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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:My Panasonic TC-P42G25 seems to have bit the dust. No picture. The power LED started blinking 4 times for a bit then went to 1 and now blinks 10 times. I've unplugged everything. Left it off four a few hours. Tried different outlets on the surge protector, tried different outlet. They don't make high end 42" this year. The UT50 AFAIK comes in 42" and has a good panel but is lacking a lot of the features of the ST50 and above. The ST30 is last year's version and came in 42" if you can somehow find one of those otherwise if you want to go bigger, the ST50 is supposed to be even better. I have a 42" ST30 and it's an incredible TV. Panasonic plasma is still king in my book.
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What is that 'looks like I'm watching the film from the the movie set' feature called? I was watching a Samsung TV at my friends house that suffered from it and was driving me insane.
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Jul 1, 2012 18:15
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The Cosby Mysteries posted:What is that 'looks like I'm watching the film from the the movie set' feature called? I was watching a Samsung TV at my friends house that suffered from it and was driving me insane. It's covered in the FAQ thread, but I think you're talking about frame interpolation or "motion blur." I just looked it up because my friend was complaining about it on his TV; just turn the feature off and it goes back to a classic cinematic look.
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Yeah, each brand has their own name for it. At it's heart it's "interpolation" which is the smoothing between frames. We're used to a cinematic look having 24 frames per second, and a Sitcom or Soap Opera having 30 frames per second. This "interpolation" for all intents and purposes takes 24 frames per second and tries to add extra information between those frames which makes it seem like the content you're used to being "cinematic" now looks like a "soap opera." TruMotion, CineMotion, Auto Motion, AMP...those are all names for it. They are often mislabeled or coupled with the "120Hz" feature on lots of marketing stickers and labels. They are not the same. 120Hz is the framerate of the tv and is NOT changeable. The motion interpolation poo poo is a tacky gimmick that is able to be turned off in the options menus.
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BonoMan posted:Yeah, each brand has their own name for it. At it's heart it's "interpolation" which is the smoothing between frames. We're used to a cinematic look having 24 frames per second, and a Sitcom or Soap Opera having 30 frames per second. This is the most terrible feature ever. Thanks for clearing this up.
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I find that phenomenon kind of psychologically fascinating. It makes things look like you're really there instead of watching through a lens, so in theory it should be better / more realistic. But we're so used to how film looks that the increased clarity comes off as fake and amateurish. I kinda wonder if we'll be fudging recordings to have the properties of film decades after it's fallen out of use or if kids growing up with higher resolutions and frame rates will get used to it. But anyway thought experiments aside I agree, screw that feature for anything except live sports. It looks like rear end.
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Lt. Tanaka posted:This is the most terrible feature ever. Thanks for clearing this up. No problem. I also just saw where I said 120Hz was the framerate...it's the refresh rate. Whoops!
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ScooterMcTiny posted:How bad is the glare on the newer Plasmas? I've only had LCDs before, but am looking at this 50"er - http://www.amazon.com/LG-50PA6500-50-inch-1080p-Plasma/dp/B006Z9W6AW - for the new house, but our living room gets a fair bit of light during the day. Will I have issues with it or are they more like Apple Cinema Displays where the glare isn't really that bad?
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What's the difference between buying a Smart TV versus having a seperate device for blu-ray/streaming? I like the idea of everything being built into the TV, but I don't know what to consider.
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just keep scrolling posted:What's the difference between buying a Smart TV versus having a seperate device for blu-ray/streaming? I like the idea of everything being built into the TV, but I don't know what to consider. Not a whole lot. SmartTV basically includes the same sort of applications you'd find in a Smart Blu-Ray player (minus actual Blu-Ray playback of course). But honestly..in my own limited personal experience both SmartTVs and Smart Blu-Ray players are clunky and lovely and slow compared to a tiny hockey puck sized standalone box like a Roku. Things may have improved over the past year, but I'd urge you to try those UI's in the store if possible. I hate them.
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BonoMan posted:Not a whole lot. SmartTV basically includes the same sort of applications you'd find in a Smart Blu-Ray player (minus actual Blu-Ray playback of course). Wait, so they don't make Smart TV's with blu-ray players integrated in? I was hoping I could "just" buy a TV and simplify things, and not have wires going everywhere, but that's not a big deal. I basically want something to watch Breaking Bad and DVD movies and Youtube with my roommates. My mind is more on the content than on the screen. It would be cool if it had that shiny new high sharpness/contrast look, but I'm not at all an enthusiast (no offense to people who are) or into turning picture quality into a pissing contest or anything, I'm just kind of ambivalent - only looking for 30-40 inches anyway. I do understand from the OP that there's stuff to watch out for regarding quality like downscaling, and that there might be even more now that the OP is old, but in general the most important things to me are the online streaming options. What's the best route to go if I'm willing to spend maybe $300-$400 and use craigslist? Would I get a better deal and better TV if I just bought seperate devices for each function? Happy Thread fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Jul 4, 2012 |
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Jul 4, 2012 19:32
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just keep scrolling posted:Wait, so they don't make Smart TV's with blu-ray players integrated in? I was hoping I could "just" buy a TV and simplify things, and not have wires going everywhere, but that's not a big deal. No you're not really going to find a TV with a Blu-Ray player built in. And at 3-400 you aren't getting a smart tv at all anyway (even on craigslist). Why do you want to use Craigslist anyway? Just buy a 40" TCL + Blu-Ray player with smart features from Amazon for around $400.
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I ended up getting the Samsung UN50EH6000 on sale for $900 at Costco, after a horrible experience attempting to buy the exact same unit from Amazon for more money (would recommend never buying a television from Amazon after that). It's a majestic television, watching baseball is a transcendent experience, and I didn't pay for any smart or 3D poo poo that I was never going to use. Two thumbs up for Costco and this unit!
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Is the Panasonic U50 a good plasma TV? I don't need 3D, or smart TV since all my electronics I'd plug in do the same stuff. My only concern is the picture quality, and since it is their low rung set, I was wondering if there is a real difference between it and one of the more advanced sets like the ST50.
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I'm assuming the U50 is the non 3d version of the UT50? The UT50 differs a bit from the ST50. First, it doesn't have an Infinite Black Pro panel. It has last year's G15, not this year's G15 NeoPlasma. The second area is that anything lower than the ST50 doesn't have the anti-glare filter. So, in the end, the blacks and contrast isn't going to be quite as good and it will have more reflections on the screen if you use with in an area with ambient light.
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I have an LG 42LE5300. I was playing some Xbox and there was a lightning strike nearby. The power didn't go out, but the Xbox and the TV went out but remained powered up. I turned off the power strip they were plugged in to and then turned it back on after a couple minutes. I then powered up the devices. Here are the problems I can see with the TV. - No audio from the speakers. I have a headphone jack on the side of the tv, and audio works through it. I don't have any other equipment to test any of the other audio outputs. - On screen menu and the LG logo that bounces around the screen do not show up on the top third of the screen. - Cable box is connected through HDMI. When I turn the TV to HDMI mode, it gets the "No Signal" deal. I've tried moving the HDMI to a different connection and nothing changes. I don't have any other HDMI equipment to test, so I'm not sure the problem isn't in the cable box itself. So, do people still take TV's in for repair? I found a TV repair shop near me on Google Maps and they have the LG logo on their site. What am I looking at as far as a bill might be? I'd call them but they're not open until Monday.
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I'm currently torn between two sets. One is the Panasonic VIERA TC-L42E50, which I've seen some people say they have and are pleased with. This is $600 on Amazon right now. I like the price, the number of pleased reviews it has, and the potential for a bright screen without much glare. The other is the LG 50PA5500, which is currently at Best Buy for $650. It's larger and a plasma, which I hear will offer better black levels. However, I am worried about glare. The TV would never receive direct light from outside but the living room area can be bright in the middle of the day. I'm also curious about weight - just how heavy is the plasma going to be? I have a crappy TV stand that has had no problem holding my current 40" LCD, but I hear that plasmas are up to twice as heavy. If that's the case I'm not sure my stand will hold it.
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gently caress me sideways. Pulled the trigger on the ST50. I've been playing XBox360 on a 24 inch CTR this entire cycle, and for the last year I've been using a 10 inch tv for pretty much everything not computer related. It's going to be very different around here after Thursday...
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Yawgmoft posted:gently caress me sideways. Pulled the trigger on the ST50. I've been playing XBox360 on a 24 inch CTR this entire cycle, and for the last year I've been using a 10 inch tv for pretty much everything not computer related. It's going to be very different around here after Thursday... You won't regret it. I picked up my ST50 two days ago and its amazing. Dark movies like ALIEN or Children of Men really look great in regards to the blacks. Check out the owner thread on AVSforum or search for the cnet picture settings if you want to optimize it.
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My ST50 has ruined me for watching stuff at other people's houses. Not only do their 40" TVs seem small next to the 55", they just all look so washed out now.
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Tentacle Party posted:You won't regret it. I picked up my ST50 two days ago and its amazing. Dark movies like ALIEN or Children of Men really look great in regards to the blacks. About to grab that model or the UT50, but the image burn-in worries me. It's a worry with all plasmas though, I guess. How have you guys fared with burn-in and image retention?
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I've only seen IR twice. Once was the netflix logo when I was screwing around in the netflix menus for a solid few minutes just browsing stuff. The second time was pillarboxing IR when I was watching 4:3 material for a prolonged period without using the gray bars. Both instances were only noticeable on a gray background and both cleared up within a minute or two. I really haven't gamed much on the TV though so I can't comment from that perspective.
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I grabbed the 50" because a) the space of the place I live and the next place I'll live and b) room to move up when I eventually replace it. The 55" and 60" looked really great though.
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Pork Fat posted:About to grab that model or the UT50, but the image burn-in worries me. It's a worry with all plasmas though, I guess. How have you guys fared with burn-in and image retention? I'm yet to see it even after playing FIFA for a couple of hours. I haven't burned it in either, just put it on and enjoy. If you can afford the step up from the UT to the ST, I highly reccommend it. Its worth it just for the filter and wifi.
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I really apologise if this has been asked before, but a 306-page thread is a little daunting. My current TV has started to develop a defect where it has a purple line running down the left side of the screen for a while when I turn it on, which I've heard is a problem that only gets worse and can't really be repaired due to replacement panels not existing for 3-and-a-half-year-old TVs, so I'm looking for something new. Would anyone here be able to tell me whether or not Samsung's 40" ES6700 model is worth getting over the cheaper 40" ES6200 model (or if there is anything superior in a similar price range)? I'd really appreciate some assistance with this.
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Pork Fat posted:About to grab that model or the UT50, but the image burn-in worries me. It's a worry with all plasmas though, I guess. How have you guys fared with burn-in and image retention? I have an ST30 from last year and I play games all the time on it, no burn in or IR to speak of. A buddy of mine has an LG plasma that gets some light IR once in awhile but he really abuses the thing (4 hour sessions of CoD) and its usually gone in a minute of watching something.
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I ordered a 65" GT50 a week or so ago and it arrived damaged. What a disappointment. I refused shipment on it and newegg refunded me the money so I went back to buy it again and the price dropped $100. I guess that's fine, my theater isn't quite ready for it anyway. I can't wait to see it in action.
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So I just purchased a 32" Samsung 1080p television for my room (on sale at Futureshop for $100 off, whoo), and found that it came with that SmartTV thing. While being able to watch Netflix on it is neat and all, is there any other purpose to this or should I just ignore it?
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I guess I'm another "full speed ahead!" vote for the ST50. Absolutely stunning. I set it up yesterday and watched KFP2, Tangled, Sleeping Beauty, and Captain America. Absolutely gorgeous on all fronts. At first, after so many people said they had gotten the larger ones, I was wondering whether or not I had made a mistake going with the 50". Man, they sure do look bigger in your house! The drat thing takes up the entire width of my table and blocks half my room, any larger and I'd fear death by suffocation. Of course I am in a NYC apartment so...
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Does anyone have tips for making my 55" ST30 more vibrant? I want something in between realistic colors with deep blacks and bright vivid popping colors. I notice with reasonable "neutral" settings the whites are a little dull and colors are lacking sometimes. Even with brightness and contrast up more than usual setups.
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So I'm looking to get a TV that will be used a lot for watching sports and playing PS3. Does anyone have any opinions on the Sony BX450? http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL46BX450-46-Inch-1080p/dp/B006U1VG5Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342268564&sr=8-1&keywords=sony+46bx450 Would that TV be fine or would I have any issues? I've had a Sony 46v4100 for a while and liked it and never had any issues or complaints. I also had someone recommend the Samsung U46EH6000 which is 120hz. It's about $90 more but is it worth it over the BX450? http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN46E...keywords=eh6000 Jota fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Jul 14, 2012 |
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Docjowles posted:I'll shill again for the 47" Panasonic LED from Amazon. The price keeps bouncing around, but right now it's back down to $750 and seems like kind of a steal at that point: http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIERA-TC-L47E50-47-Inch-LED-LCD/dp/B00752RABI I just bought this TV for $779 from Best Buy - they're price matching Amazon through tomorrow. My 3.5 year old Samsung LN40A650 started having red/green pixelated noise appearing through the picture but not on the TV's internal menus. I replaced the TCOM board and the LVDS cable without success, except for a two week period where the issue appeared to be resolved. Anyone have any ideas? If I can replace another $50 board to get this working again, it would be nice to have. The new Panasonic is great! Beautiful picture on that IPS panel with plenty of inputs. One question - the base seems to want to swivel, but is locked in place by that piece of metal through the hole in the bracket you attach. Is there any way to unlock that?
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Hi thread, I'm looking for a new tv for my parents. Their budget is $500 and they want a minimum screen size of 40". They also want to be able to stream movies and stuff from the Internet, and some quick Googling shows that they can do it with the DVR box they have sitting around (apparently the cable company gave it to them but since their current tv is too old they said they will install it once they get a new one). Currently I'm looking at these 2 tvs from newegg. Toshiba 40" 1080p 60Hz LCD HDTV 40E220U at $439 Sceptre 40" 1080p LCD HDTV X408BV-FHD at $424 They don't really have a brand loyalty, they just want a good tv at a decent price.
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Not the best TV in the world, but Woot has a refurbished 42" Sanyo 1080p LCD 60Hz TV for sale today....for $295 (that includes shipping). I imagine it'll be sold out soon. http://www.woot.com/offers/sanyo-42-1080p-lcd-hdtv-1
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I'm looking for a 42" for PS3 and normal viewing activities. Budget $600 max I'd say, maybe a little bit more if it's worth it. I really like my parents' Sony Bravia that they purchased years ago - I'm not sure what the model is though. I'll try to find out. A random question - do you guys generally advise against buying used TVs on say, Craigslist or whatever? I don't need the latest or greatest by any stretch, and I'm thinking I may get more bang for my buck buying used, I'm just not sure what the best outlets are for that.
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Luceo posted:The new Panasonic is great! Beautiful picture on that IPS panel with plenty of inputs. One question - the base seems to want to swivel, but is locked in place by that piece of metal through the hole in the bracket you attach. Is there any way to unlock that? Do you find it washes out on dark colours when looking diagonally across the screen? I'm pretty happy with my budget 42" Panasonic (especially for ~$350) but the washout is much more noticeable than on most sets - I guess this is just how IPS panels are (my PC monitor does the same thing)
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Looking at upgrading my PC display situation and considering an HDTV over a smaller monitor. I live in Canada and am wondering if there is a best place or time to get a deal. I'm not in any hurry and might just wait for Boxing Day this year unless I find something I think is really worth getting before then.
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Are full-array local dimming LED panels really worth it? Do they have significantly better black levels than edge-lit LED TVs? I've been hoping those would become more common and cheaper, but I'm starting to wonder if they'll ever actually become mainstream and cheap, when the average consumer has no idea the difference between full-array and edge lit...
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Alrighty, let me see if I have his figured out... I'm researching the line of Panasonic plasma sets, and from high end to entry level, the order goes like this: VT -> GT -> ST -> UT Is that pretty much it? I'm mostly concerned about gaming on a 360 at this point, which line would be considered the sweet spot at the 50 inch level? (VTs are only available at 55 and up, but I'm still still considering it) Also, are there any other brands/technologies that can compete? Looking to keep it under $1500. neato burrito fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Jul 18, 2012 |
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I'm looking for a 55 or 60 inch TV in the $1,500 rage. Do I really need to worry about refresh rates? Are there any go-to options in this size and price point? I'm mostly interested in the TV for watching baseball, the olympics and breaking bad.
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