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Androies
Oct 23, 2008

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Friar Zucchini posted:

Tell that from the guy from my class whose 3/3 sent him to a special forces unit.
He's off to the land of milk and honey where things make sense and you get language training when you need it. I'm talking about the REAL Army.

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mind is moving
Nov 7, 2009



Friar Zucchini posted:

Tell that from the guy from my class whose 3/3 sent him to a special forces unit.

Unless something has changed radically over the past couple years, Human Resources Command doesn't talent-manage initial entry training linguists in any fashion whatsoever. The naturally gifted 3/3 honor grad and the idiot who miraculously got a 2/2 are both subject to the needs of the Army when it comes to assignments. Your classmate either got the luck of the draw or volunteered for airborne training (which typically results in orders to one of the SF groups)

With the Army starting to tighten up regulations for sub-proficient linguists, it's equally funny/depressing to see people come fresh out of DLI to a tactical unit, never get any language training, fail their first DLPT and be forced to reclass or get out in less than 2 years.

mind is moving fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Apr 11, 2015

Analogical
May 20, 2013

EEOD? Why not, I could use a break from work

:911:


There are a few JSOC units that poach graduates who have a mix of 3/3 and good PT scores, you hear about it happening every now and then. Usually when they don't get anyone fit enough from their briefs at the gaining commands because once we all get to our missions we let ourselves go.

Analogical fucked around with this message at 21:43 on May 5, 2015

Friar Zucchini
Aug 6, 2010



mind is moving posted:

Your classmate either got the luck of the draw or volunteered for airborne training (which typically results in orders to one of the SF groups)
It was the latter. And that was after they pulled him out of class for a couple weeks after he got a DUI. Frankly I'm amazed he even passed, let alone the DLPT scores.

Professor Bling
Nov 12, 2008

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN


Friar Zucchini posted:

I can't imagine it's in any kind of usable condition? Just from what I saw where it had clearly been sitting for however many years it looked like the best that could be said was "there's still hope".

Needs an engine rebuild anyway, and it's more of a long-term project than a "fix it now" daily. It'll be on the road again in a few years, probably not restored. I like that "half-busted" look it has right now.

Friar Zucchini
Aug 6, 2010



Wait ya know I just realized there's a subforum for that. And that car is pretty much right up their alley too. I'll be waiting for your thread.

Silvance
Sep 30, 2011


So I'll be in meade in 3 days. Anything you guys can tell me about the post?

Also, anyone here a pashto linguist? I'd like to keep my 3/3 but after my experience at Goodfellow I learned the vast difference between real pashto and DLI pashto. What did you guys do to improve your real (grammatically incorrect ) Pashto?

son gay. so what
Mar 13, 2011


Silvance posted:

So I'll be in meade in 3 days. Anything you guys can tell me about the post?

Also, anyone here a pashto linguist? I'd like to keep my 3/3 but after my experience at Goodfellow I learned the vast difference between real pashto and DLI pashto. What did you guys do to improve your real (grammatically incorrect ) Pashto?

DLI pashto is bull, watch random videos on youtube.

Are there still a decent number of foreigners attending DLI? what do you think of them

son gay. so what fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Apr 24, 2015

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

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I don't think I've seen a single foreign uniform, so unless they're in civvies I don't think they're around much.

new friend from school
May 19, 2008


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Silvance posted:

So I'll be in meade in 3 days. Anything you guys can tell me about the post?

Also, anyone here a pashto linguist? I'd like to keep my 3/3 but after my experience at Goodfellow I learned the vast difference between real pashto and DLI pashto. What did you guys do to improve your real (grammatically incorrect ) Pashto?

I used to be a Pashto linguist. I kept up my "real" Pashto skillz by being in Afghanistan. This lowered my DLPT score from 3/3 to 2/2+, but I dgaf cause I made E-6 in the USMC in under 8 years and was about to get out anyway, plus I'd always had native Russian and Ukrainian skills at 3/3 or higher the whole time I was in, so FLPP was maxed no matter what.
From what I understand, Meade will provide plenty for you to maintain "real" language skills. Watch BBC Pashto for DLPT practice lol

Internet Wizard posted:

I don't think I've seen a single foreign uniform, so unless they're in civvies I don't think they're around much.
This was definitely a thing in 2010-11, and probably before then as well.

new friend from school fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Apr 24, 2015

son gay. so what
Mar 13, 2011


safetyStanddown posted:

I used to be a Pashto linguist. I kept up my "real" Pashto skillz by being in Afghanistan. This lowered my DLPT score from 3/3 to 2/2+, but I dgaf cause I made E-6 in the USMC in under 8 years and was about to get out anyway, plus I'd always had native Russian and Ukrainian skills at 3/3 or higher the whole time I was in, so FLPP was maxed no matter what.
From what I understand, Meade will provide plenty for you to maintain "real" language skills. Watch BBC Pashto for DLPT practice lol

This was definitely a thing in 2010-11, and probably before then as well.

Yeah I went to DLI pre2011 for my Pashto skillz, but RC West or whatever they renamed it mostly speaks a weird mixture of Farsi/Pashto so I had a hell of a learning curve. But considering I mostly taught myself Egyptian Arabic in secondary school I caught in fairly quick :smuggo:

McNally
Sep 12, 2007

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Do you like muskets?


Silvance posted:

So I'll be in meade in 3 days. Anything you guys can tell me about the post?

Don't know much about the post itself, other than they just built a new PX, but the area isn't too bad.

Go to Towson for drunk college girls.

somewhatpathetic
Oct 21, 2012


Or DC, or anywhere, cause you're near a ton of poo poo.

Also, your job's going to be very unit and shop dependent. You could be doing 9-5 just tapping away at a computer, or swings doing overwatch, or panamas doing god knows what.

Hope you like traffic, though.

Friar Zucchini
Aug 6, 2010



MegaJoe89 posted:

Are there still a decent number of foreigners attending DLI? what do you think of them
I didn't see any at all when I was there, 2013-2014. I did see some at Lackland while I was in basic, which would make sense since that's where DLIELC is. I see them every once in a while at Ft Gordon too.

somewhatpathetic
Oct 21, 2012


There were a fair few floating through in '06-'08. I ran into a ton of Danes for some reason.

Professor Bling
Nov 12, 2008

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN


Yeah, there were I think a grand total of 2 Norwegians when I went through in '11-'12

Analogical
May 20, 2013

EEOD? Why not, I could use a break from work

:911:


We have a lot on Fort Gordon but they're generally not near us, they've over by the pool/Teresas (RIP). The norwegians were probably danes.

Androies
Oct 23, 2008

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http://www.ksbw.com/news/monterey-defense-language-institute-student-reported-missing/32557236

Perfect mix of Army BS and DLI sperginess.
"Commanders said it would take about 2 months before she could get treatment."
ArmyMedicine.txt

son gay. so what
Mar 13, 2011


I'm calling BS. If my time at DLI taught me anything she ran away because she got tired of weirdos creeping on her, or got knocked up by one of those weirdos. "fasting for 40 days in the Forrest" is code word for "going to Mexican back room abortion clinic to get this embarrassment out of me"

Also why are they wasting resources on someone in the reserves? We expect our reservists to yknow, have a skill that they use in their everyday life. And Korean at that, wtf you guys love blowing money on idiots.

son gay. so what fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Apr 25, 2015

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

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This is the first I'm hearing of this, which is actually kind of disconcerting since they claim that missing persons posters were circulated around the base and such.

Androies
Oct 23, 2008

Ask me about my knives


MegaJoe89 posted:

I'm calling BS. If my time at DLI taught me anything she ran away because she got tired of weirdos creeping on her, or got knocked up by one of those weirdos. "fasting for 40 days in the Forrest" is code word for "going to Mexican back room abortion clinic to get this embarrassment out of me"

Also why are they wasting resources on someone in the reserves? We expect our reservists to yknow, have a skill that they use in their everyday life. And Korean at that, wtf you guys love blowing money on idiots.

If you haven't realized the military hates money by now there is no hope for you. My buddy I went to Goodfellow with who is in the Florida National Guard is literally on TDY to Germany for his language refresher course.

son gay. so what
Mar 13, 2011


Androies posted:

If you haven't realized the military hates money by now there is no hope for you. My buddy I went to Goodfellow with who is in the Florida National Guard is literally on TDY to Germany for his language refresher course.

I just don't get it, we have reserves but they've usually done at least a year of 'active' duty and have a skill that they use on a daily basis than can be used on peacekeeping operations. German language is so off our radar for operationally useful languages same with Korean, that we can just get a civilian to fill that slot if need be. Slavic languages/Arabic languages/Pashto/Farsi/Dari are the only ones we will shell out money for people to learn and we have a hard time with that.

standard.deviant
May 16, 2012

Globally Indigent

MegaJoe89 posted:

German language is so off our radar for operationally useful languages same with Korean, that we can just get a civilian to fill that slot if need be. Slavic languages/Arabic languages/Pashto/Farsi/Dari are the only ones we will shell out money for people to learn and we have a hard time with that.
Garmish has a very good language school, they teach all of those there. The reason the military hates money in that case is that they flew someone to Germany from Florida instead of driving up the road to Georgia or taking a shorter flight to Texas or Maryland.

Androies
Oct 23, 2008

Ask me about my knives


Guess I should have specified, my buddy is a Farsi linguist. Yes, they flew him to Germany to study Farsi.

son gay. so what
Mar 13, 2011


Androies posted:

Guess I should have specified, my buddy is a Farsi linguist. Yes, they flew him to Germany to study Farsi.

Lmfao. Okay it makes more sense he's a Farsi linguist I assumed he was a German linguist. But lmao they flew him to Germany for his Farsi refresher? I go to Morocco for my MSA/Darija refresher course and just hope I don't get kidnapped. We've been doing local courses now I believe we no longer send people to DLI

standard.deviant
May 16, 2012

Globally Indigent

There could be problems trying to go in-country for Farsi...

son gay. so what
Mar 13, 2011


standard.deviant posted:

There could be problems trying to go in-country for Farsi...

Hahaha what, a pasty white DLI grad in some shithole sounds like a drat good idea. Think of the headlines!

USMC503
Jan 15, 2012

For satisfactory performance while under the effects of hostile enemy alcohol.

MegaJoe89 posted:

I just don't get it, we have reserves but they've usually done at least a year of 'active' duty and have a skill that they use on a daily basis than can be used on peacekeeping operations. German language is so off our radar for operationally useful languages same with Korean, that we can just get a civilian to fill that slot if need be. Slavic languages/Arabic languages/Pashto/Farsi/Dari are the only ones we will shell out money for people to learn and we have a hard time with that.

Well see, the reason we train people in all these languages is because America has a boner.

It has a raging boner of a 16 year old boy who just got slipped viagra by his buddy.

Now imagine the middle east is a pussy. We really like to gently caress that sandy snatch for some reason, but it doesn't always satisfy us. Sometimes this raging boner thirsts for dry humping or just, well, being a dick. A dick that likes being stuck in pudding. Other countries' pudding.

Our linguists trained in all kinds of bullshit lets us at least project the imagine we might be listening to them or would be ready to gently caress them right up the rear end without lube at any moment.

somewhatpathetic
Oct 21, 2012


And because of that, there's the whole strategic work side of the house. Military linguists are pretty cheap compared to the civilian equivalent (quality's also worse, but hey!), so any intell agency related to the DoD in a peripheral way is going to have a few sperges with bad haircuts floating about.

So that's why you get the massive amount of Korean/Chinese linguists floating about, they're cheap transcribers/collection operators who become even cheaper compared to their civil counterparts if they're on swings or mids. No one in their right mind's going to do a job that they could do in the middle of the day for the same amount of cash up front.

Dingleberry
Aug 21, 2011


MegaJoe89 posted:

Hahaha what, a pasty white DLI grad in some shithole sounds like a drat good idea. Think of the headlines!



From the Marine Corps Times...
"SGT Nick Brody partakes in some local recreation while at Farsi Immersion Refresher."

son gay. so what
Mar 13, 2011


Androies posted:

http://www.ksbw.com/news/monterey-defense-language-institute-student-reported-missing/32557236

Perfect mix of Army BS and DLI sperginess.
"Commanders said it would take about 2 months before she could get treatment."
ArmyMedicine.txt

Any updates on this?

Androies
Oct 23, 2008

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son gay. so what posted:

Any updates on this?

http://www.montereyherald.com/general-news/20150429/missing-woman-25-found-wandering-in-big-sur

Apparently somebody recognized her while hiking around Big Sur.

Atall
May 23, 2012


New Commandant and Assistant Commandant will take over soon.

Analogical
May 20, 2013

EEOD? Why not, I could use a break from work

:911:


I might be going back to DLI for a year. How gay is CIDU Mont now?

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES



The only complaints that I heard are stuff you'll be able to get out of by virtue of not being junior enlisted.

Spockly
Feb 4, 2008


So has anyone here gone through an Advanced Course? I'm curious how the day to day differs for the Advanced/Intermediate school houses compares to my first time through.

Analogical
May 20, 2013

EEOD? Why not, I could use a break from work

:911:


Spockly posted:

So has anyone here gone through an Advanced Course? I'm curious how the day to day differs for the Advanced/Intermediate school houses compares to my first time through.

It's roughly the same as your first run through. I've taken intermediate and advanced courses and the only difference as you might expect is the difficulty of the material. Hours, homework quantity and general breakdown (i.e. reading hour, speaking hour) are all dependent on the schoolhouse but roughly what you're used to.

Spockly
Feb 4, 2008


Analogical posted:

It's roughly the same as your first run through. I've taken intermediate and advanced courses and the only difference as you might expect is the difficulty of the material. Hours, homework quantity and general breakdown (i.e. reading hour, speaking hour) are all dependent on the schoolhouse but roughly what you're used to.

I've heard the classes are at Ord somewhere is it worth living on Ord for that? Going through the first time around (Army) I didn't really see any people in the advanced or intermediate courses. Will I still be aligned by company/language like the first time?

Atall
May 23, 2012


All intermediate / advanced classes soldiers belong to Echo Company.

I'd live at Ord just because it's closer to the classes.

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Friar Zucchini
Aug 6, 2010



Analogical posted:

It's roughly the same as your first run through. I've taken intermediate and advanced courses and the only difference as you might expect is the difficulty of the material. Hours, homework quantity and general breakdown (i.e. reading hour, speaking hour) are all dependent on the schoolhouse but roughly what you're used to.
That right there doesn't necessarily give a lot of information. I could pencilwhip some poo poo up in like half an hour or 45 minutes after formation in the morning and get away with it, but then I was talking to some Russian kids that literally lived homework, doing it in class breaks, lunch, after class and staying up late still working on it and could still barely get it all done.

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