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WouldDesk
Dec 26, 2009


Itious posted:

I was wondering if anyone could help me find somewhere to watch old National Geographic documentaries. We had cable tv for a brief period in the mid 90's and I remember some really wonderful documentaries, before reality tv had infected everything. I remember an especially good one about Mobutu Sese Seko, but it's hard to find any reference to the old National Geographic documentaries anywhere on the web.

Here is a group of 75 of them on snagfilms. Should keep you entertained for a bit.

http://www.snagfilms.com/films/browse/category/national_geographic

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Tiny Faye
Feb 16, 2005

Are you ready for an ORGAN SOLO?!


Jim Bergerac posted:


Last Train Home

Amazing study of the largest human migration on the planet, the period when all of China's factory workers return home to their families. Do not watch if you have a fear of overcrowded trains.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1512201/

Few people have mentioned this one before and it's now up on Netflix streaming. It's a brilliantly shot doc, but I'm watching it in chunks for about ~20 minutes at a time since woah, my lord, this is some heavy, depressing stuff. But I feel like every other doc I watch about China makes me feel terrible.

El Goatherd
Jun 25, 2005

hate is art


I found the other two episodes of the 2002 BBC series 'The Hunt For Britain's Pedophiles'. Be warned that these episodes feature some heavily censored but still very upsetting images. I haven't watched it yet, but I'm hoping one of the parts is the episode I remember with a particularly obviously mentally-ill bloke who kept saying it was all the kids fault and how the existence of female circumcision makes it alright for him to sexually abuse children or something.

All of these are :nws: and :nms:. You have been warned.

Episode 1, Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rw_glK3CiA
Episode 1, Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LihdzmVECao
Episode 1, Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2wW4OD79D8

Episode 2, Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYr6Ud8mrfc
Episode 2, Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B4XHrhfiWY:
Episode 2, Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4Vn6mZzojI

Episode 3, Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZM_AXVtOIA
Episode 3, Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCsAW6q0L6w

The last part was the one linked earlier in the thread.

Edit : Only halfway through the first episode and already remember why this upset me so much the first time. Listening to that now older girl recounting the abuse she suffered at the hands of her father and his friends just fills me with so much revulsion and sadness.

Edit 2 : Having now watched it I'd add an extra warning that parts of the other two episodes are even worse, so you might want to skip this.

El Goatherd fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Jan 1, 2012

Zackarotto
Dec 25, 2005

Ha! Ha! I'll now calculate your brain age.


Can anyone recommend any good documentaries about the history of electrical engineering or electromagnetic theory? It would be great if there's one out there that can teach me how to build a battery and radio from scratch (which I'll need to know if I ever get sent two thousand years back in time).

BeigeJacket
Jul 21, 2005



Just found this great BBC series on the food industry, and the history of mass marketed and produced food, focusing on three of the most successful products in recent times.


Cereals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYkLByB7HQ4

Yogurt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXdk6mG_gbw&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Water

Annoyingly enough, I could only find the first part of this one, but you get the general idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsP6cMRC5LM

BeigeJacket fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Jan 1, 2012

Balancing Monsters
Sep 3, 2011


Zackarotto posted:

It would be great if there's one out there that can teach me how to build a battery and radio from scratch (which I'll need to know if I ever get sent two thousand years back in time).

If this does occur, you can always just pop over to Baghdad for one of these.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008




Zackarotto posted:

Can anyone recommend any good documentaries about the history of electrical engineering or electromagnetic theory? It would be great if there's one out there that can teach me how to build a battery and radio from scratch (which I'll need to know if I ever get sent two thousand years back in time).

You might find a shortage of good stations to listen to, surely :shobon:

Popelmon
Jan 24, 2010

wow
so spin


feedmegin posted:

You might find a shortage of good stations to listen to, surely :shobon:

There were some pretty rad Rock 'n Rock stations around back then!

Radd McCool
Dec 3, 2005

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Popelmon posted:

There were some pretty rad Rock 'n Rock stations around back then!
Have you seen this shirt before?

Tiny Faye posted:

Few people have mentioned this one before and it's now up on Netflix streaming. It's a brilliantly shot doc, but I'm watching it in chunks for about ~20 minutes at a time since woah, my lord, this is some heavy, depressing stuff. But I feel like every other doc I watch about China makes me feel terrible.

[Re: Last Train Home]
I have to support this one as well. I found it to have an excellent ground-level, inside perspective.

Zackarotto
Dec 25, 2005

Ha! Ha! I'll now calculate your brain age.


Balancing Monsters posted:

If this does occur, you can always just pop over to Baghdad for one of these.
2000 years would probably be too far for even those. Still, very fascinating. If true, imagine the alternative history where the Baghdad Battery didn't fade into obscurity.

feedmegin posted:

You might find a shortage of good stations to listen to, surely :shobon:
Ha ha, depending on where you are, that may be enough of a problem without time travel. :(

I was actually thinking about this shirt/print. Going back in time and inventing things is a smart idea that I'd be happy to see more use of, at least in fiction, if not in an imaginative documentary. Could be very educational, especially if you don't skip a lot of steps. Where do you find zinc, if it hasn't been named yet? What the heck does calamine look like? And so on.

Pilli
Jul 3, 2011

Dogs have owners,
cats have staff


El Goatherd posted:

I found the other two episodes of the 2002 BBC series 'The Hunt For Britain's Pedophiles'. Be warned that these episodes feature some heavily censored but still very upsetting images.

The first episode just died out before my bewildered eyes. I'm now hanging in the middle point between feeling horrified and dirty for having watched this or feeling enlightened for having learned all those things I didn't know on the subject. My line of work sometimes brings me to hear victims witness in court, but mostly the accused never give any testimony; it's the first journey I really take on "their side", so to speak. They pose as victims; that's so sick I wonder what amount/duration of therapy would breach a little ray of light into their hosed up heads.

Thanks for sharing. I'll watch the other two but not tonight. The cheesiest comedy available is now in order to restore some sort of balance. :gonk:

GrandMaster
Aug 15, 2004
laidback

Budget Bears posted:

Can anyone recommend me some interesting and not-heartbreaking documentaries about the ocean, ocean life, etc?

BBC Blue Planet and BBC Oceans series.. HD is a must for these. Blue planet is the better of the two, it's narrated by attenborough

Scuttle_SE
Jun 2, 2005
I like mammaries

Pillbug

Brainwash / Hjernevask

In 2010 a television show called "Hjernevask" ("Brainwash") which contrasted cultural determinist models of human behavior (also referred to as the Standard social science model) with nature-nurture interactionist perspectives made some noise in norway. Several of those who were interviewed for the show criticized the show publicly both before and after the airing, and this ignited a wide public discussion on the subject of nature versus nurture debate. Specially the question of gender, and what is referred to as the gender paradox (the fact that although Norwegian women are largely represented within the working stock, more so than most countries, the Norwegian job market remains highly segregated in terms of gender) has provoked controversy.

password is "hjernevask"

1 The Gender Equality Paradox
2 The Parental Effect
3 Gay/straight
4 Violence
5 Sex
6 Race
7 Nature or Nurture

Warning, subtitles!

Scuttle_SE fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Jan 2, 2012

Lunar Park Ranger
Aug 7, 2007
Most Lunar Park Rangers are not funny

My Kid Could Paint That

About a five year old girl who paints pictures that are sold for tens of thousands of dollars. But then there's some question if her dad has done the work for her, which raises the question, does it matter? Is art dependent on the artist? Is it still art if the artist doesn't know what they're doing?

Lake of Fire

Very intimate film about abortion. Very intense, directed by the guy who directed American History X, and it carries that kind of weight. Sure, there's bias here, but it's more of an educational analysis, rather than a persuasion.

Nerdcore Rising

To lighten things up a bit, this is the perfect goon doc. This is about a sub genre of music, nerdcore or nerd rap, and it mainly hilights the godfather of nerdcore, MC Frontalot. Totally nerdy, and a very unimportant film, it's still a lot of fun.

Woodsy Owl
Oct 26, 2004


Sneep posted:

I just watched "Life in a Day" which is on instant on Netflix, or can be viewed here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/lifeinaday

Wow, just wow. Thank you so much for sharing this. It's a truly amazing film, invoking every emotion and pulling the heart-strings.

I lost it in the beginning when the Japanese father and little boy pray to the shrine of their deceased wife and mother.

Small and Blue
Apr 24, 2008


Scuttle_SE posted:

Brainwash / Hjernevask

I've only got to part 3 so far but that is strange as hell :stonk:

cartooncart
Oct 21, 2011


El Goatherd posted:


'The Hunt For Britain's Pedophiles'.

All of these are :nws: and :nms:. You have been warned.


This is by far the most :nms: pedophile documentary. It's worse than the man who looks at the Romanian pedophile sex-tourism / child trafficking. I have not finished the first episode.

Pilli
Jul 3, 2011

Dogs have owners,
cats have staff


Steve Jobs: Billion Dollar Hippy

A look back at Jobs' history with Apple including interviews of employees and ex-employees. That Mr. Voznik sure ain't driven by revenge. Duration: 59:12.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co1CU3-Ms5Q&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

These Loving Eyes
Jun 6, 2009


Are there any good documentaries about music studio work in the 70s? Actually any documentary that goes through the whole recording, mixing and mastering process would be awesome. I've seen a lot of those Classic Albums documents that have been entertaining but I wish they'd dwelve deeper into the actual making of the albums. Also, you can recommend documentaries about music scenes in the 70s (or other eras but preferably not before 70s).

melon cat
Jan 21, 2010



BeigeJacket posted:

Just found this great BBC series on the food industry, and the history of mass marketed and produced food, focusing on three of the most successful products in recent times.


Cereals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYkLByB7HQ4

Yogurt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXdk6mG_gbw&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Water

Annoyingly enough, I could only find the first part of this one, but you get the general idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsP6cMRC5LM
Thanks for posting this. All really interesting docs!

Dingleberry Jones
Jun 1, 2008
If I'm posting a new thread, it means there is a thread already posted and I failed at using the forum search correctly

You're Gonna Miss Me

I haven't seen this posted, but I may have missed it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0791268/

Documentary about Roky Erickson, lead singer of The 13th Floor Elevators, a group some consider pioneers of psychedelic rock.

Just a terribly sad doc. Basically he went from being a rock star in the '60s to the equivalent of a child today. He did too much LSD, had shock therapy, and was diagnosed as schizophrenic.

Unfortunately, his mother was the one who cared for him and she closed him off from any help he needed.

It is on Netflix streaming. Like I said, just a really sad documentary. It actually has some parallels to Brian Wilson, in that they were both rock stars in the 60s (Brian Wilson more than Erickson) who just went completely bonkers. However, whereas Brian Wilson sort of made a recovery, Erickson is pretty pleased when his mom gives him a Mr. Potato Head doll. :(

These Loving Eyes
Jun 6, 2009


peepoogenderparts posted:

You're Gonna Miss Me

I haven't seen this posted, but I may have missed it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0791268/

Documentary about Roky Erickson, lead singer of The 13th Floor Elevators, a group some consider pioneers of psychedelic rock.

Just a terribly sad doc. Basically he went from being a rock star in the '60s to the equivalent of a child today. He did too much LSD, had shock therapy, and was diagnosed as schizophrenic.

Unfortunately, his mother was the one who cared for him and she closed him off from any help he needed.

It is on Netflix streaming. Like I said, just a really sad documentary. It actually has some parallels to Brian Wilson, in that they were both rock stars in the 60s (Brian Wilson more than Erickson) who just went completely bonkers. However, whereas Brian Wilson sort of made a recovery, Erickson is pretty pleased when his mom gives him a Mr. Potato Head doll. :(

Actually he seems to be doing a lot better nowadays if you check his Wikipedia page:

Wikipedia posted:

A documentary film on the life of Roky Erickson titled You're Gonna Miss Me was made by director Keven McAlester and screened at the 2005 SXSW film festival. In September of the same year, Erickson performed his first full-length concert in 20 years at the annual Austin City Limits Music Festival with The Explosives with special guest and long time associate, Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top.

In the December 30, 2005 issue of the Austin Chronicle, an alternative weekly newspaper in Austin, Texas, Margaret Moser chronicled Erickson's recovery, saying Erickson had weaned himself off his medication, played at 11 gigs in Austin that year, obtained a driver's license, bought a car (a Volvo) and voted.

In 2007, Erickson played his first ever gigs in New York City at SOUTHPAW in Brooklyn, NY, as well as California's Coachella Festival and made a debut performance in England to a capacity audience at the Royal Festival Hall, London. Roky continued to play in Europe, performing for the first time in Finland at Ruisrock festival. According to the article in Helsingin Sanomat 8 June 2007, the performance was widely considered the highlight of the festival day.[4]

On 8 September 2008, Scottish post-rock band Mogwai released the Batcat EP. Erickson is featured on one of the tracks, "Devil Rides".[5] Erickson performed alongside Austin-based indie rock band Okkervil River at the Austin Music Awards in 2008 and then again at the 2009 South by Southwest music festival.[6]

Roky Erickson returned to the stage in 2008 to perform songs from the 13th Floor Elevators catalog that had not been performed in decades with fellow Austinites The Black Angels as his backing band. After months of practices and time recording in an Austin studio, they performed a show in Dallas followed by a West Coast tour. The Black Angels played a regular set then backed Roky as his rhythm section playing 13th Floor Elevators songs and classics from Roky's solo albums.

On April 20, 2010, Erickson released True Love Cast Out All Evil, his first album of new material in 14 years. Okkervil River serves as Erickson's backing band on the album.[7]

cloudchamber
Aug 6, 2010

You know what the Ukraine is? It's a sitting duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak. It's feeble. I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine

Scuttle_SE posted:

Brainwash / Hjernevask

In 2010 a television show called "Hjernevask" ("Brainwash") which contrasted cultural determinist models of human behavior (also referred to as the Standard social science model) with nature-nurture interactionist perspectives made some noise in norway. Several of those who were interviewed for the show criticized the show publicly both before and after the airing, and this ignited a wide public discussion on the subject of nature versus nurture debate. Specially the question of gender, and what is referred to as the gender paradox (the fact that although Norwegian women are largely represented within the working stock, more so than most countries, the Norwegian job market remains highly segregated in terms of gender) has provoked controversy.

Warning, subtitles!

Is the obnoxiously large boom mic the presenter carries around supposed to be a joke?

Dingleberry Jones
Jun 1, 2008
If I'm posting a new thread, it means there is a thread already posted and I failed at using the forum search correctly

These Loving Eyes posted:

Actually he seems to be doing a lot better nowadays if you check his Wikipedia page:

Hey, that's alright. Glad to see he's doing better. He was just so child-like in the documentary.

WouldDesk
Dec 26, 2009


El Goatherd posted:

I found the other two episodes of the 2002 BBC series 'The Hunt For Britain's Pedophiles'.

Episode 1, Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rw_glK3CiA
Episode 1, Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LihdzmVECao
Episode 1, Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2wW4OD79D8

Episode 2, Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYr6Ud8mrfc
Episode 2, Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B4XHrhfiWY:
Episode 2, Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4Vn6mZzojI

Episode 3, Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZM_AXVtOIA
Episode 3, Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCsAW6q0L6w

The last part was the one linked earlier in the thread.



I watched all three episodes last night and have not slept. Not saying that is the only reason but the only other time recently I have not slept a minute of the night was in Vegas. This is horrific poo poo. My ex-fiancee/gf was a victim, this ruins childrens life's forever, not just when the act it committed. And if not treated it just continues the cycle of abuse in one way or another.

These people working the pedophile unit, and the film crew put up with stuff I would not dare want to handle. And any documentary that leads almost all the crew to get counseling during/after is just mind boggling. Glad it was offered to them. That third episode was just unreal to me. It is a foreign way of thought that most are not capable of even capable of, and this man just sat in a chair and smiled with his shirt off for an interview about raping boys. Ended well for him.

This show seemed to have helped catch many of the distributors of the material, so I am glad it had a positive impact for the most part.

Onion Vanguard
Jun 11, 2010

Breathe in. Breathe out.

El Goatherd posted:

I found the other two episodes of the 2002 BBC series 'The Hunt For Britain's Pedophiles'. Be warned that these episodes feature some heavily censored but still very upsetting images. I haven't watched it yet, but I'm hoping one of the parts is the episode I remember with a particularly obviously mentally-ill bloke who kept saying it was all the kids fault and how the existence of female circumcision makes it alright for him to sexually abuse children or something.

All of these are :nws: and :nms:. You have been warned.

Episode 1, Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rw_glK3CiA
Episode 1, Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LihdzmVECao
Episode 1, Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2wW4OD79D8

Episode 2, Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYr6Ud8mrfc
Episode 2, Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B4XHrhfiWY:
Episode 2, Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4Vn6mZzojI

Episode 3, Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZM_AXVtOIA
Episode 3, Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCsAW6q0L6w

The last part was the one linked earlier in the thread.

Edit : Only halfway through the first episode and already remember why this upset me so much the first time. Listening to that now older girl recounting the abuse she suffered at the hands of her father and his friends just fills me with so much revulsion and sadness.

Edit 2 : Having now watched it I'd add an extra warning that parts of the other two episodes are even worse, so you might want to skip this.

Yeah, I'm on part 1 of episode 1 and I'm already feeling sick with those censored pictures. I really don't want this to get worse because I think I'll actually start throwing up.

WouldDesk
Dec 26, 2009


Onion Vanguard posted:

Yeah, I'm on part 1 of episode 1 and I'm already feeling sick with those censored pictures. I really don't want this to get worse because I think I'll actually start throwing up.

The photos are what they are, they do not really get worse in that sense. But the sheer volume of it found in these houses is insane. But you really get engaged when the bastards start getting tossed in the pokey. It is a good watch, but it will get tougher.

Onion Vanguard
Jun 11, 2010

Breathe in. Breathe out.

WouldDesk posted:

The photos are what they are, they do not really get worse in that sense. But the sheer volume of it found in these houses is insane. But you really get engaged when the bastards start getting tossed in the pokey. It is a good watch, but it will get tougher.

Yeah, I think tougher would have been a better word. I mean for gently caress sake 100,000 indecent images of children? What in the almighty gently caress.

EDIT: nope. gently caress that poo poo. SLAMMING A 6 YEAR OLD. Why did they show that video man. For real. Yeah its 'censored' but you can clearly see the child's father raping her.

For gently caress sake.

Onion Vanguard fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Jan 4, 2012

Mincher
May 12, 2008


Is there a part 3 to episode 3 or does it cut just before the credits? Definitely a tough doc to watch.

WouldDesk
Dec 26, 2009


Onion Vanguard posted:

Yeah, I think tougher would have been a better word. I mean for gently caress sake 100,000 indecent images of children? What in the almighty gently caress.

EDIT: nope. gently caress that poo poo. SLAMMING A 6 YEAR OLD. Why did they show that video man. For real. Yeah its 'censored' but you can clearly see the child's father raping her.

For gently caress sake.

That is the worst part. Forgot about that... but, later a woman in her mid 20's tells the whole story on what her uncle did and my mind fried trying to process it


I think the third episode is just 2 parts.

WouldDesk fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Jan 4, 2012

That Damn Satyr
Nov 4, 2008

A connoisseur of fine junk


BeigeJacket posted:

Just found this great BBC series on the food industry, and the history of mass marketed and produced food, focusing on three of the most successful products in recent times.


Cereals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYkLByB7HQ4

Yogurt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXdk6mG_gbw&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Water

Annoyingly enough, I could only find the first part of this one, but you get the general idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsP6cMRC5LM

Here are the last two parts to the water one. =)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ7hwrcohmg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHg0qhkS6Ng&feature=related

54 40 or fuck
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed

El Goatherd posted:

I found the other two episodes of the 2002 BBC series 'The Hunt For Britain's Pedophiles'. Be warned that these episodes feature some heavily censored but still very upsetting images. I haven't watched it yet, but I'm hoping one of the parts is the episode I remember with a particularly obviously mentally-ill bloke who kept saying it was all the kids fault and how the existence of female circumcision makes it alright for him to sexually abuse children or something.


Can't/won't watch this. I think of what I'd do if I knew something who violated a child like that.
The horrible, horrible things I would do to that person.
In a way, documentaries like this are great because so often we just turn a blind eye to child abuse. We know it happens but just...can't really comprehend the true gravity of such a situation.
I don't think my heart can take it.

WouldDesk
Dec 26, 2009


Toriori posted:

Can't/won't watch this. I think of what I'd do if I knew something who violated a child like that.
The horrible, horrible things I would do to that person.
In a way, documentaries like this are great because so often we just turn a blind eye to child abuse. We know it happens but just...can't really comprehend the true gravity of such a situation.
I don't think my heart can take it.

If you want to skip the photos and videos, albeit censored, just watch episode 3.

El Goatherd
Jun 25, 2005

hate is art


Toriori posted:

Can't/won't watch this. I think of what I'd do if I knew something who violated a child like that.
The horrible, horrible things I would do to that person.

My head says I should be reasoned and liberal and say that people like that should be treated as being mentally ill, shut in prison or if possible rehabilitated, but I can't watch that documentary without feeling all they really need is a bullet in the head.

Woodsy Owl
Oct 26, 2004


Oh my god, one youtube commentor god it completely right: 'This makes "To Catch A Predator" look like Sesame Street.'

It's a little excessive.

mrfart
May 26, 2004

Dear diary, today I
became a captain.


It's already pretty old. But "white king, red rubber, black death" is still a fascinating and shocking documentary about 'the horror' in the congo.
I thought about it after reading "king leopold's ghost" again.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4748355130635434378&hl=sv

TheHoodedClaw
Jul 26, 2008



Nuclear Tourist posted:

I was wondering if anyone here could help me locate a documentary I saw a few years ago. I don't remember any names, but it was about a gigantic ore transporter that capsized and sank with all hands lost somewhere in southeast Asia (I think) during extremely foul weather. The documentary followed investigators trying to find out why exactly it sank, and there was also interviews with next of kin who I think mostly came from some small village in England. I think they finally concluded that the sinking had something to do with an access hole having been torn open in the storm which had allowed swell to gradually fill up the interior of the ship until it got so heavy it sank.

If anyone could help me track down this documentary then that would be awesome, because it was really good and I've been wanting to see it again.


This is from a while back, but the ship concerned is almost certainly the MV Derbyshire, the largest British-flagged ship ever lost at sea. Hope this helps.

54 40 or fuck
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed

El Goatherd posted:

My head says I should be reasoned and liberal and say that people like that should be treated as being mentally ill, shut in prison or if possible rehabilitated, but I can't watch that documentary without feeling all they really need is a bullet in the head.

I have the same problem. Having young children in my family, my first instinct it "I would rip that person to shreds with my bare hands!" But when I dwell on it I realize there's the chance that someone who's a pedophile may have been sexually abused themselves. It's very sad and emotionally exhausting to think about. Can you truly rehabilitate those kinds of people? Are some people really mentally ill or just twisted?

Also, here's a good documentary thanks to the Fifth Estate.
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2011-2012/storiesfromtheriversedge/

quote:

For aboriginal kids from reserves in northern Ontario, a high school diploma is a ticket to a better future. But a shocking number of these students have ended up dead before graduation.

the fifth estate's Gillian Findlay presents an extremely up-close and personal look inside the native secondary education program in Thunder Bay, Ont., where seven students have tragically died in the past ten years. Five of the victims died apparent alcohol related deaths -- their bodies were pulled from local rivers amid swirling suspicions and rumours about what pushed them over the edge. Another two teens suffered troubling and unexpected deaths that have left lingering questions.

Filmed by a local crew with close connections to the community, with unprecedented access, the fifth estate takes viewers inside the school halls, the homes where the kids are billeted, the mall where they hang out, and onto the dark streets where their dedicated teachers and mentors run nightly patrols in a desperate bid to try and get them all home safe.

Thunder Bay has a population around 120,000, now imagine being 13 years old from a reserve with 2000 people in it and being placed in a boarding home in such a "big" city. That would be like taking a 13 year old from Thunder Bay and sticking them in the downtown core of Toronto. This is a very eye opening documentary and if you're into sociology I definitely recommend it.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



I live in Thunder Bay, and things have come to a head on the issue: It's making headlines, and they're trying to find better housing solutions for the kids who come from fly in communities. People who come from fly in communities get blamed for drat near all the crime around here. Mac's (a popular canadian convenince store franchise) was robbed something like 30 times in 2011. It got worse after they opened a 24 hr. store 2 blocks away from the location that got robbed the most.

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jan 4, 2012

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Jan 4, 2012

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El Gallinero Gros posted:

I live in Thunder Bay, and things have come to a head on the issue: It's making headlines, and they're trying to find better housing solutions for the kids who come from fly in communities. People who come from fly in communities get blamed for drat near al the crime around here. Macs (a popular canadian convenince store franchise) was robbed something like 30 times in 2011. It got worse after they opened a 24 hr. store 2 blocks away from the location that got robbed the most.

I got in an argument with a friends mother about kids from fly in reserves who go to boarding homes, and how I had talked with a teacher who knew a student whose boarding parents put a padlock on their fridge when they weren't home so the kid and his friends wouldn't eat all the food. Her (the friends mom) response was that she had a friend who was a foster parent and when she'd have emergency foster kids in the house they would just go to town, devouring everything in sight so they had to lock the food up.
Really? I mean in terms of money I can see why it makes sense but don't bother being an emergency foster parent or a boarding parent then be surprised when the kid in your house is ravenous because they probably don't even know what it's like to have a fridge full of food.

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