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Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E


Hypnolobster posted:

I just ordered the $30 student upgrade to 64bit, and I'm currently running Vista 32.


Do I have any reasonable/sensible way to upgrade to Win7 64bit clean install beyond formatting my main drive, installing Vista 64 and then upgrading to 7?

http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/cl...grade_media.asp

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Xenomorph
Jun 13, 2001


NFX posted:

IIRC the x32 version of 7-zip doesn't work well with x64 windows - shell integration and so on doesn't work. On the other hand, x64 Python works terrible with most packages out there in my experience, making it about as useful as a x64 browser.

This has nothing to do with 7-Zip or Windows 7.

x64 XP
x64 Server 2003
x64 Vista
x64 Server 2008
x64 Win7

32-bit Explorer extensions/shell integration from programs like WinZip, IZArc, WinRAR, 7-zip, etc - do not work. You need something 64-bit, or at least "64-bit aware" to properly add extensions to Explorer.

wintermuteCF
Dec 9, 2006

LIEK HAI2U!

redeyes posted:

There is no upgrading. You will get your old installation renamed to windows.old and a clean install.

This. But don't use this as an excuse to not back up your files (documents, movies, whatever you want to keep) just because your folders get saved to windows.old.

You'll load the DVD, it'll say that you can't do an in-place upgrade to 7, and ask you to do a clean install.

e; fb

WorkingStiff
Jul 5, 2005



I'm having a problem in Win 7 Pro x64 with my Logitech mouse forgetting all of it's custom settings coming out of sleep mode. I think the Logitech Setpoint software is running in 32bit. Any suggestions on correcting this?

Rirse
May 6, 2006

by R. Guyovich


I got a question, I'm planning on upgrading to Windows 7 soon, but I have two hard-drives on the computer that are nearly filled. Since it will be a clean install, the files will be moved to "OLD" folder. Does it move the files on the second hard-drive to that folder, or in general leaves them alone.

real_scud
Sep 5, 2002

One of these days these elbows are gonna walk all over you


JoeCitizen posted:

I'm having a problem in Win 7 Pro x64 with my Logitech mouse forgetting all of it's custom settings coming out of sleep mode. I think the Logitech Setpoint software is running in 32bit. Any suggestions on correcting this?
Try downloading the Vista x64 version, I think that's what I snagged and my mouse has been working fine since then.

ufarn
May 30, 2009


4 Day Weekend posted:

You mean ninite? I don't think any of those programs have 64 bit counterparts.
iTunes has.

gariig
Dec 31, 2004
Beaten into submission by my fiance

Pillbug

JoeCitizen posted:

I'm having a problem in Win 7 Pro x64 with my Logitech mouse forgetting all of it's custom settings coming out of sleep mode. I think the Logitech Setpoint software is running in 32bit. Any suggestions on correcting this?

Reboot that's what I end up doing. Mine will revert my middle mouse button to search instead of mouse3 click. So Firefox won't lose or open a new tab but click on the search area. I usually get tired of it and reboot.

I will try new Setpoint drivers tonight.

WorkingStiff
Jul 5, 2005



real_scud posted:

Try downloading the Vista x64 version, I think that's what I snagged and my mouse has been working fine since then.

Iam! When I look in task manager, it's running as SetPoint32.exe *32...

I'm going to try to uninstall /reinstall again and see if that fixes it.

EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

Let's go exploring!



JoeCitizen posted:

Iam! When I look in task manager, it's running as SetPoint32.exe *32...

I'm going to try to uninstall /reinstall again and see if that fixes it.

Setpoint is a 32bit application. The 64bit installs a few things that need to be 64bit but passes it back to the main 32bit app. It'll continue to be 32bit no matter how many times you reinstall.

I've had it fail on me once, was fixed by a reboot. Are you using UberOptions or anything weird?

WorkingStiff
Jul 5, 2005



Casao posted:

Setpoint is a 32bit application. The 64bit installs a few things that need to be 64bit but passes it back to the main 32bit app. It'll continue to be 32bit no matter how many times you reinstall.

I've had it fail on me once, was fixed by a reboot. Are you using UberOptions or anything weird?

No, not at all. I might fiddle with the UAC settings for it.

illicitporpoises
May 16, 2006



JoeCitizen posted:

I'm having a problem in Win 7 Pro x64 with my Logitech mouse forgetting all of it's custom settings coming out of sleep mode. I think the Logitech Setpoint software is running in 32bit. Any suggestions on correcting this?

This is a known issue with SetPoint. I emailed Logitech support and their proposed solution was to RMA the mouse.

The easiest thing to do if it happens is to kill SetPoint.exe from Task Manager and then re-launch it. Somebody on the Logitech board actually came up up with a Task that did this when the system woke up from sleep.

WorkingStiff
Jul 5, 2005



illicitporpoises posted:

This is a known issue with SetPoint. I emailed Logitech support and their proposed solution was to RMA the mouse.

The easiest thing to do if it happens is to kill SetPoint.exe from Task Manager and then re-launch it. Somebody on the Logitech board actually came up up with a Task that did this when the system woke up from sleep.

Thanks. That's what I figured. I'm off to the Logitech forums!

UserNotFound
May 7, 2006
???

Maxwell Adams posted:

Could you guys see if the drivers for your wireless card support the Virtual WiFi feature built into Windows 7?http://tameyourpc.blogspot.com/sear...0Access%20Point]

Dell E6500, No
code:
Interface name: Wireless Network Connection

    Driver                    : Intel(R) WiFi Link 5100 AGN
    Vendor                    : Intel Corporation
    Provider                  : Microsoft
    Date                      : 3/26/2009
    Version                   : 12.4.1.4
    INF file                  : C:\Windows\INF\netw5v64.inf
    Files                     : 1 total
                                C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\netw5v64.sys
    Type                      : Native Wi-Fi Driver
    Radio types supported     : 802.11a 802.11b 802.11g
    FIPS 140-2 mode supported : Yes
    Hosted network supported  : No
Acer Aspire One D260, YES!!
code:
Interface name: Wireless Network Connection

    Driver                    : Atheros AR5007EG
    Vendor                    : Atheros Communications Inc
    Provider                  : Microsoft
    Date                      : 6/9/2009
    Version                   : 2.0.0.74
    INF file                  : C:\Windows\INF\netathr.inf
    Files                     : 1 total
                                C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\vwifibus.sys
    Type                      : Native Wi-Fi Driver
    Radio types supported     : 802.11b 802.11g
    FIPS 140-2 mode supported : Yes
    Hosted network supported  : Yes

DOMDOM
Apr 28, 2007

don't put your dog in the fire

Fun Shoe

Maxwell Adams posted:

Could you guys see if the drivers for your wireless card support the Virtual WiFi feature built into Windows 7?
Linksys Rangeplus Wireless USB supports it.
code:
C:\Users\dmastri>netsh wlan show drivers

Interface name: Wireless Network Connection

    Driver                    : Linksys RangePlus Wireless USB Network Adapter
    Vendor                    : Linksys,a division of Cisco Systems,Inc.
    Provider                  : Linksys,a division of Cisco Systems,Inc.
    Date                      : 8/26/2009
    Version                   : 3.0.3.0
    INF file                  : C:\Windows\INF\oem23.inf
    Files                     : 1 total
                                C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\netr28ux.sys
    Type                      : Native Wi-Fi Driver
    Radio types supported     : 802.11b 802.11g 802.11n
    FIPS 140-2 mode supported : Yes
    Hosted network supported  : Yes

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007



Yaos posted:

Do you have a Gigabyte motherboard? Somehow the BIOS on some of the newer motherboards were causing ATI cards to crash and other graphics problems. I applied the update and now memtest does not report any errors in my RAM either.

I do have a Gigabyte motherboard. I take it the 'update' was a bios flash? I usually tend to avoid those, but I suppose I could try it...

Lenins Potato
May 8, 2008


Maxwell Adams posted:

Could you guys see if the drivers for your wireless card support the Virtual WiFi feature built into Windows 7? Just open up a command prompt and type in "netsh wlan show drivers". You'll get a blob of text that looks kinda like this:

code:
Interface name: Wireless Network Connection

    Driver                    : NETGEAR WPN311 RangeMax(TM) Wireless PCI Adapter

    Vendor                    : Atheros Communications Inc.
    Provider                  : Atheros Communications Inc.
    Date                      : 10/5/2009
    Version                   : 8.0.0.238
    INF file                  : C:\Windows\INF\oem6.inf
    Files                     : 2 total
                                C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\athrx.sys
                                C:\Windows\system32\drivers\vwifibus.sys
    Type                      : Native Wi-Fi Driver
    Radio types supported     : 802.11b 802.11g
    FIPS 140-2 mode supported : Yes
    Hosted network supported  : Yes

illicitporpoises
May 16, 2006



Maxwell Adams posted:

Could you guys see if the drivers for your wireless card support the Virtual WiFi feature built into Windows 7? Just open up a command prompt and type in "netsh wlan show drivers". You'll get a blob of text that looks kinda like this:

code:
C:\>netsh wlan show drivers

Interface name: Wireless Network Connection

    Driver                    : Broadcom 802.11n Network Adapter
    Vendor                    : Broadcom
    Provider                  : Microsoft
    Date                      : 10/1/2008
    Version                   : 4.176.75.23
    INF file                  : C:\Windows\INF\oem5.inf
    Files                     : 2 total
                                C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\BCMWL664.SYS
                                C:\Windows\system32\drivers\vwifibus.sys
    Type                      : Native Wi-Fi Driver
    Radio types supported     : 802.11n 802.11g 802.11b
    FIPS 140-2 mode supported : No
    Hosted network supported  : Yes
    Authentication and cipher supported in infrastructure mode:
                                Open            None
                                Open            WEP
                                Shared          None
                                Shared          WEP
                                WPA2-Enterprise TKIP
                                WPA2-Personal   TKIP
                                WPA2-Enterprise CCMP
                                WPA2-Personal   CCMP
                                WPA-Enterprise  TKIP
                                WPA-Personal    TKIP
                                WPA-Enterprise  CCMP
                                WPA-Personal    CCMP
    Authentication and cipher supported in ad-hoc mode:
                                WPA2-Personal   CCMP
                                Open            None
                                Open            WEP

This is a Linksys WMP300N by the way.

scarymonkey
Jul 15, 2003

by angerbeet


From a Dell Latitude D630, yes:

quote:

Interface name: Wireless Network Connection

Driver : Dell Wireless 1395 WLAN Mini-Card

HP 311 Netbook, Yes:

quote:

Interface name: Wireless Network Connection

Driver : Broadcom 43224AG 802.11a/b/g/draft-n Wi-Fi Adapte


Edit: Paste flooding is bad.

scarymonkey fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Nov 3, 2009

EVGA Longoria
Dec 25, 2005

Let's go exploring!



1000HE's a go:

code:
Interface name: Wireless Network Connection

    Driver                    : Atheros AR928X Wireless Network Adapter
    Vendor                    : Atheros Communications Inc.
    Provider                  : Atheros Communications Inc.
    Date                      : 7/8/2009
    Version                   : 8.0.0.171
    INF file                  : C:\Windows\INF\oem25.inf
    Files                     : 2 total
                                C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\athr.sys
                                C:\Windows\system32\drivers\vwifibus.sys
    Type                      : Native Wi-Fi Driver
    Radio types supported     : 802.11b 802.11g 802.11n
    FIPS 140-2 mode supported : Yes
    Hosted network supported  : Yes
    Authentication and cipher supported in infrastructure mode:
                                Open            None
                                Open            WEP-40bit
                                Shared          WEP-40bit
                                Open            WEP-104bit
                                Shared          WEP-104bit
                                Open            WEP
                                Shared          WEP
                                WPA-Enterprise  TKIP
                                WPA-Personal    TKIP
                                WPA2-Enterprise TKIP
                                WPA2-Personal   TKIP
                                Vendor defined  TKIP
                                WPA2-Enterprise Vendor defined
                                Vendor defined  Vendor defined
                                WPA-Enterprise  CCMP
                                WPA-Personal    CCMP
                                WPA2-Enterprise CCMP
                                Vendor defined  CCMP
                                WPA2-Enterprise Vendor defined
                                Vendor defined  Vendor defined
                                WPA2-Personal   CCMP
    Authentication and cipher supported in ad-hoc mode:
                                Open            None
                                Open            WEP-40bit
                                Open            WEP-104bit
                                Open            WEP
                                WPA2-Personal   CCMP

KaiserSchnitzel
Feb 23, 2003

Hey baby I think we Havel lot in common

Hypnolobster posted:

I just ordered the $30 student upgrade to 64bit, and I'm currently running Vista 32.


Do I have any reasonable/sensible way to upgrade to Win7 64bit clean install beyond formatting my main drive, installing Vista 64 and then upgrading to 7?

Because I have the same question:

I ordered the $30 student upgrade and want to be going from 32 to 64. This is on my laptop, which is a 2 year old Dell XPS1330 with 2 GB ram...is there really any downside to using the 32 bit version, which I can just upgrade, or should I just bite the bullet and wait for a 64 bit disc to come in the mail?

edit: n/m, I'll just get the 32 bit...it will do me just fine.

KaiserSchnitzel fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Nov 3, 2009

The Merkinman
Apr 22, 2007

I sell only quality merkins. What is a merkin you ask? Why, it's a wig for your genitals!

Did something happen in the past day or two? People are bitching about the lack of a Classic Start Menu in Windows 7 again

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007



I was one of those fuddy-duddies that kept Classic Start Menu and Classic Color Scheme all the way through XP. But Win7 convinced me to try the new menu, and I like it better.

Aeka 2.0
Nov 16, 2000

Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.






Dinosaur Gum

Bobulus posted:

I was one of those fuddy-duddies that kept Classic Start Menu and Classic Color Scheme all the way through XP. But Win7 convinced me to try the new menu, and I like it better.

I was so happy when they changed it.

zegermans
Oct 19, 2006




Ugh the sideways tearing is getting more annoying and now the color seems to cut between 32/16bit and like 256 or some poo poo. It goes away when I shut down sli. Are there known issues with regards to this? I haven't checked the new card I bought individually to see if I got a dud off of ebay, that's obviously the next step. Also, these are both gtx 260's, same chipset, etc, just that one is default clocked faster. Am I correct in thinking that it will just downclock to the lowest denominator and work without a hitch ideally?

Acer Pilot
Feb 17, 2007
put the 'the' in therapist





Does anyone else keep accidentally clicking unopened programs on the taskbar? Apparently I sure love to open Outlook (thinking it's already open).

BRAKE FOR MOOSE
Jun 6, 2001

It Could Save Your Life
HUNDREDS OF COLLISIONS



drcru posted:

Does anyone else keep accidentally clicking unopened programs on the taskbar? Apparently I sure love to open Outlook (thinking it's already open).

my eyes work properly

Crumbletron
Jul 21, 2006



IT'S YOUR BOY JESUS, MANE


drcru posted:

Does anyone else keep accidentally clicking unopened programs on the taskbar? Apparently I sure love to open Outlook (thinking it's already open).

I keep accidently clicking Dreamweaver because my hand is retarded and slips off the Live Messenger button.

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007



The thing I love best about the new Start Menu is how it incorporates the recent file lists into the most used programs list. Is there any way to make that work with programs not specifically programmed for Vista/7?

UserNotFound
May 7, 2006
???

So I was bothered by the limit of "balanced plan" and whatever power plan you were on before that showing up without at least 3 clicks.... and I found some good commands for you:

powercfg /setactive scheme_max
powercfg /setactive scheme_min
powercfg /setactive scheme_balanced

You can of course create shortcuts however you want, but I'm a fan of setting up .bat's that I can run immediately after hitting the windows key.

poweercfg /? is hugely long, which lead me to finding powercfg -energy, which creates an html report of what your system thinks is taking up too much power

Thought it might be of interest to some of you that want to squeeze the most out of some old portable hardware.

kapinga
Oct 12, 2005

I am not a number

Bobulus posted:

The thing I love best about the new Start Menu is how it incorporates the recent file lists into the most used programs list. Is there any way to make that work with programs not specifically programmed for Vista/7?

Any program that uses the Recently Opened API (or whatever it's called) should get that integration. Similarly, jump lists are by default populated with that same list if it is available.

SpelledBackwards
Jan 7, 2001

I found this image on the Internet, perhaps you've heard of it? It's been around for a while I hear.



Is there anything like the XP Scanner and Camera Wizard in Vista or 7?

I can't loving stand the fact that if you plug in a digital camera in Vista/7, it decides you need to import EVERY picture on the camera in one folder instead of being reasonable and letting you, you know, CHOOSE which pictures you'd like to download for a particular import.

Edit: For now I'm browsing to the camera and copying them off manually.

SpelledBackwards fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Nov 3, 2009

plester1
Jul 9, 2004







MY FANTASYS.zip posted:

I got a question, I'm planning on upgrading to Windows 7 soon, but I have two hard-drives on the computer that are nearly filled. Since it will be a clean install, the files will be moved to "OLD" folder. Does it move the files on the second hard-drive to that folder, or in general leaves them alone.

It will leave them alone. I have 5 hard drives in my computer, and it didn't touch any of the drives except for the one Windows was on.

In fact, it doesn't touch files not related to Windows. If you have a C:\stuff\ folder, that will remain untouched on the drive after the clean install. Most of what goes to the windows.old folder is the Windows folder, Program Files, Documents and Settings, and a lot of the hidden stuff like %APPDATA%.

PopeOnARope
Jul 23, 2007

Hey! Quit touching my junk!


Trip Report: Windows 7 on a D830.

It's been pretty good for the few days that I've used it, honestly. It's not as fast as I would have liked, but that's what you get on a 2GHz CPU, 4GB DDR2-667 @ CAS5, a 120GB 5400RPM drive, and using far more powerful rigs with it before. I'm really digging it though; things are pretty fast. The only issue I was having was that the laptop was overheating REALLY easily - I'm assuming the quadro card in here wasn't intended for constant use. Due to this, there was some thermal throttling, meaning that the CPU would scale back to 550-600 MHz sometimes. This is bad. I've used RMClock to force it to stay at full tilt, and the effects are to be seen.

I don't really care. I back up my data bi-daily, and have a year and a half of warranty left.

scarymonkey
Jul 15, 2003

by angerbeet


PopeOnARope posted:

Trip Report: Windows 7 on a D830.

It's been pretty good for the few days that I've used it, honestly. It's not as fast as I would have liked, but that's what you get on a 2GHz CPU, 4GB DDR2-667 @ CAS5, a 120GB 5400RPM drive, and using far more powerful rigs with it before. I'm really digging it though; things are pretty fast. The only issue I was having was that the laptop was overheating REALLY easily - I'm assuming the quadro card in here wasn't intended for constant use. Due to this, there was some thermal throttling, meaning that the CPU would scale back to 550-600 MHz sometimes. This is bad. I've used RMClock to force it to stay at full tilt, and the effects are to be seen.

I don't really care. I back up my data bi-daily, and have a year and a half of warranty left.

I have Windows 7 x64 on the D630 installed since availability on MSDN. The D630 is pretty much the D830 with a smaller display (14.1" instead of 15.4"). My system is a little more supped up, 2.2ghz CPU, 8GB of RAM, and 160GB G2 SSD and a 500gb 7200.4 Segate in the optical drive bay. My system doesn't overheat, and I've set the Windows 7 power mode settings set to high performance so my CPU doesn't throttle. With the SSD the system is a pretty much a speed demon.

PopeOnARope
Jul 23, 2007

Hey! Quit touching my junk!


scarymonkey posted:

I have Windows 7 x64 on the D630 installed since availability on MSDN. The D630 is pretty much the D830 with a smaller display (14.1" instead of 15.4"). My system is a little more supped up, 2.2ghz CPU, 8GB of RAM, and 160GB G2 SSD and a 500gb 7200.4 Segate in the optical drive bay. My system doesn't overheat, and I've set the Windows 7 power mode settings set to high performance so my CPU doesn't throttle. With the SSD the system is a pretty much a speed demon.

A little bit stepped up? Dude, what you spent on the storage array in that is more than these laptops go for on ebay.... with 1900x1200 screens and 2.4GHz CPUs and 4GB of ram... oh god it's devalued so.

scarymonkey
Jul 15, 2003

by angerbeet


PopeOnARope posted:

A little bit stepped up? Dude, what you spent on the storage array in that is more than these laptops go for on ebay.... with 1900x1200 screens and 2.4GHz CPUs and 4GB of ram... oh god it's devalued so.

Talking to the wrong person, got this laptop for free from a client about a year or so ago. I spent my own money on the RAM, storage upgrades, and don't regret one bit.

Laptop CPU tech has been mostly stagnant until recently with the release of the quad core i7 mobile processors.

scarymonkey fucked around with this message at 09:23 on Nov 3, 2009

PopeOnARope
Jul 23, 2007

Hey! Quit touching my junk!


scarymonkey posted:

Talking to the wrong person, got this laptop for free from a client about a year or so ago. I spent my own money on the RAM, storage upgrades, and don't regret one bit.

Laptop CPU tech has been mostly stagnant until recently with the release of the quad core i7 mobile processors.

Lucky motherfucker. Granted, you probably spent more upgrading it then I did buying mine; and, despite this being the best way to smack the wasps' nest which is SHSC, is there really a point to mobile I7 at the moment? It's much higher in cost for some decent power management, four cores with two threads, and I'm guessing only two channels of memory...

revolther
May 27, 2008


How else can you max-out Crysis 2 on your 45 minute train ride to university?

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scarymonkey
Jul 15, 2003

by angerbeet


PopeOnARope posted:

Lucky motherfucker. Granted, you probably spent more upgrading it then I did buying mine; and, despite this being the best way to smack the wasps' nest which is SHSC, is there really a point to mobile I7 at the moment? It's much higher in cost for some decent power management, four cores with two threads, and I'm guessing only two channels of memory...

You can get a pretty supped up Core 720QM 1.6GHz laptop such as the Dell Studio 17 for under a grand. Dual channel memory is plenty fast, what's your issue with it? Battery life goes to the shitter, but you get a significant perf boost. With Core i7's turbo mode when all fours aren't being utilized it runs 2 cores at 2.8 ghz. Remember this is different architecture than Core2duo, so a 2.8ghz i7 core is faster than a Core2duo 2.8ghz core.

scarymonkey fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Nov 3, 2009

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