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The Peter Grant series by Ben Aaronovitch is a good alternative if you want something like Dresden that is more serious. Since we are in the Sanderson thread I should suggest The Grimnoir Chronicles. Takes place after world war one with a really detailed magic system. I had a lot of fun reading the first two books.
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I've been meaning to post this for a while since I reread WoK, but I just noticed that Elhokar paranoia is caused by him seeing the same symbol headed spren that Shallan saw. This was probably obvious to most people, but I managed to completely miss it the first time.
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The Glumslinger posted:I've been meaning to post this for a while since I reread WoK, but I just noticed that Elhokar paranoia is caused by him seeing the same symbol headed spren that Shallan saw. Imagine how many other tiny minor things we are missing that will all come back to play major roles in book 10. Reading Brandon Sanderson books owns. 
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Dec 12, 2012 02:18
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Cartoon Man posted:Imagine how many other tiny minor things we are missing that will all come back to play major roles in book 10. Hell, the last 2-3 books should be a sustained avalanche!
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Dec 12, 2012 02:50
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keiran_helcyan posted:Hell, the last 2-3 books should be a sustained avalanche! And will probably weigh about 5 pounds each.
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Dec 12, 2012 02:57
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Clinton1011 posted:The Peter Grant series by Ben Aaronovitch is a good alternative if you want something like Dresden that is more serious. Yeah, Rivers of London and its sequels is the best urban fantasy series to date. Mostly because it's actually well written, gasp. And while they're certainly more serious that the Dresden Files, they've still got a fair bit of comedy in them. Once you've knocked through those, pick up Harry Connolly's Child of Fire trilogy. That they're excellent didn't stop it being unfortunately cut short by dire sales  e: On Twitter, Sanderson's just said he's finished 30%/90,000 words of the Stormlight 2 rough draft. Gonna be another thousand-page doorstop like the first 
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Dec 12, 2012 05:38
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404GoonNotFound posted:And will probably weigh about 5 pounds each. The real Sanderson Avalanche is accidentally knocking over a collection of his books.
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ConfusedUs posted:No, the others were bad. Shallan? Horrid!
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AlternateAccount posted:I really wasn't looking for it, but in Chapter 34 of KoD, Furyk walks in on a grouping of Seanchan leaders and kind of runs through how they're all physically pretty distinct in coloring. So apparently Seanchan is rather gigantic and unified across quite a variety of people. The Westlands are quite big (roughly 6 millions sq miles), but Seanchan is bigger and unified. Not counting the Lesser Blight, Seanchan runs from about 40 degrees north to 40 degrees south. 
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Something I noticed...isn't ClayShan basically magical combat ballet?
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I finally got around to reading The Final Empire and really enjoyed it. It had some issues but overall was really well done. The OP says the second and third book are a lot different though and that's making me a bit wary of starting into the rest. Is it worth continuing or are they so drastically different that I should just treat it as a one off and move on?
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The Gunslinger posted:I finally got around to reading The Final Empire and really enjoyed it. It had some issues but overall was really well done. The OP says the second and third book are a lot different though and that's making me a bit wary of starting into the rest. Is it worth continuing or are they so drastically different that I should just treat it as a one off and move on? The answer with Brandon Sanderson is invariably "KEEP GOING". Yes, there are slow parts. Yes, there are characters and developments that you will hate. Yes, it is always worth it to keep going. It invariably all pays off in the end.
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NinjaDebugger posted:The answer with Brandon Sanderson is invariably "KEEP GOING". Yes, there are slow parts. Yes, there are characters and developments that you will hate. Yes, it is always worth it to keep going. It invariably all pays off in the end. Especially the book 3 ending when you realize how much closer you should have been paying attention to detail.
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Cartoon Man posted:Especially the book 3 ending when you realize how much closer you should have been paying attention to detail. Fortunately, I love it when an author makes me feel stupid like he does.
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I reread the entire Mistborn trilogy a few weeks ago and accidentally mistimed my reading speed. I hit the last part of the third book, the giant Sanderson Avalanche, around 10pm. You don't sleep until you ride out the Avalanche. I was very unproductive at work the next day.
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The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > The Book Barn > Brandon Sanderson: You don't sleep until you ride out the Avalanche.
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I'm about halfway through the second book now and it's...not great. The first book was pretty consistent so this is a bit disappointing, I'm just not enjoying it very much. Maybe the first book coasted on the Kelsier character too much, I don't know but it's really boring with the focus being mostly on Vin and her character isn't anywhere near as interesting this time. I hope this gets better, avalanche or not.
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The Gunslinger posted:I'm about halfway through the second book now and it's...not great. The first book was pretty consistent so this is a bit disappointing, I'm just not enjoying it very much. Maybe the first book coasted on the Kelsier character too much, I don't know but it's really boring with the focus being mostly on Vin and her character isn't anywhere near as interesting this time. I hope this gets better, avalanche or not. IIRC, yeah, it picks up right around the halfway mark. But the second book is easily the weakest in the trilogy, I was thinking of giving up on it a couple times myself. Vin's "journey" really didn't grab anything in me at all. The third book made me glad I stuck with it, but overall I'd call Mistborn "pretty good" and not "great", with moments of "holy gently caress that was sweet" and at least a few slogs of "oh my GOD I don't care". Book two is where the greatest density of the last occurs by far. The Way of Kings is great. Hold your final judgment on Sanderson until you've read that book, you won't be sorry.
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Yeah I read The Way of Kings and really enjoyed it, so I figured I would revisit his older stuff since the new book wasn't out yet. I was pleasantly surprised at how good the first Mistborn book was since people warned me his early writing was a bit rough. Unfortunately the second book is not clicking at all for me I'll stick with it awhile longer and see.
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The Gunslinger posted:Yeah I read The Way of Kings and really enjoyed it, so I figured I would revisit his older stuff since the new book wasn't out yet. I was pleasantly surprised at how good the first Mistborn book was since people warned me his early writing was a bit rough. Unfortunately the second book is not clicking at all for me The avalanche kicks into overdrive near the last quarter. Book 2 is not as good as the others, but is necessary to finish because book 3 owns! Also book 3 has a major Spook POV all throughout it and that owns in an of itself. What I'm trying to say is, Spook owns.
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wellwhoopdedooo posted:The Way of Kings is great. Hold your final judgment on Sanderson until you've read that book, you won't be sorry. Yeah, I read the Final Empire and then The Way of Kings in quick succession and the difference even in the quality of his prose is pretty noticeable.
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patricius posted:Yeah, I read the Final Empire and then The Way of Kings in quick succession and the difference even in the quality of his prose is pretty noticeable. Have you read his recent short stories/novellas? (The Emporer's Soul and Legion.) He's getting even better than when he wrote WOK. Stormlight book 2 is going to be so good... 
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Cartoon Man posted:Have you read his recent short stories/novellas? (The Emporer's Soul and Legion.) He's getting even better than when he wrote WOK. Stormlight book 2 is going to be so good... I haven't read Legion yet, but yeah, Emperor's Soul blew me away.
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The Gunslinger posted:I'm about halfway through the second book now and it's...not great. The first book was pretty consistent so this is a bit disappointing, I'm just not enjoying it very much. Maybe the first book coasted on the Kelsier character too much, I don't know but it's really boring with the focus being mostly on Vin and her character isn't anywhere near as interesting this time. I hope this gets better, avalanche or not. The second book is really not fulfilling until you see the last Sazed chapter, then it's awesome.
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The Gunslinger posted:I'm about halfway through the second book now and it's...not great. The first book was pretty consistent so this is a bit disappointing, I'm just not enjoying it very much. Maybe the first book coasted on the Kelsier character too much, I don't know but it's really boring with the focus being mostly on Vin and her character isn't anywhere near as interesting this time. I hope this gets better, avalanche or not. I didn't really enjoy the second book much either. Elend is a moron, Zane is a brooding asshat, and Lord Venture isn't a great antagonist either. It does have a good ending though, and the third book is nonstop amazing. So I'd recommend sticking it out.
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Cartoon Man posted:The avalanche kicks into overdrive near the last quarter. Book 2 is not as good as the others, but is necessary to finish because book 3 owns! Also book 3 has a major Spook POV all throughout it and that owns in an of itself. Spook is pretty great. This man knows what he's talking about.
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If only I knew what he wasing talking about.
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OneTwentySix posted:If only I knew what he wasing talking about. i see you've been practicing your high-imperial
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treeboy posted:i see you've been practicing your high-imperial
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keiran_helcyan posted:I didn't really enjoy the second book much either. Elend is a moron, Zane is a brooding asshat, and Lord Venture isn't a great antagonist either. I'm doing my best, about 80% through but drat its a real slog. The whole book seems like a step backwards from the first, one characters "negative" trait is that he's just too good and unselfish, I feel like I'm reading YA fantasy here. I'm not even sure what happened but every interesting character and element from the first is boring in this one. It's like Sanderson put his name on this but someone else wrote it. The ending better blow my mind or I'm skipping the third. The Gunslinger fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Jan 9, 2013 |
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The Gunslinger posted:I'm doing my best, about 80% through but drat its a real slog. The whole book seems like a step backwards from the first, one characters "negative" trait is that he's just too good and unselfish, I feel like I'm reading YA fantasy here. I'm not even sure what happened but every interesting character and element from the first is boring in this one. It's like Sanderson put his name on this but someone else wrote it. The ending better blow my mind or I'm skipping the third. That's kind of what Mistborn is, slightly more advanced YA fantasy. There's no real shame in that (except in the extreme cases of horrible cash-ins ...) The end has a pretty good twist that sets up the conclusion, though, one you should be picking up bits and pieces of as you slog through the middle.
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api call girl posted:That's kind of what Mistborn is, slightly more advanced YA fantasy. There's no real shame in that (except in the extreme cases of horrible cash-ins ...) Yeah I am just frustrated with the book I guess, you're right. I'm not sure what twist it's setting up to be honest, I was more focused on (correctly) guessing who the spy was and just sort of rolling my eyes through other sections. I assume it's in reference to the framing story so I'll give it some thought later.
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The Gunslinger posted:The ending better blow my mind or I'm skipping the third. Working your way through the second book and then skipping the third out of spite would be a pretty ridiculous and terrible mistake, seeing as how the third book is pretty much a constant rollercoaster of 
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The worst part about the second book is the relationship stuff. It just keeps spinning in a circle over and over for far too long, and it gets tedious each time you see Vin wondering if she deserves Elend because every time that happens there's a followup scene where Elend wonders if he deserves Vin. I did feel like the third book made up for it, but yikes there's just so much padding and bloat weighing the second book down.
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Think of the Mistborn trilogy as one book. Most of the third book is the Sanderson Avalanche of that whole book. You're stuck in the middle doldrums. On reflection I didn't find it that bad, but I can totally see how someone would. But who picks up a Sanderson book and skips out on the Avalanche?
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Antti posted:who picks up a Sanderson book and skips out on the Avalanche? Yeah don't ever, ever, ever, ever do this. Always read to the end of a Sanderson book.
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 Come on, Brandon, do it!
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api call girl posted:
Hell no! Brandon needs to focus on Stormlight 2. Besides he can probably finish up some of these smaller projects on his next plane-ride.
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Jan 16, 2013 04:48
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It's like clockwork with him, planes, and new books.
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Superstring posted:It's like clockwork with him, planes, and new books. Can anyone crosscheck on this: Is ClayShan(from Elantris) actually magic ballet or am I reading too much into it?
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