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Tenterhooks
Jul 27, 2003

Bang Bang

20matar posted:

I've picked up skateboarding recently, in september. So far it's been a blast, but I need some media to inspire me and teach me more about the sport as a whole so I can make the most of my time away from the board. What can you guys recommend? Videos, books, and so on. I have no idea of where to start.

Epicly Later'd is an ongoing series of multi-part episodes that covers tons of important characters - old guys, new guys, teams, history etc. All worth watching (it gets a little nerdy in places but that's no bad thing). Good starters might be: Ed Templeton - veteran pro skateboarder / artist / owner of Toy Machine. Dylan Rieder - current hottest thing in skateboarding / model / trendsetter / cigarette smoker. Jake Phelps - Thrasher Magazine's longtime editor / rear end in a top hat / skate encyclopedia. Fully Flared - a behind-the-scenes look at what went into making the explosive-filled intro to one of the most hyped skate videos of all time (there's also an hour-long documentary about Fully Flared called The Final Flare).

ON Video was a video magazine that ran for a few years in the early 00s. It would do features about specific spots or aspects of skateboarding. Loads of it is up on YouTube. A quick search gives me: Why Style Matters, Love Park, Hubba Hideout, Carlsbad etc. etc.

SLAP Magazine used to produce a reality competition called One in a Million. It started as a fairly simple affair and grew until it fell apart in 2012 when it got too corny. 2010's season, however, is thoroughly entertaining. That link lets you watch it in one go but the original episodes are still on YouTube.

There's tons more I could link to but those are all very watchable little windows into the world.

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Zigmidge
May 12, 2002

Exsqueeze me, why the sour face? I'm here to lemon aid you. Let's juice it.
I always love suggesting Emerica's Stay Gold B-Sides to anyone that gets jazzed about seeing the reality of skating. Those pump me up to actually go and skate. Andrew Reynold's takes get to me every time, in a good way.
http://vimeo.com/23294788

To complement the material the other two guys have mentioned (watch everything! all of those are gold) go through this thread backwards. We talk about and post good videos as they hit the world.

Zigmidge fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Nov 20, 2014

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

20matar posted:

I've picked up skateboarding recently, in september. So far it's been a blast, but I need some media to inspire me and teach me more about the sport as a whole so I can make the most of my time away from the board. What can you guys recommend? Videos, books, and so on. I have no idea of where to start.

All the suggestions so far are great. I'm not sure what would inspire you but off the top I would suggest watching some Ben Raybourn vids, he's bringing back a lot of "forgotten" tricks and I think he's capturing people's imaginations just because today's tech/flip pro is soooooo far out ahead of them. Also track down Rodney Mullen's TED talk. Thrashers road trip competition "King of the Road" is inspiring in it's own way too, and my favorite competition format.

For learning about the sport as a whole:

History-wise, try and find "Bones Brigade: An autobiography", if for no other reason than to listen to Rodney Mullen talk more. To get a sense on the modern set of top pros there's a documentary that just hit netflix called "The Motivation" which profiles Street League (for better or worse, one of the biggest things in skateboarding right now) and the top pros working right now. I'm sure every single guy in there has more personal profile stuff out there if you like any of them in particular (pro-tip, when it gets to the end of the movie and they're actually doing the final contest just find a recording of it on youtube or something and then come back and watch the end).

Then there's the bible: Thrasher Magazine. It costs like 15 bucks for a years subscription and you get a free t-shirt or some other free thing. Chances are very high that you will get a DVD along with an issue that's worth at least that much.

Speaking of which try to find a dvd they made called "Hell of a year", which was a 2013 year-end collection of the best parts people recorded for them and a lot of other fun stuff. Now that no one buys anything but giant releases for entire teams a lot of people's best work ends up in single parts put online for Thrasher and other outlets. Easily the best one-stop if you want to see most of the best poo poo that happened in 2013.

quote:

(there's also an hour-long documentary about Fully Flared called The Final Flare).

Highly reccomend this, and all the Girl/Lakai videos, which are kind of required reading if you like skateboarding nowadays. "Yeah Right!" is one of the best things ever pressed onto an optical disc.




Edit: What do you get into most when watching other people? Dudes hucking themselves down deadly drops? Unique takes on the sport? Ridiculous flip in/out to manual stuff?

Edit2: Check out David Gonzalez too. He has it all in spades and the biggest balls this side of Jaws Homoki.

Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Nov 20, 2014

pugnax
Oct 10, 2012

Specialization is for insects.
Pretty sure Welcome to Hell and Misled Youth are the ~realest~ to me, but that's probably just my preferred culture/style.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

pugnax posted:

Pretty sure Welcome to Hell and Misled Youth are the ~realest~ to me, but that's probably just my preferred culture/style.

You'd like the Creature vids

Faux-Ass Nonsense
Feb 9, 2013

by Lowtax
We're finally getting a park. With a bowl. Indoors.

~Good times, for a change
Oh the luck I've had
I'm going to break
both my arms~

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
I came here to post something that isn't what I'm about to but holy moley Tyler Surrey and Wes Kremer set it off. Sk8mafia is very good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXte9FQSWGw

Oh I remember now, Vice put out a documentary about Tas and Ben Pappas called "All This Mayhem". It's super good and worth renting. Those fellows were crazy good, well Tas still is, Ben is dead. It's a great documentary that goes over a lot of the gnarly poo poo that pros run in to when they're out of control anywhere but the board.

Ghetto Blaster
Jul 25, 2006

New board

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice

maffew buildings posted:

I came here to post something that isn't what I'm about to but holy moley Tyler Surrey and Wes Kremer set it off. Sk8mafia is very good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXte9FQSWGw


I... uh...

Wow.

Zigmidge
May 12, 2002

Exsqueeze me, why the sour face? I'm here to lemon aid you. Let's juice it.
Maybe not everyone is always up to date on the latest but AntiHero's Destination Unknown just dropped and the skating slays me.

That ride in from on top of the cradle stoked me up so much I had to pause it and go skate last night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK7LAKFYO0E

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!
Yeah, that video is so good. I'm going to have to buy a copy. The full pipe skating is just so skateboarding.

Edit: Grant Taylor getting hit by an old lady.

Ghetto Blaster
Jul 25, 2006

Anti-hero are the best team

liquorlanche
Sep 10, 2014
SKATOPIA JIHAD!



I could watch this, on repeat, for weeks.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
that there new Enjoi video is pretty darn good. A+ would watch again

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
seriously holy moly enjoi goes off. every part is high quality skateboard action and the ender is insane. also it features louie barletta, super cool dude and cool hair haver

iRoNgHosT
Mar 10, 2003

www.fusionball.com
So, my little brother, Aaron Herrington, went pro for Polar this past year, and from what it seems, has kind of exploded on the skateboarding scene. He was on the cover of Kingpin Magazine over in Europe last month, has an article/interview on him in December's issue of Transworld, and over at the Transworld site they just nominated him for the readers choice "Best Rookie of 2014".

If you want to vote for him, or anyone else, here's the link :
http://skateboarding.transworld.net/web-videos/readers-choice-best-rookie-2014/

What I really want to know, since I'm not much of a skater, especially anymore, what makes him "better than the rest"? I understand that he's extremely talented at what he does, and the stuff I've seen him do as we've grown up has always seemed crazy, but it is hard for me to describe to people what puts him in the spotlight. Now, if only I could make a living playing music... Yeah, right...

pugnax
Oct 10, 2012

Specialization is for insects.

maffew buildings posted:

that there new Enjoi video is pretty darn good. A+ would watch again

Man, I love their videos, but hate their decks.

Greenplastic
Oct 24, 2005

Miao, miao!

iRoNgHosT posted:

What I really want to know, since I'm not much of a skater, especially anymore, what makes him "better than the rest"? I understand that he's extremely talented at what he does, and the stuff I've seen him do as we've grown up has always seemed crazy, but it is hard for me to describe to people what puts him in the spotlight. Now, if only I could make a living playing music... Yeah, right...

Watching his part below, he has fast feet, great flow, good balance between tech and gnarl, and good spot and trick selection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7USgOtErbX0

iRoNgHosT
Mar 10, 2003

www.fusionball.com

Greenplastic posted:

Watching his part below, he has fast feet, great flow, good balance between tech and gnarl, and good spot and trick selection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7USgOtErbX0

Nice, that's a great explanation. I know his spot selection is quite unique, especially from what we've talked about in the past. When traveling around NYC, if he sees a spot he wants to skate in the future, he will take a picture of it and geo tag it so he can come back and skate it later on.

iRoNgHosT
Mar 10, 2003

www.fusionball.com

Greenplastic posted:

Watching his part below, he has fast feet, great flow, good balance between tech and gnarl, and good spot and trick selection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7USgOtErbX0

And apparently Static IV has been nominated for Best Full Video of 2014 as well! That's nuts!

http://skateboarding.transworld.net/photos/readers-choice-best-full-video-2014/#3858+70d3a9fe40

Zigmidge
May 12, 2002

Exsqueeze me, why the sour face? I'm here to lemon aid you. Let's juice it.
This is the best thing I've seen all day. When I grow up I want to skate as good as him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4qagwtthNI

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
I'd appreciate any more "of the year" materials being posted, I'm not getting my Thrashers in the mail and thought that Plan B vid was still in the oven.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
worst decision of the year: giving Andy Roy a gun, the new Anti Hero video

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

maffew buildings posted:

worst decision of the year: giving Andy Roy a gun, the new Anti Hero video

There's a video on youtube from Vice's "Munchies" series where he shows you how to make sweet and sour pork with prison ingredients. I would link it but I can't.

Edit: Guess I can

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sgF97c6DZk

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!
The background music really sells it.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
Andy Roy is insane. That is all.

Now I watch Plan B "It Actually Was Released". Will it be better than Enjoi "Oververt"? Probably not, but it's not fair to expect it to be

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
Plan B "True" review: This video was 43 minutes long and 28 of it was them falling down. PJ Ladd did not have a part. F- not worth the 10 year wait

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!
I thought it was pretty lame how Danny Way had been on social media talking about trying hard to get clips before the video and then doesn't let anyone know that he's not going to be in the Plan B video. Instead he's using that footage for a DC solo vid or something.

Speaking of Plan B, Gary on Skateline always cracks me up...he calls out Sheckler and Danny Way http://thrashermagazine.com/articles/videos/skateline-12022014/

I really enjoy the sentiments that Gary relates. Half of the time he is just making fun of pros/brands. Skateboarding needs that. Look at me I'm getting serious about not taking skateboarding too seriously.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
The skating in the Plan B video is heavy, but I wanted to see some vert skating and the lack of PJ Ladd is sad cat :( It's good but it's not like "Pretty Sweet" good where I completely forgot Eric Koston existed until he appeared in Guy's part

pugnax
Oct 10, 2012

Specialization is for insects.
Uh, yeah, that Creature vid recommendation really hit the spot!

Now all I want is a video with Jawbreaker music in the background...

JPrime
Jul 4, 2007

tales of derring-do, bad and good luck tales!
College Slice

Zigmidge posted:

This is the best thing I've seen all day. When I grow up I want to skate as good as him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4qagwtthNI

:allears: I'm 280lbs. This gives me hope.

donJonSwan
Dec 6, 2004
Scum Pirate
Found a (relatively) nice mini-ramp in a super cool ladies backyard. She told me and my homies we could barge it anytime.

I took a few good slams getting my sea legs back, but it feels good to have a spot to ride again. Now I've gotta work on my stamina so I'm not dead tired after 45 minutes.

20matar
Jul 9, 2013

70fugir
Thanks everyone for the tips. Great recommendations! Sadly, a Thrasher subscription is a little bit too pricey to my country, and I'm a bit worried about things such as the long shipping and possibly facing some customs issues due to the free t-shirts and DVDs.

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Edit: What do you get into most when watching other people? Dudes hucking themselves down deadly drops? Unique takes on the sport? Ridiculous flip in/out to manual stuff?

Edit2: Check out David Gonzalez too. He has it all in spades and the biggest balls this side of Jaws Homoki.

First of all, I'll admit that I loved the Tony Hawk games as a kid. I was impressed by Rodney Mullen, most of all, and vert just seemed a bit out of my reality, so it did not draw my attention. I couldn't stay on top of the skateboard for a second as a child. Personally, drops don't draw my attention much, and vert really does not appeal to me. I like street skateboarding, and I'm very impressed by the little freestyle I've seen. Right now, I'm just starting to get the hang of riding, of cruising around and maneuvering the board. I still have a lot to work on. I have tendinitis in the left ankle, so I feel a lot of nagging pain that I can do nothing but get used to. So I'm trying to work around that, and skateboarding is helping me with both strength and balance.

My end of the year goal is to ollie, but for the last week all I've been doing is to ride with no pretentions, as I managed to lose one of my wrist guards and I'm waiting for a new pair to arrive. I'm an older beginner, 24 years old, so I'm trying to avoid injuries to my hands due to work reasons. I learned to break falls when I trained BJJ, but I've tried to put my hands to the ground more than once when I just started skateboarding, so... the guards saved my day more than once before I started to wise up a little.

Now, for a couple of very basic questions about pushing. I am goofy, but my stronger leg is the right one and I'm right handed.

-How do I add strength to my pushing to make me go faster? I just can't seem to kick strong enough without losing stability.

-Regarding the switch stance: is pushing mongo a valid choice, or is it a clutch? I just can't ride "regular" without pushing mongo. Can I stick with that or is it a bad habit I should get rid of?

pugnax
Oct 10, 2012

Specialization is for insects.
I personally think mongo is a pretty bad habit, but some people seem to make it work just fine. If it's what feels right to you then go for it, but if it's just a matter of power, I'd try and push with your left. I sort of do more of an 'axe kick', where I extend my left foot forward and swing it down and back rather than actually 'pushing' forward.

The ollie is crazy hard to figure out, but once you get it you'll have it. I actually think it's easier to learn while rolling, and once you get the hang of it, you can try and increase your speed.

XIII
Feb 11, 2009




Sometimes when we touch
ilovebeersooomuch
And I have to close my eyes and cry
Friends don't let friends push mongo (I do sometimes when I'm skating switch, but I try to avoid switch anyway). Your legs will both get stronger.

Also, I also found ollies (and everything) easier while moving.

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

Guess I have to learn to push like a real person now... Stupid left leg.

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!
Try to avoid mongo pushing. It's a poor foundation to build on and makes it harder to setup for doing ollies when you are moving. Keep trying to push the regular way. It will be hard at first but over a couple of weeks of trying you will get better at it. Mogno pushing has two main problems: it makes it harder to position your feet/body for tricks and it just doesn't look good.

That being said one of my good friends pushes mongo and is a great skater. He is one of my favorite guys to skate with because he just goes for it...all while pushing mongo.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
There's at least 6 eps of this years King of the Road. I've watched three and it's as good as ever.

http://youtu.be/S2Nct7FR_7o

Ep 3 is the first time I've seen this ATL Cyclops rail, but the end of this ep on it is heart attack stuff.

Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Dec 9, 2014

20matar
Jul 9, 2013

70fugir

pugnax posted:

'axe kick'

Two words that gave me a new perspective. I tried it out yesterday, it really is a lot smarter than just stomping at the pavement. Nice tip. It helps to keep my balance and to time my pushes better, not only with "just" speed. Once I get the hang of it, I'll try to switch and see what's what.

Now for an odd question. I often ride at night, so I get a little bit confused with foot positioning in the dark. I'm thinking about doing something to my screws or the grip tape so I can have a better reference of where I am stepping. Have you guys faced that issue? I know that there are colored screws and bolts and that colorful tape is a thing, but I'd like to hear your thoughts about it, as I want an interesting solution, something I could do with stuff I have around the house.

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UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!
You could flip one or two of your bolts so you can feel the nut on the top of the deck. eh huh huh huh heh heh huh.. feel the nut.
Edit: we used to do this as youngsters, flip the two front bolts closest to the middle. It gives you a little something to catch your foot on and help with the lift when olleing.

You don't need colored grip tape, you could paint your board with some spray paint, it would be cheaper.

UFOTacoMan fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Dec 9, 2014

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