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awesomeolion
Nov 5, 2007

"Hi, I'm awesomeolion."

I love how wikipedia articles about plants and animals are completely incomprehensible

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FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

awesomeolion posted:

I love how wikipedia articles about plants and animals are completely incomprehensible
this but any article about mathematics

also, how will never love you back

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART
linguistics too

Scarodactyl
Oct 22, 2015


Just love love love having an incomprehensible mess mandated for all pronunciation guides.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

FMguru posted:

this but any article about mathematics

i complained about this once in a thread here, saying that all the super complicated math articles should at least have a layman's explanation near the beginning.
some math pricks replied that that would be pointless because articles about advanced math concepts are only meant for people who have the grounding to understand them, and the simplified explanation would either be wrong or redundant.

i said that writing impenetrable articles only for experts defeats the purpose of an encyclopedia, but they had terminal engineer brain.

ColTim
Oct 29, 2011
"The Sacred Cod was wrapped in an American flag, placed on a bier, and‍—‌escorted by the Sergeant-at-Arms‍—‌borne by House messengers to the new House chamber, where the assembled Representatives rose in applause.[C]: 7"

- "Sacred Cod", Wikipedia

filthy regex
Oct 1, 2010

s/ (. Y .) / 8==D~~ /g

ColTim posted:

"The Sacred Cod was wrapped in an American flag, placed on a bier, and‍—‌escorted by the Sergeant-at-Arms‍—‌borne by House messengers to the new House chamber, where the assembled Representatives rose in applause.[C]: 7"

- "Sacred Cod", Wikipedia

COD: Modern Legislature

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

awesomeolion posted:

I love how wikipedia articles about plants and animals are completely incomprehensible

mlyp!

Teleposter
Sep 27, 2021

"He loves a visit from the ape."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unusual_place_names
Lots of winners here.

"Csesznek A village in Hungary. Translates roughly as "they are loving" in Hungarian. The Czech and Slovak name for it is "Cesnek" which means "garlic". It's vampire-proof!!!"

"Corona Wonder how well quarantine has served this California city? Hope the whole city doesn't get infected. Also in Alabama, Missouri, New Mexico, New York, South Dakota, and Tennessee."

"Noisy-le-Grand A very loud and obnoxious place in France."

"Mora A place in Sweden that means "mother". This place must get all kinds of "your mom" jokes."

"Shafter A city in California where you can always give her the shaft! Well, the horny school boys may like it here at least."

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
Toad Suck
Booger Hollow
Bald Knob
Snowball

arkansas is _packed_ with that poo poo

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Teleposter posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unusual_place_names
Lots of winners here.

"Csesznek A village in Hungary. Translates roughly as "they are loving" in Hungarian. The Czech and Slovak name for it is "Cesnek" which means "garlic". It's vampire-proof!!!"

"Corona Wonder how well quarantine has served this California city? Hope the whole city doesn't get infected. Also in Alabama, Missouri, New Mexico, New York, South Dakota, and Tennessee."

"Noisy-le-Grand A very loud and obnoxious place in France."

"Mora A place in Sweden that means "mother". This place must get all kinds of "your mom" jokes."

"Shafter A city in California where you can always give her the shaft! Well, the horny school boys may like it here at least."

look out! here comes dragonflysixtyseven to erase every single trace of humor in those comments

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



its in the wikipedia namespace where they put all the meta/troper stuff, so the jokes are probably fine

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Sagebrush posted:

i complained about this once in a thread here, saying that all the super complicated math articles should at least have a layman's explanation near the beginning.
some math pricks replied that that would be pointless because articles about advanced math concepts are only meant for people who have the grounding to understand them, and the simplified explanation would either be wrong or redundant.

i said that writing impenetrable articles only for experts defeats the purpose of an encyclopedia, but they had terminal engineer brain.

ya the articles you're talking about go in simple english wikipedia

Tweezer Reprise
Aug 6, 2013

It hasn't got six strings, but it's a lot of fun.
No one wants to be the skunk at the garden party. But Wikipedia is no longer the fledgling experiment it was back in the 2000s. It's now the world's foremost repository of humanity's collective knowledge, and with that privilege comes some custodial responsibilities. The benefits of humor in helping boost editor retention must be weighed against its potential for disruption. Consider:

Humor is sometimes misinterpreted – sarcasm is hard to convey in writing that lacks the cues of verbal communication. Many editor and administrator hours have been spent resolving disputes arising from this.
Irresponsible humor damages Wikipedia's credibility – we've all worked hard to cultivate the reputation for trustworthiness Wikipedia enjoys. Readers come here expecting information, and when they find jokes instead, they lose faith in our reliability.
Not everyone is looking for humor – Sometimes, an editor is engaged in a serious task and just wants to focus on it. Clear disclosure gives them the option to do so, whereas undisclosed jokes often draw attention and take time to figure out.

Think of the disclosure requirement not as an obstacle, but as a challenge. Humor can still be funny even when it's disclosed — try reading WP:Sarcasm is really helpful with a straight face — it just needs to be, well, good.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

carry on then posted:

ya the articles you're talking about go in simple english wikipedia

this is the internet. there isn't a page budget or layout restriction here. there should be a collapsible layman's explanation for every overly-technical article (it could even start collapsed to avoid offending the sperglords) and the simple english version should be a toggle at the top of every wikipedia page.

ColTim
Oct 29, 2011

Sagebrush posted:

this is the internet. there isn't a page budget or layout restriction here. there should be a collapsible layman's explanation for every overly-technical article (it could even start collapsed to avoid offending the sperglords) and the simple english version should be a toggle at the top of every wikipedia page.

I remember reading somewhere that the Simple English pages (particularly for math things) are not intended to explain things more, but are meant to use simpler words that are easier for someone learning English to understand

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Sagebrush posted:

this is the internet. there isn't a page budget or layout restriction here. there should be a collapsible layman's explanation for every overly-technical article (it could even start collapsed to avoid offending the sperglords) and the simple english version should be a toggle at the top of every wikipedia page.

the "no budget/layout restriction" argument is the same one used in defense of the "x in popular culture" sections

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009



the correct answer is that anything not understandable with a high school education does not belong in a general interest encyclopedia. make a nerd wiki for your nerd poo poo, nerds

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
it’s called wookieepedia

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009



President Beep posted:

it’s called wookieepedia

basically yeah a wookieepedia for the people who dont need to look up how to format equations in latex

Tweezer Reprise
Aug 6, 2013

It hasn't got six strings, but it's a lot of fun.
simply don't read the pages that are too hard for you

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

awesomeolion posted:

I love how wikipedia articles about plants and animals are completely incomprehensible

I don't remember if I've told this story in this thread before, but I once found a Wikipedia page on some rare frog species, and most of the article was just a taxonomy argument: one paragraph of taxonomy, and then a second larger paragraph that started with "the above is total nonsense and the poster is an idiot, because..." I deeply hope it's still there.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Sagebrush posted:

i complained about this once in a thread here, saying that all the super complicated math articles should at least have a layman's explanation near the beginning.
some math pricks replied that that would be pointless because articles about advanced math concepts are only meant for people who have the grounding to understand them, and the simplified explanation would either be wrong or redundant.

i said that writing impenetrable articles only for experts defeats the purpose of an encyclopedia, but they had terminal engineer brain.

i'm pretty sure most of the math articles are wrong, the animal ones usually are

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004

Improbable Lobster posted:

i'm pretty sure most of the math articles are wrong, the animal ones usually are

yeah but they should still have an incorrect laymans explination of the incorrect article

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


Improbable Lobster posted:

i'm pretty sure most of the math articles are wrong, the animal ones usually are

they are as correct as the scots wikipedia is

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


duz posted:

they are as correct as the scots wikipedia is

aha that’s the no correct scots wikipedia fallacy! nice try but i am not falling for this!

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


Simple Wikipedia is where nerds use a list of allowable words go to remind anyone without an advanced degree in whatever the gently caress they're describing that they clearly did not receive enough atomic wedgies in high school, college, and most likely adulthood.

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

do you want :goonsay: original research for every episode of a guy fieri spinoff game show? because i got :goonsay: unsourced show notes for every episode of a guy fieri game show. also the table formatting changes halfway through the page because yolo

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Guy%27s_Grocery_Games_episodes

Part 1 of 5. Sixteen of the best DDD chefs compete in a new Diners, Drive-ins and Dives Tournament; lunch with seven items from the express lane; the Food Wheel determines one high-priced and one low-priced ingredient for surf and turf; regional burgers and fries.

:goonsay:

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
Round 2: Fun Family Meal - (Eggo® Homestyle waffles, something sweet, something over $4, a protein, something spicy, something green, something under $2) - Grocery List

Notes: Round 2 featured a name brand product (Eggo waffles) which denote it as a possible sponsor of the show.

ed

Notes: All the chefs competing were featured on "Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives". Stretch was the first (and currently only) contestant to bring his own shopping cart, complete with horn and flamethrower; he did not get to use it in the competition.

ed

Sham bam bamina! fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Sep 30, 2021

Doom Mathematic
Sep 2, 2008
Explaining these complicated mathematical concepts in straightforward terms is entirely possible, it's just too difficult for the math nerds who own the pages. They push back and make up excuses because what you're asking for is hard and they don't know how to do it.

matti
Mar 31, 2019

i go to the simple english wikipedia when i want to learn about a math

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009



when i want to learn a math i drink beer until the urge passes

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



when i want to learn new math i think "i did a lot of formal logic and was good at calc and stuff this will be cake" and then realize i've lost my math chops, my proof chops, and i don't remember what half the words mean any more so i give up because it's hard and i'm tired

darthbob88
Oct 13, 2011

YOSPOS
I've spent the past week or so writing a round of trivia about US city nicknames, and frankly almost all of them can go in this thread.

For a start,

quote:

Albany – Grass Seed Capital of the World[3][4]
Lebanon – It's Easier From Here[24]
Talent – Our name speaks for itself[45]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_city_nicknames_in_Oregon

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
birmingham, alabama: Nickname(s): "The Magic City", "Pittsburgh of the South"

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Unlike the previous film, there's no smothering and only one death sequence involves her [[Breast fetishism|monstrous breasts]].

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Carthag Tuek posted:

Unlike the previous film, there's no smothering and only one death sequence involves her [[Breast fetishism|monstrous breasts]].

It's a bad sign when I can identify what article this is despite having never read it.

Malleum
Aug 16, 2014

Am I the one at fault? What about me is wrong?
Buglord

lifetime supply of Pocky
Aug 19, 2003

plant wikipedia is pretty comprehensible. sorry if you can’t follow the blue link edited in on the word deciduous

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lifetime supply of Pocky
Aug 19, 2003

oh wait i went to school for that nerd poo poo. gently caress nevermind

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