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spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.
I've just bought an e63 and cannot believe how bad the phonebook is.

It is honestly the same application that I had on my Nokia phone 12 years ago, with a tiny extra bit of front end nailed on.

Is there any alternative that works well? i.e.
Will let me search by company name
Will fit an entire contact card on a single screen
Will let me view an address without having to go into edit mode
Doesn't truncate the address after a few lines

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Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
New screens for Symbian^4 released.
http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/07/16/symbian4.to.have.pop.up.menus.easier.management/

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!

spog posted:

I've just bought an e63 and cannot believe how bad the phonebook is.

It is honestly the same application that I had on my Nokia phone 12 years ago, with a tiny extra bit of front end nailed on.

Is there any alternative that works well? i.e.
Will let me search by company name
Will fit an entire contact card on a single screen
Will let me view an address without having to go into edit mode
Doesn't truncate the address after a few lines

Nope, S60v3fp1 is hosed up like that.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Dr Tran posted:

Nope, S60v3fp1 is hosed up like that.

It's appalling.

I feel like I just bought a new family saloon, only to open the bonnet and find out that there's a steam engine there.

Made of cardboard.

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!
We're getting a new CEO!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703720504575377750449338786.html

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
hoo ah
Man Nokia just needs someone to tie together the awesome like the ovi stuff (unlimited pic and video uploads) into one good feels good man package.

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.
Ovi store should be put in a gunny sack and thrown in the river. Also, whoever designed Nokia's text prediction system should be shot.

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Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

HPL posted:

Ovi store should be put in a gunny sack and thrown in the river. Also, whoever designed Nokia's text prediction system should be shot.
Haha, that was one of the first things I turned off. Is it really that bad? I don't see a need for it since my E72 has a nice keyboard.

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.
It often makes strange choices for words. For instance for short words, like four or five letters long, it will sometimes opt for the beginning of a long word or some other thing instead of going to the entire short word. For instance, if you want to type "on" or "no", the default word choice is "nn".

There also doesn't seem to be any accounting for frequency of use so if there are several choices for a key combo, it will always opt for the order programmed into it as opposed to whichever word you use most often.

And then there's the way it forgets custom words after a while no matter how often you use them.

Disco Cat
Oct 20, 2002
Which phone/version of symbian are you using? Because my very old E51 predicts text in the exact opposite way. Most frequently used words are first, and if you want to change the word, you just type it three times in a row. And I still have custom words stored from 3 years ago.

Civil
Apr 21, 2003

Do you see this? This means "Have a nice day".
I recently retired my n82 in favor of a cheap Android phone and am blown away by how far behind S60 feels now. PC Suite/Ovi and infrequent updates exacerbate the disparity. I hope Nokia is supporting more recent devices better now. I miss the camera on my n82, but that's about it.

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.

Disco Cat posted:

Which phone/version of symbian are you using? Because my very old E51 predicts text in the exact opposite way. Most frequently used words are first, and if you want to change the word, you just type it three times in a row. And I still have custom words stored from 3 years ago.

N82. And if you want to type "at", it defaults to "bt". Grrrr.

LiquidRain
May 21, 2007

Watch the madness!

That's thoroughly broken. Certainly doesn't happen on my N82. I'd tell you where to look up prediction settings but trying to find a setting in S60... :smithicide:

Civil
Apr 21, 2003

Do you see this? This means "Have a nice day".

HPL posted:

N82. And if you want to type "at", it defaults to "bt". Grrrr.

Mine had the exact same problem you describe. Not the at/bt problem, but countless others. Forgetting words, trying obscure words prior to common ones, not recognizing common words I frequently used. Frustrating.

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.
Here's an article on the matter: http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/2010/05/dear-nokia-what-the-hell-did-you-to-t9.html

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!
Does the custom dictionary app from beta labs not help?

Septimus
Aug 30, 2003
Wasabi? Why not!
The cameras on symbian phones are awesome. Check out this photo taken with an E72.

What other platform sports a camera anywhere as good? The new aye fone?

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!
Speaking of cameras, here's some N8 links

Image samples from the N8
http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/07/09/nokia-n8-sample-images-untouched/
On one of the photos, you can see cobwebs

Imaging of the N8
http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/07/08/nokia-n8-camera-2260-days-in-the-making-part-12/
Neat feature: the resolution is so high, they turned off edge enhancement

Video on the N8
http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/07/09/nokia-n8-camera-2260-days-in-the-making-part-22/
H264 video at 12mbps, 48khz aac stereo audio at 128kbps

Guilty
May 3, 2003
Ask me about how people having a bad reaction to MSG makes them racist, because I've never heard of gluten sensitivity
Great, I just updated the firmware on my xpressmusic, and I lost the option to type in full screen keyboard and have to use the mini keyboard, is there a way to get that back?

edit: oh I see, now it hinges on the way the phone is facing, so I have ot turn it. That's pretty cool actually

Guilty fucked around with this message at 12:32 on Jul 25, 2010

VERTiG0
Jul 11, 2001

go move over bro

Septimus posted:

The cameras on symbian phones are awesome. Check out this photo taken with an E72.

What other platform sports a camera anywhere as good? The new aye fone?

There's no way that isn't heavily retouched, the cameras on E-Series phones are absolute loving garbage. My E71 has the worst camera in any phone ever.

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Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
The E72 camera isn't the greatest but it's not bad for a cell phone, especially compared to my LG VX8550.
This is a picture from our tomato garden.

Septimus
Aug 30, 2003
Wasabi? Why not!

VERTiG0 posted:

There's no way that isn't heavily retouched, the cameras on E-Series phones are absolute loving garbage. My E71 has the worst camera in any phone ever.

Doesn't the E72 have a significantly better camera then the E71?

Here's a flickr album that has more decent images taken with the E72

VERTiG0
Jul 11, 2001

go move over bro
Okay it's definitely better.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Hi Symbian thread, long time no see. I'm here to announce that my N82 must go!

Web Jew.0
May 13, 2009

Peven Stan posted:

The E72 camera isn't the greatest but it's not bad for a cell phone, especially compared to my LG VX8550.
This is a picture from our tomato garden.


That's a really nice picture actually. I had the e72 for a couple months... guess I took its camera for granted.

nerdz
Oct 12, 2004


Complex, statistically improbable things are by their nature more difficult to explain than simple, statistically probable things.
Grimey Drawer
Goddamn, Is there any way to access your Ovi Files without having to install the stupid files connector app in every PC you use? That's probably the most stupid design decision I've seen nokia make after the NGage. I sent some pictures to my Ovi account from my phone, and decided to open them from my linux pc at work, and I can't access them without installing the app.

Besides that, I'm loving my new E72 (and i'm using flickr instead)

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!

nerdz posted:

(and i'm using flickr instead)

Worth every penny

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Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

nerdz posted:

Goddamn, Is there any way to access your Ovi Files without having to install the stupid files connector app in every PC you use? That's probably the most stupid design decision I've seen nokia make after the NGage. I sent some pictures to my Ovi account from my phone, and decided to open them from my linux pc at work, and I can't access them without installing the app.

Besides that, I'm loving my new E72 (and i'm using flickr instead)
I can get my pics off share.ovi.com using the web browser. I have it set up so that it uploads the pics I take to my private media hoard on ovi.

nerdz
Oct 12, 2004


Complex, statistically improbable things are by their nature more difficult to explain than simple, statistically probable things.
Grimey Drawer

Peven Stan posted:

I can get my pics off share.ovi.com using the web browser. I have it set up so that it uploads the pics I take to my private media hoard on ovi.

Yesssss that's it! I'm dumb as hell, thanks. Ovi Files and Ovi Sharing are two completely different services.

Septimus
Aug 30, 2003
Wasabi? Why not!

nerdz posted:

Goddamn, Is there any way to access your Ovi Files without having to install the stupid files connector app in every PC you use? That's probably the most stupid design decision I've seen nokia make after the NGage. I sent some pictures to my Ovi account from my phone, and decided to open them from my linux pc at work, and I can't access them without installing the app.

Besides that, I'm loving my new E72 (and i'm using flickr instead)

You could just browse for the images in mass storage mode. There should be an "images" directory on your SD card or phone memory. No need to use OVI suite really.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Anyone use Opera Mobile for S60v5? It's great but every once in a while it decides to delete either my speed dial sites, everything else I've saved (browsing history, saved passwords, etc) or both seemingly at random. I thought it was because I had it installed on the tiny amount of phone memory but after installed it to a half-empty SD card it still does this poo poo sometimes.

nerdz
Oct 12, 2004


Complex, statistically improbable things are by their nature more difficult to explain than simple, statistically probable things.
Grimey Drawer

Septimus posted:

You could just browse for the images in mass storage mode. There should be an "images" directory on your SD card or phone memory. No need to use OVI suite really.

The E72 USB port is not the same as the hundreds of mini-usb cables I have lying around at the office, and I forgot to bring it with me.

Septimus
Aug 30, 2003
Wasabi? Why not!
Is this what it looks like? WTF Nokia

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!
I've been using Opera 10.1 a lot lately. Haven't lost any customizations like speed dial or passwords yet.

Septimus posted:

Is this what it looks like? WTF Nokia

Bad angle, but it is a micro USB cable. I probably have 10 of them around the house right now.

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

nerdz posted:

The E72 USB port is not the same as the hundreds of mini-usb cables I have lying around at the office, and I forgot to bring it with me.
The E72 port is micro-USB, which is an official standard. I got a 3 foot cable off monoprice.com for like $3 shipped.

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.

Peven Stan posted:

The E72 port is micro-USB, which is an official standard.

It may be but it hasn't been accepted all that widely because it's not much of an improvement over mini-USB. Which I guess makes it a perfect match for Nokia.

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

HPL posted:

It may be but it hasn't been accepted all that widely because it's not much of an improvement over mini-USB. Which I guess makes it a perfect match for Nokia.
Oh I concur completely, and I think it's a dick move on Nokia's part not to use mini-USB which is basically the same size.

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!

HPL posted:

Which I guess makes it a perfect match for Nokia.
and HTC, Motorola, Sony-Ericsson, Palm, Blackberry, Amazon, HP, Microsoft, Dell, Plantronics, Jawbone, etc. Apple is the only company not jumping on the micro-USB standard.

The only phones using mini-usb nowadays are cheap Chinese knockoffs.

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.

Peven Stan posted:

Oh I concur completely, and I think it's a dick move on Nokia's part not to use mini-USB which is basically the same size.

That's what gets me. There's barely any improvement compared to the difference between USB and mini-USB. If it were something the size of a 3.5mm plug, that would be pretty cool though.

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Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!

HPL posted:

That's what gets me. There's barely any improvement compared to the difference between USB and mini-USB. If it were something the size of a 3.5mm plug, that would be pretty cool though.

micro-USB handles 10x more connections over it's lifetime. Its also part of the USB 3.0 connector.

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