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Duncan Doenitz
Nov 17, 2010

There are four lights.

Next-Gen posted:

The model of tv you have (lnt-xx61f and lnt-xx65f) are plagued with counterfeit capacitors that will bulge and fail prematurely. Unfortunately, your symptoms sound exactly like the issue caused by them and the only way to fix them is to have them replaced. There are tutorials on doing this if you google this problem, and if you take off the back you can verify if you have bulging capacitors.

If you don't want to try this repair, some people have had luck harassing samsung about this issue outside of warranty.

Thanks for making me aware of this; I had no idea there was actually a class-action lawsuit over this issue. I called Samsung and they set up a free repair for it.

I had the same question as Kid regarding the Panasonic E50, so I'll repost it for the new page:

Kid posted:

I am planning on buying an LED LCD. It will be used as a 2nd computer monitor as well as well as a TV. I do not have cable, so all media will come from online or my computer.


Samsung UN40EH5300 (Smart)
Samsung UN40EH600
Panasonic Viera TC-L42E50 (Smart)

Does anyone have opinions/experiences with any of these models or recomends one over the other? The Samsungs have a CMR rate of 120 and 240, I am not sure if this is a noticeable difference.

Duncan Doenitz fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Sep 8, 2012

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Chemmy
Feb 4, 2001

priznat posted:

How are newer plasmas for image retention?

When I got my plasma six years ago I played Halo 3 on it for ten hours at a time. It's fine. Don't worry about it.

Nairbo
Jan 2, 2005
I think I'll just wind up mounting the TV to the wall. Most TV support stands are looking like $50-100 with shipping and it's much easier just to drill a hole and putty it after, the rental I'm in has off-white paint and the landlord went out of her way to say we can hang stuff on the walls.

toplitzin
Jun 13, 2003


Godinster posted:

I think I'll just wind up mounting the TV to the wall. Most TV support stands are looking like $50-100 with shipping and it's much easier just to drill a hole and putty it after, the rental I'm in has off-white paint and the landlord went out of her way to say we can hang stuff on the walls.

I always just buy some spackle and matching paint, even if i do it right and mount the TV to a stud.

foxy boxing babe
Jan 17, 2010


What exactly is Panasonic's focused field drive? Is it worth the jump in price from the U50 to the UT50 if I don't care about smart tv or 3D? I saw the UT50 in person and liked it, but haven't been able to see the U50. Will I notice a difference?

JayKay
Sep 11, 2001

And you thought they were cute and cuddly.

Is the Samsung LN46D630 (2011 46" LCD 120 hz) still a decent set to go for at $680? It seemed to have really good reviews when it came out, was wondering if it was still worth it even though it's a 2011 model.

Edit: I'm looking for a 46" 120hz set with at least 3 HDMI and a VGA port. Smart TV is a plus but since I'm hooking this up to a HTPC, it's not necessary.

JayKay fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Sep 11, 2012

Contero
Mar 28, 2004

Any recommendations for a 60/65-ish inch LCD? I'm looking for something:

* With as few "smart" menus/features as possible.
* High quality picture/colors/lighting.
* No auto-dimming/ce dimming. My current Sony does this and it drives me loving crazy.
* Looking to spend around $1500 but I'd go as high as $2000 for something really good.


Edit: after looking around a bit, let me rephrase my post into something not worthless:

What is the difference between ST30 and ST50? Is it worth the price to make the jump in generation considering the 65" models are currently priced $650 apart?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004MME76U ST30
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00752VKE6/ ST50

Contero fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Sep 13, 2012

Delthalaz
Mar 5, 2003






Slippery Tilde
Hey, what do you guys think of this 42-inch LG LCD HDTV?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006ZH0JQM/ref=nosim/?tag=cloverhat-20

It's $499.99, placing it right within my $500-ish budget. I'm looking for a TV at about this size at about this cost, but would love to know better options.

foxy boxing babe
Jan 17, 2010


Just thought I'd post that I went ahead and got the Panasonic U50 since I don't need any of the smart tv stuff and I was able to get a good deal on it through my job, and wow, I'm pretty impressed with it. This is my first plasma and the difference in picture clarity and contrast with my old 21" Samsung 1080p monitor is just amazing. I'd definitely recommend it if you're looking for a good plasma that's not a ton of money.

Boxman
Sep 27, 2004

Big fan of :frog:


Contero posted:

Any recommendations for a 60/65-ish inch LCD? I'm looking for something:

* With as few "smart" menus/features as possible.
* High quality picture/colors/lighting.
* No auto-dimming/ce dimming. My current Sony does this and it drives me loving crazy.
* Looking to spend around $1500 but I'd go as high as $2000 for something really good.


Edit: after looking around a bit, let me rephrase my post into something not worthless:

What is the difference between ST30 and ST50? Is it worth the price to make the jump in generation considering the 65" models are currently priced $650 apart?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004MME76U ST30
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00752VKE6/ ST50

IIRC, Panasonic upgraded the anti-glare coat on this years models. If your room is such where glare is a serious concern, it's worth thinking about the difference. Of course, that isn't really a $650 difference - some of that is just "last years model" discount.

Listerine
Jan 5, 2005

Exquisite Corpse

toplitzin posted:

Did you pull the trigger?

Sorry for the delay- I bought the TV as part of a move to a new state/new job, and for a while I was without internet and then for a while I was busy with starting the new job.

I ended up going for the 60" ST50 Panasonic and I'm quite pleased with it. I used the settings and pre-treatment posted at high def junkies, and they work fantastic for my PS3 blu-ray playback. For my cable input, I had to tweak around with the settings to improve the picture, mostly to get skin tones looking better (I prefer a little more color saturation than is strictly realistic).

I'm less impressed with the picture for the cable input compared to my previous TV, but I think that may have to do either with going from 720 to 1080 for the cable signal, or maybe Time Warner here doesn't broadcast as quality a signal as Comcast did in Arizona. I don't know. But since the blu-ray playback looks slightly better than on my old Samsung, I'm inclined to think it has something to do with the source and not the TV itself.

All in all very happy with the purchase, and would endorse picking up this TV if you're still in the market.

Fiendish Dr. Wu
Nov 11, 2010

You done fucked up now!
What's the best 40-46" tv with smart capability for around $400-500? We're looking for a secondary tv for the kids playroom, and the built in netflix app would be awesome since already the kids can operate the netflix app on our ps3 on the main tv.

Also bigger points if it's available at Wal-Mart in store because they're running a 0% APR for 18 months on any electronics purchase of $329 or more done on a Wal-Mart credit card.

Chemmy
Feb 4, 2001

Boxman posted:

Of course, that isn't really a $650 difference - some of that is just "last years model" discount.

My personal opinion is that for a 25%+ discount it's hard to imagine that they made quantum leaps in TV technology in a year.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:

What's the best 40-46" tv with smart capability for around $400-500? We're looking for a secondary tv for the kids playroom, and the built in netflix app would be awesome since already the kids can operate the netflix app on our ps3 on the main tv.

Also bigger points if it's available at Wal-Mart in store because they're running a 0% APR for 18 months on any electronics purchase of $329 or more done on a Wal-Mart credit card.

Probably the Samsung EH5300. ($500-$600 for a 40")
It has Smart features, but doesn't necessarily cost the proverbial arm-and-a-leg.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

Is this worth buying: http://www.amazon.com/LG-32CS560-32-Inch-1080p-60Hz/dp/B0072B90R4/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1348189961&sr=1-4

I plan on plugging and xbox and my pc (for streaming and stuff) and getting a cable box and running hd cable.

32 inches is my goal. Under $400.

mellowjournalism
Jul 31, 2004

helllooo
I went on antennaweb.org and it said my reception was mostly UHF Yellow and would need a Small Multidirectional Antenna. Any recommendations on a good antenna? http://www.amazon.com/Winegard-Comp...flat+tv+antenna seemed like one of the higher rated ones (since I heard flat antennas are good) but it would be cool if anyone here can share good results from a cheaper one.

idolmind86
Jun 13, 2003

It's better to burn out than to fade away.

It's even better to work out, numbnuts.
I want to flush mount my TV against the wall. What is the best bet for hiding the cables? Problem is, the cabinet I want everything to go in is on the other side of the room so I'm looking at cables over 15 feet.

Ideally, I'd like to run multiple HDMI cables from the cabinet so I can use mutliple inputs on the tv. Would I be better off investing in some type of switch box instead, and just running one HDMI to the tv? I feel like space to run the cables may be limited as my only choice for mounting the tv is an exterior wall which is probably full of insulation.

So, what type of HDMI cable should I use for 1080p at long runs (between 15 and 25 feet). Is there a better way to do this if I have to mount on an exterior wall? The more I think about doing this, the more of a giant pain in the rear end it seems like.

Dogbrisket
Jun 10, 2009

Ok, so I'm looking to replace my 20" Toshiba CRT that I've been using for the last 15 or so years, and I think I'm leaning towards the Panasonic TC-L47E5 LED. I can't find much in the way of reviews, but it looks gorgeous on display at Costco, and Panasonic's tv's seem to be pretty well reviewed. However, one of the few reviews I've found indicates serious problems with the audio/video sync. I've noticed this on other flat panels as well. What causes this and is it possible to resolve it?

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:
The Brit site hdtvtest.co.uk gave it a "Recommended" rating, for what it's worth.


Post-processing effects (picture smoothing, upscaling, etc.) can delay the picture enough that the audio comes before the picture.
One way to fix it is to buy a receiver capable of programmable sound delay.
Technically, another way would be to sit so far away that the sound reaches your eye the same time as the picture does. :haw:

As for sound coming after the image, that's usually lovely formatting, or your PC/media box "cannae handle tha' (transcoding/streaming) strain, Captain".

Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Oct 8, 2012

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!
I picked up the Samsung UN40EH6000 today at Best Buy. It was an "open box" item, and they gave it to me for $550 after a little haggling. Its by far the nicest TV I've ever owned. Now I just need to figure out a sound setup for it. Thinking about going with a sound bar since I live in a tiny apartment.

Anyone else have this TV and recommend any settings?

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Alright, well I ordered an old Vizio model for 400 at a steep discount and had issues with shipping, so I got refunded. Now I'm starting from scratch, and this time around I figured there would be an SA thread and swung by. I'm glad to see people talking about the U50, because that's what I've been taking a look at. My budget is like 600 though. I've found some top quality used U50's at $650, and it's gonna break my balls to have to pay that, but I might just end up doing it. Is there a place where I can get a quality U50, used or refurbished that's reliable, or maybe an option that's cheaper, but not too far behind in picture quality? I don't care about 3D or smarts, I just want the best PQ I can get, and it seems like anything from 500-650 is just a waste to buy considering the picture quality jump that the U50 offers.

OK it seems like the Samsung PN51E450 isn't a huge drop in quality. It's about 550 shipped brand new, whereas the U50 is gonna be 650 like new. Is that 100 dollar difference gonna be worth it for a casual watcher? I'll use it all the time, and I can appreciate the better performance, but I want to be sure that I'm getting the best performance per dollar.

Volkerball fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Oct 2, 2012

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
Hi guys,

I don't know much about TVs apart from the basics, but my five-year-old Westinghouse just crapped out on me and I need a new one fast.

I have an old nineties-style entertainment center that limits the size of the TV I can have. I don't want to get rid of it because it keeps our videogames and DVDs out of reach of our children, and we can put our consoles and stuff on top. The external dimensions of the TV cannot exceed 29" wide by 24" tall. Our current TV was 26" diagonal and barely fit.

The Westinghouse was an HDTV capable of supporting 720p (I think). I'd like to go 1080 but honestly it isn't that big of a deal to get another 720p TV. It had two HDMI inputs and two component inputs and I'd like to keep those inputs and possibly find something with a third component input. Everything I've found online only has one component input, and I really don't want to unplug/plug stuff in every other day.

So I guess my question is, are there any 26" HDTVs with a decent amount of inputs for a reasonable price?

edit: I know I could get one of those component switching boxes, but I'd rather avoid that if I can.

Another edit: This is the TV we had.

CornHolio fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Oct 2, 2012

burmart
Sep 14, 2002

10,000 Cunts
Are Vizio's generally decent TVs? I've seen that they're releasing this one:

VIZIO 60” Class Razor LED™ Smart TV
http://store.vizio.com/led-lcd-hdtvs/e601ia3.html



The price and size are right in my wheelhouse, but I want something that isn't just flat out awful. I have an old 42 inch Phillips with Ambilight, and think it's a pretty great TV. I just want something that can match that, but in a bigger size.

Additionally, is it possible to just plug in a USB drive into the TV, then play videos on it?

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

burmart posted:

Are Vizio's generally decent TVs? I've seen that they're releasing this one:

VIZIO 60” Class Razor LED™ Smart TV
http://store.vizio.com/led-lcd-hdtvs/e601ia3.html



The price and size are right in my wheelhouse, but I want something that isn't just flat out awful. I have an old 42 inch Phillips with Ambilight, and think it's a pretty great TV. I just want something that can match that, but in a bigger size.

Additionally, is it possible to just plug in a USB drive into the TV, then play videos on it?

Yeah Vizio's are fine. Not the best, but definitely fine. And for a 60" that's a fair price. Just expect the "Smart TV" functions to be sluggish and clunky. They generally are in most TVs. You could just bypass it and get a Roku or something which is a tad more responsive.

And yes that TV should have the ability to plug and play some formats. Not sure which though.

Acer Pilot
Feb 17, 2007
put the 'the' in therapist

:dukedog:

Welp, another Craigslist TV blew up in my living room.

Can anyone suggest any good TVs (as big as possible) available in Vancouver, BC or possibly Washington State that are around $400 or under (before tax). I'd like a Sony or Samsung if possible.

e: I also have an HD box from our local cable company if that matters.

Thanks

Piquai Souban
Mar 21, 2007

Manque du respect: toujours.
Triple bas cinq: toujours.
What's a good technology and make and model for a bright room if I don't care about 3D or smart TV in the 46" - 55" range? I'm not particularly married to any of the technologies in particular. 1K$ is probably near my price ceiling - I was looking at the Panasonic Plasma ST50, but not needing the 3D and smart capabilities made me just want to re-evaluate my direction.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Simply put, 3D and Smart Features are virtually a zero cost add for the manufacturers now so any of the higher quality TVs are going to have them.

If you don't want those features, just ignore them and concentrate on picture quality. Don't get stuck in the mindset that you are paying "extra" for those features as that's not really true once you are looking at mid-upper range TVs.

The only place where this is true in Panasonic's lineup right now is between the U and the UT as 3d and smart features are the only difference between them. However, that is on the low end.

In other words, there's no picture quality equivalent to Panasonic's ST line without 3d and Smart TV features. Anything you find that's of similar quality across all manufacturers is going to have those features as well.

Piquai Souban
Mar 21, 2007

Manque du respect: toujours.
Triple bas cinq: toujours.
That makes a lot of sense. Looks like I'll pony up for the ST, and maybe hold for the best price between here and Boxing Day - thanks!

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through
How well do those work in a bright room? One of my walls is entirely windows.

Also I know burn-in is largely a legacy problem at this point, but how long does it take for image retention to recover? Seem times I fall asleep playing a video game or something.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Plasma brightness, while not up to LED standards, is certainly as high or higher than a few year old LCD.

The main issue is the glossy screen and you're going to have that with pretty much every TV on the market today as they nearly all have glossy screens. The ST and higher have a anti-glare screen which does well with scattering off angle light sources, but you'll still see some reflections in the glass.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

bull3964 posted:

Plasma brightness, while not up to LED standards, is certainly as high or higher than a few year old LCD.

The main issue is the glossy screen and you're going to have that with pretty much every TV on the market today as they nearly all have glossy screens. The ST and higher have a anti-glare screen which does well with scattering off angle light sources, but you'll still see some reflections in the glass.
Hmm. Something to think about. I've got about a grand to spend on a tv this fall, and it's difficult to choose, heh.

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
I'm looking for a new 40" LED tv for under $600 or so. I don't care about the social media or internet connectivity, all I need is 2+ HDMI ports and a reputable brand. What's good now? 40" is about the max we can fit in the corner of the living room, maybe 42" if I really squeeze it.

Christobevii3
Jul 3, 2006
If you have a samsclub they have vizio and samsung led 40-42" 120hz for around $500 right now.

Boxman
Sep 27, 2004

Big fan of :frog:


Christobevii3 posted:

If you have a samsclub they have vizio and samsung led 40-42" 120hz for around $500 right now.

I have the 47" M-Series Vizio and it looks pretty great. Major complaints: the UI is definitely sluggish and there's a lack of non-HDMI inputs (only 1 component, which is trouble for my launch-era 360 and Wii set up). Game mode also introduces an uncomfortable amount of input lag for fighting games; playable for less twitchy action games like Assassin's Creed, though. Also the remote isn't great but I'm pretty sure that's a mandatory feature for OEM remotes these days. :v:

Anyway, my model number is the M3D470KD. It looks like the equivalent at the 42" level is the M3D420SR. Nonsensical manufacturer nomenclature aside, I'm pretty certain that leading "M" means it's the same tier television. If you buy from Sam's Club, don't forget that you can use a credit card if you buy online, which is really great if your card extends warranties (and if it doesn't, look into a new TV.)

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
My U50 will be here on Thursday. I've got an external hard drive, and a laptop with an HDMI output. Anyone know if the USB drive on the TV would be able to play .avi files? And is the difference between watching something from a laptop through an HDMI output and watching through the USB port going to be noticeable?

StabbinHobo
Oct 18, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I'm having a bitch of a time on amazon and newegg trying to figure out which led-lcd tv's are edge lit and which are full-lit... is that even a thing anymore?


:words:

StabbinHobo fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Oct 15, 2012

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




Can anyone offer any antenna advice? I want to pick up ABC, FOX and CBS so I can watch me some football. Everything else, we can watch on Netflix or Amazon Prime. I tried this. Bit it didn't get me CBS. The first two are apparently within 13 or so miles and CBS requires 24 miles. So much for 50 mile range.

Looking for something relatively cheap, I don't mind taking it down and putting it up in the window every Sunday. I hear amplified may be better? I just need some suggestions.

Taitale
Feb 19, 2011

StabbinHobo posted:

I'm having a bitch of a time on amazon and newegg trying to figure out which led-lcd tv's are edge lit and which are full-lit... is that even a thing anymore?

For Samsung EH means direct, ES means edge.

weaaddar
Jul 17, 2004
HAY GUYS WHAT IS TEH INTERWEBNET, AND ISN'T A0L the SECKZ!? :LOL: 1337
PS I'M A FUCKING LOSER
Any thoughts on if its worth buying a panasonic UT50 or ST50? I can get the 60 inch UT50 for 1050 which is absurdly cheap. and the ST50 for around 1300.
I read that the U50 doesn't have the light filter. Would that render the TV unusable in a lit room?
As for HDMI inputs I already have an AVR so I don't care about that.

Also hows the lag on this box? I've never owned a plasma before.

Sorry didn't notice they were UT50s and ST50s.

weaaddar fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Oct 9, 2012

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Ethereal
Mar 8, 2003
Any TV lines that have two antenna inputs for picture in picture? Or a solution that'll let me do that with any tv? Also, how have you guys gotten rid of your old TV? I have a 7 year old 42" plasma, but I can't figure out a good way to get rid of it. Craigslist maybe?

(It'd be great for college football saturday and NFL sunday)

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