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BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

For That you Get the Head...

The Tail...

The Whole Damned Thing

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

This was great, somehow I'd never seen this one before.

:tipshat:

I never got around to appreciating Kirby that much until I got older, tried to draw my own comics and began to recognize what I was really looking at in his art and the techniques he was using. The guy was a story telling machine and the idea that he drew those pages from top left to bottom right without slip sheeting or doing much in the way of thumbnail sketches blew my loving mind.

You can look at an entire book of Jack's without any word balloons at all and know exactly what is happening in the entire story. He made Stan's job infinitely easier. I also really enjoyed looking at his pencils before inks were added. It's just gorgeous to look at.

Any aspiring comic book artist (or even movie story boarder) should really take a close look at what he was doing.

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banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004






Cheesus posted:

Watched Val on Amazon Prime last night.

I don't really understand my fascination with Val Kilmer. Of his movies, Top Secret! and Real Genius, I love and could watch forever. Nothing else he's done I've really cared about, including Top Gun, Willow, The Doors, Batman Forever, anything. His 90s films were only only on the periphery of my awareness and not on any part of my radar in the past twenty years but whenever Ive seen his name in the news, I've always been drawn to read about him.

Kind of a Soliel Moon Frye thing going on with him recording 40 years of his career. Uncanny to have his 26 year old son narrate himself with how his voice sounded in the 80s.

Recommended.

Tombstone is p dope. It has the benefit of being a huge ensemble rather than just a VK movie though.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

For That you Get the Head...

The Tail...

The Whole Damned Thing

banned from Starbucks posted:

Tombstone is p dope. It has the benefit of being a huge ensemble rather than just a VK movie though.

Kilmer is good in Heat even though I don't like that film as much as others. I also thought he made a pretty good Bruce Wayne if not a decent Batman, but nobody besides Keaton and Affleck have ever really nailed both parts of that role; same with Superman since Chris Reeve.

My favorite Kilmer role, movie and performance was in a little independent movie called Wonderland about porn star John Holmes, his insane drug habit and his role in a cocaine fueled triple homicide that is mostly known from the Alfred Molina scene in Boogie Nights and the subject of a few really good documentaries.

Kilmer is fine.

Nohearum
Nov 2, 2013


This might've been posted before but the PBS documentary on Ruby Ridge is very well done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsjUqXWv-zI

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

For That you Get the Head...

The Tail...

The Whole Damned Thing

Nohearum posted:

This might've been posted before but the PBS documentary on Ruby Ridge is very well done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsjUqXWv-zI

^^^That was excellent^^^

Unrelated, but I've seen this one before but had forgotten about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO5LGoeAIfg

It's a bio on John C. Holmes, the inspiration for Boogie Nights, that goes into a lot of detail about the incredible Wonderland murders (which were also told in a Val Kilmer movie of the same name). The reality is way more hosed up than the Alfred Molina scene in the movie. If you like train wrecks and 70's style debauchery, give it a watch

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

Amazon wants twenty bucks to rent Roadrunner? gently caress off, Bezos. To space, if you have to.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002


Jade Ear Joe

Animal-Mother posted:

Amazon wants twenty bucks to rent Roadrunner? gently caress off, Bezos. To space, if you have to.

That's standard pricing for "in theater *and* at home!" releases. Not just Amazon.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

For That you Get the Head...

The Tail...

The Whole Damned Thing

What do you guys make of the recent Sons Of Sam documentary on Netflix?

I remember reading Maury Terry's book, The Ultimate Evil, when I was maybe 13 or so and being intrigued by it. Later on, as I was Subjected to Geraldo Rivera and, Satanic Panic and then, later still, delved into the West Memphis Three case and I decided that this was all bullshit but now I'm wondering. Still not sure I buy it and I wouldn't call Berkowitz credible. All this crap is hard to believe but the doc lays out a compelling argument and I no longer thing that Terry is a hack.

ANyone watched it?

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




BiggerBoat posted:

What do you guys make of the recent Sons Of Sam documentary on Netflix?

I remember reading Maury Terry's book, The Ultimate Evil, when I was maybe 13 or so and being intrigued by it. Later on, as I was Subjected to Geraldo Rivera and, Satanic Panic and then, later still, delved into the West Memphis Three case and I decided that this was all bullshit but now I'm wondering. Still not sure I buy it and I wouldn't call Berkowitz credible. All this crap is hard to believe but the doc lays out a compelling argument and I no longer thing that Terry is a hack.

ANyone watched it?

I couldn't keep watching it because it was so stupid.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

For That you Get the Head...

The Tail...

The Whole Damned Thing

Groovelord Neato posted:

I couldn't keep watching it because it was so stupid.

I was pretty entertained by it but it went off the rails at the end. It was as much about Maury Terry's unhealthy obsession than Son of Sam really. I thought the theory of multiple shooters and the connections to the Carrs was pretty compelling but I don't buy any of the Satanist stuff.

The real turning point for me was the prison interview where the dude just completely led Berkowitz and totally hosed up. I've been looking for the full version of it or a transcript but what I saw was leading and feeding 101.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here

Untold: Crimes and Penalties on Netflix is completely bonkers and more entertaining than anything I've seen in a while.

Brief rundown: mob boss buys minor league hockey team, gives it to 17 year old son to run. He turns it into a combination of Slap Shot and WWE.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

For That you Get the Head...

The Tail...

The Whole Damned Thing

If anybody likes funk music and Parliament Funkadelic, there's a good one hour doc up on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Tear-Roof-Off-Parliament-Funkadelic/dp/B07MCW9CRD

I didn't realize how big of an rear end in a top hat George Clinton is and always forget about Eddie Hazel when I list off great guitar players.

Sally Sprodgkin
May 23, 2007

get money


Waltzing Along posted:

Untold: Crimes and Penalties on Netflix is completely bonkers and more entertaining than anything I've seen in a while.

Brief rundown: mob boss buys minor league hockey team, gives it to 17 year old son to run. He turns it into a combination of Slap Shot and WWE.

This was absolutely loving nuts and I loved every second of it. Thanks for sharing.

cardedagain
Aug 28, 2006



thanks to this thread, i watched the untold hockey episode, the malice at the palace episode, and that p-funk doc all in the last 24 hours.

all good stuff.

i didn't have Amazon video subscription, but a Google search under "videos" bright me to a site called "tubi" that let me watch the p-funk doc with ad interruptions (that can be blocked if you use the Brave Browser)

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Tubi is by a wide margin the best free streaming service

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011






The Woodstock 99 documentary on HBO is literally this:

Plus, holy poo poo, John Scher just blatantly said right out he partially blamed the girls for being raped.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here

I think it is a few years old but Drunk, Stone, Briliant, Dead, the story of National Lampoon showed up in my Prime feed so I watched it. I was not aware just how influential National Lampoon was. It's basically a comedy line of demarcation between the current and the past. It's worth watching if you don't already know all about it.

cardedagain
Aug 28, 2006



Alhazred posted:

Plus, holy poo poo, John Scher just blatantly said right out he partially blamed the girls for being raped.

rape is wrong.

rape also seems to always be a one-sided issue, though.

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012

Easter was an Inside Job


El Gallinero Gros posted:

Tubi is by a wide margin the best free streaming service

ive been using Pluto a lot too. no login, just flip through the channels like the old days

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011






cardedagain posted:

rape is wrong.

rape also seems to always be a one-sided issue, though.

Uh... what?

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



KoRMaK posted:

ive been using Pluto a lot too. no login, just flip through the channels like the old days

Unfortunately, I don't have access to Pluto in Canuckistan

teacup
Dec 20, 2006

Who would win in a fight? Taylor Swift or Daryl Somers?

This thread is long and old.

I’ve been binging some of the crash course history YouTube’s and also listening to the history of rome podcast. I love the serial format of them and was just wondering if there’s any decent history documentaries on p much anything older than the last 100-200 years that delve into a topic or society or civilisation. Preferably ancient history but either way.

I can see a ton of movies on Netflix for example but just who knows what is trash or good.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004



I’ve been going through all the punk and thrash docs on Tubi, there’s some really good ones and some really boring ones. The Descendents doc is super good. The Pennsylvania Hardcore doc is super boring but good for making a list of pa hardcore bands to check out.

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...

teacup posted:

This thread is long and old.

I’ve been binging some of the crash course history YouTube’s and also listening to the history of rome podcast. I love the serial format of them and was just wondering if there’s any decent history documentaries on p much anything older than the last 100-200 years that delve into a topic or society or civilisation. Preferably ancient history but either way.

I can see a ton of movies on Netflix for example but just who knows what is trash or good.

Fall of Civilisations and History Time on YouTube both do a lot of ancient history. Fall is the better produced one but HT has a lot of (to me) odd topics uncovered elsewhere

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

For That you Get the Head...

The Tail...

The Whole Damned Thing

"The Filth and the Fury" is a good punk documentary. Also, "Hated" if you have the stomach for it. I seem to remember watching a CBGB doc but can't recall the title or if I'm confusing it with the film starring Alan Rickman

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

ˇHola SEA!




ruddiger posted:

I’ve been going through all the punk and thrash docs on Tubi, there’s some really good ones and some really boring ones. The Descendents doc is super good. The Pennsylvania Hardcore doc is super boring but good for making a list of pa hardcore bands to check out.

save me the effort?

battlepigeon
Aug 3, 2008



nonathlon posted:

Fall of Civilisations and History Time on YouTube both do a lot of ancient history. Fall is the better produced one but HT has a lot of (to me) odd topics uncovered elsewhere

Seconding this! Fall of Civilisations is great!

The Aztec episode is a good starting point I think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8JVdpWCKeM

Handen
Jun 29, 2003

HNNNNNNNNG.


Is there a dedicated “Get Back” thread somewhere where I can gripe about the lovely blurry digital upscaling job? I’ve seen better upscaling on videos from the 1800s than what Peter Jackson apparently has access to.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here

There should be a thread to gripe about it being on disney where it 100% does not belong.

Pingiivi
Mar 26, 2010

Straight into the iris!


Handen posted:

Is there a dedicated “Get Back” thread somewhere where I can gripe about the lovely blurry digital upscaling job? I’ve seen better upscaling on videos from the 1800s than what Peter Jackson apparently has access to.

I thought they would have gotten better results from that footage than what they did with that WWI doc, which also looked terrible. The motion interpolation looks like poo poo and apparently they have added so much grain removal that everyone looks like puppets. It's really weird to me that old footage can't be just restored, but it has to be recolored/smoothed/interpolated to poo poo.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007


They do discuss during part 2 that they were using 16mm film because they expected to use the footage for a tv special. But as it kind of morphs into using the footage for a movie they lament that they didn’t use 35mm. So I do kind of wonder what they raw untouched footage looks like.

Asnorban
Jun 13, 2003

Professor Gavelsmoke




Pingiivi posted:

I thought they would have gotten better results from that footage than what they did with that WWI doc, which also looked terrible. The motion interpolation looks like poo poo and apparently they have added so much grain removal that everyone looks like puppets. It's really weird to me that old footage can't be just restored, but it has to be recolored/smoothed/interpolated to poo poo.

I was shocked when I finally watched the WW1 doc and saw how terrible it looked. The faces were distracting to the point that I had to turn it off halfway through.

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spanky the dolphin
Sep 3, 2006



The worst part of Get Back for me are the long segments that they only have audio for. They put random footage over and the mouths don’t match and they keep cutting to random people milling around.

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