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exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."




Ropes4u posted:

Are there any similar documentaries on the whacko left?

There's Friends of Kim, a short documentary concerning the life and times of a Western Kim Jong-Il fan club.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C76HqPaA6kw

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Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011




Anyone got any suggestions for documentaries on interwar (between World Wars 1 and 2) history? I just got back to seeing Channel 4's documentary on World War I again (Which can be found on youtube, and which I find very interesting because it manages to take alot of the focus away from the Western front and underscore that it was a truly global war) and I kind of want to see something on what happened after that. Most of what I can find are about Hitler's rise to power and stuff like that, seen it done it. If there's anything good out there on other topics I'd be interested in it, like:

Russian Wivil War (anything good specifically on the Russian Revolution or early Soviet Union could be cool too)
Greco-Turkish War and Ataturk's rebuidling of Turkey
The Great Depression
The German Revolution of 1918-1919 (this is about the only thing about interwar Germany I'd like more about)
Whatever the gently caress happened in Japan
same with China
Italy and Mussolini and that stuff
Spanish Civil War
Middle East stuff

You get the picture. There has to be something

Randarkman fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Oct 23, 2013

nocal
Mar 7, 2007


Ropes4u posted:

Are there any similar documentaries on the whacko left?

This is probably perfect for someone like you, given that it includes Bill Ayers: The Weather Undergound.

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

not all who wander are lost


I watched Chasing Ice on Netflix last night and it was pretty good. Wonderfully shot and there's a sequence at the end which is kind of mind boggling. I don't know if I want to spoil it, it's not that big of a surprise but if you want to watch nature being awesomely terrifying at a pretty insane scale and how hosed we'll all be in about a hundred years at this rate, I recommend it.

Ropes4u
May 2, 2009



Thank you for the help, I will check them out

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Here is a really good hour long six part BBC documentary about the Spanish Civil War..

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012




exquisite tea posted:

There's Friends of Kim, a short documentary concerning the life and times of a Western Kim Jong-Il fan club.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C76HqPaA6kw

I thought this one was great, especially when the group leader turns dictator after the believers realize how hosed up North Korea is and want to leave, so he breaks into their hotel rooms and takes their cameras/ evidence.

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 2098 days!


Professor Shark posted:

I thought this one was great, especially when the group leader turns dictator after the believers realize how hosed up North Korea is and want to leave, so he breaks into their hotel rooms and takes their cameras/ evidence.
That bit made me really mad. This guy is supposed to take care of you and then he steals your poo poo and rebukes you. loving rear end in a top hat. I want to take a train to Barcelona just to kick him in the nuts.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006



Wow. I just finished watching CNN's "Blackfish" documentary about Sea World's killer whale shows. Pretty powerful stuff. It has one more airing tomorrow night, it's really well done and everyone should watch it. Hopefully CNN will make it available to stream on their site afterwards.

Basically the film goes over how the industry is much more dangerous to trainers than the theme park companies would have anyone believe and how numerous incidents have been whitewashed over decades, with a few really notable ones getting a fair amount of publicity. One particular incident resulting in the death of a well regarded trainer serves as a kind of framework for the film but there are lengthy interviews with several former trainers (including one who presents the industry line).

It could be the point of view of an activist with an axe to grind, but the fact that multiple former trainers from the organization seem to indicate they didn't receive any knowledge of numerous incidents that happened prior to their hiring, much less get a chance to review the existing footage of those incidents to learn from them and try to improve their own safety, seems pretty damning against Sea World.

There is a significant amount of video footage of specific incidents that the filmmaker got hold of.

One thing that struck me watching this is that one of the key things that makes a documentary strong (aside from having really good footage of events) is the choice of interview subjects. If you have a number of interview subjects who are knowledgeable about the subject and emotionally invested in it, and are articulate, you have the raw material for excellent interviews and a strong backbone for a film.

This also struck me watching a film on Netflix this week, "We Were Here" about the AIDS epidemic in San Francisco during the 80's, from the point of view of several different people who were affected in various ways, from being infected themselves, nurses or volunteers caring for patients, and people who just lived in the Castro community and their take on events. Every person interviewed fit all the criteria I mentioned above and the film is just really strong.

Zwabu fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Oct 27, 2013

Ropes4u
May 2, 2009



I'm sure it been mentioned before but the vanishing of the bees is a fantastic was to spend and hour and a half. I'm all aboard the crazy train that believes Unintended consequences will kill us all.

Vanishing of the Bees :
This documentary takes a piercing investigative look at the economic, political and ecological implications of the worldwide disappearance of the honeybee. The film examines our current agricultural landscape and celebrates the ancient and sacred connection between man and the honeybee. The story highlights the positive changes that have resulted due to the tragic phenomenon known as "Colony Collapse Disorder." To empower the audience, the documentary provides viewers with tangible solutions they can apply to their everyday lives. Vanishing of the Bees unfolds as a dramatic tale of science and mystery, illuminating this extraordinary crisis and its greater meaning about the relationship between humankind and Mother Earth. The bees have a message - but will we listen?

AGirlWonder
Oct 24, 2010


Zwabu posted:


This also struck me watching a film on Netflix this week, "We Were Here" about the AIDS epidemic in San Francisco during the 80's, from the point of view of several different people who were affected in various ways, from being infected themselves, nurses or volunteers caring for patients, and people who just lived in the Castro community and their take on events. Every person interviewed fit all the criteria I mentioned above and the film is just really strong.

I couldn't finish it. Speaking of, I'm nearly finished with How to Survive a Plague. I'm a little frustrated with ACT UP for their protest during the church service, but their tactics got results. I started Saint of 9/11 but didn't get very far.

TRAMAMPOLINE
Dec 15, 2012



Ropes4u posted:

I'm sure it been mentioned before but the vanishing of the bees is a fantastic was to spend and hour and a half. I'm all aboard the crazy train that believes Unintended consequences will kill us all.

Vanishing of the Bees :
This documentary takes a piercing investigative look at the economic, political and ecological implications of the worldwide disappearance of the honeybee. The film examines our current agricultural landscape and celebrates the ancient and sacred connection between man and the honeybee. The story highlights the positive changes that have resulted due to the tragic phenomenon known as "Colony Collapse Disorder." To empower the audience, the documentary provides viewers with tangible solutions they can apply to their everyday lives. Vanishing of the Bees unfolds as a dramatic tale of science and mystery, illuminating this extraordinary crisis and its greater meaning about the relationship between humankind and Mother Earth. The bees have a message - but will we listen?

I killed a bee this summer


Just watched Outlawed in Pakistan on the PBS Frontline site. Pretty amazing documentary about a girl who says she was gang raped in Pakistan, and the police, rather than investigate, tell her father and brother to kill her because to make such an accusation she must be an outlaw. She was 13 at the time. The family seeks justice through the courts, and Frontline follows the story for some time, interviewing basically all the people involved.

Hunting the Nightmare Bacteria is another good Frontline one, their most recent right now. It's about killer bacteria that are resistant to all antibiotics and becoming more common. Some CDC person called it a nightmare bug.

TRAMAMPOLINE fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Nov 12, 2013

Two Worlds
Feb 3, 2009



I watch a lot of documentaries about film and film history. I really enjoyed The Story of Film: An Odyssey last year, and I'm catching it again on Turner Classic Movies. I also just saw Free Radicals, a fairly intimate doc about the history of experimental film. I've seen a bunch of stuff about specific studios, directors, actors, stuff like Visions of Light, The Cutting Edge, Cameraman, etc. I'm looking for more movies about movies, especially stuff that goes into movie history.

rangi
May 25, 2006

Girl , you thought he was man , but he was a MUFFIN

A Personal Journey with Martin Scorsese Through American Movies was quite good. It deals with early cinema up until 1969.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112120/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0yuKp55cuw

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!

Watched "After Porn Ends" on Netflix the other day. A pretty boilerplate talking heads documentary, but worth a look if it sounds interesting.

One fantastic bit at the very end though, which caused my wife and I to simultaneously spin our heads to each other with perfectly synchronized WTF looks. Don't watch the below link if you think you're going to watch the whole documentary, because it's much better if you've seen this girl's whole story unfold. Suffice to say there's nothing in the preceding hour and a half that indicated she'd say something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ-R-QIg0ZA#t=5127s

Looten Plunder
Jul 11, 2006


Grimey Drawer

Fox Sports 1 just aired a documentary called Fighting For A Generation which was a really interesting documentary on the history of the UFC to commemorate it's 20th anniversary.

It's interesting for both hardcore fans and the the average joe. If you have ever thought "I wonder what the deal with that cage fighting is" and would like to know a little more, this is a great place to dip your toes.

I don't live in the US so I'm not sure about air dates, but it is being replayed several times over the next few weeks (maybe on Fox Sports 2 instead, I'm not really sure)

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours


Here's a couple of good, sarcastic British documentaries about Nazi and Stalinist architecture, respectively:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTfbBvIEbfA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtoAvSlWxNE

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

Get on my level


Diodeous posted:

Not sure whether or not these fall under that umbrella, but "If A Tree Falls" about the ELF is somewhat in that vein, as is "Better This World", which vaguely touches on a domestic terror plot related to the 2008 RNC in Minneapolis. I'm probably doing a bad job explaining, but check them out.

I've been strongly tempted to see "gently caress for forest."

The other day though (not related to the above quote) I saw "William and the Windmill."

Ostensibly it's a documentary about a poor kid from Malawi who saw a picture of a windmill in a book at a (very small) library and built a working one that could pump water off of that picture. He looks like a 19 year old black Tesla, but the metastory seems to be about surrogate parents and the intervention of whites in Africa. You see William, after building his windmill, spoke at a TED conference in Tanzania and attracted the attention of one doughy white guy who goes through the movie wearing what I could best describe as "Bono glasses."

On one hand you kind of hate him for how ridiculous he is and how the film portrays William's actual parents as being somewhat "left behind" while William goes off and does cool stuff. On the other hand, he does treat William like a son. It's best to watch the film for yourself but I thought it was really thought-provoking.

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006

I was living a doritos and mt dew incel life locked in my room. Then covid happened and I could pretend I was some sort of special hero for that. Now I spend all day worrying that could get ruined.I guarantee the post next to this message is me talking in baby talk while hyping up fake doomer news.

Just watched We Steal Secrets: The Story of Wikileaks and overall was pretty impressed. It takes a pretty neutral stance of Julian Assange & wikileaks, and goes into interesting detail about the background of the big leaks like the Afghan war diaries. Definitely worth a watch IMHO.

Zaekkor
May 12, 2010

Oh, let's break it down!



mod sassinator posted:

Just watched We Steal Secrets: The Story of Wikileaks and overall was pretty impressed. It takes a pretty neutral stance of Julian Assange & wikileaks, and goes into interesting detail about the background of the big leaks like the Afghan war diaries. Definitely worth a watch IMHO.

With the upcoming movie about this I've been somewhat interested in checking this out, but hesitant as I am not a huge fan of political crap. Is it something I'd enjoy if I just want to know about what actually happened as opposed to about the dumb poo poo he released? Note: I would be interested in the war stuff, and potentially stuff about crime.

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006

I was living a doritos and mt dew incel life locked in my room. Then covid happened and I could pretend I was some sort of special hero for that. Now I spend all day worrying that could get ruined.I guarantee the post next to this message is me talking in baby talk while hyping up fake doomer news.

Obscurity posted:

With the upcoming movie about this I've been somewhat interested in checking this out, but hesitant as I am not a huge fan of political crap. Is it something I'd enjoy if I just want to know about what actually happened as opposed to about the dumb poo poo he released? Note: I would be interested in the war stuff, and potentially stuff about crime.

Yeah it doesn't go into crazy detail about the leaked documents, and tries to show the good and bad aspects of releasing them. I think the most fascinating stuff in the doc is how it tries to look at what drives Assange and how he changed after becoming a global 'celebrity'. There's also a deep look into Bradley/Chelsea Manning and his history in the army which is pretty interesting too.

magnificent7
Sep 22, 2005

THUNDERDOME LOSER


I realize that Dear Zachary is a sad and depressing move, but the most depressing documentary in the world is Jedi Junkies.

Holy Christ on a star of david. It makes me want to open a vein. I mean, yeah, Dear Zachary has that punch in the gut at the ending, but this movie is like getting run over by a steam roller every two minutes.

Ropes4u
May 2, 2009



magnificent7 posted:

I realize that Dear Zachary is a sad and depressing move, but the most depressing documentary in the world is Jedi Junkies.

Holy Christ on a star of david. It makes me want to open a vein. I mean, yeah, Dear Zachary has that punch in the gut at the ending, but this movie is like getting run over by a steam roller every two minutes.

Haha I made my wife watch Jedi Junkies. last night and she couldn't agree more. I was sure she was going to stab me when I suggested we start our own light saber academy.

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005


Angryhead posted:

There's a new VICE "Guide to Travel" video out, called "The Japanese Love Industry".
It's great, fascinating and sad, as their stuff tends to be.

Watching it makes me want to learn more about the Yakuza, any suggestions for that?

If you want to watch more along these lines, check out The Great Happiness Space, it's a documentary on host clubs in Osaka that is really, really well done and funny/depressing.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

Get on my level


Documentary NOT to see : La Vie Reelle

I went in expecting a documentary about Simone Weil's time working at a Renault factory and instead got a dramatic reading of a few of her letters over some Jon Cage wannabe dissonant music while out of focus camera shots of modern-day Paris passed by.

Suffice it to say that I was far from the first person to walk out. I wish I'd spent the time on the David Attenborough/Bjork music of nature documentary.

Ropes4u
May 2, 2009



Watched Charge tonight, pretty interesting flick if your a motorcycle or Eco geek.

CHARGE captures a pivotal moment in motor sport history: the advent of high-speed, zero-emissions racing. It came on June 12th 2009, the day of the world's first zero-emissions motorcycle grand prix. The race took place on the Isle of Man TT course, the most demanding and deadly circuit on the planet. The movie follows the fortunes of several teams, from swaggering US hotshots MotoCzysz to shoestring Anglo-Indian contenders Team Agni and local heroes ManTTx Racing.

spooky_rob
Jul 1, 2013

by T. Finninho


What are some good documentaries about the Mexican drug cartels?

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours


spooky_rob posted:

What are some good documentaries about the Mexican drug cartels?

El Sicario Room 164

MeinPanzer
Dec 19, 2004
anyone who reads Cinema Discusso for anything more than slackjawed trolling will see the shittiness in my posts

spooky_rob posted:

What are some good documentaries about the Mexican drug cartels?

Ironic you ask that, because I just checked Metacritic and saw that a new documentary on Mexican drug cartels and the subculture of glorification surrounding them is opening in theaters across the US tomorrow and is very highly rated so far.

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/narco-cultura

Nuclear Tourist
Apr 7, 2005

L'absinthe, c'est la mort!

Last resort question: I was intending to record the rather excellent documentary "Frozen North: Sir Hubert's Forgotten Submarine Expedition" off of TV, but I somehow failed actually press the record button. Is there any place online where I can buy it and watch it online? Perhaps I fail at google, but I can't find anything more than a trailer. It was made by American Public Television, I think.

Looten Plunder
Jul 11, 2006


Grimey Drawer

spooky_rob posted:

What are some good documentaries about the Mexican drug cartels?

The first episode of HBOs "Witness" (an awesome four part documentary series following combat photographers) follows a photogropher in Juarez, Mexico. Shame it's only a half hour, and might only tangibly be about what you are after, but it's still worth checking out (along with the rest of the series).

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours


The excellent Youtube channel Unreported World has some stuff on Mexico's cartel violence:

http://www.youtube.com/user/UnReportedWorld1

Cactus
Jun 24, 2006



Professor Shark posted:

I just watched a documentary called Billionaires Club yesterday on the Tea Party. Are there any more recent docs on the TP movement, or any extreme right movements in the US?

Edit: I also watched an HBO doc on the 2009 election. I love seeing crazy people cry because Obama became President.

Edit 2: I watched two-thirds The Power Principle today; any opinions on it?

I just got done with the first part of the Power Principal and although I know it's nowhere near as simple as there being "good guys" and "bad guys", if I did think in those terms (if I was a child for example) it wouldn't be unreasonable to conclude that it is the Western World, us, we are in fact the bad guys. WE are the "evil empire" that needs to be overthrown by the world's underdogs... if we don't implode in a sea of infighting, economic collapse, or fascism first, that is. It's fascinating stuff but I can't imagine it goes down well with the patriotic types or the establishment. As a populace we aren't supposed to be exposed to this stuff are we, it could give us some very inconvenient notions.

Speaking of which I would also like to echo your request for Tea Party Documentaries. Anything that delves into the psyche of the Freepers we love to laugh at in D&D, the more recent the better. Preferably filmed during or after Obama's second election victory, because they've really gone off the deep end since then and I find that very interesting. I've already seen Americas Right feeling Wronged.

Edit:

Crossroads: Labor Pains of a New Worldview

quote:

Crossroads: Labor Pains of a New Worldview is a documentary exploring the depths of the current human condition and the emergence of a worldview that is recreating our world from the inside out.

Weaving together insights and findings from biology, psychology, network science, systems science, business, culture and media, the film reveals the inner workings of the human experience in the 21st century, urging viewers to step out of the box and challenge their own assumptions about who we really are, and why we do what we do.

Crossroads places evolutionary context to today's escalating social unrest, natural disasters, and economic failures. It illuminates the footsteps of an integrated worldview, penetrating its way through the power of social networks to the forefront of our personal and collective awareness.

A refreshing reality check for all viewers and a clarion call for those who carry the seeds of the emerging worldview.

Cactus fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Nov 29, 2013

Popelmon
Jan 24, 2010

wow
so spin


Man Dirty Wars just made me loving angry. I read the book but I needed this to really make it sink in.

Ropes4u
May 2, 2009



Popelmon posted:

Man Dirty Wars just made me loving angry. I read the book but I needed this to really make it sink in.

What made you angry about the film? Reading the reviews it looks a bit one sided but it is on my playlist and I would like to know what I am getting into.

ManOfTheYear
Jan 5, 2013


Inspired by this thread, I checked out Kumare and that was some unexpectedly powerful stuff. It started out as almost as an prank, but went into a much deeper territory with some real meaning. drat good piece of film making.

Cactus
Jun 24, 2006



What's the best documentary to watch that explains the worldwide financial crash circa 2008, both what caused it and future implications? It will preferably be informative, politically unbiased, and explained in a way so that someone like me that doesn't know anything about economics or banking beyond a basic supply/demand curve will be able to grasp the concepts presented.

Sagacity
May 2, 2003
Hopefully my epitaph will be funnier than my custom title.

A few documentaries I really liked at IDFA'13: Twenty Feet From Stardom, about background singers, why they're awesome and why they sometimes elect to stay out of the limelight.

Displaced Perssons, a charming story about a Swedish guy who traveled the world, ended up in Pakistan. He married, had two daughters and now wants to move his entire family back to Sweden to make sure they don't end up staying indoors and doing housework all the time.

Ukraine Is Not A Brothel, about Femen, a bunch of topless feminists (yes, that's a thing). How likely is it that they are, in fact, organized by a man?

And finally, for those of you who like their documentaries to be gutpunches in the style of Dear Zachary, I recommend Farewell to Hollywood. I'm still not sure if I agree with the methods of the maker, Henry Corra, but it certainly was...well, emotionally exhausting.

faddypaddy
Sep 3, 2011


End of the fiscal year, bitch.
Everyone gets a title or we lose it next year


SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made Prod

Cactus posted:

What's the best documentary to watch that explains the worldwide financial crash circa 2008, both what caused it and future implications? It will preferably be informative, politically unbiased, and explained in a way so that someone like me that doesn't know anything about economics or banking beyond a basic supply/demand curve will be able to grasp the concepts presented.

Frontline has a four hour two part series called Money, Power, and Wall St which does a good job of covering what led
to the fall and why it was so bad. It is pretty unbiased and easy to grasp follow it up with the Untouchables another Frontline doc about the post crash prosecutions etc.

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mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006

I was living a doritos and mt dew incel life locked in my room. Then covid happened and I could pretend I was some sort of special hero for that. Now I spend all day worrying that could get ruined.I guarantee the post next to this message is me talking in baby talk while hyping up fake doomer news.

faddypaddy posted:

Frontline has a four hour two part series called Money, Power, and Wall St which does a good job of covering what led
to the fall and why it was so bad. It is pretty unbiased and easy to grasp follow it up with the Untouchables another Frontline doc about the post crash prosecutions etc.

Came to post this too, it's a great doc: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/money-power-wall-street/

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