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SoulChicken
Sep 19, 2003

mek it fuhnki

.Nathan. posted:

Also Panasonic's new 50" 1080p plasmas will start coming out in less than 2 weeks, so personally i'd wait until then. They look to be amazing value for money based on everything i've read, but we'll have to wait and see.


oh ok ill wait then eh?

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Viper_3000
Apr 26, 2005

I could give a shit about all that.

SoulChicken posted:

So just to be quite clear before I go and drop $2100, the 50" Kuro 720p plasma looks to me to be a better buy than the equivalently priced Panasonic 50" 1080p plasma. I have a fixed seven foot viewing distance.

I have no 1080p sources at the moment but i imagine at some point i will get a bluray.

Am I good to go and drop the cash? The kuro seems sexier too.

Thanks for your opinions... it comes down to this. I was going 40" but then I saw the 50" and thought "hmmm $500, for that or a PS3" because I like convincing myself with horribly one sided questions.

Personally I have a hard time deciding between the Kuro and the Panasonic. The only thing that I have holding me against buying a 1080p Panasonic is the fact that they don't support 1080/24p at multiples of the original frame. Other than that, they're fantastic and the best price:performance displays in my opinion.

.Nathan.
Jun 29, 2004

by Fistgrrl

Viper_3000 posted:

Personally I have a hard time deciding between the Kuro and the Panasonic. The only thing that I have holding me against buying a 1080p Panasonic is the fact that they don't support 1080/24p at multiples of the original frame. Other than that, they're fantastic and the best price:performance displays in my opinion.

New Panasonic models will display 24p without 3:2. You'd probably have a tough time even finding a 700u at this point. Panasonic stopped shipment a bit ago to make room for the 80/85 series which arrive on the 24th.

SoulChicken
Sep 19, 2003

mek it fuhnki
Well I took a look at the AVS forums and they said they had stopped making the 720p kuro so.... im going to wait it out, to see what new models they come out with and check the new panasonics. phew.

Christobevii3
Jul 3, 2006
gently caress YOU PANASONIC! My tv i picked up in the second week of november has been broken since january 20th. They replaced the broken boards once and brought it back and the exact same problem occured when we tried to turn it on. Back it went and still have no working tv.

They are promising friday now as the earliest it will be back, but having 2 repairs in roughly 3 months, being out almost a month, it being my only tv, and them never calling back when they say (just call everyday myself so I know what is going on); has removed all confidence I could possible have with this tv. To throw into the fact too, I now only have 9 more months of warranty on a part that only lasted 2 months to begin with.

If my tv isn't working by friday or has another problem soon I will probably just get a lawyer since panasonic has nobody that can take complaints or do anything about it, so the court can figure this poo poo out.

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

👽
So I filled out the amazon 18month no interest thing, and they said they would mail me saying if I qualify or not. If I'm not auto approved, then it pretty much means no right?

I really want this tv
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-HPT4254-42-Plasma-HDTV/dp/B000NEJYZA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=audio-video&qid=1202074404&sr=1-3

price looks to be dropping a bit though. was 1068 on the 5th.

revengeanceful
Sep 26, 2006

Glory, glory Man United!
That doesn't necessarily mean the price is going to keep going down. I've been keeping an eye on the Samsung LCD LN-4042H on Amazon, and the price went up from 999.98 to 1068 a couple days ago.

Viper_3000
Apr 26, 2005

I could give a shit about all that.

.Nathan. posted:

New Panasonic models will display 24p without 3:2. You'd probably have a tough time even finding a 700u at this point. Panasonic stopped shipment a bit ago to make room for the 80/85 series which arrive on the 24th.

OH MY GOD I LOVE YOU. Well, not you but Panasonic. This seals the deal over a Kuro for me. The extra smidgen of darkness in the blacks on the Kuro isn't worth the $1000 extra.

SoulChicken
Sep 19, 2003

mek it fuhnki
So they arrive on the 24th? Sweet. Is it best to wait a couple of months or do you think the price will be pretty sticky? (i.e. what happened last year?)

jazzmegood
Aug 13, 2005

POPCORN GUN MAN
Some wonders lurk in this stuff.
EAT POPCORN! EVERYBODY!!
Looking to pull the trigger on the purchase of a 52-inch 1080p LCD this weekend. I've been shopping around, and have narrowed my choices down to three:

Toshiba Regza 52HL167 $1799 at my local TigerDirect store
Sharp Aquos LC-52D62U $1899, also at TigerDirect
Samsung LN-T5265F $2249 after 10% off sale at CircuitCity

Anyone have any recommendations? I've looked at all three in person and the picture seems comparable to me. I do admit I've been a fan of Samsung products and have heard their HDTVs were highly rated, but is it worth the extra cost?

Other than normal TV use, I will also be using it as an HTPC monitor, as well as using it as a straight-up PC monitor. I like to have a wireless keyboard/mouse and just surf the web from the couch. It is this reason which is why I'm staying away from Plasma.

If anyone has any info to help steer me one way or the other, I'm all ears.

EDIT: Decided to duck out of work a bit early to go shop around one last time. While in Circuit City, a customer told me that HHGregg does price match + 10% of difference, so I went there and told them about the $1799 Toshiba at TigerDirect. They did offer me the price match, BUT since I also expressed interest in the Samsung, they offered it to me for $1850, so that's what I chose. Getting ready to grab a friend's van and go pick it up here in about an hour.

jazzmegood fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Feb 15, 2008

.Nathan.
Jun 29, 2004

by Fistgrrl

SoulChicken posted:

So they arrive on the 24th? Sweet. Is it best to wait a couple of months or do you think the price will be pretty sticky? (i.e. what happened last year?)

That's what i hear. The price might drop and there will be sales as usual, but most places will price match within 30-60 days, so it's not a big deal. Even at MSRP i think the prices will be extremely competitive, and with the big sales Sears, CC, and BB usually have every couple of weeks, i think these sets are going to raise the bar on price/performance.

Dirp
May 16, 2007
I just received my Toshiba 32HL67U in the mail yesterday from amazon and set it up and I'm having a really serious problem with it. I what is happening is called ghosting, and its doing it really really bad. Any movement on the screen has a trail behind it that lasts for at least 1 second and it makes watching TV impossible. Did I get a broken TV in the mail or is there any way to fix this? Right now I'm thinking I'm gonna have to mail it back and get a new one unfortunately.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Dirp posted:

I just received my Toshiba 32HL67U in the mail yesterday from amazon and set it up and I'm having a really serious problem with it. I what is happening is called ghosting, and its doing it really really bad. Any movement on the screen has a trail behind it that lasts for at least 1 second and it makes watching TV impossible. Did I get a broken TV in the mail or is there any way to fix this? Right now I'm thinking I'm gonna have to mail it back and get a new one unfortunately.

Edit: whoops, misread something.

I was wondering if it was temp related to shipping, but I see you said you got it yesterday.

ChaoticSeven
Aug 11, 2005

.Nathan. posted:

Nope. It's pretty much the most awesome thing ever. Hit 'Play 360' -> remote changes TV input, receiver input, turns on 360. Or i could hit the device button, hit TV, scroll through the list until i find the input button, hit that, hit device again, choose receiver, find the input button, hit that. Then when i wanted to change the volume i could hit device, choose receiver, turn down volume, but oh no, i want to change channels, time to hit device button, choose TV, change channel. So yeah, using the Harmony remotes any other way is retarded. Also the Harmony One looks amazing.

I couldn't live without my 880, it's by far the best A/V gadget i own.

Edit: And the interface can allow incredibly complex set-ups. Anyone who can't program their Harmony to do what they want hasn't tried hard enough. From setting devices' power on order, input delay times, times for devices to start up, etc. The wizard gives you a basic set-up, but if you need something more complex then just go to the other menus that let you adjust each activity how you want.

I must be retarded. I set up the remote (659) with the software and the macros work fine, but if, say, I want to turn the volume down I have to hit device, tv, then turn it down. Then to navigate the dvd menus on the 360 I have to go back to the device menu and choose the 360 again. Otherwise the arrow keys won't work. What the gently caress?

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

👽
So I just got a response from amazon and they said that they won't give me there cc due to no credit (im 20, live at home, and only have 1 cc)

Is it easier to get these cards in store? I have the money to buy the tv, but I'd rather get the tv on a card, wait the 18 months while my money sits in a online bank account, and then pay it off. This way I can build some credit.

I might goto bestbuy today and ask, or is it not worth my time?

Christobevii3
Jul 3, 2006
Harminoff since you have the money, get a regular credit card that adds a year of warranty to your electronics purchase. You will have to pay it off quick but will be worth it for that extra year of warranty. You might be able to get one that gives you 5% back too on your first months purchase or something too.

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

👽

Christobevii3 posted:

Harminoff since you have the money, get a regular credit card that adds a year of warranty to your electronics purchase. You will have to pay it off quick but will be worth it for that extra year of warranty. You might be able to get one that gives you 5% back too on your first months purchase or something too.

Is there anyplace online that I can get a cc in like a day? Since I would like to get the tv this weekend.

My cc has a 500 limit, could I just max that out and pay the rest in cash?


edit: ok I am about to goto my local stores to look at tv's. I am looking for a 32-42" for under 1k. What should I be looking at? I want best picture possible with a pc kind of input to hook my htpc upto it.

This is for a bedroom with a viewing distance of 5'6"

thanks for all the help guys

Harminoff fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Feb 16, 2008

dphi
Jul 9, 2001

Harminoff posted:

Is there anyplace online that I can get a cc in like a day? Since I would like to get the tv this weekend.

I got approved for a Circuit City credit card instantly online.

noss
Jun 9, 2003
I was a teenage abortion

dphi posted:

I got approved for a Circuit City credit card instantly online.

Just for the record, CC uses Chase bank and they will approve ANYONE for WAY more money than they should. *still paying*

Jota
May 6, 2003

uga-booga uga-booga

therapy posted:

Anyone have any thoughts on the Sony Bravia 40" LCD?

Here's the link

It's for sale for like $1200 right now, which sounds like a good deal. But I've had some bad experiences with sony CD players and such in the past. Are the Bravia TVs good? Is this a good deal?

I just bought this in the 46 inch version and the picture is amazing. No clouding or banding issues. 1080p on my Playstation looks ridiculous. I kept dying in Superstar Dust HD because I was sorta staring off at the background and just thinking how fantastic it looked. I would definitely recommend this set to anyone and I am thinking of buying the 40 inch version of it to put in my bedroom.

squirreltactic
Sep 17, 2003

Dirp posted:

I just received my Toshiba 32HL67U in the mail yesterday from amazon and set it up and I'm having a really serious problem with it. I what is happening is called ghosting, and its doing it really really bad. Any movement on the screen has a trail behind it that lasts for at least 1 second and it makes watching TV impossible. Did I get a broken TV in the mail or is there any way to fix this? Right now I'm thinking I'm gonna have to mail it back and get a new one unfortunately.

Yeah, that thing is busted for sure. I just got the 37HL67 and I'm assuming it should be roughly the same as yours. I've got no ghosting at all that I've noticed.

pliable
Sep 26, 2003

this is what u get for "180 x 180 avatars"

this is what u fucking get u bithc
Fun Shoe
For those with the Samsung LNT4071F: This TV auto upconverts, right? I'm trying to do a test and comparing Ratatouille on DVD and Blu-ray (DVD is connected via Component from an Xbox 360, while Blu-ray is connected via HDMI from a PS3), but the DVD looks like it's not even being upscaled. Is the P.Size function the upconverter? Thanks for the info!

Juriko
Jan 28, 2006

pliable posted:

For those with the Samsung LNT4071F: This TV auto upconverts, right? I'm trying to do a test and comparing Ratatouille on DVD and Blu-ray (DVD is connected via Component from an Xbox 360, while Blu-ray is connected via HDMI from a PS3), but the DVD looks like it's not even being upscaled. Is the P.Size function the upconverter? Thanks for the info!

What do you mean by "upconverts". If the video is fitting to the size of the screen it is being upscaled/upconverted.

pliable
Sep 26, 2003

this is what u get for "180 x 180 avatars"

this is what u fucking get u bithc
Fun Shoe

Juriko posted:

What do you mean by "upconverts". If the video is fitting to the size of the screen it is being upscaled/upconverted.

I mean taking a 480p signal and upconverting to 720p or 1080i/p.

mack
Mar 6, 2005
I'm looking to get a 32inch LCD 720p set soon but I had a few questions.

First of all, at this size does brand make a big difference? Is the Toshiba, Samsung, Sharp worth the extra 100-200 over the Westinghouse, Vizo, Olivera, etc? Keep in mind that I'll most likely be using this TV for the next 5-10 years for sure. I don't plan on getting a bigger 1080p until it becomes more mainstream.

Next, I'll be using this set mostly for cable TV, Wii, SNES, N64, 360, and DVDs on a PS2. Is there anything I should be looking for (ex. 2-3 HDMI ports, 2 Component, contrast ratios, extra special features that would benefit me for my use)?

I was looking at the Toshiba REGZA 32HL67U and it seems pretty nice as far as I know, but then again I know almost nothing about HDTVs. I just don't want to pick up a set only to find out later that it would of been better for me to grab the cheap Vizo or instead the better Samsung.

Dolemite
Jun 30, 2005
I'm looking at getting a new TV and I'd like to get a HDTV. I'm looking for a TV that has the best response time for games like Guitar Hero and Rock Band. What TVs are good for these kinds of games? When reading a specs sheet, what is a good response time to shoot for? I'm looking at the Sony Vizio VX32LHDTV and it lists a response time of 8ms. Is this good? Or do I need to aim lower? Or heck, is response time even the right thing on a specs sheet to look for?

TheJetCityFix
Feb 3, 2004

Errday I'm Russellin'

Dolemite posted:

I'm looking at getting a new TV and I'd like to get a HDTV. I'm looking for a TV that has the best response time for games like Guitar Hero and Rock Band. What TVs are good for these kinds of games? When reading a specs sheet, what is a good response time to shoot for? I'm looking at the Sony Vizio VX32LHDTV and it lists a response time of 8ms. Is this good? Or do I need to aim lower? Or heck, is response time even the right thing on a specs sheet to look for?

Sony doesn't make the Vizio, Vizio makes Vizio. Anyway, I just got a 37" Vizio, and I love it to death, and I played both Rock Band and Guitar Hero 3 with no problems yesterday.

CloFan
Nov 5, 2004

http://tinyurl.com/ytsnjn

Yea or Nay? I almost can't help myself.

Christobevii3
Jul 3, 2006

CloFan posted:

http://tinyurl.com/ytsnjn

Yea or Nay? I almost can't help myself.

That's a pretty good price if you can add a 3 year warranty for like $100

topenga
Jul 1, 2003

ChaoticSeven posted:

I must be retarded. I set up the remote (659) with the software and the macros work fine, but if, say, I want to turn the volume down I have to hit device, tv, then turn it down. Then to navigate the dvd menus on the 360 I have to go back to the device menu and choose the 360 again. Otherwise the arrow keys won't work. What the gently caress?

During setup, the wizard is supposed to ask you what you use for volume control and give you a list of options based on what is in your setup. If you use the tv for sound (instead of areceiver) you needed to select "tv". That way, when you are in your activity you can adjust your volume without switching to a device.

Shaffe
Feb 4, 2005
Looking at purchasing a Samsung HLT5087SAX(http://tinyurl.com/36qxj5).

Anything overwhelmingly horrible with this set that I am missing? Mostly will be used for videogames and dvds.

Ham Session
Feb 23, 2006
I'm thinking of buying an LCD HDTV or DLP HDTV, and I need some recommendations, I want to use the television for gaming and watching movies as well as using it as a monitor, is there any television that is around 32" that fits these needs (or larger television if needed).

The one I've been looking at is the Sharp Aquos LC32D62U due to high contrast ratio and ability to do 1080p (which is nice for monitor applications).

Ham Session fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Feb 18, 2008

Nannypea
Feb 20, 2006

Faster, you naughty little monkey!
Need help finding a TV for gaming. I'm looking around 27' and would like to stay under $500 (less would be better). This TV will only be used for Wii gaming. I had originally thought 32' but it seems 27' would be better. Any and all recommendations/suggestions would be appreciated.

I've been shopping and I've gotten overwhelmed with all the choices.

.Nathan.
Jun 29, 2004

by Fistgrrl

Christobevii3 posted:

That's a pretty good price if you can add a 3 year warranty for like $100

Haha, why the gently caress would you buy a warranty in the first place, let alone for a $500 TV.

ChaoticSeven
Aug 11, 2005

topenga posted:

During setup, the wizard is supposed to ask you what you use for volume control and give you a list of options based on what is in your setup. If you use the tv for sound (instead of areceiver) you needed to select "tv". That way, when you are in your activity you can adjust your volume without switching to a device.

Yep, I did that. I should have used receiver as my volume example though, as I route all audio through that and my TV is always turned all the way down. I've tried redoing the setup a couple times now, I still have to do it the way I described.

Also the DVD control buttons are in a really goofy spot all the way on the very bottom of the remote, what up with that?

Christobevii3
Jul 3, 2006

.Nathan. posted:

Haha, why the gently caress would you buy a warranty in the first place, let alone for a $500 TV.

Most people like to keep their stuff for a long time, and on a low end tv it is often hard to find parts you would need. You laugh, but once you get hosed over by panasonic like me you'll realize what it is worth. $1500 tv, 2 months, still in for repairs for over a month... They've replaced all three controller boards and are now replacing the panel.

Donkey Kunt
Mar 18, 2006

I'm a cat.
For 2008, has there been any announcements about TVs using Cablecard 2.0/iDCR technology?

pliable posted:

For those with the Samsung LNT4071F: This TV auto upconverts, right? I'm trying to do a test and comparing Ratatouille on DVD and Blu-ray (DVD is connected via Component from an Xbox 360, while Blu-ray is connected via HDMI from a PS3), but the DVD looks like it's not even being upscaled. Is the P.Size function the upconverter? Thanks for the info!

DVDs do no upscale using component inputs. It's a standard set by the DVD consortium. If your XBox does not have HDMI out, try VGA out. VGA output allows upscaling.

.Nathan.
Jun 29, 2004

by Fistgrrl

Moo Moo Bells posted:

For 2008, has there been any announcements about TVs using Cablecard 2.0/iDCR technology?

Panasonic, Samsung, and LG based on CES products. Hard to say for sure, though, as their release looks to be a little ways off.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/07/panasonic-first-to-announce-hdtvs-featuring-tru2way/
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/10/tru2way-tvs-at-ces-2008/

Christobevii3
Jul 3, 2006
Here is my thread on the avs forum if anyone is considering to buy PANASONIC and how it has gone having a lemon tv:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=983539

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Tufkal
Dec 9, 2003
Your Reality Check (TM)
I just purchased a 37" 720p LCD HDTV LINK from BestBuy, and I plan on taking full advantage of the 30 day no questions asked return policy. I want to put this set through the ringer and make sure it's up to spec. After some research I decided to try a Insignia, as it's a reboxed LG branded for BestBuy, at a good price.

I know there are several things to look for, (ghosting, lag, etc), but most of them I don't understand.

I have at my disposal to test with :
Wii w/ Component cables (ZTP and SMG only games I have)
TV has VGA input, and I have a laptop
Standard RCA cable DVD player

I know how to test for dead pixels, as i've done it to LCDs for PCs for years, but what other things should I look for in these first 30 days, and how do I test for them?

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