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Aug 31, 2006


How big of an air compressor do I need to run a basic impact wrench and air ratchet and how much do I have to spend?

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frozenphil
Mar 13, 2003

YOU CANNOT MAKE A MISTAKE SO BIG THAT 80 GRIT CAN'T FIX IT!


Hypnolobster posted:

Anyone want to recommend me a wideband air/fuel ratio monitor?

Stick with the standard, the LM-1. If you need a permanently mounted one instead of handheld, the LC-1 is it.

City17
Dec 3, 2006



miklm posted:

I've been shopping for an impact for months now, and finally bought a Farmhand brand from Tractor Supply.


Tractor Supply is quickly becoming one of my favorite stores, decent selection, and small enough they arent crowded as crap. Best of all the employees at mine actually seem to know the store like the back of their hand and are more than willing to help you find stuff, or cut rope and chain.

AnomalousBoners
Dec 22, 2007

by Ozma


chem42 posted:

How big of an air compressor do I need to run a basic impact wrench and air ratchet and how much do I have to spend?

It depends if you want one new or used. To run those two things you don't need a very big tank unless you're going to be working quickly. Things like air sprayers or die grinders are what eat up a ton of air. If you don't need a portable one, and its for home use I'd just get a harbor freight stand up compressor and put it in a corner. My second hand (from my next door neighbor) craftsman has sprung a leak somewhere. I will have to fix that but otherwise has run without any big problems. I paid around $100 for it. Its a 20Gallon and I use a die grinder with ti but it will use up air very quickly to the point that after 5 minutes or so of grinding I need to let the tank fill up. If I had it to do over again I would wait for one of HF's big sales and put a stand up 30+ gallon unit on one of their $10 mover's dollys and put it in the corner. Then just buy a very long air hose.

One tool that does suck, is the lovely impact gun I bought in the air tool kit at pep boys. (And probably most in air tool kits) That thing sucks rear end. I am thinking about buying the step up model from HF and trying that out. At least at HF if I don't like it I can take it back.

BTW: Quick tool tip, if you buy an air ratchet, at some point it will just open and vent air and not turn. Spray WD40 through it. Like magic it will work every time, good as new. Ive used the same $10 (from that same lovely pep boys kit) for probably 3 years now. Its seized up like this due to poo poo in it probably 3 or 4 times especially if I let it sit for a while. Every time that fixes it perfect.

AnomalousBoners fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Mar 5, 2008

fishmech_1.1_RC
Jul 22, 2003



RealKyleH posted:

BTW: Quick tool tip, if you buy an air ratchet, at some point it will just open and vent air and not turn. Spray WD40 through it. Like magic it will work every time, good as new. Ive used the same $10 (from that same lovely pep boys kit) for probably 3 years now. Its seized up like this due to poo poo in it probably 3 or 4 times especially if I let it sit for a while. Every time that fixes it perfect.

Well you're actually supposed to lube it with air tool oil before every use, but I guess if you're going 3 years strong then it might not be a huge problem. Unless of course it's applying much less torque than when new, which it might be.

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

Gimme Gimme Swedish Fish...



Fallen Rib

Hypnolobster posted:

Anyone want to recommend me a wideband air/fuel ratio monitor?

LC-1 from innovate, and whatever gauge you want, or an o-meter.
http://www.14point7.com/JAW/JAW.htm
DIY WB... very good from what I hear.

AnomalousBoners
Dec 22, 2007

by Ozma


Contraband posted:

Well you're actually supposed to lube it with air tool oil before every use, but I guess if you're going 3 years strong then it might not be a huge problem. Unless of course it's applying much less torque than when new, which it might be.

I do. If not air tool oil than motor oil or trans fluid. It sometimes goes months between uses and I am guessing the cheap internals probably corrode. Not to mention its been in the dirt occasionally.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any.


Portability is key, as it'll float between vehicles. After posting that I started wandering around and I'm considering the Innovate LM-1 basic kit. It's on ebay for 299 shipped.

EDIT:
The next morning, I realize that there was another page after what I'd previously read! Thanks guys.

Hypnolobster fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Mar 5, 2008

Ponies ate my Bagel
Nov 25, 2006

by T. Finninho


happyscrappyheropup posted:

I have one of those Craftsman aluminum jacks and it does suck.

I prefer my Costco Arcan 3.5 ton monster jack for most of my garage lifting duties. Nice, high lift and it's got a low enough height to fit under my lowered C5 and 1st-gen Camaro. It is heavy, but I'm a big guy and don't give a poo poo

The best thing is the price, it was ~$69 when I bought it a couple years ago.

Amen to that! However it's totally overkill that I have my Mini....

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004



Hit an Apex posted:


Intercomp 360060 0-60 Tire Gauge from Summit - $60

The last tire gauge you will ever buy.

This was the last tire gauge/inflater I bought. The 0.5 psi digital readout comes in handy if you deal with cars with TPMS.

leica posted:

Thank god I never have to go to a shop for tire rotation ever again.
How do you balance them?

MomJeans420
Mar 19, 2007

Most of the gear, most of the time


Mad Dragon posted:

How do you balance them?
*edit*

MomJeans420 fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Oct 4, 2010

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

Gimme Gimme Swedish Fish...



Fallen Rib

Hypnolobster posted:

Portability is key, as it'll float between vehicles. After posting that I started wandering around and I'm considering the Innovate LM-1 basic kit. It's on ebay for 299 shipped.

The LM-1 is a good kit, but the same functionality can be recreated for less. The LC1 is $130, and a gauge is pretty cheap. Whichever way you go, Innovate is a great company, and makes good products.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

ああ!彼からのメールだ!

College Slice

leica posted:




Best $35 I ever spent. Combined with a Snap-On torque stick, dealing with wheels is a breeze. Thank god I never have to go to a shop for tire rotation ever again.

HF is like heaven for the DIYer.

Do you have a link to the Snap-On torque stick? I bought that exact impact gun a couple of weeks ago to get out seats in my Miata.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Phone posted:

Do you have a link to the Snap-On torque stick? I bought that exact impact gun a couple of weeks ago to get out seats in my Miata.

Seconded, a torque stick would let me use my shiny new Harbor Freight impact gun a lot more often.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006



Mad Dragon posted:

How do you balance them?

HF tire balancer http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ct...temnumber=47211



Phone posted:

Do you have a link to the Snap-On torque stick? I bought that exact impact gun a couple of weeks ago to get out seats in my Miata.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...ore&dir=catalog

tonedef131
Sep 3, 2003



Maxwedge posted:



I can keep mine in my car for emergencies
I really don't recommend keeping that in passenger compartment or trunk of a car. If that top or regulator ever gives out or breaks off it will basically turn into a rocket and immedietly fog every window in the car. So even if it doesn't shoot around/through the car and hit you, you won't be able to see where you are going to stop. On top of all of that if you can't get out of the car you could suffocate.

Not likely to happen, but why take the chance by having that thing rolling around in your trunk?

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any.



Cool, I just bout an 80lb and a 100lb.

Bastards don't make a 90

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006



Hypnolobster posted:

Cool, I just bout an 80lb and a 100lb.

Bastards don't make a 90

Harbor Freight sells a set of 6 for $30, but not separately. 55 to 100#'s and also 3/8ths drive unfortunately. Not sure if there's a 90 in there.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ct...temnumber=96399

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002

Slur, your fighting style is extremely problematic!

Edit: Can anyone explain how those things work? ^^^

I keep a 7 gallon aluminum tank with the same hose setup for random tire inflations. Easy to refill and has enough air for 4 tires. Bought it all from HF many years ago and it wasn't more than $50.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





leica posted:

Harbor Freight sells a set of 6 for $30, but not separately. 55 to 100#'s and also 3/8ths drive unfortunately. Not sure if there's a 90 in there.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ct...temnumber=96399

1/2" drive version

Harbor Freight is good enough for me

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006



IOwnCalculus posted:

1/2" drive version

Harbor Freight is good enough for me

60 bucks though. That set was at the store here and I almost bought it, but thought better of it since I knew I could get a 80# Snap-on separately.

All you really need is one anyway, unless you have a bunch of different cars and trucks (like yourself).

Maxwedge
May 7, 2007


tonedef131 posted:

I really don't recommend keeping that in passenger compartment or trunk of a car. If that top or regulator ever gives out or breaks off it will basically turn into a rocket and immedietly fog every window in the car. So even if it doesn't shoot around/through the car and hit you, you won't be able to see where you are going to stop. On top of all of that if you can't get out of the car you could suffocate.

Not likely to happen, but why take the chance by having that thing rolling around in your trunk?


I keep it on the floor of the back seat, so it doesn't roll around at all. I'm not really worried to much about it. Mabey in a side-impact car accident it might be enough to break the regulator. There is also a safety 'button' on the valve that will pop if it gets to hot/too much pressure. But I've read that you can bury this in the sand in the dessert and you wouldn't have problems (unless the tank was overfilled). And in a fire it would help if it burst.

Powertank posted:

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Nitrox posted:

Edit: Can anyone explain how those things work? ^^^

I keep a 7 gallon aluminum tank with the same hose setup for random tire inflations. Easy to refill and has enough air for 4 tires. Bought it all from HF many years ago and it wasn't more than $50.

I don't know if your talking about air or Co2 but this is different than a normal air tank. The Co2 is under high pressure (1200-1500psi) The tank is tested to 3000 psi iirc. So the Co2 is in liquid form and has a lot more energy than compressed air. So a 10lb tank of Co2 can air up about 20-25 normal car tires.

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002

Slur, your fighting style is extremely problematic!

Maxwedge posted:

I don't know if your talking about air or Co2 but this is different than a normal air tank. The Co2 is under high pressure (1200-1500psi) The tank is tested to 3000 psi iirc. So the Co2 is in liquid form and has a lot more energy than compressed air. So a 10lb tank of Co2 can air up about 20-25 normal car tires.
I understand that you have a co2, I'm just stating what I have an air tank with hose and regulator, that serves the same function, only cheaper. It holds enough air to play with pressure at the track and cost nothing to refill.

sharkytm posted:

The LM-1 is a good kit, but the same functionality can be recreated for less. The LC1 is $130, and a gauge is pretty cheap. Whichever way you go, Innovate is a great company, and makes good products.
Where can I get it for $130? The Innovative website says $199.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





leica posted:

60 bucks though. That set was at the store here and I almost bought it, but thought better of it since I knew I could get a 80# Snap-on separately.

All you really need is one anyway, unless you have a bunch of different cars and trucks (like yourself).

Yup, the truck, Miata, and Volvo, plus whatever the hell else I happen to be working on. These would also be great for jobs that require lugnut-like torque (like the shocks on said truck).

oxbrain
Aug 18, 2005

Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip and come on up to the mothership.


Air tools promote limp wrists.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any.


What the hell was that?

hippynerd
Nov 5, 2004

by Ozma


leica posted:



Best $35 I ever spent. Combined with a Snap-On torque stick, dealing with wheels is a breeze. Thank god I never have to go to a shop for tire rotation ever again.

HF is like heaven for the DIYer.

I got one of these last summer, and after spending 3 months working on my car, I never used it once. It was just too big for most stuff, Wheels would be a real good use, but whatelse have you used it for?

I ended up trading mine in(about the same cost), and getting the 1/4" cordless one, and a flexi-extension thing (to get it in odd places), and 3/8" adapter I've only used it a few times, but its worked great.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ct...temnumber=94371
I looked, but I couldn't find the other items on their website.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006



hippynerd posted:

I got one of these last summer, and after spending 3 months working on my car, I never used it once. It was just too big for most stuff, Wheels would be a real good use, but whatelse have you used it for?

It works wonders on seat bolts. Also stubborn suspension bits, basically anywhere it will fit where you need the muscle.

Or you could just call oxbrain for his manly wrists. :bigtran:

oxbrain
Aug 18, 2005

Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip and come on up to the mothership.


Hypnolobster posted:

What the hell was that?

It is a lead impact hammer. It's due for a recast.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any.


Why lead, and not steel?

It's so confusing.

Sterndotstern
Nov 16, 2002

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Hypnolobster posted:

Why lead, and not steel?

Because lead is softer than steel, so you can transmit a large force to the object without denting it.

Last time I've seen someone use one of those was these oldschool "quick change" wheels on a Shelby Cobra.

Sterndotstern fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Mar 5, 2008

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006



Hypnolobster posted:

Why lead, and not steel?

It's so confusing.

quote:

Because lead is softer than steel, so you can transmit a large force to the object without denting it.

I use a HF 5# plastic sledge filled with buckshot, about the same results I would imagine. It might even be less damaging than a lead hammer.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





leica posted:

I use a HF 5# plastic sledge filled with buckshot, about the same results I would imagine. It might even be less damaging than a lead hammer.

It probably is, since while the lead probably won't dent I bet it does scuff and scratch like a bastard. I really need to pick up a plastic dead-blow from Harbor Freight one of these days.

oxbrain
Aug 18, 2005

Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip and come on up to the mothership.


Hypnolobster posted:

Why lead, and not steel?

It's so confusing.

It's like the difference between punching and pushing. A steel hammer will spend more energy bouncing off the tool, and the sharper impact will be more likely to break the tool. The lead deforms and transfers more force, while being gentler on the other tool.

Also, steel can chip on impact, and these dust sized shards invariably wind up in your eyeball. If you ever have to hit a steel tool with a steel hammer, wrap one in a rag.


edit:
Plastic deadblows work, but I can't stand how they feel in the hand. Also, they don't work as well striking upwards.

oxbrain fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Mar 5, 2008

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any.


I was thinking it was the same as a deadblow hammer, but I figured it might have some special purpose.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006



oxbrain posted:

Also, they don't work as well striking upwards.

Ahhh, good point. I never tried the deadblow in an upwards fashion.

miklm
Dec 7, 2003

What a cunning fellow.

IOwnCalculus posted:

1/2" drive version

Harbor Freight is good enough for me

Thanks. There goes yet another small portion of my paycheck. My luck the local HF won't have any in stock; they're terrible about having inventory here.

Now that I'm buying a proper tool box, I have to populate it with something...


$119 for the 3-piece combo at the local Sears.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





miklm posted:

Thanks. There goes yet another small portion of my paycheck. My luck the local HF won't have any in stock; they're terrible about having inventory here.

Now that I'm buying a proper tool box, I have to populate it with something...


$119 for the 3-piece combo at the local Sears.

Oooh, I have that but in red and minus a few of the drawers in the middle. Nice set

The plastic tool tray, as I discovered while in the long slow process of finally organizing my tools now that I own a house, is phenomenal for electrical tools and crap. I have an old truck that often requires some reworking in the wiring harness so I've got it loaded up with a ratcheting crimper, automatic stripper, a test light, and a huge assortment of wire and crimps. The only wiring-related tools I don't have in it at the moment are my 120V detector (which I'm pretty sure is broken anyway thanks to it lying to me about an outlet I was working on) and a multimeter (not enough room).

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

Gimme Gimme Swedish Fish...



Fallen Rib

Nitrox posted:

I understand that you have a co2, I'm just stating what I have an air tank with hose and regulator, that serves the same function, only cheaper. It holds enough air to play with pressure at the track and cost nothing to refill.

Where can I get it for $130? The Innovative website says $199.

http://www.xenocron.com/catalog/wid...ll-c-25_44.html
$199, and you can get it for a little less on honda-tech.
The prices have moved a little from when I bought mine a year ago, i guess. I got mine for $149 with the sensor.

The CO2 tank is about as safe as anything, so long as you unhook the hose and regulator. I'd keep it in the trunk, and lashed down. I've carried my 80CF Argon tank in my car... never had a bit of trouble.

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EvilDonald
Aug 30, 2002

I'm the urban spaceman, baby.

One of these, in 1/2" and 9/16", is the single greatest wrench ever. I have a Craftsman one, but they don't show it on their site. They probably discontinued it, as it's not gimmicky.

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