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Mr. Nice! posted:Pancrase was worked more often than not. how dare you imply that my bas rutten self defense tapes have not adequately prepared me to dang da dang da dang an attacker on the street
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Mr. Nice! posted:Pancrase was worked more often than not. also good to note
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Schenck v. U.S. posted:In addition I think elbows are very seldom used in sparring because it's difficult to practice them safely (you don't want to slice up your sparring partner's face), so most fighters don't have a lot of practice either throwing or defending against elbows. quote:Also MMA fights frequently go to positions on the ground or in the clinch where the distance is too close to punch effectively, while elbows can be throw effectively in very short distances.
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kimbo305 posted:Agreed -- you see some gyms (mine included) having students using elbow pads and headgear, but people are generally too ginger with elbows to tune those strikes to fight-ready. Here is the best example by the best ever for the uninitiated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70YMVPb3IWo
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Captain Log posted:Here is the best example by the best ever for the uninitiated. Anderson saw that elbow in one of the Ong Bak movies and told his coaches he wanted to learn it but they absolutely refused, so he practiced it at home on his wife holding couch pillows
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chaleski posted:Anderson saw that elbow in one of the Ong Bak movies and told his coaches he wanted to learn it but they absolutely refused, so he practiced it at home on his wife holding couch pillows I was going to add that and forgot - thanks!
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Mr. Nice! posted:Pancrase was worked more often than not. There were worked fights but I don't think there's any evidence bas rutten fights were rigged, and they certainly didn't look like it. Bas was legit really good.
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He expended too much energy and got tired
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Dangersim posted:There were worked fights but I don't think there's any evidence bas rutten fights were rigged, and they certainly didn't look like it. Bas was legit really good. Its one of those things. Because some fights were worked its hard to give all of them credibility. There were definitely a lot of stoppages bas pulled off where someone got hosed up whether or not they were taking a dive. Either way bas was legit in his day.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Pancrase was worked more often than not. Here's a question; how much of this was "this is the guy who's winning because Yakuza money says he has to" and how much of it was "go out there and put on a super good show, even if that means doing things that wouldn't be the best move for a fight-fight type fight because the crowd of Yakuza heavies wants blood and guts"? Some of both?
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There weren't even rumours of Yakuza involvement in pancrase iirc. It wasn't fixed fights, it was sometimes pro wrestling and sometimes real fights
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Pride, on the other hand...
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Bluedeanie posted:Pride, on the other hand... Only Space Jesus knows if certain fights were fixed.
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I decided to skip this weeks longest running wrassling entertainment program as I've been working/ playing persona 5. Glad to hear that ma boy "Da Bigga Dawg" Strowman is kicking tale. But I have an important question to ask. Has Nakamura killed Dolph Ziggles in the ring yet? As i like Nakamaura and Ziggles bores me. Also where's the naked Cena gif from?
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This is the combat sports q&a thread. It's for questions about combat sports. Here's a link to a q&a thread for fake and gay things like naked Cenas and Ziggles: https://forums.somethingawful.com/s...hreadid=3180956
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Chillanese posted:This is the combat sports q&a thread. It's for questions about combat sports. Do what now?
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Captain Log posted:Do what now? It's just my way of saying that this is the thread for asking why real fights are boring. The other thread is for asking questions about imaginary things that bore you like Ziggles. They should sticky the other one too so it's less confusing. e; hey jake ellenbe, i mean Captain Log, wouldn't it be cool to see the very real death of rudolpho jiggler, who's fully recovered and annoying as ever the following week? wouldn't that be cool in real life? wait why are you looking at me like that? what's wrong? Chillanese fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Apr 23, 2017 |
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I'm sure this has been asked, but what's the history behind the names of some of the classes, like Flyweight, Bantamweight, Welterweight and Featherweight? I've done some cursory research, but never found a good explanation.
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flyweight - the minimum size a fighter has to be to not get scared that a buzzing fly will carry him away bantamweight - bantam chickens are smaller than average. these fighters can easily be shoved inside an egg featherweight - a sack of feathers is twice as heavy as a featherweight welterweight - a corruption of Walterweight, these fighters are the same size as prime Walter Matthau
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LobsterMobster posted:flyweight - the minimum size a fighter has to be to not get scared that a buzzing fly will carry him away Checks out. Also Atomweight is actually named for forums poster -Atom-, whose posts have little substance. Cruiserweight is a reference to certain shenanigans which happen in highway rest stops, as this division has the largest lean muscley men.
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Hello friends, I'm looking for some good MMA fights between a submission expert and stand up guy. I understand that people are more well rounded than that, but I'd like some fights that essentially devolve into the dichotomy. Could anyone help out?
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Your Personal Muse posted:Hello friends, Demian Maia vs Carlos Condit Anderson Silva vs Chael Sonnen
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Your Personal Muse posted:Hello friends, Robert Whittaker vs Jacare Souza would be a good example of this. Demian Maia vs Carlos Condit also. Oh and Fabricio Werdum vs Alistair Overeem.
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Your Personal Muse posted:Hello friends, fedor vs big nog, i think either of the fights that went to a decision happened in similar ways but im not sure. but at least one of them was very good. assuming u want close fights and not 1 or the other winning in minutes which is generally how fights seem to go between specialists
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oh and my favourite fight ryo chonan vs anderson silva. although theyre both reasonably well rounded fighters
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Minotauro Nogueria vs Dave Herman, if only to see Herman eat his words on how "Jiu Jitsu doesn't work" when he's submitted.
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I.N.R.I posted:fedor vs big nog, i think either of the fights that went to a decision happened in similar ways but im not sure. but at least one of them was very good. assuming u want close fights and not 1 or the other winning in minutes which is generally how fights seem to go between specialists those are both grapplers inri
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coleman v maurice smith is prob the highest level single discipline thing youre going to find. colemans a maximum talent wrester, and maurice smith is a world class kickboxer, Dunno if "good" would describe it
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Jake Ellenberger v John Howard is a great grappler v striker fight thats actually good, although both guys have some tools in other areas. And the fight actually is amazing and you get to see both guys do a lot of damage in their area
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Your Personal Muse posted:Hello friends, Cro Cop vs Big Nog Joke answer: Anderson Silva vs Demian Maia
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Bundt Cake posted:those are both grapplers inri well yeah but dont u think that the fight was very much striking vs grappling? at least the one i know which is where noguiera was constantly trying to submit fedor from guard while fedor was defending and trying to knock him out
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I.N.R.I posted:well yeah but dont u think that the fight was very much striking vs grappling? at least the one i know which is where noguiera was constantly trying to submit fedor from guard while fedor was defending and trying to knock him out Striking as in kickboxing, not ground and pound. If Fedor was a striker he wouldn't have taken Nog down a bunch.
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I.N.R.I posted:well yeah but dont u think that the fight was very much striking vs grappling? at least the one i know which is where noguiera was constantly trying to submit fedor from guard while fedor was defending and trying to knock him out on the ground id have to agree yah. counting the landed punches by fedor is interesting. people come back with varying numbers. its been a real long time but IIRC the other decision loss, where nog supposedly fought injured, fedor kept it standing. I remember it as kind of a lame fight because for some reason the second fight, where there was a cut from a headbutt, I thought Nog looked really sharp. Not sure why I thought that or if I was crazy, haven't seen in in ages.
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The best striking vs grappling battle was Maia vs Marquardt.
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Which are the must see Pride Events from back in the day? Got a friend who doesn't use the Internet to watch things and he wants to order them on DVD but only the good ones.
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Pride 10 is my favourite It has a bit of everything that made Pride great.
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I don't know the numbers but the series of Sakuraba fights with various Gracies was great. Mark Kerr's various fights tell a story. Vanderei Silva and Fedor's fights of course. The GP tournaments were good too. There was some funny commentary on the early ones where they recorded the commentary months after the event - one where Bas Rutten spoiled the result of the fight he was supposedly about to call 'live'. Most of this is remembered from watching them back then, some may not have aged well!
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willie_dee posted:Which are the must see Pride Events from back in the day? Got a friend who doesn't use the Internet to watch things and he wants to order them on DVD but only the good ones. PRIDE: Bushido 9: The Tournament is a fantastic event.
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PRIDE Final Conflict 2005 has Fedor vs Crocop and the end of the incredible middleweight GP.
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Pocket Billiards posted:Pride 10 is my favourite It has a bit of everything that made Pride great. 10s the first good one
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