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I was going to say I think I read that LE Modessit book about a guy building furniture and I loved it.
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Lobsterpillar posted:I was going to say I think I read that LE Modessit book about a guy building furniture and I loved it. Yeah, I remember after reading one of his books realizing that I had just read a book about a cabinet maker who overhears a lot of people talking about him, does a lot a inner monologuing, and occasionally goes and blows something up by loving up molecular bonds with his mind. And I was OK with it. Love me the Recluse and Imager Portfolio books.
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pile of brown posted:I can't remember the author off the top of my head but the engineer trilogy, first book devices and desires, had lots of furniture building as well K J Parker. Very good writer, horrible protagonists.
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computer parts posted:Tolkien also has the main antagonist of the Hobbit killed off screen from the perspective of the protagonists, and he most definitely wasn't a "Master" then. The Hobbit is structured as a series of bedtime stories and doesn't have a consistent antagonist. Bilbo isn't the protagonist of the story where Smaug dies. And the point isn't that you have to be established to be a master. If someone breaks a rule and it makes sense and improves the story then it's good, and any rule can be broken like this. 90% of the time when a rule is broken, it has a lovely outcome.
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thespaceinvader posted:K J Parker. Very good writer, horrible protagonists. They're good protagonists, they're just horrible people.
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Khizan posted:They're good protagonists, they're just horrible people. I'd probably call them main characters rather than protagonists in a lot of cases, since in many novels they'd actually be the antagonists if it weren't for them getting the most screen time. KJ Parker really gets on my nerves for just this reason. I love his writing style so much, I really enjoy his worldbuilding and his plotting, but I can't get on with his novels because of just how unlikeable the main characters are.
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NovemberMike posted:The Hobbit is structured as a series of bedtime stories and doesn't have a consistent antagonist. Bilbo isn't the protagonist of the story where Smaug dies. And even "Masters" do the latter, like Tolkien's geographical rather than chronological division of The Two Towers (you might remember GRRM also using this technique).
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Oh god, it starts again! A reminder that Bands of Mourning are coming soon. Here's chapter one! http://www.tor.com/2015/12/07/excerpts-brandon-sanderson-the-bands-of-mourning-chapter-one/
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Torrannor posted:Oh god, it starts again! A reminder that Bands of Mourning are coming soon. I'm going to do what I usually do with Sanderson, and only read the first one of these. So before this thread becomes an unpenetrable mess of black bars this is a pretty good start IMO.
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Torrannor posted:Oh god, it starts again! A reminder that Bands of Mourning are coming soon. I hope that cover reflects that Steris will have a larger role in this. Between that last book and this teaser chapter, I'm really liking her.
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Torrannor posted:Oh god, it starts again! A reminder that Bands of Mourning are coming soon. And now chapter 2 http://www.tor.com/2015/12/14/the-bands-of-mourning-chapter-two/
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The Gardenator posted:And now chapter 2 I'm kind of miffed that they posted this chapter. They should perhaps only posted the very last part or just skipped it entirely.
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Torrannor posted:I'm kind of miffed that they posted this chapter. They should perhaps only posted the very last part or just skipped it entirely. Now I don't know if I want to read it or try holding out until the book releases. 
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Evil Fluffy posted:Now I don't know if I want to read it or try holding out until the book releases. I'm not reading it, and I'm also going to peace out of this thread until the book comes out. My willpower isn't strong enough to deal with temptation.
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I just read it. It's like ripping off a band aid, just get it over with. I do like Steris though, I hope she is featured more in this book.
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Dec 16, 2015 08:56
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New State of the Sanderson post is up.
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Haha, that man has so many planned books its ridiculous. He has his book order (probably add in a couple novellas here and there) planned out until sometime in 2022...
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Next Stormlight book probably not until 2017?  I didn't realize the Wax and Wayne stuff was 4 books. I thought it ended with Bands of Mourning. I am looking forward to a 1980s Mistborn though. Imagine a misting lead singer in a hair metal band. 
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Evil Fluffy posted:Next Stormlight book probably not until 2017? Yep! Alloy is "Stand alone", I was pleasantly surprised by that while reading Wikipedia. 
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Dec 19, 2015 01:07
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It appears the Stormlight series is giving him a case of the GRRM.
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computer parts posted:It appears the Stormlight series is giving him a case of the GRRM. 10 books has been the plan for years now
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State of the GRRM: Winds of Winter: on hiatus State of the Rothfuss: Doors of Stone: on hiatus
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Right, unlike those two, Sanderson is still pumping out books. It will just take longer to finish his Stormlight Archive series.
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I mean it just tends to happen to all "epic" book series. Dresden for example has been increasing the time between releases for like 4 years now.
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And the delay's fault isn't even his, it's the people that aren't him. "Dude, slow down, we have to read and edit and things to do to to get this ready to publish, and you're expecting us to do all this plus our other clients' works on a thousand page book several times for a thousand page book in eighteen months, minus the time you spend writing?"
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Evil Fluffy posted:Next Stormlight book probably not until 2017? 
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Evil Fluffy posted:Next Stormlight book probably not until 2017? Perhaps on Scadrial, heavy metal gets its name from bendalloy mistings burning an alloy of two heavy metals to create speed bubbles that allow them to shred faster.
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computer parts posted:I mean it just tends to happen to all "epic" book series. Dresden for example has been increasing the time between releases for like 4 years now.
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Cicero posted:The difference is that Sanderson's series entries get more spread out because he keeps getting more total series and random standalones; his average time between books as a whole has remained the same. The same? Or has it gotten faster? Sometimes I swear that he somehow puts out 5+ books a year.
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I would argue it's faster when you consider the sheer length of each Stormlight archives book.
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Cicero posted:The difference is that Sanderson's series entries get more spread out because he keeps getting more total series and random standalones; his average time between books as a whole has remained the same. It sounded like for Stormlight it was more that he had free time since there was nothing else to do because wrangling all the plot elements was tiring and editing would tack on a year anyway.
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Chapter 3 Some juicy magic speculation going on here. Looking forward to seeing where this is going.
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Jorenko posted:Chapter 3 Massive spoilers, a big infodump and a very good hook to keep reading. I'm really looking forward to the book.
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So reading Aether of Night thanks to this and its a pretty great Christmas present. Even if its not up to his recent standards its still fun. Plus fanboying everywhere on my part, of course I'll love it.
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M_Gargantua posted:So reading Aether of Night thanks to this and its a pretty great Christmas present. Even if its not up to his recent standards its still fun. The magic system from it is still canon, even if the rest of the story is pretty thoroughly scavanged.
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Yeah. You can tell a lot bits that were adapted for mistborn. And some thats very similar to the shard plate in Stormlight. Character archetypes Etc. I did enjoy it. Still plan on emailing back my detailed feelings on it as a courtesy. It does have it's flaws. Much like Elantris. Although it had pacing issues I didn't feel as if as he stated "it's two books in one"
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I'd recommend you ask about Mistborn Prime and Final Empire Prime as well. Mistborn Prime is like a mistborn fanfic after fans played one or two games of telephone with the magic systems. Final Empire Prime is just batshit hilarious.
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thespaceinvader posted:I'd probably call them main characters rather than protagonists in a lot of cases, since in many novels they'd actually be the antagonists if it weren't for them getting the most screen time. KJ Parker really gets on my nerves for just this reason. I love his writing style so much, I really enjoy his worldbuilding and his plotting, but I can't get on with his novels because of just how unlikeable the main characters are. The Folding Knife was interesting in that the main character was looking out for number one and making things better for everyone else as a side effect (for most of the book, at least...). A good read for Sanderson fans, too, it's pretty funny and has that whole Avalanche thing going without a dragging middle.
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Just think about this if you ever want to talk about how some book is objectively poo or such and such author is a novice and other fart huffing nonsense
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I need someone to help me out. I took a long break from Stormlight Archives right about the halfway point of book two. I was able to pick it back up without having to start over again, but there is one thing I cannot remember for the life of me: how did Shallen get a shard blade? I know she is able to manipulate stormlight because of her connection to Pattern, but I cannot remember her getting a blade. She busted one out in the chasm and surprised me.
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