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HalloKitty posted:Let me guess. 5.9. I'm pretty sure mechanical disks are capped there. You should get the same score with the same hardware, the scale just goes higher in 7.
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SRQ posted:Does it work on a wacky logarithmic warp scale or is it just linear? I don't think they have officially said, but they did state when Vista came out that the expect to add a number every 12 to 18 months but that's to account for new hardware and does not mean that your numbers will eventually lower to 1.
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Ryokurin posted:I don't think they have officially said, but they did state when Vista came out that the expect to add a number every 12 to 18 months but that's to account for new hardware and does not mean that your numbers will eventually lower to 1. Yeah, they also said that a 4 will always be a four. So in theory someday we'll have scores in the hundreds (yeah, like this will last that long)
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adorai posted:You should get the same score with the same hardware, the scale just goes higher in 7. I don't think this is the case. http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows-7/windows-7-feature-focus-windows-experience-index posted:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows7/achieving-a-perfect-windows-experience-index-score-in-windows-7#section_3 posted:
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AMD has launched 7 new Llano mobile CPUs. Six of them are just 100Mhz speed bumps on core/turbo clocks, one for each segment at 35W and 45W TDPs. There's also the A4-3305M, which has a weirdly reconfigured GPU. Not really a big deal, but I'd like to see the A8-3550MX in the wild.
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Dec 9, 2011 01:41
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The 7970 is now set to launch on December 22, with the 7950 on January 9 if leaked slides are to be believed.
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The leaked specs look phenomenal, but the 7970 is expected to launch north of $400. I'm still really tempted to grab one as my Christmas present to myself.
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Dec 15, 2011 21:21
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Yeah I might get that and write it off for multi-monitor use, those are some ridiculous specs. Edit: It's either that or 580s in SLI, same price, just dunno. More CUDA (with more monitors, cough) or a single better badass card, gently caress the high end, if you make the mistake of buying once it's impossible to upgrade within a reasonable price range for 2-3 years.  Idles at 3W, going to have to see that to believe it but if so holy poo poo awesome.
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Definitely getting either 1 of the 7970s or dual 7950s, whatever ends up being the best price point below $600, can't wait!
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loving hell I wish AMD could license CUDA from Nvidia.
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Gunjin posted:loving hell I wish AMD could license CUDA from Nvidia. They don't even need to, their GPGPU is great with OpenCL (better than nVidia's). Though the real problem is api penetration, nVidia's pushed into that market with a lot of money that AMD/ATI can't match.
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Agreed posted:They don't even need to, their GPGPU is great with OpenCL (better than nVidia's). Though the real problem is api penetration, nVidia's pushed into that market with a lot of money that AMD/ATI can't match. That's the rub, their stuff might be better, but everything I need uses CUDA. Adobe Creative Suite, DaVinci Resolve.
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Gunjin posted:That's the rub, their stuff might be better, but everything I need uses CUDA. Adobe Creative Suite, DaVinci Resolve. Same here, but I hold out hope.
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My budget for a new graphics card was going to be $350-ish, so if the 7970 is within $75 or so of that, I suppose I could justify it to myself. That is, of course, assuming that the image leaked is actually real and the reviews come out well. It'll be a while before I have the cash, so I get to wait. 
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Gorilla Salsa posted:My budget for a new graphics card was going to be $350-ish, so if the 7970 is within $75 or so of that, I suppose I could justify it to myself.
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Are these likely to bring down prices on current AMD cards in the near future? I could stand to upgrade but don't need a $400+ card.
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Atomicated posted:Are these likely to bring down prices on current AMD cards in the near future?
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On the subject of Video card suffix horseshit, I think the XT suffix has to be my hands down favorite. ATI brings out the XT label for its high-end Radeons, nVidia turns around an slaps XT on it's low-end poo poo cards. Such a fantastic rear end in a top hat move, you almost have to admire it.
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Dec 16, 2011 00:28
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That's just part of the manufacturing codename, it won't actually be part of the name for the card.
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I miss the days when you could figure out how powerful a card was just by looking at the model number. Only 2-3 suffixes, and a higher number was almost always better.
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AMD has been pretty good about that within HD 5000 and HD 6000, as long as you don't try to compare them to each other. The gradations aren't regular, but a higher number does indeed mean it is better.
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Alereon posted:That's just part of the manufacturing codename, it won't actually be part of the name for the card. I'm a little confused, is this supposed to be addressed at my post? Because I wasn't referring to current cards, just what I consider the real launching point of suffix fuckery. Radeon 9800 XT vs Geforce 5600 XT, very different sorts of cards. It was just meant to be an aside, because the discussion reminded me of how amused I was by nVidia taking ATIs top-end card designation and slapping it on one of the worst pieces of poo poo they produced at the time.
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It looks like a good upgrade from my 5870, I hope we get Mac drivers for it in reasonable time.
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Q_res posted:On the subject of Video card suffix horseshit, I think the XT suffix has to be my hands down favorite. ATI brings out the XT label for its high-end Radeons, nVidia turns around an slaps XT on it's low-end poo poo cards. Such a fantastic rear end in a top hat move, you almost have to admire it. ATI doesn't actually advertise the cards with alphabet soup after the names any more. They made a decision not to in more recent years. I see your point though, in the past that's exactly what happened. On the topic of Southern Islands, though, look at that thing! 3GB VRAM. People running eyefinity setups are probably getting a little bit too excited at the moment, since there's nothing else to compete with that. That said, most people at the moment probably don't need more than 1.5~2, depending on their monitor resolution and the games they play. Maybe we could have socketable video RAM in future, as needs will differ massively from 3x 2560x1600 to the guy with a single cheap 1920x1080 screen. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 09:58 on Dec 16, 2011 |
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Does this MS patch for Bulldozers scheduling differ from the one AMD released? edit: post now with link technology http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2592546/
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HalloKitty posted:ATI doesn't actually advertise the cards with alphabet soup after the names any more. They made a decision not to in more recent years. That would help fight market segmentation I guess, but for games it's a little more stark than "larger framebuffer, problem solved" since anything but top-end cards are going to get eaten alive in the GPU department trying to feed that resolution graphically (and for desktop users, well, desktop doesn't require hardly any resources for multi-monitor, even at high resolutions).
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Do you guys think the 7970 will outperform a 5970? I'm really eager to max out Crysis 2 (I still play this online), it's somewhat playable on max settings with a 5970, but if I increase the FOV to 90, it chugs horribly.
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dud root posted:Does this MS patch for Bulldozers scheduling differ from the one AMD released? If this was going to be a problem, why didn't AMD get MS to push this out -before- the cpu launched?
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necrobobsledder posted:Jesus, 3w at idle? That's some serious power gating happening, you'd think they're more power efficient at desktop 2D than integrated chips from Intel are by now. It's like someone decided to drop in ClkEns everywhere in the design and actually properly partition it! Could be a big selling point over nvidia's entry if they can't pull of the same. (I will buy green no matter what anyways, though)
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dud root posted:Does this MS patch for Bulldozers scheduling differ from the one AMD released?
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Alereon posted:This has been pulled due to unexpected performance drops. Given how cool the 7900 cards look, I hate to be reminded that OH YEAH, AMD is in the shitter right now with nearly everything else 
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I'm really pretty excited about the Radeon 7800-series myself. While the 7900-series looks cool, it's a brand new architecture so I'd rather wait until the kinks get ironed out. The leaked specs for the 7800-series seem to be exactly what I was hoping for, a die-shrunk 6900-series with much lower power consumption (and hopefully great overclocking!).
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I'm really interested in some actual benchmarks of the 7970 on the 22nd. It should be interesting to see how it performs compared to a GTX 590, or AMD 6990. If it is significantly faster than those cards, say 15-25%, it'd be hard for me not to pick one up. I'm also particularly interested in the benchmarks at eyefinity resolutions due to my monitor setup. In any event, the 3GB of video memory alone is probably reason enough for me to upgrade from dual 1GB 5870s.
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Alereon posted:The leaked specs for the 7800-series seem to be exactly what I was hoping for, a die-shrunk 6900-series with much lower power consumption (and hopefully great overclocking!).
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Autarch Kade posted:I'm really interested in some actual benchmarks of the 7970 on the 22nd. It should be interesting to see how it performs compared to a GTX 590, or AMD 6990. If it is significantly faster than those cards, say 15-25%, it'd be hard for me not to pick one up. I'm also particularly interested in the benchmarks at eyefinity resolutions due to my monitor setup. If one card for ~$500 outperforms current top-of-the-line SLI/Crossfire by 15%-25% (and doesn't have power requirements in excess of current single GPU setups), they're not going to be able to make them fast enough to keep up with demand, but that seems almost impossible, how would they make that huge of a leap in processing power in a generation?
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Agreed posted:If one card for ~$500 outperforms current top-of-the-line SLI/Crossfire by 15%-25% (and doesn't have power requirements in excess of current single GPU setups), they're not going to be able to make them fast enough to keep up with demand, but that seems almost impossible, how would they make that huge of a leap in processing power in a generation? Yeah, it's pretty unrealistic. A guy can dream though eh? One website was claiming that the 7970 would be 30% faster than the 6970, putting it near the performance of a 6990. It's of course all speculation until the benchmarks are shown on the 22nd.
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A 6990 is essentially two core-unlocked 6950s in SLI. It's quite a bit more quick than 30% faster than a 6970. So a 7970 is still not going to directly compete with that monster even if the 30% faster thing is accurate.
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Shaocaholica posted:If this was going to be a problem, why didn't AMD get MS to push this out -before- the cpu launched? [marketing paranoia]Because if it had been out when the CPU launched, they wouldn't have been able to try to downplay the lovely benchmark results with promises of a future patch making things better[/marketing paranoia]. That or they just didn't have the weight to convince MS to push through a patch to treat their processor as a quad core with hyperthreading while simultaneously talking all about how their processor isn't just a quad core with hyperthreading.
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Just got wind of some Black edition APUs. I'm not really sure what to make of it though. As I recall, you could technically overclock the CPU of the normal ones, but it limited the GPU's allotted portion of the TDP. Overclocking the GPU was weird, and didn't seem to show improvements. Fake edit: found the Anandtech link: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4478/asrock-a75-extreme6-review-and-desktop-llano-overclocking/4. If these work differently, and you can overclock the CPU and GPU, without sacrificing one or the other, they might be worth considering for very low budget systems.
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