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Monsieur Pepui
Jun 18, 2005

LE Pepui
I'm sorry to repeat a question I asked but I still didn't get a clear anwser!

I saw that some HD-TVs have an important lag issue. I will soon have a samsung, 40" LNT4061f HD-TV and it will serve for gaming exclusively (as for now).

I wondered if such a model had any lag problem. From what I have read on it, it seems like an high-quality model with not much apparent problems but I'm still curious about this issue.

Thanks a lot!

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tropical
Aug 14, 2003
Ahh say whut?
I bought a Sharp LC37D43U a week ago and I've gotta say I'm pretty drat impressed. I picked it up on a one-day sale at FutureShop for $1169 CDN which seems like a decent price.

I've got it hooked up to HD digital cable and the picture is awesome; I don't even mind the SD picture which I was expecting to be horrible. I'm waiting for a longer component cable from Monoprice to hook my DVD player up so I haven't been able to try that out yet, but I'm assuming it's going to look good too.

The only complaint I have is that my SNES (oh yeah) hooked up with composite video is laggy; it's pretty much unplayable. I don't suppose an s-video adapter would be any better? If not then I won't be upset but it would be fun to bust out Chrono Trigger and F-Zero again.

Tragic Otter
Aug 3, 2000

Monsieur Pepui posted:

I'm sorry to repeat a question I asked but I still didn't get a clear anwser!

I saw that some HD-TVs have an important lag issue. I will soon have a samsung, 40" LNT4061f HD-TV and it will serve for gaming exclusively (as for now).

I wondered if such a model had any lag problem. From what I have read on it, it seems like an high-quality model with not much apparent problems but I'm still curious about this issue.

Thanks a lot!

There should be no lag issues with that HDTV unless you have in the past noticed significant lag with various LCD TVs. Some people are more sensitive then others - apparently, there are a few people who see rainbows in the blacks of Plasmas. But assuming you've looked at the screen in-store and haven't seen problems, you should be good. I have a LNT4065F and I have not seen any problems with lag or blurring.

quote:

The only complaint I have is that my SNES (oh yeah) hooked up with composite video is laggy; it's pretty much unplayable. I don't suppose an s-video adapter would be any better? If not then I won't be upset but it would be fun to bust out Chrono Trigger and F-Zero again.

You can always try, but I wouldn't get my hopes up. Old-school gaming systems tend to look pretty awful on HDTVs, not to mention a wide array of apparently random problems like lag and flickering and blank screens and well, you name it. Your best bet would be to run emulation through a PC.

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




Faceless Clock posted:

There should be no lag issues with that HDTV unless you have in the past noticed significant lag with various LCD TVs. Some people are more sensitive then others - apparently, there are a few people who see rainbows in the blacks of Plasmas. But assuming you've looked at the screen in-store and haven't seen problems, you should be good. I have a LNT4065F and I have not seen any problems with lag or blurring.


You can always try, but I wouldn't get my hopes up. Old-school gaming systems tend to look pretty awful on HDTVs, not to mention a wide array of apparently random problems like lag and flickering and blank screens and well, you name it. Your best bet would be to run emulation through a PC.

S-video is going to be essentially the same, only sharper. The TV lags because it's upconverting from 480i to whatever your native resolution is. I bet if you put a normal cable channel on, and then put on an SDTV with the same channel on side by side, the SD TV will be ahead.

ndrz
Oct 31, 2003

Is this TV any good? It's the size I'm looking for and $550 shipped for a 37" is a decent deal I think.

http://3btech.net/lgm337flpalc.html

Meowrat
Jan 19, 2005
wesley snipes is the best damn quarterback this town's ever seen

bloodytourist posted:

Well it all depends on the set you're connecting it to innit? I agree that on a $500 LCD linked to a PS3 as BluRay it'll be just fine, if you're connecting a Toshiba HDDVD to a Pioneer plasma you might want to spend a little extra.

e:spelling

This is the reason the general public doesn't know anything the new generation of high-definition media. People like bloodytourist who work in consumer electronics tell them incorrect information.

Explain the difference of HD-DVD and Blu-Ray when both are connected via an HDMI cable? What difference does it make if it is a plasma or LCD? You are uninformed about high-definition media and it angers me greatly.

Tragic Otter
Aug 3, 2000

coldfire07 posted:

Is this TV any good? It's the size I'm looking for and $550 shipped for a 37" is a decent deal I think.

http://3btech.net/lgm337flpalc.html

Actually, that's not a TV :colbert:

Yea, here's the thing - sometimes you'll see something that looks like an HDTV and smells like and HDTV but says Monitor, and what's the difference? Well, a Monitor doesn't have a TV tuner. Which doesn't mean you can't get TV at all, just you'll need an external TV Tuner, and those aren't hard to find.

I haven't heard anything about that set and can't find much, either. LG strikes me as a so-so brand, though at that price so-so isn't bad at all. However that set doesn't appear to be made for home use, so I wonder if there will be any ease-of-use issues.

Donkey Kunt
Mar 18, 2006

I'm a cat.
I'm attempting to set a Verizon FiOS remote for someone who just received their service. I looked at the selection of codes Verizon provided for their remote for Sylvannia TVs, but none of them worked.

The television in question is a Sylvannia SSL15D5. I tried Philips TV codes (I read off of a message board that Sylvannia uses Philips parts), and they didn't work either.

If anyone could provide the input code to get the remote to work would be much appreciated.

wigga please
Nov 1, 2006

by mons all madden

Meowrat posted:

Explain the difference of HD-DVD and Blu-Ray when both are connected via an HDMI cable? What difference does it make if it is a plasma or LCD?

I don't think you really got me there? I wasn't saying BluRay is inferior to HDDVD or LCD to plasma (although I'd happily agree on that last one), but that the quality of the cable you connect them with can make a difference.

I've tried and tested this with some cheapo cables, but apparently there's a big difefrence between US cheap cables and EU cheap cables, like 3 times the price.

MegoSteve
May 20, 2004

Just a quick update on my LNT4053H... I think switching to 720p eliminated most of whatever lag there was (that and getting a new controller to replace my thrashed one). There may be a slight lag, but my brain is trained (TM Nintendo) to play on this set now. I got a 417K on Pac-Man CE tonight, which is pretty much where I was before I had problems adjusting to the set. I halfway think part of my issue was my reaction time was being dulled by all the extra bells and whistles in the graphics and the additional area I had to watch.

PipeRifle
Oct 4, 2004

we have catte

Reposted from Coupons' "Cheap HDTV" thread:

Does anyone know about the Polaroid 40" LCD that Walmart has for $875? Seems like a heck of a deal from a brick-and-mortar, what with the ability to return it (walmart has a pretty great return policy) and the built-in warranty and all. Still, reviews of the set are thin on the ground; people who have it seem to love it, but I'm always scouting for more opinions.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5645640

Thoom
Jan 12, 2004

LUIGI SMASH!
I'm looking for a small TV for college. Budget is $3-400. Must be an LCD HDTV with HDMI/HDCP and component inputs. Preferably around 19-26". Will be primarily used with PS3/Wii/360.

Is there anything about the Olevia 323v other than the lovely speakers (which can be replaced by a cheap set of PC speakers) that will bite me in the rear end? I've heard it has ghosting/lag on SD sources (edit: because of de-interlacing), but since all of the above do at least 480p, it shouldn't be a problem right?

Thoom fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Aug 25, 2007

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




PS2 only does 480P for some games, and Wii only does 480P for most games.

Thoom
Jan 12, 2004

LUIGI SMASH!

VulgarandStupid posted:

PS2 only does 480P for some games, and Wii only does 480P for most games.

That would certainly be a problem if I was planning to hook a PS2 up to it. Which Wii games don't do 480p?

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




Thoom posted:

That would certainly be a problem if I was planning to hook a PS2 up to it. Which Wii games don't do 480p?

No where near complete, but here's list of things.
http://www.hdtvarcade.com/hdtvforum/index.php?autocom=custom&page=wii
Anyway, it won't really make that much of a difference.

Did I just misread you before or did you edit your post after? (PS2/3 thing)

Thoom
Jan 12, 2004

LUIGI SMASH!

VulgarandStupid posted:

No where near complete, but here's list of things.
http://www.hdtvarcade.com/hdtvforum/index.php?autocom=custom&page=wii
Anyway, it won't really make that much of a difference.

Did I just misread you before or did you edit your post after? (PS2/3 thing)

Thanks for the info. The only edit I made was to clarify the de-interlacing vs SD issue. You misread me on the PS2/3 thing. No worries.

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck
Can anyone give me some advice on the PHILIPS 42PF7220A? It's $697.00 refurbished and I think it looks like a good deal, but I'm not sure.

It's 720p, which is fine, but I can't find mention of whether it up, or down converts. This tv seems like it will be good for my 360 and cable needs, but will my Wii (at 480p with component cables) format correctly on it? When they list all those resolutions, does that mean I'm in the clear?

Also, other than the fact that It's a refurb, is there anything inherently wrong with this make and model of tv?

Specs:

* Picture/Display
* Aspect ratio : 16:9
* Brightness : 1500 cd/m2
* Diagonal screen size : 42 inch / 107 cm
* Display screen type : HD Plasma panel
* Picture enhancement : Pixel Plus, Progressive Scan, Active Control + Light sensor, 3/2 - 2/2 motion pull down, Widescreen Plus, 3D Combfilter, Contrast Plus
* Screen enhancements : Anti aging circuit, Anti-Reflection coated screen
* Panel resolution : 1024 x 768p
* Contrast ratio (typical) : 10000:1
* Viewing angle : 160° (H) / 160° (V)
* Supported Display Resolution
* Computer formats : 640 x 480 - 60Hz, 800 x 600 - 60Hz, 1024 x 768 - 60Hz, 1366 x 768 - 60Hz
* Video Formats : 640 x 480i - 1Fh, 640 x 480p - 2Fh, 720 x 576i - 1Fh, 720 x 576p - 2Fh, 1280 x 720p - 3Fh, 1920 x 1080i - 2Fh
* Sound
* Sound Enhancement : Smart Sound, Auto Volume Leveller, Digital Signal Processing, Dynamic Bass Enhancement, Graphic Equalizer
* Sound System : Virtual Dolby Surround
* Output power (RMS) : 2 x 15W
* Loudspeakers
* Built-in speakers : 2
* Convenience
* Ease of Installation : Autostore, PLL Digital Tuning, Plug & Play, Automatic Tuning System (ATS)
* Ease of Use : On Screen Display, Side Control, Smart Picture Control, Channel list, Smart Sound Control, Delta Volume per preset
* Remote control type : RC4345/01
* Remote Control : Amp, DVD-R, Multi-functional, Sat, VCR, DVD
* Screen Format Adjustments : 7 Widescreen Modes, Auto Format, Subtitle and Heading Shift
* Child Protection : Child Lock+Parental Control Picture in Picture : HDMI-Component PIP
* Clock : Smart Clock
* Teletext : Closed Captioning Full Text
* Multimedia Applications
* Digital Content Management : Digital Media Reader
* Multimedia connections : USB memory class device
* Playback Formats : JPEG Still pictures, MP3, Slideshow files (.alb)
* Tuner/Reception/Transmission
* TV system : ATSC, NTSC
* Video Playback : NTSC
* Aerial Input : 75 Ohm F-type
* Cable : Digital Cable Ready CableCARD, Unscrambled Digital Cable -QAM
* Connectivity
* Other connections : Cable Card Interface, Monitor out, CVBS, L/R (cinch), SP-DIF in (coaxial), SP-DIF out (coaxial)
* AV 1 : Audio L/R in, CVBS in, RGB+H/V, S-Video Y/C, YPbPr, Component Video in, (1, 2, 3Fh autoranging), Y/C
* AV 2 : Audio L/R in, CVBS, S-Video
* AV 3 : S/PDIF digital coaxial, YPbPr, (1, 2, 3Fh autoranging)
* AV 4 : HDMI
* AV 5 : HDMI
* Front / Side connections : Audio left/right in, CVBS in, Headphone out, S-video in, USB 1.1
* Power
* Power Consumption : 400 W
* Standby power consumption : < 2 W
* Mains power: AC 100 - 240 V, 50/60 Hz
* Ambient temperature : +5 -/+ 40°C
* Dimensions
* Product dimension (WxDxH) inch : 4.1 x 26.8 x 48.8 inch
* Product weight : 38 kg
* Product weight in lbs : 92.6
* Weight incl. Packaging : 55 kg
* Set dimensions (W x H x D) : 1240 x 680 x 104 mm
* Color cabinet : Digital Silver Set and Stand color (10810)
* VESA wall mount compatible : 800,400 mm
* Accessories
* Included Accessories : Table top stand

Tragic Otter
Aug 3, 2000

That TV will convert everything, as needed, to 768p, as it is not a 'true' 720p display. A lot of plasmas are like this. I REALLY doubt it downconverts 1080 to 480 and then displays it as 768, that's an old nasty trick that I haven't heard of on any TV made in the last few years, and there isn't any information online to suggest it does.

The only thing of note is that those specs don't show it supporting 1080p input.

As for the quality of the TV, well. I can't say it's good. But it does display HD and it is cheap, so if that's all you want, then go for it.

Liquid Penguins
Feb 18, 2006

by Cowcaster
Grimey Drawer
I honestly know very little about HDTVs except I want one, I'm moving into a dorm soon and I would like a 23" or 26" TV, and I have about $500 to spend. I saw a $400 26" Insignia one in an ad that ends today and I was thinking of getting that but people are telling me that the brand sucks. Some recommendations would be cool, and I'm going to a few stores later today to see what types of deals I can get. What good/bad things should I look for when buying?

edit: I just saw this, is it any good? http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5623471

Liquid Penguins fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Aug 25, 2007

Blood fart
Jun 27, 2006

Do not crinkle your food wrappers loudly.
Be considerate to others, or I will bite your torso and give you a disease.
Does anyone know if there's possibly a piece of calibration software or anything that you can burn onto a disc and watch on your DVD player that lets you fine-tune your TV to get the right color/contrast/brightness, etc.. ?

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




Blood fart posted:

Does anyone know if there's possibly a piece of calibration software or anything that you can burn onto a disc and watch on your DVD player that lets you fine-tune your TV to get the right color/contrast/brightness, etc.. ?

AVIA???

Blood fart
Jun 27, 2006

Do not crinkle your food wrappers loudly.
Be considerate to others, or I will bite your torso and give you a disease.

VulgarandStupid posted:

AVIA???
I probably should've stated "are there any FREE" ones to download? :)

Tragic Otter
Aug 3, 2000

Blood fart posted:

I probably should've stated "are there any FREE" ones to download? :)

You could go to avsforums.com and see if there is a calibration thread for your set. People often post settings that work for them. It's free.

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck

Faceless Clock posted:

That TV will convert everything, as needed, to 768p, as it is not a 'true' 720p display. A lot of plasmas are like this. I REALLY doubt it downconverts 1080 to 480 and then displays it as 768, that's an old nasty trick that I haven't heard of on any TV made in the last few years, and there isn't any information online to suggest it does.

The only thing of note is that those specs don't show it supporting 1080p input.

As for the quality of the TV, well. I can't say it's good. But it does display HD and it is cheap, so if that's all you want, then go for it.

Why is it not a true 720p display?

What specs indicate that it's of questionable quality?

Tragic Otter
Aug 3, 2000

The Ferret King posted:

Why is it not a true 720p display?

What specs indicate that it's of questionable quality?

Because it's 1024*768. The 720p or 1080p designation is based off the pixel count of the two 'main' formats, those being 1280x720 and 1980x1080. So that Plasma is not 720p, it's 768p. Not that it's a big disadvantage, or anything, in fact Panasonic and Pioneer both have made extensive use of 1024*768 screens, and their sets are great.

This does mean, however, that some degree of conversion is taking place, no matter what you send it's way. Not a big deal. Just something to keep in mind.

Nothing about it's specs that indicate it's of questionable quality. It's not even of "questionable" quality. It will likely run well and look pretty good. However, it's not a good TV. A good TV (like a Panasonic plasma, or Samsung LCD) will blow it out of the water.

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck

Faceless Clock posted:

Nothing about it's specs that indicate it's of questionable quality. It's not even of "questionable" quality. It will likely run well and look pretty good. However, it's not a good TV. A good TV (like a Panasonic plasma, or Samsung LCD) will blow it out of the water.

Are there other TVs for a similar price that are "good?"

And at what point does a TVs specs bump it into the "good" range? If this TV isn't good, what is it? I'm really confused by your classification of this television. When I here "not good" I think "bad." Maybe you mean this TV is mediocre, and that seems like a reasonable opinions. Just clarifying.

Are all Panasonic Plasmas or Samsung LCDs good? Or are some of their cheaper ones not good?

I'm really just trying to avoid a mistake with this television. Though for the price maybe it doesn't warrant such scrutiny.

Drewski
Apr 15, 2005

Good thing Vader didn't touch my bike. Good thing for him.
I have a $1500 budget for buying an HDTV. Right now I'm looking at the Hyundai e465d. It's got a 5000:1 contrast ratio, which is pretty awesome for LCD from what I hear, but not even CNET has a complete review on the TV, which worries me. But for the money it *seems* like a great TV. But like I said, nobody seems to be even talking about this TV at all, and I don't want to spend money for a POS. For $1500 shipped, can anyone recommend to me a better television?

Newegg link

CNET page

Tragic Otter
Aug 3, 2000

The Ferret King posted:

Are there other TVs for a similar price that are "good?"

And at what point does a TVs specs bump it into the "good" range? If this TV isn't good, what is it? I'm really confused by your classification of this television. When I here "not good" I think "bad." Maybe you mean this TV is mediocre, and that seems like a reasonable opinions. Just clarifying.

Are all Panasonic Plasmas or Samsung LCDs good? Or are some of their cheaper ones not good?

I'm really just trying to avoid a mistake with this television. Though for the price maybe it doesn't warrant such scrutiny.

No, they're are not any TVs for that price that are good. Prices haven't come down that much.

Specs don't bump anything into the good range, really. A good TV is good because of it's color accuracy, feature set, and the depth of black, among other things. These aren't listed on a spec sheet. A in-depth review will talk about these things - CNET does this, so do some magazines, and Consumer Reports.

If you're not willing to spend at least ~1200 for a 42" HDTV, you're going to have to make some compromises.

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men
I got a new roommate and he has a 65" Mitsubishi 1080i RPTV with a strange problem I don't know anything about. When watching regular content that has black borders on the side everything looks normal. But when viewing HD content and the borders are gone, the picture looks slightly different where the borders used to be. The colors are a little bit lighter on the sides. I'm not really sure what causes that.

wigga please
Nov 1, 2006

by mons all madden

Faceless Clock posted:

Specs don't bump anything into the good range, really. A good TV is good because of it's color accuracy, feature set, and the depth of black, among other things. These aren't listed on a spec sheet. A in-depth review will talk about these things - CNET does this, so do some magazines, and Consumer Reports.

Let's bury our differences from the last page, because this here is what needs to be said more often. Make it the thread title or something.

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck

Faceless Clock posted:

If you're not willing to spend at least ~1200 for a 42" HDTV, you're going to have to make some compromises.

This is a refurbished model I'm looking at. Google says this set sells for $1300 - $1600 at other store websites. (private listings show this TV going for $1000). This television falls within your pricing guidelines.

EDIT: In my google searching for reviews, I'm hearing conflicting things about this TV's reliability. So I'm gonna have to weigh the cost/benefit ratio.

The Ferret King fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Aug 26, 2007

Mad_Hatter
Oct 31, 2000
I wasted 10 bucks
P.S. I love Phat_Albert
Anyone have any experience with the Samsung HLT5075S. It's selling on amazon for $880 with free shipping, and it seems like a pretty good deal in that price range.

pseudo neo
Jul 23, 2007
Could anyone recommend a 20+ inch TV in the price range of 500-600$ ?

So far the Viewsonic N2635w HD LCD TV - 26"
and Olevia Black 32"

Of course the larger is slightly more appealing but since the budget is quite small the picture quality of the larger models will lack some, or so I think. One point is that it will mostly be playing non HD TV and non HD DVDS.

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




CubanMissile posted:

I got a new roommate and he has a 65" Mitsubishi 1080i RPTV with a strange problem I don't know anything about. When watching regular content that has black borders on the side everything looks normal. But when viewing HD content and the borders are gone, the picture looks slightly different where the borders used to be. The colors are a little bit lighter on the sides. I'm not really sure what causes that.

Burn in. Make sure you're watching your SD-TV stuff in full screen mode from now on or you'll only make the problem worse.

RhymesWithTendon
Oct 12, 2000

I'm looking to buy my first HDTV, and I'm considering these two 720p models:

Sony KDL-46S3000 LCD (Amazon | CNET review )
Panasonic TH-42PX75U Plasma (Amazon | CNET review )

The CNET review for the Panasonic is actually for the TH-42PX77U, but the only differences are that the 77U has an anti-glare coating on the screen and side-mounted speakers instead of bottom-mounted, neither of which I'm concerned about.

I've skimmed the first few and last few pages of this thread, which have shown me that (a) a couple of people are very enthusiastic about Panasonic, and (b) the only perceived disadvantage with Sony is the price, which is only a $120 difference in this case.

Here are my concerns:

I and my roommates are going to use the TV primarily for gaming on an Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and Wii, in that order. The FAQ in the OP warns of LCDs having a lag problem, but this other FAQ leads me to believe that lag isn't really an issue with consoles that output in high-definition. The Wii can actually only go up to 480p, but will upscaling lag be an issue if it's really only one step up? I couldn't find reaction time statistics on either model, so should I be wary of delay on Sony's LCD, or will the consoles' HD output and Sony's quality make this a non-issue?

Also, the Panasonic's native resolution stood out to me as being unusual. Both models have 16x9 screens (16 / 9 = 1.77...). The Panasonic's native resolution is 1024x768 (1024 / 768 = 1.33...), so doesn't that mean it will basically display a 4:3 image on a 16:9 screen, making things appear stretched? The Sony's native resolution is 1366x768 (1366 / 768 = 1.77864583). Neither of these is "true" 720p, but the Sony's is a lot closer to that, and to the screen's actual size. Is there going to be a noticeable difference between these sets because of the resolution, or am I being paranoid over nothing?

I should probably ask, are there any better models available that I might be overlooking? I'm looking for something in the neighborhood of forty inches, and at that size I don't think I'll notice the difference between 720p and 1080p, so the lesser is fine if it'll save me some money.

RhymesWithTendon fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Aug 27, 2007

milkfacts
Aug 13, 2007

Connellingus posted:

I'm looking to buy my first HDTV, and I'm considering these two 720p models:

Sony KDL-46S3000 LCD (Amazon | CNET review )
Panasonic TH-42PX75U Plasma (Amazon | CNET review )

The CNET review for the Panasonic is actually for the TH-42PX77U, but the only differences are that the 77U has an anti-glare coating on the screen and side-mounted speakers instead of bottom-mounted, neither of which I'm concerned about.

I've skimmed the first few and last few pages of this thread, which have shown me that (a) a couple of people are very enthusiastic about Panasonic, and (b) the only perceived disadvantage with Sony is the price, which is only a $120 difference in this case.

Here are my concerns:

I and my roommates are going to use the TV primarily for gaming on an Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and Wii, in that order. The FAQ in the OP warns of LCDs having a lag problem, but this other FAQ leads me to believe that lag isn't really an issue with consoles that output in high-definition. The Wii can actually only go up to 480p, but will upscaling lag be an issue if it's really only one step up? I couldn't find reaction time statistics on either model, so should I be wary of delay on Sony's LCD, or will the consoles' HD output and Sony's quality make this a non-issue?

Also, the Panasonic's native resolution stood out to me as being unusual. Both models have 16x9 screens (16 / 9 = 1.77...). The Panasonic's native resolution is 1024x768 (1024 / 768 = 1.33...), so doesn't that mean it will basically display a 4:3 image on a 16:9 screen, making things appear stretched? The Sony'snative resolution is 1366x768 (1366 / 768 = 1.77864583). Neither of these is "true" 720p, but the Sony's is a lot closer to that, and to the screen's actual size. Is there going to be a noticeable difference between these sets because of the resolution, or am I being paranoid over nothing?

I should probably ask, are there any better models available that I might be overlooking? I'm looking for something in the neighborhood of forty inches, and at that size I don't think I'll notice the difference between 720p and 1080p, so the lesser is fine if it'll save me some money.

You might want to consider looking at a Samsung plasma: the HP-T4264. It has a lot more inputs than the Panasonic for relatively similar price (you may even want to look at 50 inch models--- you said you were loooking for forty inches but if your room can handle it you will be happier).

In terms of the resolution I don't think it will be too big of a deal for gaming. You can go to widescreengaming forums and find a bunch of mouthbreathing neckbeards bitch about how sometimes they can or can not see 20% extra POV but these are people with nothing else better to do.

wigga please
Nov 1, 2006

by mons all madden
Just got the Pana 50PY700 in! It's incredible the way they use the new coating. Basically you get the matte surface of an LCD, but with the black levels of a shiny plasma.

Only bad thing about it is that it's a full hd panel, which always seems to be a reason to have terrible noise when compared to lower resolution sets? We've tested this both through HDMI and component, with the same results.

Actually the best plasmas I've seen so far were the ones with 1024*768 resolution, like the 42PV70, the cheapest model in the 42" range. Only tech nerds seem to buy the full hd sets, ignoring the actual picture but basing their purchase on tech specs :rolleye:

Evi|Sycho
Sep 9, 2001

Sexy Time!
I'm also considering new TVs. This will be for my bedroom, and I the majority of viewing will be from 6-8 feet away. My budget is around $2000 give or take a few hundred, though I'd still like to get decent value. I'm not going to be totally anal about the quality. I only have a Wii for casual gaming, so high performance isn't an issue. 1080p isn't mandatory. I plan on connecting a Mac Mini to use as a media box, and plan on watching a lot of HD content, mostly 720p content; a lot of movies. 1080p would be nice, but I think for the size I'm considering it's not a big influence. I plan on watching a lot of HD sports content as well.

I've been looking at the Sony KBR-40XBR2 panel. I'm curious whether it is worth the price increase over similarly sized panels. Are there any alternatives I should look at?

Vilkata
Jun 22, 2004

So I'm about to purchase my first HDTV and I'm thinking about the Samsung LNT4042H. Circuit City has it for $999.99 this week and I'm really tempted to order it right now. Does anyone here have any experiences with this set? I'm going to be using it for a lot of gaming and moderate TV watching. Any tips for a first time HDTV buyer would be greatly appreciated also.

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Mistikman
Jan 21, 2001

I was born ready. I'm Ron Fucking Swanson.
I'm going to be in the market for an LCD HDTV in the near future.

My requirements are as follows:

HDMI and DVI connectors, along with some s-video and component
1080p
$1500 budget
Good upconverting ability

I have little to no idea what I am looking for, and want to get something with a decent bang:buck ratio.

Anyone know of any good sets?

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