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Otik
Apr 5, 2005

Psycho log baby
I'm this close to pulling the trigger on a Samsung LE37D585K (a regional variant of the LE37D580) - it is just within my budget, and sounds great based on the features.

Anyone have any advice?

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ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
I bought a Sharp LC-32D59u tonight, and managed to get my last-century tech hooked up to it - DVD player running a white/red/yellow RCA cable as PB/PR/Y and a regular white/red RCA stereo cable running as itself, all running to Component 6 on the TV; plus my PS2 using its weird-Sony-thing - to RCA white/red/yellow into the single AV input on the back of the TV.

DVDs show up fine. I'm going to need to fine-tune the "user" display mode, but it's basically good. The PS2 though, while it runs just fine (and sounds good), has blue waffle-pattern vertical stripes that appear as the TV warms up. They're annoying and distracting - is there any way to get rid of them? I know it's not the AV input on the TV, switching things around so the DVD player goes through that doesn't result in anything like those blue stripes. Could it just be the old PS2 cable? Are there alternate designs of PS2 cable that pipe through a different TV input (e.g. PB/PR/Y + RCA stereo, or HDMI)?

movax
Aug 30, 2008

ShaneB posted:

Since I watch a lot of streaming netflix content, I'm concerned about reading things like this in reviews:

"Essentially the 120Hz judder reduction feature is not adjustable in the D6000. The ensuing picture from the D6000 has a soap opera effect without the depth created by natural background blur."

Found on a review for the Samsung UN46D6000: http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/samsung-lcd-tv/samsung-un46d6000.html

With all this judder reduction/120-240hz stuff out there, I'm pretty nervous about getting a set that will make my netflix or SDTV viewing look like video. How can I be sure a set won't have these issues?

That review is wrong, if you read the manual for that TV, it lists all the options:

quote:

Auto Motion Plus (Off / Clear / Standard / Smooth / Custom / Demo):
Removes blur and judder from scenes with large amounts of rapid movement
to provide a clearer picture.

- The info screen on your TV displays the resolution and frequency of the
incoming video signal (60 Hz). This displayed frequency is not the frequency
of the picture the TV is displaying when you have Auto Motion Plus on.

- If noise occurs on the screen, please set Auto Motion Plus to Off. If you
set Auto Motion Plus to Custom, you can control Blur Reduction and
Judder Reduction manually and use Reset to reset both to their default
settings.
- If you set Auto Motion Plus to Demo, you can compare the difference
between a picture with Auto Motion Plus on and Auto Motion Plus off.

In fact, this TV has pretty nice options to tweak compared to some models I've seen.

The Gunslinger
Jul 24, 2004

Do not forget the face of your father.
Fun Shoe

ShaneB posted:

Since I watch a lot of streaming netflix content, I'm concerned about reading things like this in reviews:

"Essentially the 120Hz judder reduction feature is not adjustable in the D6000. The ensuing picture from the D6000 has a soap opera effect without the depth created by natural background blur."

Found on a review for the Samsung UN46D6000: http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/samsung-lcd-tv/samsung-un46d6000.html

With all this judder reduction/120-240hz stuff out there, I'm pretty nervous about getting a set that will make my netflix or SDTV viewing look like video. How can I be sure a set won't have these issues?

That review is incorrect, a friend of mine owns that TV and turning off that feature is one of the first things he did. Also, is it just me or do they hire models to read off a teleprompter for their reviews?

ShaneB
Oct 21, 2002


The Gunslinger posted:

That review is incorrect, a friend of mine owns that TV and turning off that feature is one of the first things he did. Also, is it just me or do they hire models to read off a teleprompter for their reviews?

I was confused because they explicitly say you CAN do it for HD content but SD content does not seem to allow for it. This is my area of consternation.

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

ShaneB posted:

Since I watch a lot of streaming netflix content, I'm concerned about reading things like this in reviews:

"Essentially the 120Hz judder reduction feature is not adjustable in the D6000. The ensuing picture from the D6000 has a soap opera effect without the depth created by natural background blur."

Found on a review for the Samsung UN46D6000: http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/samsung-lcd-tv/samsung-un46d6000.html

With all this judder reduction/120-240hz stuff out there, I'm pretty nervous about getting a set that will make my netflix or SDTV viewing look like video. How can I be sure a set won't have these issues?

So that's what people call it! My dad's visio does the same exact thing when he tries to show off his new blu ray purchases/rentals but it looks like horseshit and there's no option to turn it off either. I just was saying it "looks like 60fps"

AndrewP
Apr 21, 2010

GreenBuckanneer posted:

I just was saying it "looks like 60fps"

That's what I thought too. But I've noticed it never is a constant 60 fps - it seems to waiver back and forth every few seconds. I can't get anyone else to notice what I'm talkin about when I try to point it out to people though.

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

AndrewP posted:

That's what I thought too. But I've noticed it never is a constant 60 fps - it seems to waiver back and forth every few seconds. I can't get anyone else to notice what I'm talkin about when I try to point it out to people though.

Yeah my dad doesn't notice it either. I try to describe it to him and he doesn't seem to get it.

LionYeti
Oct 11, 2008


I'm currently at my parents house and they have an old Mistubishi WS series TV i'm trying to get my xbox 360 to show up on it through component and it will not appear at all. Any tips and yes the cables are in tight and the switch is flipped to hdtv

Fleedar
Aug 29, 2002
RARRUGHH!!
Lipstick Apathy

blakout posted:

I'm currently at my parents house and they have an old Mistubishi WS series TV i'm trying to get my xbox 360 to show up on it through component and it will not appear at all. Any tips and yes the cables are in tight and the switch is flipped to hdtv

It might be outputting a video mode that the TV can't display. Try turning on the system on with the controller and holding the Y button and the right trigger to restore the video settings to their defaults.

spasticColon
Sep 22, 2004

In loving memory of Donald Pleasance
Will a 32" 1080p HDTV look noticeably better than one that is only 720p? I ask this because most of the HDTV sets I see online and at Wal-Mart are only 720p yet I don't really see a difference side by side viewing of a 1080p set with the same screen size in Wal-Mart. I would be using the set for video games and general TV viewing with some Netflix.

Edit: The viewing distance would be 6 to 8 feet from the set if that's important.

spasticColon fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Oct 19, 2011

Coffee Wolf
Oct 12, 2007

Mmmmm Banana

spasticColon posted:

Will a 32" 1080p HDTV look noticeably better than one that is only 720p? I ask this because most of the HDTV sets I see online and at Wal-Mart are only 720p yet I don't really see a difference side by side viewing of a 1080p set with the same screen size in Wal-Mart. I would be using the set for video games and general TV viewing with some Netflix.

Edit: The viewing distance would be 6 to 8 feet from the set if that's important.

If your local Walmart is showing the same video as all of them near me are showing, pay particular attention during the hockey and football scenes. I was trying my hardest to see if I could tell a difference (45"-50" range) and I could see things on the 720 vs 1080 & 60hz vs 120hz that I know would've bugged me as I am just a pain in the rear end like that. The hockey scenes are what really nailed it for me, personally, and my wife saw the difference once I pointed it out.
Basically, you should look until you are happy especially if you'll be the one paying for it.

spasticColon
Sep 22, 2004

In loving memory of Donald Pleasance

Coffee Wolf posted:

If your local Walmart is showing the same video as all of them near me are showing, pay particular attention during the hockey and football scenes. I was trying my hardest to see if I could tell a difference (45"-50" range) and I could see things on the 720 vs 1080 & 60hz vs 120hz that I know would've bugged me as I am just a pain in the rear end like that. The hockey scenes are what really nailed it for me, personally, and my wife saw the difference once I pointed it out.
Basically, you should look until you are happy especially if you'll be the one paying for it.

I wouldn't watch sports on it but the one 32" set that caught my eye in particular after looking closely at it and the other 32" sets on display was this one:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Samsung-UN32D4003/16784343

To me the colors looked more vibrant and the picture actually looked sharper to me than a Vizio 1080p 32" set they have.

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
The lone Sony 1080p set mixed in with half-a-dozen 720p sets in the 32" section at my local Futureshop was very different looking. Much sharper, much higher contrast, just all-around better-looking. For about $550 compared to $350-$400 for the 720p sets. No Vizios in that display, I can't speak to that comparison.

LionYeti
Oct 11, 2008


Fleedar posted:

It might be outputting a video mode that the TV can't display. Try turning on the system on with the controller and holding the Y button and the right trigger to restore the video settings to their defaults.

its now only at 480p the tv can support up to 1080i what in the gently caress is happening?

Dango Bango
Jul 26, 2007

edit: I can't read.

Dango Bango fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Oct 21, 2011

urseus
Apr 30, 2002

~*My Little Kony*~
I just bought a samsung series 7 55

Despite being told plasma is the better picture etc so much of the time, this LED just had the most jaw dropping and stunning picture I had seen. I don't know if it just means what I feel is a good picture is different to the norm, but I'm loving it. Return of the jedi is so clear, I still say " drat that's a good picture".

I found some settings online that were to make the picture even better, but they all involved turning off the motion components and changing all the hues and colours, making the end result this pale flat picture. Again, I think what I feel is a sharp picture must be different to the experts, but the regular bright slightly tweaked settings make the picture amazingly clear.

The point I guess is to really go on what picture quality you like in the store. I would have been really unhappy with something else I think. Even though I wasn't really impressed with LED at the start, this TV is awesome.

movax
Aug 30, 2008

blakout posted:

its now only at 480p the tv can support up to 1080i what in the gently caress is happening?

The WS-xxxxx can definitely do 1080i, but perhaps only on certain inputs. On my WS-65511, there are 3 component inputs: 2 are only at 480p, but one is labeled "DTV" and will do either 480p or 1080i, nothing else. I have my receiver connected to that and switch in a 360, NMT at 1080i and a GC at 480p, no issues.

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

I'm surprised there was never a class action lawsuit over those early Mitsubishis, they supported one HD resolution and displayed it at 540.

foodfight
Feb 10, 2009
Quick question. Is it worth it to get one of the internet capable tvs to stream netflix and stuff or should I get a cheaper tv with a roku box? I'm looking at these two tvs in particular:

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIERA-TC-L32E3-32-Inch-1080p/dp/B004M8SBG6/ref=lh_ni_t

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-NSX-32GT1-32-Inch-Featuring-Google/dp/B004BBA6B2/ref=sr_1_2?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1319221219&sr=1-2

My main concern is that something like the google tv is a flash in the pan and its really not going to have support past a year or two.

SRQ
Nov 9, 2009


So our POS (Well, it wasn't when we bought it...) DLP exploded, my DAD, who bought it, doesn't want to screw around with non-working HDMI and lamp replacement anymore and wants a new TV in the 50 inch range.
In short: Recommend me a TV in the 50 inch please, between 1 and $2000.

Jack Black
Nov 6, 2007
Alright, a cherries jubilee and that's it.

SRQ posted:

So our POS (Well, it wasn't when we bought it...) DLP exploded, my DAD, who bought it, doesn't want to screw around with non-working HDMI and lamp replacement anymore and wants a new TV in the 50 inch range.
In short: Recommend me a TV in the 50 inch please, between 1 and $2000.

Hey good thing you did any work yourself, and have anything specific to offer to let ppl give you reccs. Gotta love it.

SRQ
Nov 9, 2009


50 inches and between 1 and two grand isn't enough? It doesn't really matter beyond that as far as we are concerned.

C2C - 2.0
May 14, 2006

Dubs In The Key Of Life


Lipstick Apathy

SRQ posted:

So our POS (Well, it wasn't when we bought it...) DLP exploded, my DAD, who bought it, doesn't want to screw around with non-working HDMI and lamp replacement anymore and wants a new TV in the 50 inch range.
In short: Recommend me a TV in the 50 inch please, between 1 and $2000.

Vizio XVT553SV

Lockback
Sep 2, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.
I like my LG 55lw5600.

Go to Best Buy without your credit card and find screens you like and write down their model number. Get a couple ideas and come back with what you think.

Jay Carney
Mar 23, 2007

If you do that you will die on the toilet.
Moving into a new place...looking for an HDTV for up to $700. I don't play videogames, though I am open to starting (the commercials look so cool!) and I'm looking for something I could use easily in conjunction with my mac.

I'm not really a size freak, but bigger is always nice I guess. I think I'm looking for quality (and 1080p) more than anything.

Thanks!

Dango Bango
Jul 26, 2007

C2C - 2.0 posted:

Vizio XVT553SV

Gonna have to second this recommendation. I'm absolutely in love with mine.

AndrewP
Apr 21, 2010

C2C - 2.0 posted:

Vizio XVT553SV

Hear, hear. I have the 47 inch 3D version but I love it. Can't speak on the Vizio edge-lit "razor" ones though.

Saved me some money too.

MrFurious
Dec 11, 2003
THINKS HE IS BEST AT DOGS (is actually worst at dogs!!!)
Need some help picking out a new TV, but I am completely out of touch with A/V these days. Moving into a new apartment next week in a totally new place. We donated our old one to a local charity so we'll be replacing it in the next couple of weeks once we get settled, but I need help picking one out. Here are my requirements:

  • Prefer to spend less than $800, but will stretch for a truly exceptional deal
  • Not interested in 3D
  • Viewing distance of 6-8 feet
  • Would eventually like to make this part of an HTPC setup
  • Will probably upgrade this with a more ambitious TV in 1-2 years as part of a home theater setup
  • Room will likely be sunny, so I'd like good contrast and visibility in relatively high light conditions

I see that Amazon has a deal right now for the LG 32LK450 but I still need to research this. Reviews look good initially.

Some viewing calculators indicate that I should have a much, much larger TV for 1080p resolution, so we're going to the store tomorrow to see how we feel about that. In the meantime can someone offer me some advice on features or problems to be aware of with the TV above, or recommend an alternative?

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

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CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




6-8 feet away from a 32" tv will be underwhelming. 37" should be your bare minimum, I sit about 8 feet from my 42" and I wouldn't mind a larger screen.

AndrewP
Apr 21, 2010

I dunno. Why buy a TV now that you're planning on upgrading in a few years? Just get a great TV now and build around it. Unless you were planning on moving this one to the bedroom or something.

Either way, as Lovie :unsmith: said, 32" is tiny. Look for a 42" or something. You can get a very capable one in your price range. Hell, I'd look at a 47" or something. You don't want TOO big obviously, but it seems like what looks like a good size now will look pretty small in a few months.

duckfarts
Jul 2, 2010

~ shameful ~





Soiled Meat
I have exactly the same response as these goons; have a 42", sit about 8 feet away, and it's good but could stand to be bigger, like 48"ish.

The Gunslinger
Jul 24, 2004

Do not forget the face of your father.
Fun Shoe
I made the 32" mistake years ago, you'll just end up replacing it with a larger one in a few years so buy something bigger. I'm quite happy with a 42" at 7-8 feet, sure it could be bigger but I'm never unhappy with it like I was with the 32".

MrFurious
Dec 11, 2003
THINKS HE IS BEST AT DOGS (is actually worst at dogs!!!)
Did some more homework. The plan is that this TV probably would (or would have) gone to another room in the future once we got into a house, hence we're not looking to buy a top of the line TV right now, just something that will last a long time and allow me to try out a HTPC setup and see how it works.

That said, we did some more shopping and spent the night looking at TVs in store.
We narrowed it down to the LG 47LK520 LCD and the Panasonic TC-P50S30 Plasma. Given the sunny room it seems like the LCD will have a brighter screen, but I really want the true black of a plasma. These aren't windows I can shade in this new apartment, it's a sliding glass door, just not sure how direct.

The thing that concerns me about the Panasonic is a fair number of complaints regarding early failure. Is the current recommendation to spring for the extended warranty?

Dango Bango
Jul 26, 2007

Just thought I'd let you guys know, Amazon's DOTD is The Panasonic VIERA TC-L42E30 42-Inch 1080p 120Hz LED HDTV for $549. I have no experience with this TV, but I've heard that Viera's are pretty good.

err
Apr 11, 2005

millardo72 posted:

Just thought I'd let you guys know, Amazon's DOTD is The Panasonic VIERA TC-L42E30 42-Inch 1080p 120Hz LED HDTV for $549. I have no experience with this TV, but I've heard that Viera's are pretty good.

I picked one up, probably one of the cheaper 120hz's that will hit this month during Black Friday. Reviews were okay, nothing special. I just couldn't wait for BF as last year's deals sucked pretty hard.

Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Who you really are is worth looking into.
Is there any reason I shouldn't get a Panasonic TC-P55VT30? I found it on Amazon's Warehouse Deals site, they have 'Used - Like New' sets for $400 under retail that qualify for Amazon Prime. I love buying things used, but big purchases like this can be scary. There's a year warranty for only $45 though...

Capnbigboobies
Dec 2, 2004
Well I have had my Panasonic VIERA TC-P50GT30 long enough to feel like I can say something about it. I read a LOT of poo poo on AVS forum and it got me super paranoid about this tv, but I bought it anyways. As I said before I was unhappy about my LG 47LW5600.

The dudes on AVS forum seem to complain about the same stuff, here is a list and how I feel about them. This should pretty much apply to the VT30 and ST30.

Buzzing:
Yes this tv buzzes, but it is extremely quiet. Only with everything off and you are sitting VERY close will you hear it.

Floating brightness:
This is a huge deal on AVS forum and in reality its a very small issue. Pretty much sometimes you will notice the set change brightness levels to improve the picture. With some movies it is noticeable but its nothing to get bent out of shape about. Panasonic has a fix as well, you just need to call them. I will eventually get around to calling them, but for now it does not bother me.

Image retention:
The guys on AVS forums are pretty much retards. They are doing bizarre stuff like instead of watching the tv, they play a bunch of slides for 100 hours to "break it in evenly." Some even believe that if you watch tv instead of doing the slides you have pretty much ruined the tv and it wont work right with the "D-nice settings." They all nutt-hug some guy named D-nice. Dont listen to this dunce, just use common sense.

I set my brightness and contrast around 50 and am using the tv as normal. I have played Fallout New Vegas for up to 3 hours at a time. Zero image retention. I am going to eventually increase the bightness/contrast setting, but for now I am just playing it safe. You likely dont even need to do this. Just enjoy the drat tv and ignore the spergs on AVS.

In general:
I have noticed that sometimes blacks can have a slight green tinge. I only really notice it close up to the tv. Other than that the picture is pretty drat good. Movies also look great at 1080p at 24hz. I am very happy with this tv.

Debrain
Jul 11, 2006
When I grow up Im going to be the Bling Bling King.

Capnbigboobies posted:

Floating brightness:
This is a huge deal on AVS forum and in reality its a very small issue. Pretty much sometimes you will notice the set change brightness levels to improve the picture. With some movies it is noticeable but its nothing to get bent out of shape about. Panasonic has a fix as well, you just need to call them. I will eventually get around to calling them, but for now it does not bother me.

AVS forums were saying that the TV's made after August have fixed this problem.

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Capnbigboobies
Dec 2, 2004

Debrain posted:

AVS forums were saying that the TV's made after August have fixed this problem.

Yeah I got my tv a few weeks ago from Amazon. It was made in april. So more than likely you will still get a pre August model if you buy anytime soon.

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