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Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

Thom P. Tiers posted:

So I am going to (most likely) purchase this TV:

http://www.lg.com/us/tv-audio-video/televisions/LG-lcd-tv-47LE5400.jsp

I just have a question that I hope someone can answer. If I plug an ethernet cord into the back of it and hook up my network files to it (can I do that?) what will the user interface be like. Easy to use? Ugly? Nice?

By network files I mean movies and tv shows.

Does anyone have any experience with LG network interface?

http://lgknowledgebase.com/kb/index.php?View=entry&EntryID=6460 has photos of lg's media interface.

Edit: take a thumb drive to the store and plug it in to the usb port if you can to see the interface.

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Ample
Dec 25, 2007
Anyone have any experience or thought on the Samsung LN40C630. I'm looking for a 40 inch tv for a somewhat sunny room. I'd like to spend no more than $900.00 on it. It will be mostly used for TV and blueray.

Verman
Jul 4, 2005
Third time is a charm right?

Thom P. Tiers posted:

So I am going to (most likely) purchase this TV:

http://www.lg.com/us/tv-audio-video/televisions/LG-lcd-tv-47LE5400.jsp


Given my recent raise at work, Im also going to purchase a new TV. Im looking around 40-42", preferably not plasma since I play a lot of the same video game and watch a lot of hockey.

I think Im actually going to purchase the 42" version of the TV you're looking at, so in the next couple of days Im going to head into a store to get a good look at it first hand, but for the price on amazon it seems like a great deal.

$949
http://www.amazon.com/LG-42LE5400-4...d=2RHUORSETQO0I


or this for $749, basically the same TV minus Energy Star, 1 component input, contrast ratio, and isn't LED

http://www.amazon.com/LG-42LD550-42...d=2RHUORSETQO0I



My question is that if you want it wireless, do you need their dongle seen below,
http://www.lg.com/us/tv-audio-video/accessories/LG-tv-accessories-AN-WF100.jsp
or can you use a generic broadband wireless dongle which would obviously cheaper?

Verman fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Sep 22, 2010

Thom P. Tiers
May 29, 2008

Red Birds
Red Ass
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Don Lapre posted:

http://lgknowledgebase.com/kb/index.php?View=entry&EntryID=6460 has photos of lg's media interface.

Edit: take a thumb drive to the store and plug it in to the usb port if you can to see the interface.

This was extremely helpful, thank you.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

Thom P. Tiers posted:

This was extremely helpful, thank you.

I haven't looked in to what you're buying at all, but what first popped in to my head is to make sure the TV supports the file formats you want to play on it.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

Thermopyle posted:

I haven't looked in to what you're buying at all, but what first popped in to my head is to make sure the TV supports the file formats you want to play on it.

Its impressive how good the newer tv's have gotten, the LG supports

Video
Video Codecs: DivX, Xvid, H.264, AVC, MPEG2
Audio Codecs: AC3, ACC, WMA, MP3, DD
File Extensions: MP4, MKV, DIVX, AVI, MPEG, MPG, VOB
Music
Audio Codecs: WMA, MP3 (8-320 kbps)
File Extensions: WMA, MP3

Photos
Codecs: JPEG, PNG
File Extensions: JPG, JPEG, PNG

Though i would take a flash drive with a high bitrate 1080p mkv and make sure it works.

Verman
Jul 4, 2005
Third time is a charm right?

Don Lapre posted:

Its impressive how good the newer tv's have gotten, the LG supports

Video
Video Codecs: DivX, Xvid, H.264, AVC, MPEG2
Audio Codecs: AC3, ACC, WMA, MP3, DD
File Extensions: MP4, MKV, DIVX, AVI, MPEG, MPG, VOB
Music
Audio Codecs: WMA, MP3 (8-320 kbps)
File Extensions: WMA, MP3

Photos
Codecs: JPEG, PNG
File Extensions: JPG, JPEG, PNG

Though i would take a flash drive with a high bitrate 1080p mkv and make sure it works.

Its crazy to think that I used to have to plug my laptop into my 32" tube tv via S-video cable to watch movies of those formats.

threeagainstfour
Jun 27, 2005




I actually ended up buying this exact TV and I can confirm that it is the poo poo. My only criticism is that if you want to use the wireless capability it requires their little USB thumb drive adapater, and it's like 40 bucks. Fortunately for me that wasn't a problem, as I just ran an ethernet cable to it.

Oh wait, I did think of one incredibly aggravating thing about the TV. The Youtube application provides no way to up the resolution on Youtube videos, at least not one that I know about. So even if a video has a 1080p option you're just stuck with the 480 version.

In the big picture that's a pretty small gripe. I hope they address it in future firmware updates though.

threeagainstfour fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Sep 23, 2010

Sab0921
Aug 2, 2004

This for my justices slingin' thangs, rib breakin' kings / Truck, necklace, robe, gavel and things / For the solicitors seein' them dissents spin and grin / That robe with the lace trim that win.
What's the word on this TV?

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN46C6300-46-Inch-1080p-Black/dp/B0036WT4C4/ref=sr_1_1?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1285218976&sr=1-1

Amazon is selling it for $1000, I just don't know much about LED edge lighting, other than the ultra slim is pretty cool.

Hex Darkstar
May 28, 2004

I think I need another liver transplant.
So after googing around for an hour and not finding anything besides review sites and what not I have a question regarding a Pioneer 50" display (PDP-504CMX) I picked up for cheap off a friend. The set itself support 1280x768 (16:9 aspect) and has DVI, VGA and S-Video inputs). I attempted to hook up the HD box that i've got from comcast (DVI-D to HDMI cable) but DVI input seems to display the following screen:



I've hooked up a laptop to it using the same cable at the supported resolution and it worked just fine. I've hooked up an LCD display with the DVI-HDMI cable and the comcast box displays fine so i'm not sure if I am just making a mistake assuming that the comcast box would work with this display or if i'm doing something wrong.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


It's possible that the box is outputting 1080i and the tv is struggling with it for some reason. See if you can make sure it's set for 720p and try again.

Fist of Fury
Dec 3, 2004

THIS TITLE CAN'T POSSIBLY BE AS OBNOXIOUS AS MY POSTS
Fry's was running a deal on a Major Brand 32" TV last week for $299. Supposedly they have some weird agreement with manufacturers that they can't list the items by name in their fliers, so you have to either call or visit the store to see what it is they are actually selling. Found out the TV in question was an LG 32LD350.

I didn't pull the trigger on the deal, based on this reasoning:

- 720p in late 2010 feels like I'm buying a floppy disc drive in late 2010. There isn't any future proofing.

- We're 2 months out from Black Friday, and there's bound to be better deals coming along. Mostly looking at potential name brand 42" 1080p panels for < $400 new, or would that be an unrealistic price point?


Am I just an idiot for not springing on this 32" set at that price? I haven't seen a comparable deal in a full week.

Verman
Jul 4, 2005
Third time is a charm right?
You're going to find a better deal the detail after you get your tv. It's called buyers remorse and with electronics, its inevitable because of the speed of tech progression. I've seen decent 32-37" Samsung go for low $300-350. The best thing to do is to find a set you pike and stick with it. Most of those black Friday specials are made just for black Friday with corners cut to bring down the prices such as q hdmi input, slower pixel response time, etc. History shows that the sales continue through the end of January underil superbowl season with nearly the same price point as on black Friday. Get a tv you like and never look at tvs again.

Hex Darkstar
May 28, 2004

I think I need another liver transplant.

bull3964 posted:

It's possible that the box is outputting 1080i and the tv is struggling with it for some reason. See if you can make sure it's set for 720p and try again.

Thank you so much, it turns out you were correct the comcast box was outputting the video in 1080i only 720 and 480p were turned off. Got a bit more tinkering to do with it but i did find the guide to set the video display methods. If you have a RNG110 box from comcast it is just basically you have to turn the set top box off press menu then down arrow and then right arrow and it'll bring up the menu to enable your supported video methods.

modig
Aug 20, 2002

Fist of Fury posted:

- 720p in late 2010 feels like I'm buying a floppy disc drive in late 2010. There isn't any future proofing.


My opinion on 720p is that it's drat hard to find any 1080p source material aside from blu-ray, so there is really no downside as long as you aren't way into blu-ray. If you are looking for a bargain basement deal, feel no remorse over 720p. If the set you want with the features you want is 1080p anyway, then get 1080p.

modig
Aug 20, 2002

Ample posted:

Anyone have any experience or thought on the Samsung LN40C630. I'm looking for a 40 inch tv for a somewhat sunny room. I'd like to spend no more than $900.00 on it. It will be mostly used for TV and blueray.

I bought this TV in 46 inch for right about $900, and it was great. I ended up returning it to get a 46 inch panasonic G25 instead because it's input lag for games isn't so good. I'm not sure if I could tell, or if I just freaked myself out from reading too much information on input lag.

FYI the 46 inch version is $917 on Amazon if the only thing holding you back is price.

edit: Just saw this on dealsea, $700 for a 46 inch C630 at Frys http://www.frys.com/product/6179469

http://dealsea.com/view-deal/43593

modig fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Sep 25, 2010

Fist of Fury
Dec 3, 2004

THIS TITLE CAN'T POSSIBLY BE AS OBNOXIOUS AS MY POSTS

Verman posted:

modig posted:


Thanks so much for the replies, I *did* find this link in a coupons and deals thread elsewhere on the forums. Really helped inform my understanding of whether to wait on a purchase. It looks like retailers nationwide are going to be begging for our recession dollars to help move an unprecedented overstock of televisions in the months to come. The smart money really seems to be on just waiting until the holidays and making a TV purchase then.

Some somewhat funny highlights from the article--

Apparently, manufacturers were banking on America's interest in soccer--always a really smart bet--to drive up sales:

CNN article posted:

Prices finally starting to fall in August -- after this summer's World Cup proved to be a much smaller sales catalyst than TV makers had hoped.

And here, television manufacturer's severely overestimate our interest in buying 32" sets for $900 with economic figures at 50-year lows:

CNN article posted:

"Manufacturers were playing a game of chicken, hoping demand would be there and reluctant to be the first one to let prices fall," said Paul Gagnon, director of TV research at DisplaySearch. "Only recently did they come to the shocking realization that prices needed to fall. That will have a good impact on holiday sales."

It's going to be incredibly exciting to stick it to these companies and buy one or more televisions at, in some cases, a third of what they were selling for last year.

coolskillrex remix
Jan 1, 2007

gorsh

modig posted:

My opinion on 720p is that it's drat hard to find any 1080p source material aside from blu-ray, so there is really no downside as long as you aren't way into blu-ray. If you are looking for a bargain basement deal, feel no remorse over 720p. If the set you want with the features you want is 1080p anyway, then get 1080p.

Problem is 720p 32" LCDs are usually really lovely panels, the 1080p 32" are s-ips.

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo
So I've managed to put off buying a flat screen for years now and may finally actually do it this time. What's my best value proposition in the 40-46" range right now, and should I just wait to see what I can grab on black Friday? I like Samsung as a brand (and I know this thread's love of them,) but I'm not married to it. I've seen the 46C630 at around 900$ (can't check if that Fry's deal is still on), can I do better?

mango sentinel fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Sep 27, 2010

Ample
Dec 25, 2007

modig posted:

I bought this TV in 46 inch for right about $900, and it was great. I ended up returning it to get a 46 inch panasonic G25 instead because it's input lag for games isn't so good. I'm not sure if I could tell, or if I just freaked myself out from reading too much information on input lag.

FYI the 46 inch version is $917 on Amazon if the only thing holding you back is price.

edit: Just saw this on dealsea, $700 for a 46 inch C630 at Frys http://www.frys.com/product/6179469

http://dealsea.com/view-deal/43593

Thank you for letting me know about the discounts. I was unaware of the fact the LN40C630 had poor input lag. Its disappointing to hear because the TV has a lot of other things going for it. The biggest TV my room can accommodate is 40 inches. I'm not going to be playing games on it that often but I would like to get the best TV I can for $400.00-$900.00 (ideally around $600.00). As I mentioned before the room is relatively sunny and I will be using it ot watch TV and for blueray. Can anyone recommend me a tv?

modig
Aug 20, 2002

Ample posted:

Thank you for letting me know about the discounts. I was unaware of the fact the LN40C630 had poor input lag. Its disappointing to hear because the TV has a lot of other things going for it. The biggest TV my room can accommodate is 40 inches. I'm not going to be playing games on it that often but I would like to get the best TV I can for $400.00-$900.00 (ideally around $600.00). As I mentioned before the room is relatively sunny and I will be using it ot watch TV and for blueray. Can anyone recommend me a tv?

A 40 inch C630 still sounds like a pretty good idea.

coolskillrex remix
Jan 1, 2007

gorsh
Holy crap the TC-P65S2 65" panny is $1843 on amazon... i cant stress this enough, 65" may sound gargantuan but if your head is 14 or more feet away (meaning measure from where your head is to where the actual screen would be) it is pretty much the only way you should be watching television. I have a 50" but ive seen a friends 65" from that distance and i really wish i had one.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00391Z89K?ie=UTF8&tag=243008992-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00391Z89K

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.
Is it possible a crappy HDMI cable could cause vertical banding? I can see it when using HDMI-3, which is Comcast, through a HDMI cable from the cable guy, but my BD player looks just fine, and black/grey screens show no such thing.

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.
HDMI cable carries digital information, so no. The HDMI cable isn't the problem.

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

GreatGreen posted:

HDMI cable carries digital information, so no. The HDMI cable isn't the problem.

So it wouldn't be the cable box, either?

Edit: I adjusted the black levels and darkness settings, and now black screens are as black as possible, so I don't see a thing.

Red fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Sep 28, 2010

Verman
Jul 4, 2005
Third time is a charm right?
As a shopper who hates buyers remorse, I went into best buy to look at the TV I wanted in person with plans to buy it on Amazon later.

To be quite honest I had a hard time differentiating between a lot of the TVs in the store. Plasma, LCD, LED....some seemed grainy but those were generally the cheapest of the bunch (store brand, low end).

Im also wondering about 1080 vs 720. I might have to go back but I didnt notice a difference, maybe I havent stared at HDTVs enough but if I could go from a 42" LED LCD with 1080 for $1000 to a 42" LCD 720p for $500, that decision makes itself right?.

Paying nearly half for something with (in my opinion) seemingly insignificant differences, puts me at a stand still on the TV I was looking at for $950.

Anyone else in this boat? I could definitely use some suggestions or advice.

This was my original choice
http://www.amazon.com/LG-42LE5400-42-Inch-Internet-Applications/dp/B0039JBXSM/ref=sr_1_6?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1285714420&sr=1-6

And now Im considering something like this as a contender
http://www.amazon.com/LG-42PJ350-42-Inch-720p-Plasma/dp/B0038W35EK/ref=sr_1_12?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1285714342&sr=1-12

quaint bucket
Nov 29, 2007

Verman posted:

q about tv's

The questions you should ask yourself is: what are you planning to do with your tv? Be honest with yourself in this regard.

1080p only matters for (heavy) blu-ray and computer usage.

Focus on 120hz if you go with lcd/led. This is important for sports broadcast. if you're going to be a heavy blu-ray user or a DirecTV subscriber.

If you play games/use it as computer monitor/watch a lot of sport w/ static images (sport HUDs are notorious for this) for long period of time, consider LCD/LED unless they figured a way around the burn-in/image retention problem w/ plasmas.

If you're more concerned about great picture quality, go with plasma. They have the best PQ out of all ranges, hands down. LEDs can barely come close to it.

If you're concerned w/ best bang for your bucks, go with plasmas. They are typically much cheaper than LCDs/LEDs out there. The favourite on this board from what I've seen is Panasonic PXXG25. The XX is the screen size.

RE: screen sizes: consider the distance of the tv to your head when you're sitting on the couch. This also impacts your decision between 720p/1080p.

Hope that helps!

Thinking about this stuff helped me narrowed my selections down to a 40-46inch LED (I want to push for 50 but price/space is an issue) 120hz at 1080p. My wife seems to really like the samsung line the best so far but her eyes was leaning towards the C5000 model (60hz) and I'm leaning more towards C6300. I would have gone w/ the plasma due to price/performance but since I'm planning to use the tv to double as a computer monitor (aw yeah), watching a lot of sport (CFL/NFL/NHL/soccer!) and games (360/wii), plasma is out of the question for me since burn-in/image retention is a serious issue for me. I don't know if the new plasmas have an issue w/ buzzing noises which I have to consider because my wife has tinnitus and I don't want her tinnitus to be aggravated by that.

e: I forgot! RE: buyer's remorse. There's only one thing you can do to prevent that (especially if you're suspectible to it). Once you have bought a new tv (or phone!), don't look at reviews or new products anymore. However, if you decide to buy from a store that honours price change after a purchase within a # of days (best buy does this, right?), bookmark the page w/ the tv that you bought, check on the price now and then. After the # of days, delete the bookmark and be perfectly happy w/ your tv. :)

quaint bucket fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Sep 29, 2010

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

Verman posted:

To be quite honest I had a hard time differentiating between a lot of the TVs in the store.

I'm always leery of the picture quality in big box stores because you are assuming that the televisions were set up correctly and that random people haven't played with the settings.

Verman
Jul 4, 2005
Third time is a charm right?
Quaint bucket, thanks for that quick rundown. Im leery about asking anyone from any big box store about TVs because most of the time they are high school kids who dont know anything but what the box tells them.

I will keep that post in mind and kind of re-evaluate my search, Im pretty content with 40-42" given my room size, any bigger and my eyes will burn out in a week or so. Looks like Im going 120hz LCD because I do play xbox and watch sports a lot. I dont watch blue ray but I would be watching HD movies and such, so Im considering 720p unless a 1080 happens to be comparable in price. Im looking at getting a HTPC so im thinking 1080 would be nice if I happen to use it as a monitor.

As far as buyers remorse...I just need to stop looking after I purchase.


wormil posted:

I'm always leery of the picture quality in big box stores because you are assuming that the televisions were set up correctly and that random people haven't played with the settings.

I was definitely aware of that going into the store so it sucks not seeing them on a benchmark.

quaint bucket
Nov 29, 2007

Verman posted:

Quaint bucket, thanks for that quick rundown. Im leery about asking anyone from any big box store about TVs because most of the time they are high school kids who dont know anything but what the box tells them.

It's basically what I've learned from reading the last 40+ page of this topic, a little from AVS, and a little from google searches/articles. Hopefully, my post was pretty bang on about what to look for.

fahrvergnugen
Nov 27, 2003

Intergalactic proton-powered electrical tentacled REFRIGERATOR OF DOOM.

quaint bucket posted:

Focus on 120hz if you go with lcd/led. This is important for sports broadcast.

Disagree. 120Hz only matters for heavy blu-ray users and DirecTV HD subscribers. If you're not displaying 24p content then it's completely worthless.

quaint bucket
Nov 29, 2007

fahrvergnugen posted:

Disagree. 120Hz only matters for heavy blu-ray users and DirecTV HD subscribers. If you're not displaying 24p content then it's completely worthless.

Welp, you're right. http://www.hdtvprofessor.com/HDTVAlmanac/?p=477

Guess I was wrong, after all!

e: was the rest of the post pretty accurate or am I missing something?

quaint bucket fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Sep 29, 2010

Defghanistan
Feb 9, 2010

2base2furious
Hi TV goons,

Going to try to avoid breaking any forums rules/sounding retarded but after an hour of googling and ctrl+f searching HDTV forums I still have nothing.

I own a 67" Samsung HL67A750, 1080p LED LCD projection TV. It has been great aside from two issues:

1.) one of my HDMI ports looks like the old scrambled cable channels, all fuzzy and crappy and distinctly green. I don't really care too much. Swapping an HDMI cable isn't going to kill me.

2.) The real problem: The screen appears to do this flickering thing when using HDMI (read: all the time. TV/PS3/PC are all HDMI). Like picture a nice bright vivid picture, and then imagine the entire screen at once going duller, more yellow, less vivid. It stays that way for a few seconds then goes back. This happens off and on and I don't know what to do about it.

The TV is out of warranty unfortunately. Is there any chance this could be a setting in the TV somewhere or a firmware issue?

Any help you could provide would be great, I feel like this has rendered the TV near unwatchable.

RyceCube
Dec 22, 2003
Purchased a Samsung 40" 530 series for use as an HDTV for my PC. I have a GTX 460 with a display port -> HDMI Converter, and have HDMI hooked up to the HDTV. It seems a little blurry, in comparison to just using VGA. It's in 1920x1080 resolution, but unless i select "fit" on the HDTV options, it overextends the viewing area.

Is there anyway to solve this problem / fix the blurriness?

quaint bucket
Nov 29, 2007

I got bored and did some reading re: [url=
http://reviews.cnet.com/plasma-burn-in-seven-things-you-need-to-know/]plasmas and burn-ins[/url].

So my understanding is, plasma is ok these days and boardcasters are aware and making effort to prevent burn-ins/image retentions for plasma owners.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

quaint bucket posted:

I got bored and did some reading re: [url=
http://reviews.cnet.com/plasma-burn-in-seven-things-you-need-to-know/]plasmas and burn-ins[/url].

So my understanding is, plasma is ok these days and boardcasters are aware and making effort to prevent burn-ins/image retentions for plasma owners.

Here's some more info.

http://hdguru.com/plasma-tv-burn-in-fact-or-myth/826/

quaint bucket
Nov 29, 2007

Thermopyle posted:

Here's some more info.

http://hdguru.com/plasma-tv-burn-in-fact-or-myth/826/

Well, that finally clear things up for me but one question tho, won't the state of the room be a factor? Like a well lit room?

fahrvergnugen
Nov 27, 2003

Intergalactic proton-powered electrical tentacled REFRIGERATOR OF DOOM.

quaint bucket posted:

Welp, you're right. http://www.hdtvprofessor.com/HDTVAlmanac/?p=477

Guess I was wrong, after all!

e: was the rest of the post pretty accurate or am I missing something?

More or less. The OP in this thread is so ancient at this point as to be a liability, so I would say you're doing pretty good!

quaker69
Jul 3, 2004

Four measures of cheap Vodka combined with a bottle of Bawls
Lipstick Apathy

The pj350 looks significantly better. Not only that, as far as leds go, the 5400 isnt anything amazing.

With that in mind you could also get the 50" for less than the led, or its bigger brother the pk550 if you wanted 1080p

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89
Feb 24, 2006

#worldchamps
I realize these days you can get a Panasonic 50G25 for $1100 easy...but what would an LCD equivalent be for that price range?

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