorry about the amount of links, just want some feedback. Would be used for watching sports (hockey), DVDs and Blu Rays, PS3, and maybe for my computer. BarryMantlesnorks fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Feb 1, 2010 |
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Jan 31, 2010 23:08
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fahrvergnugen posted:Just because something reviews poorly doesn't mean you won't like it. Some people loved Transformers 2, bless their ignorant wretched hearts. We're unlikely to disagree with Consumer Reports, but you don't need our permission to buy the thing. Haha, I know. I haven't bought a TV for like 10 years so I just wanted to make sure there wasn't something big that I was overlooking. I like to sperg out on specs but I'm sure she'll be happy with most anything out now, especially compared to her old TV.
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Jan 31, 2010 23:44
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BarryMantlesnorks posted:Getting a TV from my parents for graduation (only took 5 years) so I'm trying to decide which to ask for. I definitely need an LCD as the room it'll be in has 2 full walls of windows facing a lot of sun. I'm thinking 40"-42" and they want something probably $800 or under. These are the ones I'm considering. A room with windows facing a lot of sun pretty much rules out the Viera and any other plasma. I bought a Sony KDL-40W5100 and it's a fantastic set, but the viewing angle isn't great. You can sit 3 across on a couch and have a great picture, but after that, it starts to wash out just a bit. Sony's in generally seem to have this problem. If that's an issue for you, avoid them. The some of the Samsung models share panels with the Sonys, so those might have the same viewing angle issues. My in-laws have an LG LH40 42" set and the viewing angle is great along with the picture. Check that one out too. Edit: Whoops.... just noticed that the Viera you posted was an LCD. Ignore my comments about plasma.
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Feb 1, 2010 02:17
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Looking at the Vizio VL260M 26" 1080p. $350 on Amazon. Thoughts? It seems like it's pretty new so there aren't many reviews and most of the ones I've found are relativly positive.
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Feb 1, 2010 15:31
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The picture quality seems good, people like that it's an LG S-IPS panel. It's not a great price. Many people don't like the sound, the stand, or the remote. It'd be nice to have the option to easily return it, because one than more person complains of humming.
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Feb 1, 2010 17:40
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Thinking about getting this for my bedroom: http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIERA-TC-L26X1-26-Inch-720p/dp/B001UE6MA2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1265046314&sr=8-1 Is that as good of a deal as I think it is or am I missing something?
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ironlung posted:Thinking about getting this for my bedroom: Just remember that due to the difference in aspect ratios a 26 inch HDTV is roughly equivalent to a 21 inch old style 4:3 TV when it comes to the sizes of objects on the screen (widescreen movies will be much larger, but television still centers faces and objects in box in the center of the screen leading to faces and objects on screen being about the same size as they would be on an old 21 TV). I spent the extra $150 to get the higher end TC-L32S1, which is a 32 inch model (equivalent to a 27 inch CRT), full 1080p, has a significantly better contrast rating from Panasonic (you can't compare contrast ratings between brands, but you can within a brand). The TC-L32S1 also works VERY well as a computer monitor, with less than a single frame of input lag, excellent viewing angles, and 1:1 pixel mapping at 1920x1080 using a DVI-HDMI cable. In fact my general purpose recommendation for most people now is to just pick a Panasonic TV of the size and features they want, LCD for bright rooms and plasma for dark rooms. Sony and Samsung have better blacks in their LCDs, but Panasonic LCDs are superior in most other ways. If you really care about blacks you should be getting a plasma anyway and hey Panasonic makes the best of those as well. LG TVs sometimes use IPS panels, but it's a panel lottery with them so you can never be sure you will have the great color and viewing angles. The rising black level issue with Panasonic's plasmas is certainly worrying, but I still think they own most of the HDTV market in terms of price/quality ratios. orborborb fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Feb 2, 2010 |
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Feb 2, 2010 01:36
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Is there a table that shows the differences between all the TV series, then just lists what sizes are available for each one? I get so confused looking at the 48 plasma panasonic tvs between 42 and 49 inches on amazon, I don't know wtf the differences are.
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modig posted:Is there a table that shows the differences between all the TV series, then just lists what sizes are available for each one? I get so confused looking at the 48 plasma panasonic tvs between 42 and 49 inches on amazon, I don't know wtf the differences are. well here's the 2009 lineup explained, not in a handy chart form unfortunately: http://hdguru.com/ces-2009-panasonics-new-plasma-and-lcd-model-series/354/ The S1 series plasmas are at a good price/performance point, with high contrast 1080p panels but without fancy high end features. If you want better color correction control and a THX calibrated mode you go for the more expensive G or V series. If money is no object you have the Z1. All these are being replaced by 2010 models shortly, which are incremental upgrades in most respects, except for the 3D features on the high end models. It is a little confusing that Panasonic uses the same Viera branding and S/V/U/X/etc monikers for their LCDs as well, so be careful with that.
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