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el topo
Apr 11, 2008

by Fistgrrl


It's a shame that driver education isn't more extensive and really doesn't cover anything that falls under the "unexpected conditions" umbrella. The path to a license should be longer and more demanding, like it is in Finland.

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ExtremeODD
Jul 16, 2005


Ive always thought it should be required to take your vehicle to the nearest parking lot on the first good snow and gently caress around for an hour or two to learn your vehicle. I watched people go in the ditch on one stretch of freeway by my house for 3 days. Yet somehow in my truck with rear tires that may as well be slicks never went in, despite hitting ice and immediately being shot sideways about 20 times. Many 4x4s, suvs, fwd cars in the ditch, yet the 86 ram on crap tires in 2x4 has little issue. People even in south dakota turn into complete retards when this strange white stuff falls.

Fire Storm
Aug 8, 2004

what's the point of life
if there are no sexborgs?


Sponge! posted:

And that's exactly what separates snow drivers from normal people. We know that "Add throttle, dab of oppo perhaps." is a valid and proper choice. 99% of the population is like ZOMG BRAKES I NEED TO STOP NOW STOP STOP STOP! Followed by the sound of folding metal and plastic.
Reminds me of the time I was going down a hill towards a major road and my brakes weren't doing poo poo thanks to the snow, so I wasn't going to stop and was starting to go onto the road. It was either get t-boned by a Hummer OR... turn wheel, hit gas (the major road was not slippery).

I've had one snow-related screw up, it involved me taking a curve and nearly hitting a tree. I learned after that.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?


Fire Storm posted:


I've had one snow-related screw up, it involved me taking a curve and nearly hitting a tree. I learned after that.

Same here, but the lesson for me was more about not waiting too long to replace tires.

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004


el topo posted:

It's a shame that driver education isn't more extensive and really doesn't cover anything that falls under the "unexpected conditions" umbrella. The path to a license should be longer and more demanding, like it is in Finland.

After I got my permit like 12 years ago we had a snow storm that day, got about 10-12 inches and most of the roads around us weren't plowed when I got home from school with my newly acquired permit.

So what's the best thing to do? Go driving of course! My Dad took me out on un-plowed farm roads so I got to learn to drive stick (for the first time) in terrible conditions. Most of the time I couldn't even see the road. "Just stay between the telephone poles." Had never been so true.

Needless to say he also let me lose the back end a few times to get a feel for it. Overall it was a good experience.

Skyssx
Feb 2, 2001

by T. Fine


Godholio posted:

Same here, but the lesson for me was more about not waiting too long to replace tires.

My lesson was when you ask the Firestone dealer for a quote for snow tires, and they never call back, CALL THEM BACK!

Ola
Jul 19, 2004



Detroit Q. Spider posted:

I've long thought that skid control and inclement weather training should be a mandatory part of licensing process. Imagine the number of accidents that might be avoided...

~~*~~you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one~~*~~

We have that in Norway. A couple of hours on a dedicated skid pad, where they teach steering into the skid, braking, swerving to avoid pedestrians:



and turning 180 degrees when stuck on a slippery hill. Quite fun, quite expensive, not that in-depth but not bad.

el topo
Apr 11, 2008

by Fistgrrl


Interestingly enough you now have to use winter tires between mid-December and mid-April (IIRC) in Quebec, which has the side benefit of forcing you to have a look at your tires a couple of times a year.

The Rocket Salad
Sep 1, 2004

lol what

MonkeyNutZ posted:

E: Here you can see the bed on its side with the cab sitting normally
I'd want a smoke after that, too.

Ola posted:

HJELLS ANGELS

Coasterphreak
May 29, 2007
I like cookies.

Sponge! posted:

Exactly. And when I've been schlepping people around who can't get places on their own I've had more than one scream out in terror as I'm calmly spinning the wheel like a submarine hatch with one hand, and jockeying the transmission with the other... And I drive an 89 civic wagovan, and these people are too afraid to drive their focus or escort...

I think the fundamental problem with winter drivers is the failure to understand that screaming will never keep the car out of the ditch.

Nerobro
Nov 4, 2005

Rider now with 100% more titanium!


I beg to differ. i think the problem is our attitude about snow driving. People fear going to drive in it. Fear makes you stupid. Absolutely everyone should spend a night, or several nights each winter doing donuts in the snow. Learn to love the slide.

Comrade Flynn
Jun 1, 2003



Guess this fits here too. Had this happen to me today during a beautiful drive up a mountain:



And the reason why:


That's some fine British engineering!

Timmy Cruise
Jun 9, 2007


So did you come unglued as well when that happened? (sorry, had to)

Seriously, I'm not familiar with the suspension setup - what broke?

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
HEY ILL HAV 2 TXT U L8TR I JUST DROVE IN 2 A DAYCARE AND SCRATCHED MY RAZR

Timmy Cruise posted:

So did you come unglued as well when that happened? (sorry, had to)

Seriously, I'm not familiar with the suspension setup - what broke?

Looks like one of the balljoints for the lower control arm ripped out.

Muffinpox
Sep 7, 2004


Tie rod bushing failed and the wheel pointed wherever it wanted.

INCHI DICKARI
Aug 23, 2006

by FactsAreUseless


Seems about right for a Lotus.

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.

Lotus is too close to Lucas for me to ever drive one

D C
Jun 19, 2004

1-800-HOTLINEBLING
1-800-HOTLINEBLING
1-800-HOTLINEBLING


Comrade Flynn posted:

Guess this fits here too. Had this happen to me today during a beautiful drive up a mountain:



And the reason why:


That's some fine British engineering!

C63 time.

ColHannibal
Sep 17, 2007


Comrade Flynn posted:

That's some fine British engineering!

The axle on a MGB I worked on was held up with 2 stout leather straps.

Rugoberta Munchu
Jun 5, 2003

Do you want a hupyrolysege slcorpselong?

Just jam a wooden dowel in there and hammer everything back together and you'll be fine.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe


at least it didn't catch fire

ultimateforce
Apr 25, 2008

SKINNY JEANS CANT HOLD BACK THIS ARC


Any other Florida AIers might back me up on this one, but every time it rains here it seems like everyone driving has never actually driven in the rain before.

SPOILERS: It rains every single day here half the year.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004



ultimateforce posted:

Any other Florida AIers might back me up on this one, but every time it rains here it seems like everyone driving has never actually driven in the rain before.

SPOILERS: It rains every single day here half the year.

From what I've heard about Florida, the days of the year when it isn't raining, it seems like everyone driving has never actually driven on a sunny day before.

Chompsky Honk
Aug 28, 2009

by T. Finninho


Ola posted:

From what I've heard about Florida, the days of the year when it isn't raining, it seems like everyone driving has never actually driven on a sunny day before.

This is the truest statement. As someone that drives 60,000 miles a year in Pinellas, (one of the most densely populated counties,) it sucks.

Hot Buttered
Apr 27, 2008

...check it and see!

Here in the Panhandle we get an influx of snowbirds in the winter and tourists in the summer. They all drive slow but are otherwise OK. In South Florida, it seems like it is an even mix of retirees so near death that they are barely sentient and natives that seem to think that the road is the best place to take out their aggressions. It is maddening to drive down there.

el topo
Apr 11, 2008

by Fistgrrl


VikingSkull posted:

at least it didn't catch fire

It's not an R8, a Gallardo or a 458 Italia, why would it just catch on fire unexpectedly?

stevobob
Nov 16, 2008

Alchemy - the study of how to turn LS1's into a 20B.


I kind of want to go somewhere that seldom gets a good snowstorm. In Nova Scotia most people have learned how to handle their cars and I haven't seen a snow-related accident in the city this year so far (have heard of people ditching it on the highways due to going too fast, but that'll happen). I want to see some of this bizarre stuff firsthand.

INCHI DICKARI
Aug 23, 2006

by FactsAreUseless


I can't wait to get home to upload a picture I just took at work. 02 passat came in running rough with an oil leak. Stay tuned for the next episode of How the gently caress did that get there Theater.

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.



14 INCH DICK TURBO posted:

I can't wait to get home to upload a picture I just took at work. 02 passat came in running rough with an oil leak. Stay tuned for the next episode of How the gently caress did that get there Theater.

Dagen H
Mar 19, 2009

Hogertrafikomlaggningen


14 INCH DICK TURBO posted:

I can't wait to get home to upload a picture I just took at work. 02 passat came in running rough with an oil leak. Stay tuned for the next episode of How the gently caress did that get there Theater.

Hmmm...75 feet of barbed wire wrapped 'round the crank snout?

Petekill
May 14, 2005

Where's Hammond?
Well I'll call him!


Comrade Flynn posted:

Guess this fits here too. Had this happen to me today during a beautiful drive up a mountain:



And the reason why:


That's some fine British engineering!

Lots Of Trouble, Usually Serious.

my1999gsr
Mar 21, 2009


14 INCH DICK TURBO posted:

I can't wait to get home to upload a picture I just took at work. 02 passat came in running rough with an oil leak. Stay tuned for the next episode of How the gently caress did that get there Theater.

Tell me it's a TDI Passat.

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004



14 INCH DICK TURBO posted:

I can't wait to get home to upload a picture I just took at work. 02 passat came in running rough with an oil leak. Stay tuned for the next episode of How the gently caress did that get there Theater.

We found a cat pancake under the hood of a BMW, where I used to work. That's the kind of poo poo you hide in someone's toolbox.

INCHI DICKARI
Aug 23, 2006

by FactsAreUseless


For some loving reason even when I tilt the image manually and save it, and it shows up on my desk top right side up, Waffleimages still manages to load it sideways. What gives?

Anyways.....



The gently caress is THAT?

Sponge!
Dec 22, 2004

SPORK!


14 INCH DICK TURBO posted:

For some loving reason even when I tilt the image manually and save it, and it shows up on my desk top right side up, Waffleimages still manages to load it sideways. What gives?

Anyways.....



The gently caress is THAT?



At first glance I thought that was a bearing shoe, and I went HOW THE gently caress DID THAT GET UP THERE?! Then I looked harder and now I'm all :???: to what it could be...


I also never saw an oil filler like that and went "did they pour oil in the radiator? Where's the pink Deutschland coolant?" Then saw the valve cover for spatial reference in the 2nd pic...


Are you rotating with windows picture viewer? It saves "changes" to the picture but tries to preserve the original, so if you crop something you can go back a week later and uncrop it. Stupid Microsoft.

Revolvyerom
Nov 12, 2005

Hell yes, tell him we're plenty front right now.

Yeah, my first reaction was bearing shoe as well, and I was expecting this to result in a "So we looked deeper, and saw holes 1/2" wide in places, leading us to find..." chain of progressively bigger jaw-droppers ending in the total internal destruction of the crankshaft.

INCHI DICKARI
Aug 23, 2006

by FactsAreUseless


Revolvyerom posted:

Yeah, my first reaction was bearing shoe as well, and I was expecting this to result in a "So we looked deeper, and saw holes 1/2" wide in places, leading us to find..." chain of progressively bigger jaw-droppers ending in the total internal destruction of the crankshaft.

I wish, we wanted to yank it apart to find out why and where and how but the owner had it towed out as soon as we called to say "Hey we found something nifty in your engine."

Sponge!
Dec 22, 2004

SPORK!


14 INCH DICK TURBO posted:

I wish, we wanted to yank it apart to find out why and where and how but the owner had it towed out as soon as we called to say "Hey we found something nifty in your engine."

You've got his number, call him in a week and just say its been keeping you awake at nights, you have to know what actually happened!

shy boy from chess club
Jun 11, 2008

It wasnt that bad, after you left I got to help put out the fire!



How is that not a bearing shell? It even has the notch and everything. What kind of noises was it making? HOW DID IT GET IN THERE?

e: The cams don't have bearing shells on those engines so it would have had to come from the bottom end which means it would have to squeeze upwards through an oil galley. I'm gonna tell myself the owner dropped it in through the top to gently caress with you guys and is laughing like a big rear end in a top hat right now.

shy boy from chess club fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Jan 18, 2011

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charliemonster42
Sep 14, 2005
VW: Ze Official Kar Ov Ze Sird Reich

Looks like a cam chain guide to me. The cams are timing belt driven, but only to the intake cam. There is an internal chain that drives the exhaust cam. Probably the guide from that. That's my guess, anyway.

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