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bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


neato burrito posted:

Alrighty, let me see if I have his figured out... I'm researching the line of Panasonic plasma sets, and from high end to entry level, the order goes like this: VT -> GT -> ST -> UT

Is that pretty much it? I'm mostly concerned about gaming on a 360 at this point, which line would be considered the sweet spot at the 50 inch level? (VTs are only available at 55 and up, but I'm still still considering it)

Also, are there any other brands/technologies that can compete? Looking to keep it under $1500.

Correct, that's the order of the sets.

ST is considered the sweet spot, especially if you are going to get it calibrated.

VT, GT, and ST all use the same panel with the VT and GT having more shades of grey processing, but I don't even think they've been able to measure that with pro equipment during calibration so it's pretty much a useless feature.

The GT also has a dual core processor where the ST only has a single core. That just translates to slightly faster smart apps. Other than that, the GT has THX modes which are just specific presets that you can set to get a decent picture. That's only useful if you don't want to tweak the picture yourself. ST and GT calibrated in the same manner should yield exactly the same picture quality.

VT has more adjustments and more custom preset modes. It also has 96hz input for 24fps handling.

The UT is using last year's panel and lacks the anti-glare filter the other three models have. It's still a pretty decent bargain, but only if you can really control the ambient light in a room.

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BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

burmart posted:

I'm looking for a 55 or 60 inch TV in the $1,500 rage. Do I really need to worry about refresh rates? Are there any go-to options in this size and price point?

I'm mostly interested in the TV for watching baseball, the olympics and breaking bad.

If you're into it for watching sports then 120 or 240 hz are gonna be what you want. It helps for watching faster moving events.

Here's a decent model (I'm on an LG kick right now) that even includes 3D and 6 pair of glasses.

http://www.amazon.com/LG-55LM6700-55-Inch-LED-LCD-Glasses/dp/B006ZH0M4Q/ref=sr_1_14?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1342648684&sr=1-14

Amazon/Panasonic are doing an Olympic Sale Special as well:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.ht...JHNGS36G60FYKWV

ntan1
Apr 29, 2009

sempai noticed me

neato burrito posted:

Alrighty, let me see if I have his figured out... I'm researching the line of Panasonic plasma sets, and from high end to entry level, the order goes like this: VT -> GT -> ST -> UT

Is that pretty much it? I'm mostly concerned about gaming on a 360 at this point, which line would be considered the sweet spot at the 50 inch level? (VTs are only available at 55 and up, but I'm still still considering it)

Also, are there any other brands/technologies that can compete? Looking to keep it under $1500.

ST. Just don't be an idiot and leave it on forever and let it burn out.

CrispKing
Jul 12, 2008

quote:

Vote after vote for the ST50

I really want the ST50, but I don't want to support 3D; is there anything with this picture quality that's basically a monitor with a tuner? I don't want manufacturers counting my sale as a success for 3D.

The Gunslinger
Jul 24, 2004

Do not forget the face of your father.
Fun Shoe

CrispKing posted:

I really want the ST50, but I don't want to support 3D; is there anything with this picture quality that's basically a monitor with a tuner? I don't want manufacturers counting my sale as a success for 3D.

Err they don't, they know it's pretty much just a tertiary feature to most consumers by now. Like everything else it's pretty much become a bullet point for advertising. If you were buying 4 pairs of glasses then that might send a different message. It's a great TV, don't worry about the 3D part.

neato burrito
Aug 25, 2002

bitch better have my chex mix

ntan1 posted:

ST. Just don't be an idiot and leave it on forever and let it burn out.

Duly noted. I'm dropping the hammer on a P50ST50, they are on sale at my Fry's (Austin) for $899. Can't lose at that price, they were either sold out or at least $1200 everywhere else I looked.

neato burrito fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Jul 19, 2012

VincesUndies
Jul 18, 2002

Vince McMahon's Underpants

BonoMan posted:

Here's a decent model (I'm on an LG kick right now) that even includes 3D and 6 pair of glasses.

http://www.amazon.com/LG-55LM6700-55-Inch-LED-LCD-Glasses/dp/B006ZH0M4Q/ref=sr_1_14?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1342648684&sr=1-14

I'm looking at the 55LM6400 which Costco carries
http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=10394752&whse=bcca&topnav=&cat=23458&hierPath=79*2341*23458*&lang=en-CA

I think it's the same model but the fact that it's at least $350 more expensive to buy it in Canada really ticks me off.

Great looking TV though!

burmart
Sep 14, 2002

10,000 Cunts
I can't seem to figure out the differences between the LGPA5500 and the LGPA6500.

Can anyone help?

Yawgmoft
Nov 15, 2004
You don't have to hand it to von Stauffenberg, call it what it actually was: treason

neato burrito posted:

Duly noted. I'm dropping the hammer on a P50ST50, they are on sale at my Fry's (Austin) for $899. Can't lose at that price, they were either sold out or at least $1200 everywhere else I looked.

Um, if true, could you take a photo scan an ad or otherwise prove that price for me? I'm still within my 30 day low price guarantee time limit on amazon.

neato burrito
Aug 25, 2002

bitch better have my chex mix

Yawgmoft posted:

Um, if true, could you take a photo scan an ad or otherwise prove that price for me? I'm still within my 30 day low price guarantee time limit on amazon.

I'll look for one when I go to pick it up. I actually had to get a rain check for that price as they were out of stock, but should be getting more this weekend. At the very least I'll snap a pic of the price tag on the display.

Fix
Jul 26, 2005

NEWT THE MOON


How would you A/V goons rate this set and this deal versus a 55inch Series 7 Samsung for $2100?

charsiu
Mar 10, 2012
I caved and bought the 50in version ST50 for about $1080 including shipping and tax from the Panasonic (I had a company discount) only to find out today that Paul's TV has it on sale for $999 with free shipping and no tax in my state.

For those of you still looking, here's the link: http://www.paulstv.com/Plasma-Televisions/Panasonic-TCP50ST50.asp

The folks at Slickdeals have a thread about it here: http://slickdeals.net/f/4910756-Panasonic-Plasma-ST50-series-on-sale-PaulsTV-Free-Shipping

NewcastleBrown
Mar 15, 2004
The One and Only
Alright guys, I could use some help. I live in a tiny little apartment and in order to save space I'd like to get a TV I can mount on the wall. That means its time for the old-as-poo poo CRT to go!

I am more or less always broke, so I'm hoping to spend $200 or less, though if what I get for my money jumps up enough I could be convinced to go to $300 or so. It will be used mostly for watching Netflix and the San Francisco Giants.

I'm not sure exactly how far away my couch is from the wall I'd be putting the TV on, but I estimate it is in the 12-15 foot range (it is a long, thin room and trying to set up the couch/tv the other way greatly reduces the usable space in the room).

There is a south-south-east facing window that is directly opposite where the TV will hang.

The wall space would probably be best suited for something in the 26"-32" range, I think.

Any recommendations?

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming
Does anyone have any experience with LG? This has an amazing price, but I'll probably check it out in person if I can.

totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.
I've been looking at the following 55" LED models. I plan to use it for video from my computer and PS3 games.

(Costco links):
Vizio 3D, M3D550KD, $1200
Vizio non-3D, M550SL, $1100 (dynamic contrast ratio 200,000:1? Can this be right?)
Samsung SmartTV, UN55ES6150F, $1450
Samsung non-SmartTv, UN55EH6050F, $1170
Panasonic, TC-55LE54, 1100

Currently, I'm looking at the first one, the Vizio 3D TV.

I'm not really interested in the 3D aspect of the first model but the non-3D one is only $100 cheaper, a worse response time (8 vs 5.5 ms of the first), but louder speakers (for what it's worth) and apparently a 36 pound stand that weighs more than the TV itself? "Weight: 65.9 lbs (w/stand) 29.9 lbs (w/out stand)"

The Samsung doesn't look like it's worth the extra $250. Its advantages, as I can see, is that it's 20 lbs lighter and comes with a swivel stand.

I don't see any advantage to the other Samsung or the Panasonic.

So, my questions:
1. Is my basic comparison fairly sound? For example, did I miss anything on the Samsung to make it worth the extra $250? Did I miss any deal-breakers on the Vizio?
2. Is there another model I should be looking at for a 55"-ish, give-or-take, LED TV? (I'd like to avoid plasma.)
3. Should I consider another technology, e.g. traditional LCD?
4. Closest I would sit to the TV is maybe 12 feet, is 55" too big at that distance?

TIA.

totalnewbie fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Jul 24, 2012

Gay Nudist Dad
Dec 12, 2006

asshole on a scooter
My girlfriend finally said "I wish we had a TV" which I guess means it's time!

Anyone have suggestions for
-37-42"
-up to $500
-no glare (we have a very bright apartment, there's no way we could set a TV up that wasn't opposite a frequently-sunlit window)

Smart features are not important (we'll mostly be hooking a computer up to it). I've generally preferred LCDs that I've seen but don't have any type preference. Having perfect dark blacks and pro-level colors are not important, we're just not active users. I just want a decent screen for a decent price.

Any guidance, goon friends?

Yawgmoft
Nov 15, 2004
You don't have to hand it to von Stauffenberg, call it what it actually was: treason
Oh God drat it I was one day late seeing the paul's sale. I just ran out of time today!

e: Nevermind! Amazon honored it anyway.

Yawgmoft fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Jul 26, 2012

fix yr hearts
Feb 9, 2011

things you cannot touch:
my heart
Hey guys,

I'm strongly considering getting the Samsung PN60E7000 (seen here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0077T1M0Y/). Any goons around here have any experience with it?

Or feel free to recommend any comparable/cheaper models. It's about at the limit of my price range.

Any help whatsoever is much appreciated! (This is my first time buying an hdtv)

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?

kaujot posted:

Hey guys,

I'm strongly considering getting the Samsung PN60E7000 (seen here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0077T1M0Y/). Any goons around here have any experience with it?

Or feel free to recommend any comparable/cheaper models. It's about at the limit of my price range.

Any help whatsoever is much appreciated! (This is my first time buying an hdtv)

I'd recommend this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00752VL8G/

I have the 65" and it's an amazing tv.

Super Dude
Jan 23, 2005
Do the Jew
edit: My question makes more sense in the HTPC thread, moved it there.

Super Dude fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Jul 26, 2012

NewcastleBrown
Mar 15, 2004
The One and Only
Other than making sure of mounting patterns, weight restrictions, and the like, is there anything I should know before buying a wall mount? I just ordered a cheap 32" LCD and want to put it on the wall. Mounts seem to range from $15 up over $100 and I'm not sure what makes the difference.

On another note, the house it will be installed in is over 100 years old. I assume the age of the house means I can't rely on there being studs every 16 inches. The wall it is going on has wood paneling of some sort, but I don't know if it can be trusted to hold up a 20lb TV if there are no studs where I need them.

Veinless
Sep 11, 2008

Smells like motivation
Background: I'm coming from a 57" 1080i Toshiba RPCRT which served well, but it's time to evergreen.

I'm a hockey fanatic.

I have a couple year old 50" LG plasma from WalMart that I sometimes watch hockey on. I don't enjoy it as much as I did the RP monster because things such as the boards are really sharp until the camera starts panning, then nasty blur on camera movement, then noticeable sharpening effect as soon as the camera stops moving. I don't know if this is characteristic of plasma or of buying stuff at WalMart.

I've never really spent much time watching games on LCD, but I really really want a 70" Sharp Aquos. It's big. Bigg. I've read on avsforum that there's a "dirty screen effect" that troubles these sets when showing a lot of white on-screen. This concerns me.

I'd be willing to consider a 65" set. Any hockey fans care to chime in on a good candidate? Budget is around $2.5-3k.

Edit: Went with a LG 65LM6200 LED LCD 3D 120Hz set.

Veinless fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Jul 29, 2012

Flashing Twelve
Mar 20, 2007

What's the deal for TVs in Australia? Budget is about $900 ideally, absolute max of $1300. Looking for something in the 50/55" range, 3D/smart features are unimportant. Going to be used with a HTPC mostly and some regular TV watching, console gaming/occasional pc gaming might be done as well.

Had a look at the ST50s, couldn't find one cheaper than $1400 for a 50". Whingepool was the usual mix of unhelpful elitists oxygen-free-cable types and brand fanboys. Ozbargain is empty.

burmart
Sep 14, 2002

10,000 Cunts
Alright, I think I settled on a TV.

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/product.jsp?productId=prod4070513&navAction=push

It's a 55 Inch Phillips LED TV model 55PFL4706/F7. Anyone have any opinions on it before I pull the trigger? Priced at $989.

Thanks.

Fix
Jul 26, 2005

NEWT THE MOON

I picked up a 55" LG smart tv with the little wiimote looking deal, and while it looks great and the 2d-3d conversion is really cool, the apps for it are severely lacking (and confusing across regions) and often functionally broken. Does anyone know of a good site that covers how-to's and apps for LG stuff? Their forums are... not great.

fyallm
Feb 27, 2007



College Slice
So I bought a panasonic 50 inch g10 about 2 years ago (http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Series-TC-P50G10-50-Inch-Plasma/dp/B001UAEWUS) and recently the board blew up. I am working with geek squad to try and get a new board sent but if it isn't here by Thursday I supposedly get a new tv. I have been out of the loop for a while so I was wondering what is a similar tv feature wise to my G10? I am trying to see what they are going to offer as my replacement tv... I want to make sure it isn't worse than my G10 and hopefully a little better :)

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Where was the G10 in Panasonic's line at the time? The current midrange offering is the ST50 which should a decent step up.

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


burmart posted:

Alright, I think I settled on a TV.

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/product.jsp?productId=prod4070513&navAction=push

It's a 55 Inch Phillips LED TV model 55PFL4706/F7. Anyone have any opinions on it before I pull the trigger? Priced at $989.

Thanks.

I had this TV but my roomate just moved out. It was awesome. The only thing I had to do was turn off that trumotion or whatever it was called to make it not look like a soap opera. It never lagged in games or had any ghosting or whatever anyone else complains about. Even the built in speakers sounded good.

fyallm
Feb 27, 2007



College Slice

bull3964 posted:

Where was the G10 in Panasonic's line at the time? The current midrange offering is the ST50 which should a decent step up.

I think it was in the middle. I have this weird suspension that Geek Squad isn't going to match what tier it was in, but what is most similar to it now.. So the ST50 would be comparable to the G10?

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


fyallm posted:

I think it was in the middle. I have this weird suspension that Geek Squad isn't going to match what tier it was in, but what is most similar to it now.. So the ST50 would be comparable to the G10?

Actually, seeing that the display you listed was THX certified, you probably have a good case to get the GT50 since it's the current THX certified 2012 model.

In all reality, even the bottom of the line UT50 would probably give better image quality than the G10 since Panasonic's entire line this year is fantastic, but you might as well try to push for feature parity. I would also refuse the UT50 simply because it doesn't have the antiglare filter that your G10 has.

fyallm
Feb 27, 2007



College Slice

bull3964 posted:

Actually, seeing that the display you listed was THX certified, you probably have a good case to get the GT50 since it's the current THX certified 2012 model.

In all reality, even the bottom of the line UT50 would probably give better image quality than the G10 since Panasonic's entire line this year is fantastic, but you might as well try to push for feature parity. I would also refuse the UT50 simply because it doesn't have the antiglare filter that your G10 has.

Awesome those are the exact things I was hoping to get from posting in this thread! I can't thank you enough!

The Gunslinger
Jul 24, 2004

Do not forget the face of your father.
Fun Shoe

quote:

Actually, seeing that the display you listed was THX certified, you probably have a good case to get the GT50 since it's the current THX certified 2012 model.

In all reality, even the bottom of the line UT50 would probably give better image quality than the G10 since Panasonic's entire line this year is fantastic, but you might as well try to push for feature parity. I would also refuse the UT50 simply because it doesn't have the antiglare filter that your G10 has.

Yeah exactly. Definitely don't settle for less than the ST50 and if it was me I would shoot for the VT or GT.

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


I'm looking for something in my bedroom and was wondering how people thought of this set.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_i=507846

It seems to be pretty well reviewed but I never seem to see any discussion below 55 inches here. Is there anything specific I should be looking for at that size range anymore? It's been years and years since I had to actively buy a TV.

Nibelheim
Jul 7, 2006

I've been looking to buy a TV for the living room, and right now this TV is on special at 1150 CD$ http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/tv-video/tv/led/UN50ES6100FXZC

Does anyone have any experience with the Samsung 6 series? I know that particular model doesn't have the whole "evolution chip" but I really can't find any other downsides.

Itchy_Grundle
Feb 22, 2003

I'm looking for a bedroom TV and my research has brought me to the Samsung UN40EH5000. Most places have it for just under $600, and I just missed a sale price of $569. Any thoughts before I pull the trigger?

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Ramadu posted:

I'm looking for something in my bedroom and was wondering how people thought of this set.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_i=507846

It seems to be pretty well reviewed but I never seem to see any discussion below 55 inches here. Is there anything specific I should be looking for at that size range anymore? It's been years and years since I had to actively buy a TV.

If you're willing to go up 8", Amazon has Samsung's 550 for cheaper:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN40E...amsung+e550+lcd

Samsung TVs have the best UI, and, having seen one of these show Olympic swimming in HD, I can say that it is a very nice TV.
Mind you, it was in a brightly lit showroom, so I can't speak to it's cinema capabilities.

Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Jul 31, 2012

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Hey guys! :haw:

I've got a 5 year old Panasonic TH-50PX60U 720p plasma which is starting to give me the willies. I sometimes get a couple of purple lines/splotches @ 720p or 1080i which is making me think it's probably on its last legs.

I have given this thread a browse and see that Panasonics still get lots of love here, which is fine, but I am by no means dead set on one.

I am probably leaning towards Plasma, but not sold on it necessarily. I would probably like to buy one at my local Costco as I feel much better with their return policy and have it down to a few choices that I'd like input on.

Firtly, TV is in my basement with minimal direct lighting. Glare is minimal, if any. I am not fussy and do not have a hard on for 3D, but if the TV has it as a feature I am not against it. TV is used for Netflix streaming and PS3 gaming along with Bluray and DVD through the PS3. We don't even subscribe to Satellite or cable anymore.

I would like a 55-60" TV. Within reason, price isn't a huge issue.

My local Costco has in stock: (All prices :canada:)

LG 60PA6500 1080p 60" Plasma. This seems to have really good reviews and the price is attractive enough. $990

Samsung PN59D530 59" (??) Plasma. Amazon reviews seem a little sketchy about this box. $900

Toshiba 55L6200U 55" 1080p 3D LED. Don't know much about this. I do know it's "passive 3d." Is that bad? Good? $1580

Sony 55HX751 55" 3D 1080p LED. Also don't know much about it, but it's a Sony. $1800

I'm probably leaning against 3D, but if the TVs are superior I have no problem spending the $$.

Opinions?

Boxman
Sep 27, 2004

Big fan of :frog:


slidebite posted:

Toshiba 55L6200U 55" 1080p 3D LED. Don't know much about this. I do know it's "passive 3d." Is that bad? Good? $1580

I don't know enough about the brands to speak cogently to what you have here, but passive 3D mimics the polarization that you see in movie theatres. Which means you get to use the same (cheap) polarized lenses you do there.

I'm shopping for a living room TV on a budget, which is sort of a nightmare. How's Vizio these days? They get good marks from some places.

What are the decent websites that review HD TVs? I'm looking at Cnet, but I really have no idea.

Finally, are the days of multiple antenna inputs behind us? My building provides free basic cable, but I'd love to be able to throw up an antenna to get OTA local HD stations. Do coax switches even exist anymore?

Boxman fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Jul 31, 2012

VincesUndies
Jul 18, 2002

Vince McMahon's Underpants

slidebite posted:


Toshiba 55L6200U 55" 1080p 3D LED. Don't know much about this. I do know it's "passive 3d." Is that bad? Good? $1580

I'm in the same boat, looking to replace my old 2005 Toshiba DLP. From my research, most people are saying passive 3D is the way to go. Glasses are cheap, wider viewing angle, a sharper picture and less crosstalk as far as the 3D image goes.

The reason I'm getting a 3D TV isn't for the 3D though. All reviews seem to indicate that the picture quality is much better with 3D TVs than 2D.


Boxman posted:

Finally, are the days of multiple antenna inputs behind us? My building provides free basic cable, but I'd love to be able to throw up an antenna to get OTA local HD stations. Do coax switches even exist anymore?
Check out the Mohu Leaf antenna. I haven't gotten one yet but they seem to be really effective.

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slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Is that true with 3D TVs having better pictures? I've not heard that. I am so woefully uneducated. :(

You know, we could almost use a "go to list" for recommended TVs and poo poo like how we do for PCs in that subforum.

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