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Goo
Aug 30, 2002

Hello Drippy


If we do have an actual product release schedule I haven't been able to figure out what it is.

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mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006



I said gently caress it and ordered the Proteus Core. I'm much less afraid of the mouse being "obsolete" than I am of just plain overpaying.

Hashtag Banterzone
Dec 8, 2005


Lifetime Winner of the willkill4food Honorary Bad Posting Award in PWM

Goo my G500 dies and reconnects randomly, and I've ruled out everything except the mouse itself. This is my 2nd logitech gaming mouse that died right out of warranty. Do I have any chance of getting a replacement? I really liked it but I'm hesitant to get another Logitech mouse.

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!



Hashtag Banterzone posted:

Goo my G500 dies and reconnects randomly, and I've ruled out everything except the mouse itself. This is my 2nd logitech gaming mouse that died right out of warranty. Do I have any chance of getting a replacement? I really liked it but I'm hesitant to get another Logitech mouse.

The most common failure is the braided wire in the USB cable breaking but still kind of being almost connected so it will work until it flexes a bit and then it disconnects. If it's still in warranty they'll replace it, if not they might replace it but probably not. I'd give them a call.

If you're handy and have a soldering iron you can probably also fix it yourself.

Hashtag Banterzone
Dec 8, 2005


Lifetime Winner of the willkill4food Honorary Bad Posting Award in PWM

Rexxed posted:

The most common failure is the braided wire in the USB cable breaking but still kind of being almost connected so it will work until it flexes a bit and then it disconnects. If it's still in warranty they'll replace it, if not they might replace it but probably not. I'd give them a call.

If you're handy and have a soldering iron you can probably also fix it yourself.

Thanks, I'll take a look at the wire. Maybe I can fix it.

Goo
Aug 30, 2002

Hello Drippy


If you do contact Customer Care please PM me your case ID number.

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!



Hashtag Banterzone posted:

Thanks, I'll take a look at the wire. Maybe I can fix it.

I got a warranty replacement on my G400 a while back, but while I was waiting for it in the mail I ended up cutting a chunk out of the existing cable and rejoining it. It was a really lovely job but the mouse works perfectly (for now).

This is the piece I removed because the bulge in the cable just outside the front of the mouse seemed like the culprit.


I split out the cables and soldered them to a little piece of protoboard I had handy from another project, but it's probably easier to rejoin them inline. The hardest part is that the cables are super small braided wires so it's very very easy to damage them while stripping them:


I laid the new cable back into the side channel where the old one went which has some 90' bends which may be an issue in the future, but I tried to do a little strain relief on the part that comes out the top of the mouse just with some heat shrink tubing. I'm sure at some point it will have another failure and I'll have to bust out the replacement G400S, but I may perform some more surgery to swap the shells because I'm not a fan of the blue weirdness on the -S models. I don't know if they'll actually match exactly but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

A cleaner job would've been to get the cable right into the modular plug that is there but after poking around at it I realized I didn't have whatever would be needed to crimp it in properly and I didn't want to mangle the plug so I did my fix just down away from it. The G500 internals will be different but I'm sure there are some guides to taking them apart online if feel like doing it.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt



Goo posted:

If we do have an actual product release schedule I haven't been able to figure out what it is.

"figure out"

"figure" also means "number"

"out" has 3 letters

Half-Life 3 G503 confirmed.

Eikre
May 2, 2009


So apparently my girlfriend really loathes the sounds of mouse-clicks sometimes.

gently caress it, whatever. Anybody know a good mouse that has a tactile click but not an audible one? I take corded over wireless and sometimes I like extra buttons.

Rabid Snake
Aug 6, 2004





Is there any reason to spend $20 more for the G502 over the G402 besides the improved scrollwheel and the added two more buttons?

Horizontal Tree
Dec 31, 2009


It also has adjustable weights, not that I personally find that at all important. The shape is very slightly different and the thumb buttons are shaped differently. Largely comes down to personal preference.
The scroll wheel isn't "improved" though, its a different design entirely with toggle-able freescroll and tilt buttons. I generally don't like these features but I'm actually happy with them on the G502. The wheel doesn't lose all of its indexing because of the freescroll mode.

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002



Rabid Snake posted:

Is there any reason to spend $20 more for the G502 over the G402 besides the improved scrollwheel and the added two more buttons?

G502 comes with a 3 year warranty, G402 only has a 2 year.

G402 has a non-braided cable. That's a huge negative for me, some people don't care at all.

G402 has a slightly different layout, the DPS toggle button is farther down.

G402 is much lighter weight, it's ~100g where the G502 is ~120g. This is a gigantic plus for the G402.

They use different sensors, there's lots of spergy details about them out there, both are fine anyway.

So there are upsides to both of them really.

Tagichatn
Jun 7, 2009



My Logitech MX518 seems to be dying so I've been looking for a replacement one but it looks like they aren't sold anymore. I was sad when the MX510 was discontinued but the MX518 was practically the same, is there something that feels and looks similar to the MX518 or should I just buy a used one? The g series looks like futuristic roboporn.

drewmoney
Mar 11, 2004


Only looked around the last couple of pages so not sure if it's been mentioned before but I just recently got a Final Mouse (http://www.finalmouse.com) and really like it.

Driverless, high quality, simple.

I've been using a Logitech g500 for a long time and think the Final Mouse is an upgrade.

$67.12 on Amazon with Prime.

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002



Final Mouse seems kind of odd to me. It's a stock OEM shell with stock sensors and switches, but the markup on it is absolutely insane for how little features it has. It also has some QC problems apparently, lots of defective mice getting sent out.

Also kind of weird that it only operates at 500hz, but apparently it doesn't seem to matter? The sensor quality is apparently very good. It also uses Omron's and has a braided cable, and super lightweight. Also has a 3 year limited(?) warranty, but who the hell knows what kind of RMA service you'll get out of them.

The quality looks good but the price point is kind of outrageous.

Chillyrabbit
Oct 24, 2012

The only sword wielding rabbit on the internet




Ultra Carp

Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

Final Mouse seems kind of odd to me. It's a stock OEM shell with stock sensors and switches, but the markup on it is absolutely insane for how little features it has. It also has some QC problems apparently, lots of defective mice getting sent out.

Also kind of weird that it only operates at 500hz, but apparently it doesn't seem to matter? The sensor quality is apparently very good. It also uses Omron's and has a braided cable, and super lightweight. Also has a 3 year limited(?) warranty, but who the hell knows what kind of RMA service you'll get out of them.

The quality looks good but the price point is kind of outrageous.

After reading half of the OCN thread on the FM, it seems that it is a basic no frills mouse which it seems to do adequately from what other people say. But the 67$ is probably a deal breaker for most people since it is that basic and simple of a mouse.

I would totally buy it for 50$ CAD.

nftyw
Dec 27, 2006

It is a game... where you will put your life on the line.


Lipstick Apathy

Those expensive simple, basic mice is just making me wish I had stockpiled on MX300s or G1s while I had the chance. All these new mice have some kind of flaw that causes strange or ridiculous problems. I click to pull the trigger on my assault rifle and then watch it fire non-stop until I mash left click again.

Diddie
Aug 31, 2001

What the heck is going on in here???


Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

Final Mouse seems kind of odd to me. It's a stock OEM shell with stock sensors and switches, but the markup on it is absolutely insane for how little features it has. It also has some QC problems apparently, lots of defective mice getting sent out.

Also kind of weird that it only operates at 500hz, but apparently it doesn't seem to matter? The sensor quality is apparently very good. It also uses Omron's and has a braided cable, and super lightweight. Also has a 3 year limited(?) warranty, but who the hell knows what kind of RMA service you'll get out of them.

The quality looks good but the price point is kind of outrageous.

I bought one on Amazon to try out and the overall build quality made me return it. Sensor and button performance were fine though if that's all that matters to you.

pcsdude
Feb 20, 2015


As long as it's still usable.

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002



Diddie posted:

I bought one on Amazon to try out and the overall build quality made me return it. Sensor and button performance were fine though if that's all that matters to you.

Yeah for close to $70 a barebones mouse better feel absolutely solid like a rock. Especially considering that the G502 and Avior/Naos7000 cost the same price and are very solid mice with tons of extra features.

HoboMan
Nov 4, 2010



This tread is too long to read. What is a decent wired mouse + keyboard I can get for less than $40? tia

Rabid Snake
Aug 6, 2004





Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

G502 comes with a 3 year warranty, G402 only has a 2 year.

G402 has a non-braided cable. That's a huge negative for me, some people don't care at all.

G402 has a slightly different layout, the DPS toggle button is farther down.

G402 is much lighter weight, it's ~100g where the G502 is ~120g. This is a gigantic plus for the G402.

They use different sensors, there's lots of spergy details about them out there, both are fine anyway.

So there are upsides to both of them really.

Thanks for the info. I ended up buying the G402 to save $20 and it feels like a good enough replacement for my MX518.

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

HoboMan posted:

This tread is too long to read. What is a decent wired mouse + keyboard I can get for less than $40? tia

At that price point, it doesn't matter. They're all gonna be membrane keyboards and generic optical mice, so pick whatever is in your budget and suits your fancy. Unless you're talking about one of those all-in-one combination units, but I don't think they're available for $40.

nftyw
Dec 27, 2006

It is a game... where you will put your life on the line.


Lipstick Apathy

HoboMan posted:

This tread is too long to read. What is a decent wired mouse + keyboard I can get for less than $40? tia

http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-...e/dp/B00B7GV802

There you go enjoy

e: vvv I like the keytronics and the g100s is a decent gaming grade mouse, I support these choices.

nftyw fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Feb 23, 2015

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



HoboMan posted:

This tread is too long to read. What is a decent wired mouse + keyboard I can get for less than $40? tia

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G100...&keywords=g100s a good mouse
http://www.amazon.com/KeyTronicEMS-...words=keytronic it's a keyboard, and it works.

Calidus
Oct 31, 2011

Stand back I'm going to try science!

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9000/...-mouse-review/3

Looks promising

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002




It's been out for a while. It has an extremely bad laser sensor with built in inconsistent acceleration, that's about as damning as it gets. Also weighs 110g without cable it seems, which is towards the 'very heavy' side of things (though not as much as a G502 anyway). No Warranty info available from the company at all, just a generic "Well it might have one but we aren't saying."

nftyw
Dec 27, 2006

It is a game... where you will put your life on the line.


Lipstick Apathy

Looks like they took leftover parts from a RAT and glued them together with more plastic.

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

I'm kinda surprised that despite talking about the muzzle for the cable in multiple paragraphs, they didn't actually provide a clear picture of it. A couple shots where you can see it poking out the end, but nothing close to a front profile shot.

Coxswain Balls
Jun 3, 2001



The G602 was on sale today, so I picked one up to try out. I still like the Anywhere MX, but the Logitech gaming software doesn't work with it, and I wanted to see how useful the extra buttons would be. I've been pretty pleased with it so far, and I'm most surprised with the fact that it seems to track just fine on glass, despite not having a Darkfield sensor. It does get a bit jittery on clean glass compared to the Anywhere MX, but so far it seems perfectly fine for regular browsing and office tasks. Still need to use it a bit more to put it in its paces, but it seems a lot less likely that I'll be returning it like I first thought I would.

Sh4
Feb 8, 2009


Returned my piece of poo poo G502 and received the replacement today, scroll wheel is now scrolling properly but some buttons need way less pressure to press than the other ones, the worst one is left click so I think they sent me a refurbished mouse, also the teflon pads are all warped.
G502 ownership has not been pleasant for me, I have the whole logitech set (G15, G502 and G35) and only the keyboard has been trouble free for me, I'm not buying logitech anymore.

As additional advice, stay away from logitech 7.1 headsets, they never work properly in games because of the lovely usb soundcard (crackling sound, volume going up/down for no reasons) and I had to RMA mine a few times for sound problems, then buy a new one because they refused to RMA it because some plastic was cracked (they all crack in the same spot, just go on logitech forums, it's so bad that a guy with a 3d printer is making mad money selling replacement parts) and then I bought the last one after last year big price cut and it is definitely not the same product, the sound is really bad quality compared to the old ones, pretty sure they just put cheaper drivers in them to lower the price.

Positronic Spleen
May 4, 2010


Sh4 posted:

Returned my piece of poo poo G502 and received the replacement today, scroll wheel is now scrolling properly but some buttons need way less pressure to press than the other ones, the worst one is left click so I think they sent me a refurbished mouse, also the teflon pads are all warped.
G502 ownership has not been pleasant for me, I have the whole logitech set (G15, G502 and G35) and only the keyboard has been trouble free for me, I'm not buying logitech anymore.

As additional advice, stay away from logitech 7.1 headsets, they never work properly in games because of the lovely usb soundcard (crackling sound, volume going up/down for no reasons) and I had to RMA mine a few times for sound problems, then buy a new one because they refused to RMA it because some plastic was cracked (they all crack in the same spot, just go on logitech forums, it's so bad that a guy with a 3d printer is making mad money selling replacement parts) and then I bought the last one after last year big price cut and it is definitely not the same product, the sound is really bad quality compared to the old ones, pretty sure they just put cheaper drivers in them to lower the price.
Although I've had much better luck with their mice/keyboards, I have to agree about the headsets, they're terrible. I got the wireless one as a gift, and not only is there somewhat significant neutral "buzz", but the fucker keeps disconnecting at random, even at just four feet from the dongle; reconnecting is fast enough to do manually, but why isn't it automatic? Everything else about it seems solid, but those negatives are pretty big for me, it's a real shame since I otherwise like it a lot.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?


I've never had audio quality problems with my G930 headset and the things still feel solid after years of getting thrown in my backpack, slept on, etc. but I do have the random disconnect problem. A bunch of my friends also have or had G930s and experience the same issues, which obviously get much worse if we have a LAN party and get a bunch of them in the same room.

I wish I could tell the things that I'd prefer bad audio to nothing at all. It seems like even when walking away from the base to test range it doesn't really have any falloff. It's just perfect->slightly garbled->nothing. It really needs more of a cell phone or lossy VoIP type behavior with bad signals.

Ziploc
Sep 19, 2006
MX-5

Does anyone make anything similar to this?





It's really super handy to have a mouse chilln' on your laptop for the times you decide you wanna use it. Mine's getting a bit worn out. And replacements command a hefty premium due to the fact that there was no successor.

marjorie
May 4, 2014



Eikre posted:

So apparently my girlfriend really loathes the sounds of mouse-clicks sometimes.

gently caress it, whatever. Anybody know a good mouse that has a tactile click but not an audible one? I take corded over wireless and sometimes I like extra buttons.

I'm also looking for a quiet-click mouse, but wireless for use with my laptop. I also prefer a scroll wheel that has pretty strong ratcheting (not really sure how to explain that better, but I don't like super loose free scrolls). Just using it for basic browsing and light gaming (no precision fps needs or crazy customizable buttons). Any ideas are appreciated.

Harik
Sep 9, 2001

From the hard streets of Moscow
First dog to touch the stars




Plaster Town Cop

My v450 finally died on me (clicks become doubleclicks on the right button). I used it as an excuse to get a G700s, but I was wondering if there's "one weird trick" to clean the button and get some more use out of it? It's still a good mouse and I'd keep it around as a backup.

Late Unpleasantness
Mar 26, 2008

I'm going to start
the googly now.


Harik posted:

My v450 finally died on me (clicks become doubleclicks on the right button). I used it as an excuse to get a G700s, but I was wondering if there's "one weird trick" to clean the button and get some more use out of it? It's still a good mouse and I'd keep it around as a backup.

This is the one weird trick:



And this is how you do it. Helped me keep rocking a G5. Oh yeah.

Harik
Sep 9, 2001

From the hard streets of Moscow
First dog to touch the stars




Plaster Town Cop

Late Unpleasantness posted:

This is the one weird trick:



And this is how you do it. Helped me keep rocking a G5. Oh yeah.

Appreciate it, I'll give that a shot.

It's a well-used mouse, that's for sure. It's got a rubberized grip on it, and where my thumb rests is worn completely through to the interior plastic.

What's the deal with the 'flat' mice? Microsoft and Logitech both have them - and they look pretty strange. I guess you bend them into shape and flatten them for storage - laptop accessory?

Alan_Shore
Dec 2, 2004



Got a weird problem with my Logitech G700s (had it around 2 months).

It was working fine at Christmas. I just got it and my laptop shipped to where I am. It won't recognise the battery and will only work with the the cable plugged in (so I get that delightful blinking red light). However when it's plugged in, and I put the battery in, the lights all blink green for a few moments before going back to red. So it recognises that a battery has been put in there/

Is it just a case of the battery dying supremely early for some reason? If so, I can just replace it with another rechargeable Ni-MH battery I guess. It's just weird is all.

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Quaternion Cat
Feb 19, 2011

Affeline Space


Alan_Shore posted:

Got a weird problem with my Logitech G700s (had it around 2 months).

It was working fine at Christmas. I just got it and my laptop shipped to where I am. It won't recognise the battery and will only work with the the cable plugged in (so I get that delightful blinking red light). However when it's plugged in, and I put the battery in, the lights all blink green for a few moments before going back to red. So it recognises that a battery has been put in there/

Is it just a case of the battery dying supremely early for some reason? If so, I can just replace it with another rechargeable Ni-MH battery I guess. It's just weird is all.

Yeah, you can replace it with any NiMH battery, I usually grab energizer or duracell high capacity ones, rather than eneloops: The mouse gets down to red reasonably quickly but still works for ages. (edit - by ages, I still only mean 2-3 days maximum on energy saver settings...)

The G700 DOES kinda ruin batteries though, but it ruins mine over the course of about a year of use. 2 months is a bit quick though! To be fair, I'm not sure if it's just the recycle rate of once every 2-3 days, or if the G700 is maybe charging them a bit too quickly or something like that, but it seems to be worth replacing them every year or so. Ideally you'd probably want to get like a multimeter and check what voltage the battery has on it (possibly while under load), since I imagine it just can't hold a voltage any more for some reason, possibly it was just a duff in some way? If it happens to another battery, something might be wrong with your mouse, but, it's probably just a duff battery.

One thing I would say is that if you literally *just* got it shipped to you, like today, did it travel through somewhere quite cold and did you let it warm up back to room temperature yet? Temperature can be a big deal for batteries.

Quaternion Cat fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Mar 2, 2015

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