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My Samsung PN51E6500 arrived today. My God, it's beautiful... and I'm only watching Netflix at the moment. Setup was easy as pie. Barely touched calibration so far (zeroed Sharpness, turned off all post-processing effects, maxed the Cell Light and lowered Contrast a little). The days when plasma couldn't operate in daylight are definitely over. I have a skylight (loft apartment), lamp, and ceiling light on, and the detail is coming through fiiine. I don't care for the chickenfoot stand, but that brushed-metal bezel with the clear plastic border is very slick. Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Nov 21, 2012 |
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We're getting a new TV. On the model we have right now, on dark scenes and shows it's often hard to make out what the hell is happening, so we have the brightness turned up fairly high, but then that makes things look washed out in scenes with normal lighting. What do I need to look for so we don't have this issue? Better backlighting? Better black contrast?
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Nov 21, 2012 00:52
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I just bought an HDTV for my parents for Christmas, and well I can't help but start browsing for myself when looking through huge pretty TV's. My current set is a Pioneer KURO KRP-600M. I bought it about 3 years ago just as they were going out of business, because I got a great deal on it. I'm pretty happy with its picture quality, and I always thought the next logical step for me would have to be an HD projector, but some of the newer models these days do like really nice, at least from a feature/design angel. I'm curious as to how the screen quality of my Kuro holds up against these newer sets. Is it worth considering an upgrade any time remotely soon or would it be a stupid waste?
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Nov 21, 2012 02:20
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Anyone have experience/opinions on the Samsung UN40EH6030? I'm thinking about picking one up from the BJ's Black Friday sale ($499.99) and it seems to be a decent midrange gaming TV. 40" is as big as I can go, 1080p is nice, and from what I hear, 120 hz is the go-to refresh rate for gaming. 3D is icing on the cake. EDIT: Rechecking the OP, is it still an an issue that TV's under 45" don't have that much of a quality difference between 720p and 1080p? Would it be better for finding something cheaper that's 720p if I'm limited to 40"? I'm not very good at this. 
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Nov 21, 2012 03:45
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Anyone have image retention issues on the Panasonic plasmas? Googling around it seems to be pretty widespread, and the Panasonic plasma performed worst in CNet's test  I just got the ST50. I'm doing the 100-hour calibration panel prep and using the reference settings from highdefjunkies. I played about an hour of Halo 4(at 720p nonetheless because I only have the component adapter right now) and wow it's pretty nice. I can't wait to see it when it's calibrated.
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Nov 21, 2012 05:02
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OK guys I'm looking to make a purchase in the next couple days. I've settled on 2 (as of right now please feel free to suggest) LG 55'' LED Cinema 3D HDTV 55LM4600 This one is $999 so it's cheaper than option 2. It also comes with 2d-3d conversion. Is this something I would use? Is it just some gimmick that doesn't really add much? VIZIO M3D550KD 55-Inch 240Hz Class Theater 3D Edge Lit Razor LED LCD HDTV with VIZIO Internet This one has everything (as far as I can tell) that the LG has except the 3d conversion, and this one is 240Hz. I have my computer hooked up to my TV, and I do all my gaming on it so I was thinking that extra framerate would come in handy. It's more expensive, currently sitting at $1,279 which is *really* at the top of my budget. What do you guys think? I'd really appreciate any advice right now.
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Nov 21, 2012 05:47
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IR on this gen of Panny plasmas seems to follow a bell curve with the worst of it peaking around the 200-300 hr mark. During the worst of it, it will experience short onset/long duration IR where it will take several times longer to get rid of it than it took to make it. After that, it seems to be a lot more resistant and goes away a bit quicker. Honestly, the best thing is not to look for it. It will go away with time and very rarely is it visible during normal viewing. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Nov 21, 2012 |
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Nov 21, 2012 05:54
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I don't know how many of you guys have $25k to drop on a TV, but I thought this was interesting. http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Sony/UHDTV/Sonys_UHDTV_Comes_with_4K_Content_Packed_In/10584 Apparently Sony's 84" 4K UHDTV is going to have several full 4K movies right there on the unit. Not a bad idea while we wait for on-disc 2160p films.
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Nov 21, 2012 06:18
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Definitely glad I bought a Smart TV. Been using my 360 with the Asus VH236 ("Evo") monitor for the last two years, via VGA (CRT before that). I plug the 360 into the Samsung via HDMI and... can't play Netflix through it anymore, it just gives me some bullshit HDCP licensing error.  It was a brand new 1.4a cable, and everything. Too bad. Samsung's Netflix app isn't as good as the 360's. But at least it loving works. 
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Nov 21, 2012 10:28
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memento mori posted:OK guys I'm looking to make a purchase in the next couple days. I've settled on 2 (as of right now please feel free to suggest) edit: also amazon warehouse has a like new for $1000 Don Lapre fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Nov 21, 2012 |
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Nov 21, 2012 12:49
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Mister Macys posted:Definitely glad I bought a Smart TV. Did you unplug the VGA adapter? A lot of times, if one display output is capable of HDCP and the other isn't, the whole HDCP negotiation fails. I have a dual monitor setup at home and one display is HDCP capable and one isn't. I can't play any HDCP protected content until I disable the second monitor.
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Nov 21, 2012 14:14
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XboxPants posted:We're getting a new TV. On the model we have right now, on dark scenes and shows it's often hard to make out what the hell is happening, so we have the brightness turned up fairly high, but then that makes things look washed out in scenes with normal lighting. That said, what you are looking for in terminology is "black level", which determines how well the the display can distinguish different levels of black. When looking for a new TV, what you want to avoid is one that has forum posts or professional reviews that complain about poor or unsatisfactory black levels. However, you also should make sure your TV is properly calibrated once you get it as well.
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Nov 21, 2012 14:45
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bull3964 posted:Did you unplug the VGA adapter? Why would I keep the VGA cord plugged in when I have a new TV now? Removing it was the first thing I did when I hooked it up via HDMI.
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Nov 21, 2012 18:36
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Am I going to notice much of a difference between 240 Hz and 120? I'm looking at 2 TVs right now and that's the only real difference I'm seeing between the 2. Should I spend a bit extra for the faster frame rate? I'm going to have my computer plugged into it for gaming, as well as blu-rays and PS3.
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Nov 21, 2012 21:39
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kuddles posted:It's possible there is something involving your television brightness that just stopped working on the hardware side, so it might not be a problem with the actual model. Thanks a lot, terminology like that is just what I was looking for. Now I just have to make sure I find one that doesn't bother my totally-not-imaginary judder pickiness.
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I'm currently waffling between the Panasonic TC-P60U50 60-Inch 600Hz Plasma HDTV (Amazon) and the VIZIO E601i-A3 60-Inch 1080p 120Hz Razor LED Smart HDTV (Amazon). I read through the last few pages of the thread, but nobody seems to have a strong opinion of one over the other, but that they were both good in different ways. I don't watch that much TV and am really only planning on using it for movies, so is there anything I should be aware of? Also, what is the expected life of these units? I realize that they are both pretty new, but it'd be nice to know how many years they should last.
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Nov 21, 2012 23:31
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GrandpaPants posted:I'm currently waffling between the Panasonic TC-P60U50 60-Inch 600Hz Plasma HDTV (Amazon) and the VIZIO E601i-A3 60-Inch 1080p 120Hz Razor LED Smart HDTV (Amazon). I read through the last few pages of the thread, but nobody seems to have a strong opinion of one over the other, but that they were both good in different ways. I don't watch that much TV and am really only planning on using it for movies, so is there anything I should be aware of? Also, what is the expected life of these units? I realize that they are both pretty new, but it'd be nice to know how many years they should last. You and me both man....
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memento mori posted:Am I going to notice much of a difference between 240 Hz and 120? I'm looking at 2 TVs right now and that's the only real difference I'm seeing between the 2. Should I spend a bit extra for the faster frame rate? I'm going to have my computer plugged into it for gaming, as well as blu-rays and PS3.
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Lediur posted:Are there any really stand-out budget TVs around 40" in size? I have a budget around $500 (although I can to spend up to $600 if there's a TV substantially better at that price) and I'm looking for something that prioritizes picture quality. Low input lag / response time would also be a plus. I don't care about "smart TV" features since I have an Xbox for that stuff. Sorry if I missed blackfriday talk but I was wondering if this would be a good set or something that would suck and/or implode in a month. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...=4328635&loc=01 BlackFriday Price $179.99 The distance from where the screen will be to back of couch is 9'. I was not sure if I should go up to 120hz or if our human eyes will really be able to tell the difference when we watch Adventure Time and Tosh.O on our DVR. I read the last few pages and didn't see any talk about B.F. and I thought I would ask. it seems like a great answer to this guy from a month ago: Lediur posted:Are there any really stand-out budget TVs around 40" in size? I have a budget around $500 (although I can to spend up to $600 if there's a TV substantially better at that price) and I'm looking for something that prioritizes picture quality. Low input lag / response time would also be a plus. I don't care about "smart TV" features since I have an Xbox for that stuff.
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WhiteOutMouse posted:Sorry if I missed blackfriday talk but I was wondering if this would be a good set or something that would suck and/or implode in a month. The review for that Toshiba E220 television isn't that... good: http://www.televisioninfo.com/content/Toshiba-40E220U-LCD-HDTV-Review.htm
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"We’d say a 40-inch TV of this caliber, for an MSRP of $499, is a pretty solid deal." ...except for $180. Sounds pretty ok to me.
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Thanks for the quick reply. That is a bummer that it is not as bright since it's not LED backlit. Though when I saw their blackfriday article it mentioned this:quote:This Toshiba LCD (not an LED!) serves up steak without the sizzle. But when you’re getting solid color and deep black levels on a 40-inch screen for $179, it’s almost too good to be true. So if being a non-smart non-3d TV with no LED lighting is what makes it bad then it might be worth it for what I need. Our current TV is an old Sony CRT 4:3 27". If this LCD is the same brightness then it should still be an improvement at a low price. I would be disappointed if overall the output felt too dark though... Not sure if I can have my brother wait in line to see it in person to make the call (I work blackfriday night/morning).
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Think I'm about to pull the trigger on this LG 47CM565 47" LCD http://www.amazon.com/LG-47CM565-47-Inch-Cinema-1080p/dp/B0074WVSFI/ref=dp_return_2?ie=UTF8&n=172282&s=electronics Any opinions?
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Trying to figure out what 3D glasses to get for my incoming ST50 is a confusing proposition. Got some PS3 3D glasses before figuring out they are IR and the TV is RF / Bluetooth. Any recommendations for a cheap / ergonomically friendly set of RF / Bluetooth glasses? I'm a natural 4 eyes myself, so would love something that plays nice with prescription glasses.
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GrandpaPants posted:I'm currently waffling between the Panasonic TC-P60U50 60-Inch 600Hz Plasma HDTV (Amazon) and the VIZIO E601i-A3 60-Inch 1080p 120Hz Razor LED Smart HDTV (Amazon). I read through the last few pages of the thread, but nobody seems to have a strong opinion of one over the other, but that they were both good in different ways. I don't watch that much TV and am really only planning on using it for movies, so is there anything I should be aware of? Also, what is the expected life of these units? I realize that they are both pretty new, but it'd be nice to know how many years they should last. Basically, both televisions are good for what their price range is, so really you can't go too wrong. Your best bet is to look at the pros/cons of both the specific models and of plasma vs. LED in general and make your decision based on that. (Subjective opinion: Go with the plasma, especially if it's to watch movies.)
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SKULE123 posted:Trying to figure out what 3D glasses to get for my incoming ST50 is a confusing proposition. Got some PS3 3D glasses before figuring out they are IR and the TV is RF / Bluetooth. Get the ones from panasonic.
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Don Lapre posted:Get the ones from panasonic. These are the correct ones for the ST50. http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TY-...ywords=TY-ER3D4 They went to RF/Bluetooth universal spec for the 2012 models. These Samsung glasses have also been confirmed as working just fine with the 2012 line Panasonic models. http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SSG-4...rsal+3d+glasses They are considerably cheaper, but they don't have a rechargeable battery and are made a bit cheaper. I've been thinking about picking up a few sets of these as "extra" 3d glasses so more than two people can watch 3d on my TV (I got two pairs of the panasonic ones free with my tv.) bull3964 fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Nov 22, 2012 |
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That is exactly what I was thinking - a Panasonic pair for me, and figure out what the cheaper alternatives were for guest glasses. Those Samsungs (or the rechargeable variants) seem like the way to go. Thanks!
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http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIERA-TC-P50U50-50-Inch-Plasma/dp/B00752VLRC/ref=sr_1_3?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1353613100&sr=1-3 If I buy this TV will I be a sad panda? I don't give a poo poo about smartness and I don't have much to hook up to it. Just the basics.
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AlternateAccount posted:http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIERA-TC-P50U50-50-Inch-Plasma/dp/B00752VLRC/ref=sr_1_3?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1353613100&sr=1-3
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Oh. Smallish space. I much prefer the color and contrast of plasma and lighting is not an issue. I suppose I will do it. I need a tv and probably won't find something better for much less.
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At this point you might as well wait in case you catch an even better deal this weekend, but otherwise nothing that cheap will be that good for the most part.
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I would like a new tv. We want a 32" 1080p that is as slim/thin as possible and if it can play netflix that is cool, too. Samsung has a 32" smart tv (amazon) for $328, but not super slim. To get a slim one we seem to have to jump to a $598 "3D" model (amazon. That is a bit much, especially considering I have no depth perception and that 3D poo poo will be lost on me. Is there a middle ground or something more suitable someone can recommend? We are not huge TV people, so we don't want anything bigger than 32" in our tiny living room, and the more minimal it is, the better. Also, not that I really care, but can some one tell me if we should want an LED vs an LCD or even plasma? LED isn't mentioned in the OP, which seems a bit outdated. And at 32" is demanding 1080p silly? The tv we have right now is 25", but even it is 1080p (it is a HISENSE that I won at an office party, lol)!
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Kaluza-Klein posted:Also, not that I really care, but can some one tell me if we should want an LED vs an LCD or even plasma? LED isn't mentioned in the OP, which seems a bit outdated. And at 32" is demanding 1080p silly? The tv we have right now is 25", but even it is 1080p (it is a HISENSE that I won at an office party, lol)! Can't really help you on the television front because I don't know a lot about models in that size. However, I imagine it's not going to be easy. When we're talking about the lower priced smaller models, no longer conforming to a slim design is the easiest way to cut costs, way more than the 3D and SmartTV features.
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Samsung and Panasonic make 42" and 43" plasmas, respectively, though only Panasonic has a sub-50" 1080p display plasma (UT50). The rest are 720p. At 32", you can get 1080p LCD displays from most, if not all manufacturers. Finding the "best" one in terms of quality-for-price will take some research. I'd start with LG. Their small/budget ( <45") displays are some of the best for color accuracy and brightness, though they tend not to have the deepest blacks. I'd check Toshiba and Vizio as well. I'd leave Samsung and Sony for last, given their prices. As for Panasonic, I know almost nothing about their non-plasma televisions. Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Nov 23, 2012 |
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Vizio has a 32" 3d smarttv in the $300 range, only drawback is its ccfl instead of led.
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Can anyone comment on this Samsung 51" Plasma vs the thread favorite Panasonic 50" plasma? The advantage of the Samsung is, at the same price as the Panasonic, my local BestBuy has one available for pickup and will also take it back in store if I don't like it. The other model I am strongly tempted by is this thing which is a measly $180 today only. Someone posted it earlier and I'm tempted because I love saving money and saving a cool $400 relative to the plasmas might make the drop in image quality worthwhile. VVV Are you referencing the $180 LCD or the Plasma? Chimp_On_Stilts fucked around with this message at 09:37 on Nov 23, 2012 |
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^^^A buddy of mine works at a best buy, he told me they had like 150 in stock for blackfriday. I worked though midnight so my brother and mom went together to get in line for it. Even though they got there at like, 7-8pm the TVs ran out way before they got to them. I am assuming there was less than 150 available. So, you can probably put that product to rest unless you live in a small town or something.
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