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choo choo
Nov 26, 2002

Martytoof posted:

Can you get ANY more information on it? I mean, chances are some redneck out in the middle of nowhere would buy it for $400 or something because BIG TV BOOYEAH, but if I saw an ad for that TV on craigslist I would instantly mash the back button.

Yeah that's pretty much my way of thinking. I don't really need it, nor would I have chosen it, so why would I even pay anything for it when I have to move it out, deal with it, get a place big enough to use it, etc. I think I'll just keep my cash and my current nice looking 27" CRT and save up for one I really want.

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some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 


I just wall-mounted my 37" TV, however I've yet to come up with a suitable cable management solution.

I'm considering just getting a piece of plastic conduit, painting it the same colour as the wall and letting that run down the middle of the TV, which would look acceptable to me.

My question is about my power cable running down the same conduit as my video source cables. Is your standard run of the mill component and HDMI cable shielded well enough that running a PC power cable to my TV right next to it wouldn't have any effect?

choo choo posted:

Yeah that's pretty much my way of thinking. I don't really need it, nor would I have chosen it, so why would I even pay anything for it when I have to move it out, deal with it, get a place big enough to use it, etc. I think I'll just keep my cash and my current nice looking 27" CRT and save up for one I really want.

I think in the end you'll be happy you did. Save that cash -- LCDs are always being phased out for new models so getting a great looking "large" TV for under a thousand bucks is quickly becoming very doable.

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Feb 25, 2008

.Nathan.
Jun 29, 2004

by Fistgrrl

Argyle posted:

Panasonic's new models look pretty sweet, and this one looks like an outstanding value. I've always thought Panasonics have the best picture for the money, and a 42" 720p is perfect for my price range.

Any reason why I shouldn't get this TV? I'll wait to see one in person, but it looks pretty sweet from here.

They're going to be the best sets available other than Pioneer Kuros, and for a lot less money. Even the lowest end 80u models look to out do the 700u models from last year. I plan on picking up a 50" 800u as soon as they're released.

mexecan
Jul 10, 2006
I'm presently in the market for a 37" LCD.

I'm torn between these two:

The Sharp Aquos LC37D43U, which seems to have solid reviews all around, and the Toshiba 37HL57.

Features-wise, they seem pretty closely matched. However, the Toshiba is 719 CDN while the cheapest I've seen the Sharp is 999 CDN.

Sharps seem to have the best rep at this size and price point but is it worth the difference in price? If anyone could offer any input to make this situation easier I'd greatly appreciate it.

uXs
May 3, 2005

Mark it zero!

.Nathan. posted:

They're going to be the best sets available other than Pioneer Kuros, and for a lot less money. Even the lowest end 80u models look to out do the 700u models from last year. I plan on picking up a 50" 800u as soon as they're released.

I still don't get the resolution thing. It says that it has a 720p resolution, but the physical resolution is 1024x768. 720p should be 1280x720, just like a full 1080 should be, and loving is, 1920x1080. This is pretty much the only reason that I'm looking to buy a full 1080p TV, even though it's only going to be a 42'' one.

Edit: btw, 1024 isn't just not 1280, it's lower than 1280. So the picture information has to be stretched in one direction, and compressed in the other. This would look like absolute poo poo on a PC LCD, so I can't imagine it looks good on a TV.

uXs fucked around with this message at 09:46 on Feb 26, 2008

ScooterMcTiny
Apr 7, 2004

mexecan posted:

I'm presently in the market for a 37" LCD.

I'm torn between these two:

The Sharp Aquos LC37D43U, which seems to have solid reviews all around, and the Toshiba 37HL57.

Features-wise, they seem pretty closely matched. However, the Toshiba is 719 CDN while the cheapest I've seen the Sharp is 999 CDN.

Sharps seem to have the best rep at this size and price point but is it worth the difference in price? If anyone could offer any input to make this situation easier I'd greatly appreciate it.

We just got the Sharp two days ago, and it is absolutely gorgeous. Handles SD incredibly well, and HD looks absolutely gorgeous on it. It was $842 from Amazon, and it was worth every penny. Granted, I don't really have much to compare it's quality to, but I don't think there is any way you could be disappointed in this set.

Alucard
Mar 11, 2002


Pillbug
I got upgraded recently from a 26D40U Aquos to a 32D43U Aquos, and I have to say that the feature set in the 43U line is fantastic.

pocket pool
Aug 4, 2003

B U T T S

Bleak Gremlin
An opportunity came up for my wife and I to take advantage of a discount through her employer. We would be able to purchase Philips 47PFL7422D/37 for about $1400, delivered.

Unfortunately, the deal expires the day after tomorrow. So, I'm trying to do as much research as I can. I'm also looking for opinions on the set, though. So, any observations or suggestions you can give would be appreciated.

pocket pool fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Feb 26, 2008

900ftjesus
Aug 10, 2003

Pyros posted:

Panasonic 42"
TH42PZ77
Pros:
- 1080p
- Better picture/quality
Cons:
- 1080p doesn't really matter at 42"
- Could get a 50" 720p for the same price
- Only comes with a 1 year warranty

:siren: Hey, kids, let's learn about a magic credit card feature that's not really advertised by anyone but American Express. :siren:

My no-annual-fee Sears gold Mastercard (by Citi) has this amazing feature that doubles any 1 year or less warranty. So this exact TV that I just bought came with a FREE 2 YEAR WARRANTY. What's better about this warranty than those expensive Best Buy warranties? If it breaks one day after the factory warranty, Mastercard won't make you repair it, they'll just give you money to get a new one so you can go get a newer model. Read the terms for your card, but it should be similar.

American Express has an annual fee (EDIT: some may not, I'm not an Amex person), so they're perfectly willing to tell you about this feature because you're paying them $100/year already. Other cards I've found that do this are Visa Signature, Citi gold Mastercards and all AmEx cards. I'm sure there are others, just do your research. Visa Platinum does not and I'm never using that card again. The easiest place to pick one up is Sears and they'll give you $15 off your first purchase with their free card (it's a reg mastercard so it works everywhere not just Sears). Just check your card's policy/benefits before you shop.

So, my new Tivo HD and my new plasma both come with a 2 year warranty as long as I pay everything off through my card (no balance transfers). This works for TVs, appliances, cell phones, electronics but not cars or boats and stuff like that.

So tell that smarmy Best Buy jackass you'll take an extra year warranty for free.


1080P does matter at 42" but it depends how close you sit. If you're about 5' away you should go 1080P, if you're 7' or more away 720P should be fine. For $100 difference (on Amazon) between the 720P TH42PX77U and the 1080P TH42PZ77, I went 1080P.

900ftjesus fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Feb 28, 2008

Handiklap
Aug 14, 2004

Mmmm no.

900ftjesus posted:

1080P does matter at 42" but it depends how close you sit. If you're about 5' away you should go 1080P, if you're 7' or more away 720P should be fine. For $100 difference (on Amazon) between the 720P TH42PX77U and the 1080P TH42PZ77, I went 1080P.

My wife and I were looking to buy our first hdtv - one that will eventually get upgraded and moved to our bedroom - and I can say I'm really glad we went with a 42" 1080 (Vizio GV42LFHDTV10A). We had considered a Vizio 50" 720 plasma, but decided we didn't really need something that big in our already smallish tv room. Picked it up yesterday for just over $1000 and were up till 1am watching Planet Earth. We sit about 6' from the set, and so far we're really happy with it. Great picture, even backlighting, no motion blur, and SD content looks really sweet as well.

.Nathan.
Jun 29, 2004

by Fistgrrl

uXs posted:

I still don't get the resolution thing. It says that it has a 720p resolution, but the physical resolution is 1024x768. 720p should be 1280x720, just like a full 1080 should be, and loving is, 1920x1080. This is pretty much the only reason that I'm looking to buy a full 1080p TV, even though it's only going to be a 42'' one.

Edit: btw, 1024 isn't just not 1280, it's lower than 1280. So the picture information has to be stretched in one direction, and compressed in the other. This would look like absolute poo poo on a PC LCD, so I can't imagine it looks good on a TV.

Erm, i've been watching a 42" 720p plasma for 2 years and it looks great. I bought it after owning a similar-sized 1366x768 LCD and the decrease in resolution wasn't apparent at all. The plasma picture was far better. The image is scaled fine, you lose resolution, but it's not noticeable. Looking at a 1024x768 plasma next to a 720p LCD at a normal 8' viewing distance will let you see that there is no difference other than the plasma looking far better. If it upsets you so much then you'll be happy to know that there are plenty of 1080p plasmas to choose from. Any high-end set will be 1080p anyway these days, so it's not such a big deal. Most manufacturers will be killing 720p sets within the year, so finally no more controversy.

.Nathan. fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Feb 26, 2008

LordOfThePants
Sep 25, 2002

900ftjesus posted:

American Express has an annual fee, so they're perfectly willing to tell you about this feature because you're paying them $100/year already. Other cards I've found that do this are Visa Signature, Citi gold Mastercards and all AmEx cards. I'm sure there are others, just do your research. Visa Platinum does not and I'm never using that card again. The easiest place to pick one up is Sears and they'll give you $15 off your first purchase with their free card (it's a reg mastercard so it works everywhere not just Sears). Just check your card's policy/benefits before you shop.

Not all Amex cards have an annual fee. The Blue Cash card is fee-free and you even get cash back on purchases.

Donkey Kunt
Mar 18, 2006

I'm a cat.
Does anyone know whether Dish Network's HD set-top box has HDMI out? Does it just have component out? If anyone can provide all the outputs it has, that'd be great. Thanks in advance.

Entreri
Nov 8, 2005

I'm in the market for a plasma display, but I'm interested in whether or not I can commute with it to my friend's place frequently and safely. Are these things able to be transported easily without a high risk of damaging them? I've only talked to a few sales reps at Best Buy about it and they've given mixed responses, so I figured I'd be better off asking the experts here. Is it dangerous? Do I absolutely need to keep it upright? Are they generally pretty delicate? Am I better off with LCD in this regard?

Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.

Strict 9
Jun 20, 2001

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Came very close to a heart attack tonight ... I recently moved and tonight noticed what I first thought was a 1" black scratch on the screen. I spent about an hour working on it and now believe there is something INSIDE the screen, like a piece of hair. I can see a very brief outline if I shine a bright light at the screen. I'm 85% sure this is not a superficial scratch as I have a few other scuffs that are obviously on the outside.

So how do I go about trying to fix this? It's frustrating because it seems like if I could just get some air blowing back there I could get it off. Can I remove the screen? Do I need to contact a professional?

EDIT: Whups, forgot to mention this is for a Samsung DLP

Strict 9 fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Feb 27, 2008

Christobevii3
Jul 3, 2006
I wouldn't move a plasma a lot. If any significant pressure is put on the panel (carrying it face down, laying it flat in the car, tipping in the car) the glass will break and your tv is fubar.

.Nathan.
Jun 29, 2004

by Fistgrrl

Entreri posted:

I'm in the market for a plasma display, but I'm interested in whether or not I can commute with it to my friend's place frequently and safely. Are these things able to be transported easily without a high risk of damaging them? I've only talked to a few sales reps at Best Buy about it and they've given mixed responses, so I figured I'd be better off asking the experts here. Is it dangerous? Do I absolutely need to keep it upright? Are they generally pretty delicate? Am I better off with LCD in this regard?

Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.

Should be fine. They are a giant pane of glass, but they're still pretty tough. Why do you see yourself needing to frequently cart a 100 pound TV around anyway? Seems like a pain in the rear end to be unplugging everything and moving it that often. Something is bound to go wrong eventually, LCD or plasma.

topenga
Jul 1, 2003

Donkey Kunt posted:

Does anyone know whether Dish Network's HD set-top box has HDMI out? Does it just have component out? If anyone can provide all the outputs it has, that'd be great. Thanks in advance.

HD Models: 211,222,612,622,722
1 hdmi
1 composite
1 component
1 s-video
1 optical digital audio

Models that have a tv2 (dual tuner) also have another set of rca jacks for tv2.

Scott Forstall
Aug 16, 2003
Any opinions on Best Buy's Insignia line of HDTVs? I'm looking at the 42" 720p plasma for $700. I've been on SD for so long that the tv looks amazing, certainly not the same as the $1000 Panasonic I was looking at, but poo poo, it's still a 42" 720p HDTV.

I'd use it mostly with my PS3.

Entreri
Nov 8, 2005

.Nathan. posted:

Should be fine. They are a giant pane of glass, but they're still pretty tough. Why do you see yourself needing to frequently cart a 100 pound TV around anyway? Seems like a pain in the rear end to be unplugging everything and moving it that often. Something is bound to go wrong eventually, LCD or plasma.

Well, I'm the only one in my circle of friends who seems to want to invest in a HD tv, so I'd like to bring it to game parties, watch movies, etc. on the weekends.

The guy a BB said that laying a plasma down flat would gently caress up the display, but I'm not sure why it would. Don't people hang these things from their ceilings and whatnot? I'd be wrapping it in bubble wrap, styrofoam, and some blankets, so it should be ok for the ride...?

Entreri fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Feb 27, 2008

revengeanceful
Sep 26, 2006

Glory, glory Man United!
The reason laying it down flat would damage it while hanging from a ceiling doesn't is that there would be pressure on the screen while laying flat on the seat of your car. Personally, if I was the only one in my circle of friends with an HDTV, I'd just make them come to my place to watch it. Why should you have to lug the thing around, possibly damaging it, after spending so much money on it?

revengeanceful fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Feb 27, 2008

.Nathan.
Jun 29, 2004

by Fistgrrl

Entreri posted:

Well, I'm the only one in my circle of friends who seems to want to invest in a HD tv, so I'd like to bring it to game parties, watch movies, etc. on the weekends.

The guy a BB said that laying a plasma down flat would gently caress up the display, but I'm not sure why it would. Don't people hang these things from their ceilings and whatnot? I'd be wrapping it in bubble wrap, styrofoam, and some blankets, so it should be ok for the ride...?

A lot of people have the misconception that laying a plasma down will mix up the gases or something. That is absurd. It's only cautioned due to the forces that will be applied to the glass in a horizontal state - this is why you see glass repair vans carrying glass vertically. Personally i'd feel far more comfortable travelling with a plasma rather than an LCD just because glass is a lot more durable when hit straight on or bumped. I posted a video a month or so ago showing a Panasonic demo at CES where they swung a steel ball into both a plasma and an LCD. The plasma remained unscathed while the LCD was ruined. So assuming proper protection and such, i think you'll be fine. I also think you'll find travelling with an awkward and heavy TV frequently to be a nerve wracking experience no matter what. Use it as an excuse to get hot ladies over to your place instead. :quagmire:

mack
Mar 6, 2005
Just make your friends come over to your place. Seriously, why in the world would you want to lug an HDTV around just to make them happy? :confused:

1997
Jan 20, 2008

calmer than you are
Nevermind.

1997 fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Feb 28, 2008

Final Cause
Dec 10, 2005

Pretentious username
After reading the first 5 pages of information, which was all very informative but a lot to take in for a newbie, I wondered instead if those in the know would be able to advise me on a choice I was thinking about.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131916

This is a budget LCD TV that I'm thinking of getting, mainly for x box 360 and playstation 2 use but for TV also. The specifications all seem good for what I want it for. I'm not a serious gamer in any sense and some of the reviewers used it for their 360 and gave it good reviews.

Although the description has it at 1080i I think it may be only 720p due to the resolution (and it also says progressive not interlaced in the description) There are a lot of connections and it can also be used as a monitor and has a HDMI connection which is necessary really.

It's not too big or too small for the space I want it in according to the viewing distance calculator on page 1. I would really like to know what you guys think. Thanks.

Edit: I've also e-mailed e-buyer to ask them if this TV is natively 1080i will it up-convert a 720p signal to 1080i or down-convert it to 480 and I'm waiting for a responce.

big mean giraffe
Dec 13, 2003

Thank goodness I was just lightly deep fried
Lipstick Apathy
LCDs cannot be natively i anything, they're all progressive. That is a 720p LCD that will accept 1080i signals and downconvert to 720p. You'll want to use 720p whenever you can from your 360 or other sources.

Final Cause
Dec 10, 2005

Pretentious username
Ok thanks, that's good to know. So it's 720p all the way, from what I've been told 720p is fine at 32" and 360 gaming should be more than ok.



I just got this responce:

"Thank you for contacting us.

The image is usually upscaled to 1080i from 720p. You do not loose quality
on this convert process."


So this seems like bullshit, as LCD's can't be 1080i, there's no mistake about the product because I used the product code and exact discription. Specifically, "LCD". And he or she cannot spell "lose", this does not inspire confidence.

Final Cause fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Feb 28, 2008

Vulpes
Nov 13, 2002

Well, shit.

Final Cause posted:

So this seems like bullshit, as LCD's can't be 1080i, there's no mistake about the product because I used the product code and exact discription. Specifically, "LCD". And he or she cannot spell "lose", this does not inspire confidence.

By simply reading this thread you are probably now about 200% more educated than the average hdtv salesperson.

I'm looking at buying a Samsung LA40S81BX. Anyone able to recommend or un-recommend this model? Note that I live in New Zealand, so the kind of sets you guys are used to buying aren't necessarily available here.

I'll be using it for the full range of activities, DVDs, 360, PC, TV, XBMC, etc.

DeeBye
Aug 24, 2003

For he goes birling down a-down the white water
My new 42" Panasonic plasma just arrived today, but the delivery guy warned me that it has been in his truck for about 8 hours in -10°C temperature and that I should let it warm up before plugging it in. How long should I wait? A few hours? A day?

It's sitting there taunting me :smith:

Christobevii3
Jul 3, 2006
The operating temp on panasonic plasmas is listed as 32°F - 104°F. So i'd just let it sit for like an hour and you should be good.

.Nathan.
Jun 29, 2004

by Fistgrrl

DeeBye posted:

My new 42" Panasonic plasma just arrived today, but the delivery guy warned me that it has been in his truck for about 8 hours in -10°C temperature and that I should let it warm up before plugging it in. How long should I wait? A few hours? A day?

It's sitting there taunting me :smith:

Couple hours. Sucks, but condensation on internal components would be worse.

cdotter
Nov 3, 2007
vanilla's the killer
I'm looking for an HDTV to put in my room for XBox 360/PS3/HDTV. Something under $500, 720P, and 26". Looks like the Vizio VW26L fits the bill. Anyone have experience with it?

Christobevii3
Jul 3, 2006
cdotter you could probably get a 32" sharp that does all that at bestbuy. The ones here are marked down to $549 managers special. Call upto your store and see. Try to get a name brand over vizio, westinghouse, etc.

Tivac
Feb 18, 2003

No matter how things may seem to change, never forget who you are
Tax Return means new HDTV time. I'm looking to get the 46" Sharp Aquos (LC-46D64U), or the 42" if I have to settle. Unfortunately, the only stores in my area that I can find that actually sell it are Best Buy and Circuit City, both of which want about $500 more than most online stores.

So I have two questions.

1) Is there a really awesome store for buying a TV from in the San Francisco Bay Area? Frys doesn't carry this tv, according to their website. Also I'm in Berkeley, if it helps. I'm willing to pay a premium to buy it locally, mostly because I hate waiting and for ease of returns. That being said...

2) Who is good to go with online? If I can't get it locally internet buying isn't the end of the world. Amazon and Crutchfield's prices aren't great. I've been looking at Pricegrabber and while a bunch of places have it for cheap with great reviews, I'm still nervous. Anyone have a favorite online store for buying giant HDTVs that can easily be broken while shipping?

DeeBye
Aug 24, 2003

For he goes birling down a-down the white water

Christobevii3 posted:

The operating temp on panasonic plasmas is listed as 32°F - 104°F. So i'd just let it sit for like an hour and you should be good.

.Nathan. posted:

Couple hours. Sucks, but condensation on internal components would be worse.

I let it sit for about 5 hours before plugging it in. Everything seems to be in order. Thanks :)

Goddamn this TV is sexy :woop:

Listerine
Jan 5, 2005

Exquisite Corpse

Tivac posted:

2) Who is good to go with online? If I can't get it locally internet buying isn't the end of the world. Amazon and Crutchfield's prices aren't great.

I had no problems with Amazon, as far as the delivery service goes, and I thought the price for the set I bought was pretty good.

fahrvergnugen
Nov 27, 2003

Intergalactic proton-powered electrical tentacled REFRIGERATOR OF DOOM.

Tivac posted:

1) Is there a really awesome store for buying a TV from in the San Francisco Bay Area? Frys doesn't carry this tv, according to their website. Also I'm in Berkeley, if it helps. I'm willing to pay a premium to buy it locally, mostly because I hate waiting and for ease of returns. That being said...

1) Video Only will take really, really great care of you. I bought there, many friends have bought there, and we've all been really happy with the whole process. Their showrooms are 70's/80's relics but the products, prices, and the warranty contractors are great.

Mugmoor
Dec 12, 2006

I had a ruff day at work.
A buddy of mine is thinking of taking his first steps into the HD Gaming world. I've been using a monitor for my 360 and so I don't know much about televisions, other than resolutions and all that. I know some TVs are simply built like poo poo and was wondering if the following television is good for what it's being sold for. It's on sale right now and my buddy is very seriously running out and getting it.

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10087488&catid=23521&logon=&langid=EN

note: this is a Canadian store, so all prices are in Canadian dollars.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 


What is the maximum recommended distance that you can run DVI?

I want to run a DVI cable from my iMac to my TV. The two are physically very close, but unless I want a giant gently caress-all cable hanging out in mid-air, I'm going to have to route it behind some baseboards.


I can't comment on LG build quality, but it has a decent to good contrast ratio (6000:1/8000:1 dynamic), a 5ms response time, 2xHDMI, a VGA and two component inputs. If he's looking to use is primarily for gaming, 720p will be absolutely fine. It also has a tuner for when he decides he wants to watch TV too. Without intense scrutiny of the competition, I'd say it's a good choice for a gaming TV.

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Mar 1, 2008

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Mugmoor
Dec 12, 2006

I had a ruff day at work.

Martytoof posted:

What is the maximum recommended distance that you can run DVI?

I want to run a DVI cable from my iMac to my TV. The two are physically very close, but unless I want a giant gently caress-all cable hanging out in mid-air, I'm going to have to route it behind some baseboards.


I can't comment on LG build quality, but it has a decent to good contrast ratio (6000:1/8000:1 dynamic), a 5ms response time, 2xHDMI, a VGA and two component inputs. If he's looking to use is primarily for gaming, 720p will be absolutely fine. It also has a tuner for when he decides he wants to watch TV too. Without intense scrutiny of the competition, I'd say it's a good choice for a gaming TV.

Yeah, he's not looking to get the damned best thing on Earth, just something that's good for the price and will make his games look pretty. Looks like this'll do it, hopefully it's not sold out when we get to one!

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