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I am not a book posted:^^^ "You ignorant oval office". You are mad mad mad about melted sand. Have you considered alcohol and/or sex? ^^^ Well no, mostly it means that most people who want to buy AMD are sadly misinformed. Also I can confirm half the people who jumped on you to buy intel were diehard AMD crew people back when they were good CPUs.
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BurritoJustice posted:Maybe because this is a thread for recommending hardware that is a good purchase, you ignorant oval office. If you had come in saying "I specifically need AMD for *this* reason, irrelevant of it being worse" you would've got recommendations. Asking vaguely "what is a good AMD processor?" is going to get you recommended Intel because for the same money the Intel processors are objectively better. Jesus, how badly does your dick bleed after you jerk off with an intel processor?
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I am not a book posted:^^^ "You ignorant oval office". You are mad mad mad about melted sand. Have you considered alcohol and/or sex? ^^^ You called us all dick sucking spergs because we recommended you something which we had no reason to believe wouldn't be in your best interests, so you might in fact be a bit of an rear end in a top hat? ^^ He also posted in the Parts Picking thread, which I was referring to. Should've been more specific.
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BurritoJustice posted:You called us all dick sucking spergs because we recommended you something which we had no reason to believe wouldn't be in your best interests, so you might in fact be a bit of an rear end in a top hat? edit: oh poo poo I was wrong, sorry about that! I am not a book fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Dec 30, 2014 |
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Dec 30, 2014 04:11
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the recommendation that he go intel and stop wasting his and everyone elses time is still pretty valid
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I got an AMD FX-8300 and an MSI motherboard combo from tigerdirect for $175 a while back. It's just for virtual machines that don't do much heavy lifting so slower but a little more parallel is fine. The 8300 is around $100 usually (but is OEM packaged so you need your own heatsink), and the 8320 goes on sale for close to that regularly. Check the processor TDP before you buy, there are newer low power 95W versions of even the higher clocked 8 core models, but the older revisions are 125W and so they use more power and require more cooling. The Vishera section here lists them all with some specs except for price: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_FX_microprocessors I can't hear you guys fighting over the 80x32mm screamer fan on my 1.4ghz thunderbird.
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I am not a book posted:^^^ "You ignorant oval office". You are mad mad mad about melted sand. Have you considered alcohol and/or sex? ^^^ Do not behave in this manner, onlookers.
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Dec 30, 2014 05:33
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My Athlon II x4 640 is still good enough to play all games I want at 1080p, thanks.
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adorai posted:Jesus, how badly does your dick bleed after you jerk off with an intel processor? Not that badly since they went pinless 
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Riso posted:My Athlon II x4 640 is still good enough to play all games I want at 1080p, thanks. Likewise, but with a Phenom II 965 BE. The only problem is that there are no AM3 motherboards in an ITX form factor, so I can't repurpose this perfectly good chip into a smallish HTPC a la Silverstone ML07 and use a riser card for the GPU. It's all gotta be mid-tower sized cases turned on their sides, and that's just rubbish. Fun fact, I recommend AMD parts to people I don't like. I get to maintain the appearance of helping them, while at the same time, trapping them on AM3 and 880FX.
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I am not a book posted:If I wanted to justify myself to goons more than I had to, I'd post in E/N. OP hasn't been updated in years, and the fact that fanboys exist doesn't mean that everyone who wants to buy AMD is a 1337 haxxor.
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Rastor posted:You are being an rear end in a top hat to the people you came to for advice. If that's your usual strategy, you are without doubt an ignorant oval office. There are much better ways to get what you want, to say nothing about being a member of human society.
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I don't think you see this many dicks and cunts outside of a swingers convention. Can Intel invest in AMD to keep them going if they are worried about trust issues?
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keyvin posted:I don't think you see this many dicks and cunts outside of a swingers convention. They could just say we are still feeling very sorry we shafted you big time in the past and hand them another few billion as a good will gesture.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Likewise, but with a Phenom II 965 BE. The only problem is that there are no AM3 motherboards in an ITX form factor, so I can't repurpose this perfectly good chip into a smallish HTPC a la Silverstone ML07 and use a riser card for the GPU. It's all gotta be mid-tower sized cases turned on their sides, and that's just rubbish. My phenom II 965 BE would still be good enough. I upgraded because I wanted a PC that I could play SCII 4x4 games on - then lost interest without ever playing a single multiplayer game. What makes it even dumber is I realized games are a colossal waste of time. I fire DosBox or Civ 4 up from time to time and that is about it. Without gaming I'm expecting an Ivy 3750 to last for about 8 years if I never upgrade from Windows 8. At least my parents have a really overpowered and loud web browsing PC. When will AMD update their roadmap? I'm going back to school to get my masters. I am interested in HSA programming techniques as a potential thesis. Realized I just need a cheap mobo + processor + case. I have an old micro ATX power supply, a sata laptop HD, and I can borrow RAM and a cd drive from my PC. Looks like I can do that for like $130. SYSV Fanfic fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Dec 30, 2014 |
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Menacer posted:i have an in-order commitment to interrupting your bullshit and explaining your faults. no exceptions. keyvin posted:Can Intel invest in AMD to keep them going if they are worried about trust issues?
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Dec 30, 2014 16:54
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keyvin posted:When will AMD update their roadmap? I would assume some time in February. The confluence of a shift to HBM products, potential announcement of the 300-series of GPUs, shift to 20nm process in 2015, and the scheduled investor relations conference are probably a good sign. They've been hinting that we might not see any 16nm FinFET products until 2016, though.
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Riso posted:My Athlon II x4 640 is still good enough to play all games I want at 1080p, thanks. Phenom II X2 and a Radeon 6850 I got cheap because my 9600 GT died. Just ran the Tomb Raider benchmark at normal settings with SSAO and got 79 fps min, 120 max. The first game that I was interested in and couldn't play was DA: Inquisition a month ago. Was this the last good CPU AMD made 5 years ago that y'all are referring to?
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sauer kraut posted:Phenom II X2 and a Radeon 6850 I got cheap because my 9600 GT died. I wouldn't say that specific processor, but yeah, I feel like it's been all downhill since the Phenom II quad-cores.
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The Phenom II X6 1100T was AMD's last hurrah on the high end, it was pretty competitive with the high end Nehalmen Intel's at the time, but once Sandy Bridge came out it was pretty much all over for AMD as a performance desktop option.
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Beautiful Ninja posted:The Phenom II X6 1100T was AMD's last hurrah on the high end, it was pretty competitive with the high end Nehalmen Intel's at the time, but once Sandy Bridge came out it was pretty much all over for AMD as a performance desktop option. It was a double whammy: Sandy Bridge had incredible performance, and AMD's new architecture had deep fundamental problems that meant it was 2 years before they produced another CPU as fast as the Phenom II 965. You can't afford to come out with a new product that is worse than your old product in this business. AMD had some really cool niche products creep out too, like the E-350 CPUs that were in netbooks ~ 2010 and 2011. Way better experience than an Atom for the same price and battery life.
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JawnV6 posted:fault handler not found, check ur if flag mask let's get real here. step out of the ring -- no protection, no supervision. you're consistently on the wrong path and should unconditionally surrender.
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Menacer posted:seems like i've jmpd you into a loop. you've mispredicted your branch and are in need of a parity check Makes a little more sense this way. SYSV Fanfic fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Dec 31, 2014 |
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Beautiful Ninja posted:The Phenom II X6 1100T was AMD's last hurrah on the high end... Yep, still using mine.  The most recent machine I bought with an AMD chip in it was because I wanted an integrated Radeon GPU. The A4-1200 sucks, but it sucked less than comparable (~4W TDP) Atoms in the graphics department.
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keyvin posted:Can Intel invest in AMD to keep them going if they are worried about trust issues? Even when they do gently caress up colossally these mega corps are often shielded from much or even any sort of legal action and even if found guilty and fined often have their fines drastically reduced at a later date like BP did with the Deepwater Horizon oil spills or any of the banks and the robosigning scandals. Anti trust is a dead issue in this day and age and I don't know why it keeps being brought up as a serious issue anymore.
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:The anti trust issue thing is a old holdover fear from the 80's/early 90's. As the mega mergers between banks, telecomm, and media companies have shown in the last 10-15 yr if the company is big enough it doesn't have anything to worry about anymore as far as anti trust regulation goes. The regulators are all too willing to look the other way or even help companies get around the rules or rewrite them if necessary. It should be noted: Fines are also tax deductible.
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I didn't know that. Should've suspected that though.
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:I didn't know that. Newsweek ran an article on the problems with fining big banks being pointless regardless of how big or small the fines are. http://www.newsweek.com/2014/11/07/giant-penalties-are-giant-tax-write-offs-wall-street-279993.html
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NullPtr4Lunch posted:Yep, still using mine. Can you tell me a game/software where you are GPU-bound instead of CPU? I think currently Spintires is the only game I have that meets the description. Silvermont Atoms have Ivy Bridge GPU slice(1/4 of the HD4000) and it's a pretty good performer TDP/SDP considered. I would've taken some higher-end Mullins SoC notebook if there were any available in 10.1" form but thanks to Intel giving out Atom designs for free to OEMs you can't choose AMD there either.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:It should be noted: Fines are also tax deductible. That... defeats the entire point of fines. Which is the point, I guess.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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SwissArmyDruid posted:It should be noted: Fines are also tax deductible. I don't know why this is horrible and shocking but it is. Jesus loving christ, they run the tables on us so easily.
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Some lawyer argued that: * Business liabilities are tax deductible. * Fines are a business liability. * Ergo, fines are tax deductible. Under the letter of the law this makes complete sense. Under the spirit of the law... 
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Some lawyer argued that: Yeah, it makes perfect sense, but in the same way that I would totally understand why a mountain lion was killing me. Predatory as fuuuuuck.
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blowfish posted:That... defeats the entire point of fines. Which is the point, I guess. Well, technically, it defeats 35% of the point of fines. Assuming your corporation actually shows profits.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Some lawyer argued that: Nah, under the letter of the law this is illegal; congress made fines not deductible in 1969. Restitution isn't considered a fine however and settlements are sometimes ambiguous about what amount of them is legally a fine. There are teams of lawyers arguing over just how much of anything counts as a fine and minimizing that amount.
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Does anyone know of a good pound-for-pound comparison between the A10-5700 and the A10-7800? I'm trying to weigh the value of upgrading my APU/mobo, all else being equal. I don't feel like paying $250 if I'm not getting a notable performance boost (gaming).
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evensevenone posted:Well, technically, it defeats 35% of the point of fines. Assuming your corporation actually shows profits. As if any bank has a 35% effective tax rate.
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Lord Dudeguy posted:Does anyone know of a good pound-for-pound comparison between the A10-5700 and the A10-7800? I'm trying to weigh the value of upgrading my APU/mobo, all else being equal. I don't feel like paying $250 if I'm not getting a notable performance boost (gaming). I think this is the closest comparison. All games in the benches have used iGPU though.
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Lord Dudeguy posted:Does anyone know of a good pound-for-pound comparison between the A10-5700 and the A10-7800? I'm trying to weigh the value of upgrading my APU/mobo, all else being equal. I don't feel like paying $250 if I'm not getting a notable performance boost (gaming). http://www.anandtech.com/show/7677/amd-kaveri-review-a8-7600-a10-7850k All the non-mobile AMD stuff is within 10..15% of each other, even if they're 2 generations or any model number apart. Read a few pages in to see how badly they got destroyed by ancient i5's. sauer kraut fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Jan 3, 2015 |
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Rosoboronexport posted:I think this is the closest comparison. All games in the benches have used iGPU though. That's exactly what I was looking for. My case can't fit a proper discrete GPU, and the power supply certainly couldn't handle it, which is why I went with an A10. sauer kraut posted:http://www.anandtech.com/show/7677/amd-kaveri-review-a8-7600-a10-7850k Yeah a 10% bump for $250 (A10-7800 & FM2+ miniATX mobo) probably won't fit the bill. I'll wait for the 8000s. Hopefully they still make a 65w TDP version. Thanks for the links! Lord Dudeguy fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Jan 4, 2015 |
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