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Brock Landers
Jul 28, 2004

You're a donkey. I like that.

Soul Glo posted:

Skimmed OP, checked the FAQ:

Should I just use a wet washcloth to clean my tv's LCD screen? Eyeglass cleaner? Alcohol? Thanks.

I found water and any chemicals just made things worse when removing smudges. I just used the microfiber towel included with my TV. Works great, but you have to work at the tough smudges.

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ShaneB
Oct 21, 2002


I saw my first 120hz TV in a store the other day and it just seemed... WEIRD. The store was playing the Transformers Blu-Ray, and it looked like it was in fast-forward but running at the same speed as the other sets. It didn't look smoother, it looked WRONG, like it was video instead of film. Is this a typical reaction to 120hz sets, or is this due to a bad implementation of the technology, or what?

No. 6
Jun 30, 2002

ShaneB posted:

I saw my first 120hz TV in a store the other day and it just seemed... WEIRD. The store was playing the Transformers Blu-Ray, and it looked like it was in fast-forward but running at the same speed as the other sets. It didn't look smoother, it looked WRONG, like it was video instead of film. Is this a typical reaction to 120hz sets, or is this due to a bad implementation of the technology, or what?

This is likely a result of the motion interpolation technology. I just bought a Philips 46" 46PFL7605 and it's a 100hz set with "HD Natural Motion."

First thing the wife said after I popped in a DVD for testing was the film looked like a soap opera (ie. video vs film). Fortunatly Philips gives you 4 options of settings (minimum, medium, maximum, and off) so you can experiment and see what you like.

Personally, I hate motion interpolation for movies and think it detracts from the feeling of original content. I haven't tested it on games yet but will do that this week to see how it fairs.

fahrvergnugen
Nov 27, 2003

Intergalactic proton-powered electrical tentacled REFRIGERATOR OF DOOM.

ShaneB posted:

I saw my first 120hz TV in a store the other day and it just seemed... WEIRD. The store was playing the Transformers Blu-Ray, and it looked like it was in fast-forward but running at the same speed as the other sets. It didn't look smoother, it looked WRONG, like it was video instead of film. Is this a typical reaction to 120hz sets, or is this due to a bad implementation of the technology, or what?

Your reaction to motion interpolation / motion smoothing is not only normal, but also morally and ethically correct.

Note that motion smoothing and 120Hz are not the same thing. 120Hz itself is good.

ShaneB
Oct 21, 2002


fahrvergnugen posted:

Your reaction to motion interpolation / motion smoothing is not only normal, but also morally and ethically correct.

Note that motion smoothing and 120Hz are not the same thing. 120Hz itself is good.

Can you explain the difference? I mean I understand motion smoothing, of course, but what does 120hz ... "do"?

Beef Of Ages
Jan 11, 2003

Your dumb is leaking.
I've got an older 50" Samsung rear projection DLP that is on its last legs. As such, I am in the market for a new 1080p HDTV. I've read the FAQs and done some research, but there is a shitload of marketing hype where the shittiest TV is the best thing ever and the best TV is also the best thing ever, so I'm having issues navigating the bullshit to figure out what is really a good value.

I know I want to spend around $1000. I'd also like to stay at the 50" screen size, which to my understanding means Plasma. Now, I remember all the issues Plasmas used to have with going dim after a few years and whatnot, but that their color performance was better than LCDs. They also, if I remember correctly, suffer less of the 24p issues than LCDs do (the whole 3:2 dropdown/120Hz issue right?). Is any of that still and issue or even remotely correct?

I'm seeing some fairly decent deals at Best Buy right now, and I while I generally loathe Best Buy from a pricing and service standpoint, $979 with no interest for 36 months and a free Blu-Ray player (a lovely one I'm sure but I don't have one right now so meh) is looking awfully good.

For reference, this is the Plasma I'm looking at. I was also looking at a 46" LCD from Samsung (product page here) but am unsure about its specs as well.

My wife and I are not super heavy TV watchers, maybe an hour or two a day. I also watch NFL Football and we have a Wii. We do enjoy watching movies and may watch one or two a week off Netflix. My Time Warner cable is the only HD source I currently have in the house right now, and it's perfectly fine most of the time.

So I suppose at the end of the day, I would like a good quality TV that isn't horrifically expensive. I don't need the zomg supar best evar unit, but I don't want a hunk of poo poo either. Based on my rough calculations, 47" to 50" works best for my living room. Thoughts and suggestions would be most appreciated.

evilalien
Jul 29, 2005

Knowledge is born from Curiosity.

ShaneB posted:

Can you explain the difference? I mean I understand motion smoothing, of course, but what does 120hz ... "do"?

It allows 24fps material (movies on blu-ray mainly) to be displayed at 24fps removing judder caused by 3:2 pulldown.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecine#2:3_pulldown if you don't know what 3:2 pulldown is.

fahrvergnugen
Nov 27, 2003

Intergalactic proton-powered electrical tentacled REFRIGERATOR OF DOOM.

Mackieman posted:

I've got an older 50" Samsung rear projection DLP that is on its last legs.

Not to be patronizing, but have you ever replaced your bulb? I was contemplating a new TV until I swapped the bulb in my rear-projection Sony, and now I'm keeping the drat thing as long as I can.

Beef Of Ages
Jan 11, 2003

Your dumb is leaking.

fahrvergnugen posted:

Not to be patronizing, but have you ever replaced your bulb? I was contemplating a new TV until I swapped the bulb in my rear-projection Sony, and now I'm keeping the drat thing as long as I can.

No worries, it's a valid question. The TV belonged to my parents for a long time and they replaced the bulb once. Once they upgraded to something newer (and listened to the moron at Best Buy who talked them into $300 in Monster cables despite my warnings before they went to the store :bang:) I was given this unit. The problem I have now is that if it has been on for longer than about five minutes and then I turn it off, I have to wait at least half an hour before I can turn it back on again. It cycles on and off with audio but the lamp never comes back on. I've checked the fan and everything else I can think of in short of actually disassembling the whole drat thing to no avail. Once it finally comes back on, it works like a champ. I'm pretty :confused: about it, really. Google searches for possible solutions all say, "No idea what the gently caress, send it in for multi-hundred dollar repair." If that's how it's going to be, I'd rather spend a little more and upgrade.

Fitret
Mar 25, 2003

We are rolling for the King of All Cosmos!
I'm moving into my own place (I have a roommate right now) and I'm looking to get a complete setup - TV, receiver and probably a 5.1 system for now. For the TV, I'm probably looking for something around the 60" mark and I'll primarily be using it for Xbox / PS3 games as well as HD content. Based on what my roommates and friends have, I'm leaning towards a plasma, and likely Panasonic, but I'm not really up on what the latest and greatest is. Where should I begin?

Mango Polo
Aug 4, 2007
Burn in/image retention question on a plasma TV!

I have been playing a lot of StarCraft 2 (in 2-3 hours bursts) since it came out, and now I've started to notice that some of the brighter UI elements have left an imprint on the screen. I've noticed that whenever I play a game there's always some image retention, but it always goes away within hours (if not minutes).

This time though, the UI elements are still there after 20 hours of non-use. They've gotten a fair bit paler to the point that they can't be noticed unless the screen is dark, but that still worries me. For reference, this is a 2009 Panasonic TC, not an old model.

1) Should I be worried about burn in at this point?
2) Is there anything I should do to avoid worsening this? Limiting my continuous play time to an hour?
3) How do I clean up the remaining faint outline? By playing some different content?

Now every time I'm watching a movie I want to do an attack-move command :sigh:

evilalien
Jul 29, 2005

Knowledge is born from Curiosity.
Stop playing any StarCraft on that TV immediately. It's more likely to be just a bad case of IR instead of permanent burn-in. Keep on using your TV and it will eventually go away as long as you stay away from playing any more StarCraft on it (or anything else with lots of static elements for that matter).

Mango Polo
Aug 4, 2007

evilalien posted:

Stop playing any StarCraft on that TV immediately. It's more likely to be just a bad case of IR instead of permanent burn-in. Keep on using your TV and it will eventually go away as long as you stay away from playing any more StarCraft on it (or anything else with lots of static elements for that matter).

poo poo :(
I thought that plasma was able to deal with things like that somewhat correctly. Guess I need a new monitor then.

evilalien
Jul 29, 2005

Knowledge is born from Curiosity.

Mango Polo posted:

poo poo :(
I thought that plasma was able to deal with things like that somewhat correctly. Guess I need a new monitor then.

StarCraft is pretty much worst case scenario. It has very large areas of static UI that involves areas of black surrounded by bright borders. You can resume playing games on it after the IR is all gone, but you need to be using the TV more between gaming sessions for more normal things (TV,movies,etc) to make sure the IR doesn't return.

I had to stop playing games on my Panasonic due to the same problems pretty much. I wasn't willing to cut down on my gaming enough to stop IR from being a problem.

nuiker
Apr 9, 2007
I'm looking to get a tv for my bedroom, it's going to be used for a mix of low def cable(comcast) though that will probably get upgraded to hd in the future, gaming, and movies. I was looking at getting something around 37 inches and I also wanted it to be 1080p since I'll use it as a monitor every once in a while.

I'm thinking about getting the Insignia NS-37L550A11 from Best Buy. I checked the manual and looks like the 120hz can be adjusted so I'm not to worried about that and it has a game mode. I'm not to sure how good of a brand Insignia is, and the only reviews I could find were on BestBuy.com so I'm not sure if I can really trust those.

If anyone has any thoughts on it, I'd appreciate them, or if you have a suggestion for something better. I'm looking to spend somewhere in the $500-700, unless there's something amazing I can get for a little bit more.

Mango Polo
Aug 4, 2007

evilalien posted:

StarCraft is pretty much worst case scenario. It has very large areas of static UI that involves areas of black surrounded by bright borders. You can resume playing games on it after the IR is all gone, but you need to be using the TV more between gaming sessions for more normal things (TV,movies,etc) to make sure the IR doesn't return.

I had to stop playing games on my Panasonic due to the same problems pretty much. I wasn't willing to cut down on my gaming enough to stop IR from being a problem.

Well so far it's held up fantastically well with 99% of my gaming, it's just StarCraft that has caused me woes. Still though, I'm going to be more careful from now on.

Would lowering the contrast & brightness help in some way? They were set to 55/60, which I dropped to 45/50.

How does the anti-image retention feature work on the Panasonic plasmas? When I activate it I get the moving white bar, but it automatically stops after a few minutes. I thought it was supposed to run for a few hours; it doesn't though, so what's the benefit/way to use it?

Uziel
Jun 28, 2004

Ask me about losing 200lbs, and becoming the Viking God of W&W.
Anyway to force the 360 to change the aspect ratio of 4:3 DVDs? It's set to output 1080p over HDMI and my TV is set to Dot by Dot (PRO-101FD), but I'm getting a 4:3 picture (example DVD is Happy Feet). The PS3 has an upconvert to full option but I can't find it for the 360.

Uziel fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Aug 11, 2010

Slywalker13
Jan 4, 2005
I will have to live with this title since I am too cheap to buy a new one.
I apologize if this isn't the place to do this, but I'm looking at finally upgrading from my 32" CRT and would like some advice. The room the TV will be in has a 3'x5' window that faces south so I was advised against plasma. We intend to use the TV for gaming and sports primarily, but movies and TV also. I have no desire to have one of those super ones that hooks up to the TV and can update twitter or facebook or whatever, that's what a laptop is for. I don't think a projetor is an option but we'd like to put it on a wall mount that can move if that's possible (looks like it will be close to an indoor 270 degree corner). Looking for 55" up and we have 3 grand to spend, but around 2 grand would be nicer. No desire for 3D TV, just makes us sick and we tried our best to compare LED to LCD and we think subjectively the LED does look nicer and might be worth the extra cash, but maybe that was the power of suggestion. Anyone have any advice or good TVs to look at? Thanks.

Zeo
Oct 15, 2009
Requesting info on a good HDTV, I have approximately 25-26" width to work with in physical space, so a 23" or 22" TV I'd imagine. This is for a television in a small room, ~6' or so viewing distance at eye level.

At current I've been looking at these -- can anyone give me the good, the bad, and the ugly, and make recommendations? Looking for good bang for buck here. Thanks!


Thank You!

Edit: Having second thoughts with those TVs after reading some of the bad reviews. Apparently there's a glossy face, issues with audio breaking up after some time watching. Additionally it says the HDMI In is not accepting sound over HDMI? http://www.walmart.com/catalog/allReviews.do?product_id=13059421

Zeo fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Aug 12, 2010

jk619760
Oct 25, 2007

by T. Finn
Ok, so after a few years worth of waiting and researching, I've finally been able to come up with the funds to actually BUY a TV rather than speculate. I've got 1200 to spend, and am primarily looking at the 40 or 46 inch LCDs. Primary use will be sports, movies, and games (in order of usage). I've been eyeing the Samsung LEDs because of the unanimous praise of picture quality and black levels, not to mention their design (which is somewhat important).
But I've also read that the Sony Bravias are awesome units as well.
I'm not going to ask outright, "what tv should I buy, tell me" because that would be somewhat foolish. Rather, as far as brands go, anything Samsung and Sony lack that would not justify blowing 1200 bucks on a TV? I've done my research and have gone around asking many video professionals about what qualities I should look for, and it usually comes down to having to see the TV in person, properly calibrated.
So, from personal experience, what is the verdict on what TVs are going to give me a reasonable return of happiness on my investment?

Uziel
Jun 28, 2004

Ask me about losing 200lbs, and becoming the Viking God of W&W.
Given that most people do NOT think LED is superior picture quality, motion handling or blacks, (I own both plasma and LCD) especially in that price range, who told you that?

It depends on your viewing environment and view distances, but:
In plasma, for that kind of money, you could have a 58" TV:
http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TC-P58S2-58-Inch-1080p-Plasma/dp/B003924UA2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1281789923&sr=8-1

Or a 60" LG (doesn't have a great AR filter but AWESOME picture):
http://www.amazon.com/LG-60PK550-60-Inch-1080p-Plasma/dp/B0038S41YM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1281790006&sr=1-1

This is the calibrator I used, and many people on AVSforum trust his reviews of TVs (both LCD and plasma). Even if you are anti-plasma, his reviews should help IMO.

http://hdtvbychadb.com/reviews.htm

Uziel fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Aug 14, 2010

Dache
Dec 26, 2003

this happy little fella is steve


I've had a Samsung 32" LCD for about 4 years now and while it has served me well in that time, it's really starting to show its age and after seeing some of my friends' newer TVs, I'm feeling jealous.

So I'm still kind of torn between plasma and LED LCD. A friend of mine has a 46" Panasonic G20 plasma and really likes it, but he still complains about ghosting and doesn't like the glassy front with all the glare from his windows that all plasmas have and which really annoy me, yet it does look stunning. Power consumption is definitely a concern for me though, which is another point that puts me off of plasma a bit. I also play a lot of games, so burn-in worries me too.

I really like the look of the Sharp Quattron series, but I could well be being suckered by the hype about the 4th colour and all that - do they actually look better? I don't know if any stores around me have any on display for me to go and look at...

And saying all of that, I'm definitely not set on Sharp at all - I just want the best TV within my price-range. I'm going to be watching a lot of DVDs and Blu-Rays on this, but also doing an equivalent amount of gaming on it, including fighting games, so input lag is definitely a massive concern. Another reason I'm interested in a Quattron is that I've heard that Sharp TVs are particularly good when it comes to lag, but I can't find any data that backs this up for the Quattron series specifically.

Is there a collated database of lag tests for many TVs anywhere? Apparently AVSForum is a good place to find lag test info, but it's so disorganised that it's hard to find anything unless you already know what TVs you want to look at, and I'm kind of going into this backwards. I guess money-wise, I'm looking at about £1200 or so, and I definitely don't want smaller than 46". 50" would be perfect, but it's not a deal-breaker.

Dache fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Aug 14, 2010

Brock Landers
Jul 28, 2004

You're a donkey. I like that.

Dache posted:

Power consumption is definitely a concern for me though, which is another point that puts me off of plasma a bit. I also play a lot of games, so burn-in worries me too.


The power difference between LCD and Plasma is around 60-80 watts, which is pretty trivial. At 5 hours of use per day and 8 cents per kw/hr, that's $20 a YEAR difference. Burn-in also isn't a factor with plasma, even for gaming. There will probably be image retention, but that works itself out as long as you watch "normal" TV frequently.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Mango Polo posted:

Well so far it's held up fantastically well with 99% of my gaming, it's just StarCraft that has caused me woes. Still though, I'm going to be more careful from now on.

Have you been watching other content on the TV in between your playing sessions? Playing something for 2 hours, turning the TV off for a day, and then turning it back on and playing the same thing is equivalent to just playing for 4 hours straight. IR is only going to go away if you vary the content.

If you are varying what you watch then I guess Starcraft 2 really is just a bitch on plasmas. I just find it kind of surprising since I've used my Panasonic G10 for 8 hour Civ 4 sessions (yes I have no life shut up okay), and the only IR I get is invisible on anything less than a totally black screen. Even that's gone after a couple of hours of watching any kind of normal TV.

I guess I hate to imagine plasmas having problems I haven't encountered yet because I've had this TV for a year now and I can't stomach the idea of going back to LCD. :ohdear:

A Duck!
Apr 22, 2003

jk619760 posted:

I've been eyeing the Samsung LEDs because of the unanimous praise of picture quality and black levels, not to mention their design (which is somewhat important).

I spent a lot of time looking up this same stuff recently, and ultimately chose the Samsung UN55C6300 LED.

I've had a few really nice Pioneer Elite and Panasonic Plasmas, but I just couldn't take my older (2007 or 2008 model, can't remember) Panasonic 58" heating up my living room like a drat space heater anymore.

My Samsung has an awesome picture, way brighter than the Plasma, and no image retention which started to be a problem with my 360 on the plasma.

I've never used one of the G20s everyone loves here, but after looking at a few TVs in the store I was blown away by how small and how bright the Samsung was, so I picked it up via Amazon. It's like it's not even there and it uses next to no power/heat waste.

I have no doubt that Plasmas are more versatile, but I think LED TVs have their place too.

I mostly watch HD sports, Plex HTPC/Gaming, and non-live TiVo cable in that order.

quaint bucket
Nov 29, 2007

Welp, need some opinion on this deal. $250 off + $100 off (customer appreciation) + free blu-ray player (sony, valued at $200)

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/prod...d16d22adcf0en02

I was just in the store 2 hours ago looking at tv in person and making note of them to go back home to check the specs myself. What do you guys think? I just might pull the trigger on this but I am a huge child and can't go into stores atm since all locations are closed.

Fishmasher
Apr 22, 2002
It looks like a fairly average sale to me. Maybe a little bit better than average. Personally I'd look at last years 42"-46" Plasmas first. That's where most of the value is, I just don't think this years LEDs are really worth ~2x more. Also I'd much rather choose a PS3 over that bundled Blu-ray player.

Fishmasher fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Aug 15, 2010

quaint bucket
Nov 29, 2007

Decided not to go for the deal for the time being. Price will most likely drop due to age (was released on Feb 2010) and the availability of 3D TV. "Better" sales will be available later on during the years on notable statutory holidays.

Fishmasher posted:

It looks like a fairly average sale to me. Maybe a little bit better than average. Personally I'd look at last years 42"-46" Plasmas first. That's where most of the value is, I just don't think this years LEDs are really worth ~2x more. Also I'd much rather choose a PS3 over that bundled Blu-ray player.

I've considered 42-46 plasmas but a lot of things about them turned me off: burn-ins/image retentions (I am planning on hooking it up to a computer and my xbox360); generates heat and/or buzzing noises (I saw a lot of common complaints in reviews); light placements (the tv will be fairly close to a window, so light is not as easy to control).

e: It helps I did some more research and peeped at AVSForum to find out that the new model (ex710) is coming out soon so they're probably trying to push their ex703 model out with reduced pricing. I'm rather hopeful in this regards. v:shobon:v

late edit: also, another point that drove me away from plasma is that the screens are glossy. Considering my apartment is well lit, it's problematic for me. The tv I'm looking at is known to have a semi-matte screen soooo. Hell, when I was at the store looking at the tv, I turned it off for kicks and saw it didn't show my reflection. Of course, a salesman was kind of upset that I turned it off. I dunno why.

quaint bucket fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Aug 15, 2010

spasticColon
Sep 22, 2004

In loving memory of Donald Pleasance
Text in PS3 games on my six year old 26" CRT HDTV is unreadable at 720p and 1080i so what is a good 26" LCD HDTV for $400 or less? I would use it mainly for gaming on the PS3 and Wii along with some movies and TV. Thanks in advance.

Edit: this one perhaps?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889005119

spasticColon fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Aug 16, 2010

Fitret
Mar 25, 2003

We are rolling for the King of All Cosmos!
I took a trip to Magnolia today to start scoping out what I'm going to get for my new apartment - I'm looking for a complete setup so it seemed like a good place to go. After having visited, I was sold on the Panasonic TC-P58VT25, which I can find for $2,650, but now that I'm looking around at home, I saw that their S2 series is significantly cheaper and offers a lot of the same series (TC-P58S2). In fact, I could upgrade to the 65" model in the S2 series and still pay slightly less than the 58" from the VT25 series. The biggest difference seem to be contrast ratio (2000:1 vs. 5000:1) and the VT25 is supposed to have better black levels. I can't find much info online comparing the two - anyone have any experience with either of these sets?

Fishmasher
Apr 22, 2002
The VT25 is 3D capable, is professionally pre-calibrated, less phosphor trails, better blacks, contrast, and Wi-Fi ready. It's their high-end marketed to videophiles who want the best.

It's nice, but you pay a large premium for things that aren't necessary. The built-in network stuff is basically worthless to me, I'd connect a PS3 or computer either way. I wouldn't really want to pay a large premium for 3D just yet, or for the calibration, and don't have a problem with phosphor trails or blacks. As long as they look black and not grey. If you can relate to most of that then the S2 should probably be good enough. If you are obsessed with having the newest and the best, you'd be happier with a VT25.

Fishmasher fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Aug 16, 2010

Corin Tucker's Stalker
May 27, 2001


One bullet. One gun. Six Chambers. These are my friends.

After years of happily getting by with a 22" LCD, I just picked up a 42-inch Panasonic plasma, and am astounded by the difference. I knew the screen was fairly large, but there's something different about actually getting it in your living room and seeing a program with lots of detail, like the blades of grass on a golf course.

Now I'm all geeked out about watching my favorite movies again. Just wanted to say thanks for all the questions being answered in here, as they help lurkers like me. I was still worried about plasma burn-in and lifespan before I read through the thread.

Cop
Nov 14, 2007
We're looking to get a new television. Right now we have an old 27" tube television. We're looking to spend around $700-$800 and want it to be 40"-42" unless there is a decent television that's larger.

What would be the best bet for our living room for that price range? I've been looking at NFM and BestBuy and want some opinions.

CDW
Aug 26, 2004
I thought I knew what I wanted, but hit a financing snag and couldn't get a tv today, I've been reading up on the thread and just want a second set of opinions since I have to wait anyway.

I'm primarily looking for a gaming TV. Rockband will be a big percentage of its use, as will be Madden, both of which have a lot of static elements. I know plasmas don't burn in as much but I am worried about how much retention I'll have and how much I'll have to have it on regular tv to clear it. I want to go 720p because not many games are 1080p yet, and it's cheaper. I DO NOT have a lot of light in the room as it's in a basement so that part is fine. Should I consider an LCD or some other type of TV?

As stupid as this "requirement" is, I have some money at Wal-Mart so if anything can go through there, it's better but not absolutely necessary since I could just use that money on a game system if not the TV.

TV's I have been looking at:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Panasonic-TC-P42C2/14710589

This is what I intended to buy today and didn't, seems to be one of the best plasmas to go with. 42 seems like a good size for the about 8 feet I'll be sitting away from it. Price range could go up around 700 if worth it but this tv is mostly a stopgap till a few years down when 1080p or 3D is the norm, and I don't think I'll find much in 720p anyway.

The earliest I could get anything at all would be Friday, so I'll definitely read and look into any replies.

azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005
I'm thinking of replacing my old Samsung 32"LCD with something a bit larger, and I'm leaning toward the Vizio E470VL model.

Looking at reviews online, I've seen some complaints about the autodimming feature "overpowering" other IR remotes (like for a DVR) and rendering them useless.

I've also seen some complaints about the image smoothing making things look strange (although it can be disabled), so I was wondering if anyone here could offer some opinions on Vizio sets.

StuntDouble
May 31, 2009

Corin Tucker's Stalker posted:

After years of happily getting by with a 22" LCD, I just picked up a 42-inch Panasonic plasma, and am astounded by the difference. I knew the screen was fairly large, but there's something different about actually getting it in your living room and seeing a program with lots of detail, like the blades of grass on a golf course.

Now I'm all geeked out about watching my favorite movies again. Just wanted to say thanks for all the questions being answered in here, as they help lurkers like me. I was still worried about plasma burn-in and lifespan before I read through the thread.

Did you get the S2? Could you maybe give a quick review of whatever TV you purchased?

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

I found my kendo stick, bitch!

Lipstick Apathy

jk619760 posted:

Ok, so after a few years worth of waiting and researching, I've finally been able to come up with the funds to actually BUY a TV rather than speculate. I've got 1200 to spend, and am primarily looking at the 40 or 46 inch LCDs. Primary use will be sports, movies, and games (in order of usage). I've been eyeing the Samsung LEDs because of the unanimous praise of picture quality and black levels, not to mention their design (which is somewhat important).
But I've also read that the Sony Bravias are awesome units as well.
I'm not going to ask outright, "what tv should I buy, tell me" because that would be somewhat foolish. Rather, as far as brands go, anything Samsung and Sony lack that would not justify blowing 1200 bucks on a TV? I've done my research and have gone around asking many video professionals about what qualities I should look for, and it usually comes down to having to see the TV in person, properly calibrated.
So, from personal experience, what is the verdict on what TVs are going to give me a reasonable return of happiness on my investment?

I may not be a very good videophile, but I've had a 120hz 40" Sony Bravia LCD for a year now and I'm STILL blown away by how good this thing looks. Out of the box, I'll admit, it didn't look that great, but once I sat down and went through all the settings while watching blu-rays and playing video games (stuff with a lot of contrast helped, like Wall-E, Infamous and MGS4) and got everything set just right, it's fantastic. I sit about seven feet back when watching football or playing the PS3 and I couldn't be more pleased with it.

Not to mention, I may be lucky, but it seems these are really built to last, as I've not found one single dead pixel... and I check it periodically.

I don't know how far it rates in the "awesome TV" department, but with the budget you've described (mine was $900 but it's probably cheaper now but that's what I got it for last year) I'd highly recommend it. Hell, you could probably get the 240hz model with 1200 bucks.

Also, my brother got the 46" version of this same TV and I swear mine looks better. Either they didn't fix up the settings right or it's just an inferior model, I don't know.

Edit: One more thing - calibrate it at home. Do it yourself (I did mine myself, it's not hard, just time consuming) or have someone else do it but don't let them do it at the store, because I doubt your house is lit by dozens of fluorescent lights suspended fifty feet in the air. You probably already know that but some people might not. I've heard a lot of people complain about how the TV looked SO much better at the store and they got it home and the color is wrong, the blacks aren't deep enough, etc etc... then I went over to their house and next thing you know they loved it again.

Fenrir fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Aug 17, 2010

ShaneB
Oct 21, 2002


Cop posted:

We're looking to get a new television. Right now we have an old 27" tube television. We're looking to spend around $700-$800 and want it to be 40"-42" unless there is a decent television that's larger.

What would be the best bet for our living room for that price range? I've been looking at NFM and BestBuy and want some opinions.

LG 42LD550 is supposed to be insanely good for the money. Use my referral link if you buy it it would be rad http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/B0039RSYQS/greatbiglie

The Jizzer
Mar 19, 2003

...a man that doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man.
I have a friend who is looking for a 50-60" television for about $2000. This seems to be in a range for a good selection of sets.

I was thinking to suggest that he get a Panasonic Plasma (linked a few posts above) and save the extra $600 for better speakers.

Is there anything in the $2K range that's a "must have" right now?

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Uziel
Jun 28, 2004

Ask me about losing 200lbs, and becoming the Viking God of W&W.

The Jizzer posted:

I have a friend who is looking for a 50-60" television for about $2000. This seems to be in a range for a good selection of sets.

I was thinking to suggest that he get a Panasonic Plasma (linked a few posts above) and save the extra $600 for better speakers.

Is there anything in the $2K range that's a "must have" right now?
That's actually a pretty huge range for a TV. Any way he can narrow it down more? He could get a 65" mid range or a 50" top of the line best PQ in that price range.

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