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Who Killed WCW?
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bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004

Yeah, but you scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should.


That World Title bracket looks like it has 2/3 of the WCW roster

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Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW


It's a disappointment the matches were so short. Some of them sound like a lot of fun and it's a good idea in concept. In concept.

Bret vs. Saturn and Kidman are interesting matchups. I want to see Scott Hall vs. Lash LeRoux badly. Hennig/Jarrett must have been a fun match, even if quick.

I would like to see the WWE or even TNA do a monster sized tournament. No 8 Man Tournament. A big huge one where it engulfs the show into nothing but Tournament matches. We all love Beat the Clock, so I think this would be good in giving us an excuse to watch good wrestling matches.

Dragging Iron Feet
Nov 10, 2007

by T. Finn


Skinty McEdger posted:

A few highlights of that tournament:

Madusa's first match against Meng was a punishment for her refusal to wrestle in a dressing gown match the week before (itself a shot at the WWE for their use of tits and rear end). She was squashed in under a minute while Tony and Heenan alternate between using Owen voices at her being destroyed, and then finding it hillarious.

Madusa won her second match against Evan Karagias by rubbing her tits in his face in the corner and allowing him to grope her. When he was overcome by this she mounted him and gave him a big french kiss for the 3 count.

Sadly Madusa faced Benoit in the second round and got murdered. Well except she didn't. She went toe to toe with Benoit for a good portion of the match until he took control. Karagias then ran in to protest the man on woman violence to the referee. The referee then beat up Karagias for comming in the ring. While the ref was beating up the wrestler, Jeff Jarrett came in to the ring to attack Benoit for 'commiting violence against a woman like they do up north.' The ref turns round and sees that Benoit is down and DQ's Madusa. Madusa attacks Jarrett and clears him out of the ring, where he picks up the mic to tell her that 'he screwed her out of the WCW title.'
Also Karagias vs Ref was on the following Nitro. I have all this poo poo on tape in a box deeply buried somewhere in a garden shed, I should really try and dig them out.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA


Lone Rogue posted:

It's a disappointment the matches were so short. Some of them sound like a lot of fun and it's a good idea in concept. In concept.

Bret vs. Saturn and Kidman are interesting matchups. I want to see Scott Hall vs. Lash LeRoux badly. Hennig/Jarrett must have been a fun match, even if quick.

I would like to see the WWE or even TNA do a monster sized tournament. No 8 Man Tournament. A big huge one where it engulfs the show into nothing but Tournament matches. We all love Beat the Clock, so I think this would be good in giving us an excuse to watch good wrestling matches.

Some of them do, but most just sound horrible. I also double Hennig/Jarrett was that good since Hennig gave zero poo poo throughout his WCW career and especially after the Flair feud ended.

Miller vs Leroux? Ugh.

Hall vs Sid? Yikes.

Sting vs Knobs?

Buff Bagwell vs STEVIE RAY? Holy poo poo, I need to see that match. I have no memory of it, it must have been something else.

There's a handful of interesting matches, and just a huge helping of horrible.

Zack_Gochuck
Jan 3, 2007

Stupid Wrestling People


CombineThresher posted:


Stupid as it was, it did get Raven over and hiring a porn star was perfect for those two. Raven has said in shoot interviews that he was amazed at how well fans responded to those stupid vignettes that he thought would sink his career.

Don't know if it's been posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSC2inxFn5Y

Karmine
Oct 23, 2003

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.


Lone Rogue posted:

I would like to see the WWE or even TNA do a monster sized tournament. No 8 Man Tournament. A big huge one where it engulfs the show into nothing but Tournament matches. We all love Beat the Clock, so I think this would be good in giving us an excuse to watch good wrestling matches.

This was what WrestleMania IV was and I don't care what anyone says, it was awesome

But yeah it would be more awesome now because there are a lot more good workers on the roster.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW


Karmine posted:

This was what WrestleMania IV was and I don't care what anyone says, it was awesome

But yeah it would be more awesome now because there are a lot more good workers on the roster.

WWE Raw Tournament: Big Show, Carlito, Chavo, Chris Masters, Cody Rhodes, Evan Borne, Jack Swagger, John Cena, Kofi Kingston, Mark Henry, MVP, Randy Orton, Santino, Shawn Michaels, Ted DiBiase, Triple H. Boom. 16 Man Tournament.

WWE SD! Tournament: Batista, Charlie Haas, Chris Jericho, CM Punk, Dolph Ziggler, Eric Escobar, Finlay, Jimmy Wang Yang, Kane, Luke Gallows, Matt Hardy, Mike Knox, R-Truth, Rey Mysterio, Great Khali and John Morrison. Again, 16 Man Tournament.

TNA Tournament: Abyss, D'Angelo DeNiro, Daniels, Desmond Wolfe, Dr. Stevie, Hernandez, Jay Lethal, Jeff Jarrett, Kurt Angle, Matt Morgan, Mick Foley, Raven, Rhino, Samoa Joe, Scott Steiner, Tomko and Sean Morely. Even this would be a drat good tournament.

Is there anyone who wouldn't want to see a Raw, Smackdown! or Impact consisting of eight matches, all tournament matches? Even if it ended up being Big Show vs. Chris Masters, Luke Gallows vs. Great Khali or Mick Foley vs. Raven in one of them?

Punch McLightning
Sep 19, 2005

family sticks together





Grimey Drawer

I just thought of something I've never seen and have only read about.

Basically, WCW called up a guy from the Power Plant that they were allegedly very high on. They put him in a match with DDP. During this match, the new guy climbed to the top rope, leading to DDP running into the ropes as a normal set up for the 'crotch yourself on the turnbuckle' thing.

Instead of doing it, said new guy screamed at the top of his lungs and hurled himself into the ring.

The new guy was never heard from again.

I think he may have worn a mask, but I can't Google anything up.

CVagts
Oct 19, 2009


Rodney the Piper posted:

I just thought of something I've never seen and have only read about.

Basically, WCW called up a guy from the Power Plant that they were allegedly very high on. They put him in a match with DDP. During this match, the new guy climbed to the top rope, leading to DDP running into the ropes as a normal set up for the 'crotch yourself on the turnbuckle' thing.

Instead of doing it, said new guy screamed at the top of his lungs and hurled himself into the ring.

The new guy was never heard from again.

I think he may have worn a mask, but I can't Google anything up.

DDP vs. The Machine. It happened on Thunder. It was very hilarious.

Here. http://www.wrestlinggonewrong.com/v...hine_ropes.html

Rusty Shackelford
Feb 7, 2005


CVagts posted:

DDP vs. The Machine. It happened on Thunder. It was very hilarious.

Here. http://www.wrestlinggonewrong.com/v...hine_ropes.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emory_Hale

He's dead.

CombineThresher
Apr 10, 2006

GIT R DONNE


Lone Rogue posted:

Mick Foley vs. Raven

Shameless mark that I am, I'd probably still get a kick out of this match.

Kammat
Feb 9, 2008
Odd Person

Rusty Shackelford posted:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emory_Hale

He's dead.

drat. Now I feel a bit guilty for laughing at the clip, but his jump is so epic I can't help it.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA


At the urging of my dear friend NAME OF FRIEND, I have opted to enter this thread to post my favorite WCW what-in-the-world-is-happening moment of all.

Lex Luger ... is becoming ... ... the Total Package.

http://www.ddtdigest.com/updates/1999094m.htm

Ever since I first saw this moment, I have been referring to it as possibly the most completely meaningless wrestling moment I can think of in WCW history. As you can sort of tell from the above recap, at some point during this show, there was a funeral held for Lex Luger. Toward the end of the show, Lex Luger came out, with dramatic spot-lighting and an elegant robe, and started to do muscle poses in the center of the ring while the announcers explained that he was "becoming the Total Package before our very eyes," or something very close to that.

It was probably years afterward before I started laughing out loud every time I thought of it. There is a very good chance that it was not quite as hilarious as I recall, but I would give anything to see that dramatic pose-down again.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW


If I remember correctly, this is the show where Bret Hart said Hogan was the Elvis of Wrestling while he was the Robert DeNiro of Wrestling.

CVagts
Oct 19, 2009


Quarex posted:

At the urging of my dear friend NAME OF FRIEND, I have opted to enter this thread to post my favorite WCW what-in-the-world-is-happening moment of all.

Lex Luger ... is becoming ... ... the Total Package.

http://www.ddtdigest.com/updates/1999094m.htm

Ever since I first saw this moment, I have been referring to it as possibly the most completely meaningless wrestling moment I can think of in WCW history. As you can sort of tell from the above recap, at some point during this show, there was a funeral held for Lex Luger. Toward the end of the show, Lex Luger came out, with dramatic spot-lighting and an elegant robe, and started to do muscle poses in the center of the ring while the announcers explained that he was "becoming the Total Package before our very eyes," or something very close to that.

It was probably years afterward before I started laughing out loud every time I thought of it. There is a very good chance that it was not quite as hilarious as I recall, but I would give anything to see that dramatic pose-down again.

Oh my god this may have been the most hilarious thing to happen in WCW, and that's saying something.

The best part is that he was still the same loving Lex Luger afterward.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW


CVagts posted:

Oh my god this may have been the most hilarious thing to happen in WCW, and that's saying something.

The best part is that he was still the same loving Lex Luger afterward.

NO NO NO HE WASN'T.

He started wearing clothing with this weird fist logo.

TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!



Quarex posted:

At the urging of my dear friend NAME OF FRIEND, I have opted to enter this thread to post my favorite WCW what-in-the-world-is-happening moment of all.

Lex Luger ... is becoming ... ... the Total Package.

http://www.ddtdigest.com/updates/1999094m.htm

Ever since I first saw this moment, I have been referring to it as possibly the most completely meaningless wrestling moment I can think of in WCW history. As you can sort of tell from the above recap, at some point during this show, there was a funeral held for Lex Luger. Toward the end of the show, Lex Luger came out, with dramatic spot-lighting and an elegant robe, and started to do muscle poses in the center of the ring while the announcers explained that he was "becoming the Total Package before our very eyes," or something very close to that.

It was probably years afterward before I started laughing out loud every time I thought of it. There is a very good chance that it was not quite as hilarious as I recall, but I would give anything to see that dramatic pose-down again.

Holy poo poo, I would kill my cats to see video of this.

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!



CVagts posted:

Oh my god this may have been the most hilarious thing to happen in WCW, and that's saying something.

The story behind this angle is quite amusing. This was during the peroid between Eric Bischoff being shitcanned and Vince Russo being hired. During this time the poor guys who were writing the show were being forced to maintain the status quo by the top brass. Everyone knew there would be a new appointment being made as a long term head writer/booker but at this point no one knew Russo was in the frame. There was a booking meeting where the writers were told that they had to maintain the status quo, BUT they also had to deliver surprises.

This angle was their response. A surprise that changed nothing.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA


The low point of the WCW Heavyweight Title, and its worst champion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHsa3tOVlIA

It isn't who you'd think!

Just think, he'll be back on TNA TV soon to feud with Eric Bischoff.

WSAENOTSOCK
Apr 13, 2002


MassRayPer posted:

It isn't who you'd think!
It was who I thought. Yes. Worse than an actor who at least enjoys wrestling, starred in your movie, is a huge fan of your company, and donated all of his money to wrestlers' widows.

Nut Bunnies
May 24, 2005



Fun Shoe

That reminds me. Ready To Rumble. WCW made a movie for wrestling fans in which the main characters (wrestling fans) are retarded sewage workers.

Rousimar Pauladeen
Feb 27, 2007

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Captain Charisma posted:

That reminds me. Ready To Rumble. WCW made a movie for wrestling fans in which the main characters (wrestling fans) are retarded sewage workers.

Who stick their fingers up their rear end and smell it.

THIS WAS A MAJOR PLOT POINT!

Rousimar Pauladeen fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Jan 16, 2010

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

Timby posted:

Holy poo poo, I would kill my cats to see video of this.

I recently got a whole bunch of old Nitros, I'll see if I can find this.

Edit: Found the Nitro, will cut out the stuff later.

Raeg fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Jan 16, 2010

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

Please everyone, enjoy the death of Lex Lugar. I noticed an other nice little piece of WCW before the Lex Lugar segment, so I left that in too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlJ15JYQ5gA

Suben
Jul 1, 2007

In 1985 Dr. Strange makes a rap album.


Captain Charisma posted:

That reminds me. Ready To Rumble. WCW made a movie for wrestling fans in which the main characters (wrestling fans) are retarded sewage workers.

Sal Bandini, wanna wrestle?

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007





Grimey Drawer

Raeg posted:

Please everyone, enjoy the death of Lex Lugar. I noticed an other nice little piece of WCW before the Lex Lugar segment, so I left that in too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlJ15JYQ5gA

Speaking of that first little piece, are there any other vignettes from that set around? I've seen the "debut" but never any of the promos that caused such controversy.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!



Raeg posted:

Please everyone, enjoy the death of Lex Lugar. I noticed an other nice little piece of WCW before the Lex Lugar segment, so I left that in too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlJ15JYQ5gA

loving

Even Elizabeth is looking like, "What in the loving hell am I doing here?"

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

If there's any other clips people are looking for, I've got what appears to be all the Nitros from '95-'99 and 2001.

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007





Grimey Drawer

Raeg posted:

If there's any other clips people are looking for, I've got what appears to be all the Nitros from '95-'99 and 2001.

Holy poo poo, loving GOLDMINE.

I'm lookimg for any of the Seven promos that led to the controversy/destructino of the gimmick. There's a piece of one right at the beginning of the Luger video.

PlasticSpoon
Apr 2, 2004


Raeg posted:

If there's any other clips people are looking for, I've got what appears to be all the Nitros from '95-'99 and 2001.

We're not worthy!

No but seriously, how many VHS tapes is that? Also if you can rip the Norman Smiley VS Jimmy Hart hardcore match from WCW Monday Nitro - November 15th, 1999, that would be splendid. ( http://www.ddtdigest.com/updates/1999112m.htm )

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA


Raeg posted:

Please everyone, enjoy the death of Lex Lugar. I noticed an other nice little piece of WCW before the Lex Lugar segment, so I left that in too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlJ15JYQ5gA

You are my supreme champion hero of all of the universe's universes.

I never thought I would get to see this again.

The best part is, I was clearly watching RAW during the initial Lex Luger funeral, as this is completely new to me. Awesome.

Strawberry Panda
Nov 4, 2007

Breakfast Defecting, Slow Dick Touching, Root Beer Barreling SwagVP


The best part is the end of the video where Sting just runs into Hogan's dressing room and knocks his knee with the nightstick and runs away.

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

Strawberry Panda posted:

The best part is the end of the video where Sting just runs into Hogan's dressing room and knocks his knee with the nightstick and runs away.

Yeah, I decided to leave that in because I liked Sting rushing in then nonchalantly walking away.

I'll try and get that Hart match up tomorrow and see if I can find the dates of enough Seven segments to make up a video package.

Raeg fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Jan 16, 2010

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!



Raeg posted:

If there's any other clips people are looking for, I've got what appears to be all the Nitros from '95-'99 and 2001.

It may be a ton of effort on your part, but I would love to see a compliation of all the Black hummer appearances.

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Oct 30, 2009

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Raeg posted:

Please everyone, enjoy the death of Lex Lugar. I noticed an other nice little piece of WCW before the Lex Lugar segment, so I left that in too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlJ15JYQ5gA

Man, I was watching some older WWF videos yesterday and Heenan was on a bunch of them with a few different partners. Comparing the Brain of old to the Heenan commentating on that clip is like night and day. I know he disliked it there but to hear the difference is just so sad. Poor Bobby.

Also: LUGAR!!!

Von Linus
Apr 6, 2006
I complete me.

I'd love to see the first Scott Hall invasion episode of Nitro. I've seen the clip of him arriving, but I'd like to see what the whole show looked like

gently caress it, I'd like to see all the nitros, I've never really seen one.

CVagts
Oct 19, 2009


Von Linus posted:

I'd love to see the first Scott Hall invasion episode of Nitro. I've seen the clip of him arriving, but I'd like to see what the whole show looked like

gently caress it, I'd like to see all the nitros, I've never really seen one.

The show blew aside from Hall's appearance. You aren't missing much.

Mourning Due
Oct 11, 2004

*~ missin u ~*


SamuraiFoochs posted:

Speaking of that first little piece, are there any other vignettes from that set around? I've seen the "debut" but never any of the promos that caused such controversy.

Who is the promo for? Is it The Demon?

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!



Mourning Due posted:

Who is the promo for? Is it The Demon?

Seven. WCW's attempt at Golddust 2.0.

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CVagts
Oct 19, 2009


Skinty McEdger posted:

Seven. WCW's attempt at Golddust 2.0.

And then the first time he made an appearance, he slammed the gimmick and bitched out the writers for making him a joke.

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