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Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013
It's not like wearing OCPs make one of the most important generals in the world any more recognizable or notable

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Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

Brown Moses posted:

ISIS had a social media campaign encouraging supporters to tweet images of support, so they did, and we geolocated a bunch

https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/734130893925801984
https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/734131001551663105
https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/734131111618617344
https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/734131237183492098

Local police forces have been informed.

Were there a lot of these?

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Kurtofan posted:

Were there a lot of these?

Quite a few, a lot weren't as dumb as the guys above though.

ass struggle
Dec 25, 2012

by Athanatos
I like that the guy in Paris seems to be taking a picture directly out of his apartment window.

Can't see that backfiring.

Svartvit
Jun 18, 2005

al-Qabila samaa Bahth
*edit* I'm dumb

Young Freud
Nov 25, 2006

slavatuvs posted:

I like that the guy in Paris seems to be taking a picture directly out of his apartment window.

Can't see that backfiring.

I can't see Paris ISIStard as anything but a troll. The Arabic handwriting looks super sloppy, like it's from someone who doesn't normally write in that language. Also, I can't tell what the second tag is supposed to be, since it doesn't match any of the spelling of any of the the hashtags used in the other snapshots.

Dodoman
Feb 26, 2009



A moment of laxity
A lifetime of regret
Lipstick Apathy
It says #paris if my schoolboy arabic skills are right.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

Kurtofan posted:

Were there a lot of these?

Maybe if twenty people quote all the images over and over again it will seem like more.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Dodoman posted:

It says #paris if my schoolboy arabic skills are right.

As best it could be with no P in arabic I suppose.

Svartvit
Jun 18, 2005

al-Qabila samaa Bahth
They all say Paris, Germany, Holland etc.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.

Mozi posted:

Maybe if twenty people quote all the images over and over again it will seem like more.

I really wish the forums Twitter tags had something like the Image tags do, where they automatically turn all img into timg when they're quoted.

Haystack
Jan 23, 2005





Dapper_Swindler posted:

thats not disconcerting at all. gonna sound trumpist, but it makes you wander how many dumb kids are willing to fight for them or do overseas shooting/bombings for them.

Extremely few, actually. It turns out that people are actually quite unwilling to murder large groups of people from where they grew up. "Overseas" attacks are usually either locals persuing domestic grudges using a jihadist pretext (San Bernardino), disaffected hardened local criminals striking out (Paris), or foreigners blowing up ideological enemies (9-11).

Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009

When ISIS blew up the Egyptair flight earlier this year, how long did it take for them to claim responsibility? I find it odd that no one has yet claimed responsibility for the latest downing. I think it lends credence to the crash being caused by something else, like mechanical failure or maybe the pilot downed it intentionally. Speaking of which, didn't a pilot intentionally crash an Egyptair flight like 10 years ago?

Mystery Goomba
Jun 4, 2011

Charliegrs posted:

Speaking of which, didn't a pilot intentionally crash an Egyptair flight like 10 years ago?

Yep.

Lascivious Sloth
Apr 26, 2008

by sebmojo
Operations by ISF to take back Fallujah from Daesh has begun. Interesting, given the Sadr protests. I wonder if this is a premature distraction from what is happening in Baghdad. I hope they planned this out.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

Charliegrs posted:

When ISIS blew up the Egyptair flight earlier this year, how long did it take for them to claim responsibility? I find it odd that no one has yet claimed responsibility for the latest downing. I think it lends credence to the crash being caused by something else, like mechanical failure or maybe the pilot downed it intentionally. Speaking of which, didn't a pilot intentionally crash an Egyptair flight like 10 years ago?

They claimed responsibility within a day or so, it was within maybe 36 hours.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

NikkolasKing posted:

I've always been very critical of Germany's anti-free speech policies. But I was thinking now it might finally be a good thing.

Then some people elsewhere told me that the laws are only against nationalists and racists so...is there anything they can do against the first moron?

Just clarify Wahabism as not being a religion. Then declare it a hate group.

ecureuilmatrix
Mar 30, 2011

Lascivious Sloth posted:

Operations by ISF to take back Fallujah from Daesh has begun. Interesting, given the Sadr protests. I wonder if this is a premature distraction from what is happening in Baghdad. I hope they planned this out.

That's how it looks now, according to Islamic World News:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/dvd1itn1dho45zq/22may2016.jpg

I guess they want to clear out all the Daesh strongholds in the south before concentrating all firepower on Mosul?



Also, extra maps!

A rewind of the back and forth in Northern Aleppo, and it's not looking good for the rebels:
http://imgur.com/1naF4jp

PetoLucem's latest on DeZ, looking precarious:
https://imgur.com/0xQlCdp

Remember Shingal?

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/734448089604468737

more like dICK
Feb 14, 2010

This is inevitable.
Reading that there may have been a failed coup in Damascus? Just twitter so far.

Emanuel Collective
Jan 16, 2008

by Smythe
‏@CombatChris1 60 minutes ago
#Damascus : Rumors that ten SAA officers were killed and eight others arrested after a failed coup attempt at the Presidential Palace.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
Bummer.

Zeta Niloticus
Nov 6, 2007


On the other hand the word for years was that the officers were too afraid/tied to Assad to attempt a coup. If things have changed to the point where they aren't, poo poo's about to get interesting really quick.

axelord
Dec 28, 2012

College Slice

RZApublican posted:

On the other hand the word for years was that the officers were too afraid/tied to Assad to attempt a coup. If things have changed to the point where they aren't, poo poo's about to get interesting really quick.

Could easily be a purge of officers the regime was afraid of instead of a coup attempt though. It's probably impossible to know for sure.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Still all of one tweet on the subject.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

by HopperUK

Emanuel Collective posted:

‏@CombatChris1 60 minutes ago
#Damascus : Rumors that ten SAA officers were killed and eight others arrested after a failed coup attempt at the Presidential Palace.

interesting. must be very bad inside the assad camp if coups are being hatched .kinda hope Assad goes full Stalin and starts mass purges. that might gently caress up his military strength maybe cause defections.

fade5
May 31, 2012

by exmarx
SDF released another video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UzSmM-5lr0

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless



"please don't, we have literally nothing else to hang our hat on."

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
Commander of the IRGC-QF Qassem Soleimani at the Fallujah operations room, meeting with some of the most powerful Iranian agents in the country.



Some of those pictured are as follows

Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis: Effectively military commander of the Hashd/PMU. Convicted and sentenced to death in absentia for his part in the 1983 Kuwait bombings (related to this is another Iranian agent - Lebanese Hezbollah's Mustaffa Badreddine who was very recently murked in Syria). Fought for Iran as part of the Badr Brigade during the Iran-Iraq war. With the help of the Qods Force built Kata'ib Hezbollah, a rabidly sectarian Shia milita and US-designated Foreign Terrorist Organisation that wants to export the Khomeinist ideology of Absolute Wilayat al-Faqih to Iraq (effectively, this means establish a Shia theocracy in Iraq with the Iranian clerical establishment at its head). KH have been active in Syria fighting under IRGC command against the Opposition forces there.

Akram al Kaabi: Leader of Harakat Hezbollah al-Nujaba. Openly talks about how he and his group see Khamenei as their authority and who they take guidance from, and that they would coup the Iraqi government if told to do so. Also Khomeinist in ideology like KH. Basically just read this article. Also have been heavily involved in the Aleppo area in Syria, again under IRGC leadership. Here is a picture of Soleimani with HHN fighters following a victory at the apex of the IRGC offensive in South Aleppo.

Hadi al-Amiri: Current President of the Iranian-controlled Badr Organisation, fought for Iran in the Badr Brigade during the Iran-Iraq war. Chums with Soleimani and al-Muhandis. This group was probably the most significant single player in the whole "Shia death squads" thing during the Coalition occupation, in no small part to the fact that Badr figures often end up in powerful political positions. An example is the previous Badr president Baqir Jabr Al-Zubeidi who held several ministerial posts, including a stint as Interior Minister. This Ministry was/is in charge of many state paramilitary forces such as the Federal Police, the counter-insurgency units (such as the infamous Wolf Brigade), as well as border enforcement.

I think it's also worth noting that on top of most of the big players in the Hashd (both individuals and militia groups) effectively being extensions of the IRGC, the overall Hashd/PMU itself is in fact part of the Interior Ministry and not the Ministry of Defence, and that the current Interior Minister in charge is a member of Badr last I remember.

Radio Prune fucked around with this message at 03:31 on May 24, 2016

fade5
May 31, 2012

by exmarx
Interesting article on the SDF, released now that Votel's visit is over:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...2c91_story.html

quote:

The raw Sunni recruits in crisp camouflage uniforms, popping off rounds at the firing range at a U.S. training camp here, illustrate the dilemma for the United States as it seeks to form a strong military force to drive the Islamic State from its capital, Raqqah.

The United States could try to build the Sunni army it would want, ideally, to capture Raqqah, a Sunni city. But that might take years. Or it can go with the army it has, which is dominated by the tough, experienced Kurdish fighters from the YPG militia. They’re anathema to Turkey, to the north, and to the official Syrian political opposition. But the rampaging Syrian Kurds get the job done.

The United States is trying to do some of both, by building a new opposition coalition under the makeshift banner of the “Syrian Democratic Forces,” or SDF, which integrates Sunnis, Christians, Turkmen and other inexperienced fighters with the larger, powerhouse that is the YPG. That’s not ideal politically but it makes military sense.

“We do, absolutely, have to go with what we’ve got,” says Gen. Joseph Votel, the Centcom commander who oversees the war here, at the end of a long Saturday spent touring SDF bases. A small group of reporters was on the trip on condition that we couldn’t write about it until we had left the country. It was a rare chance to report from inside Syria.

The practical reality is that only the Kurds — not the Sunnis — have the muscle now, and Votel’s job is “to achieve military objectives on the ground” by continuing to roll back the Islamic State.

This attempt to integrate the weaker Sunnis with stronger Kurds represents a more pragmatic alternative to the earlier $500 million “train and equip” program, which had been intended to create, in effect, a new Sunni-dominated army, but collapsed last summer. Despite bitter objections from Turkey (which claims the Kurds are part of the “terrorist” PKK), U.S. commanders decided to go with the battle-hardened Kurdish fighters who had savaged the Islamic State in Kobani in 2014 and began to liberate a big swath of northeast Syria. Starting last October, they tried to graft less-experienced Sunni and Christian forces into the SDF coalition.

The Syrian Kurds are ferocious fighters, men and women alike. We met several leaders of the Kurdish women’s militia, called the YPJ. Wearing beaded headdresses over military camouflage, they said they had all fought in front-line combat. U.S. advisers say the Kurdish women are so tough they sometimes go into battle with suicide belts so they won’t be captured by Islamic State fighters who would turn them into sex slaves.

American advisers tell awe-struck stories of YPJ warriors who fought to the last woman in Kobani. The equality of male-female sacrifice, proclaimed on billboards in Kurdish regions, is a breath of fresh air in a Middle East where women’s rights are suppressed.

Votel says the United States has learned from earlier Syrian missteps not to try to build a perfect force, but to work with the allies it has. When adding recruits to the SDF, he says, “we had to shorten the training period, and focus it more on combat basics,” adapting to the forces that existed rather than trying to remake them.

Sunni sheikhs, always opportunistic, seem to be buying into the strategy as their best hope against the Islamic State. We met three such leaders who are sending their young tribesmen to fight with the Kurdish-led group. The sheikhs described how some members of their tribes around Raqqah are beginning to defect from the Islamic State — and pleading for relief from the barbarous extremists.

“We found that the YPG is the only force that can liberate us,” says Sheikh Mohammed al-Mila of the Tufaiha tribe. A similar view is expressed by Kino Gabriel, a local Syriac Christian leader whose small militia of 500 to 1,000 has allied with the Kurds. The alternative, he says, was “a lose-lose situation for all of us. None of us could defend the area by ourselves.”


Here, at least, the United States can’t be accused of trying to build Switzerland in the Middle East. It’s raw realpolitik, and sometimes the pieces don’t fit. Nujin Dirik, the commander of the Kurdish women’s militia, says she’s fighting for a place the Kurds call “Rojava,” which they hope will be an autonomous region someday. But Col. Ali Hajo, an SDF Arab commander from the northern town of Jarablus, says he’s fighting for a nation called Syria.

The strategy has an unstated theme: Destroy the Islamic State now; worry about the future of Syria later.

fade5 fucked around with this message at 03:49 on May 24, 2016

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

fade5 posted:

Interesting article on the SDF, released now that Votel's visit is over:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...2c91_story.html

Is there any shadow of a chance that the Syrian Kurds could come out of this with anything resembling Rojava? I mean they go to the proverbial bargaining table having shouldered a hell of a lot of bloodshed for their homeland but given how consistently everyone has decided "gently caress the Kurds" in the past is this supposed to be any different this time?

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

Wasn't there a rumor Qassem Soleimani got blasted somewhere in Syria? He looks alright in the pic, guess if he did get injured it wasn't too bad.

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Squalid posted:

Wasn't there a rumor Qassem Soleimani got blasted somewhere in Syria? He looks alright in the pic, guess if he did get injured it wasn't too bad.

Yeah and lending some credence to the rumor Iran threw a bizarrely homoerotic pageant in his honor afterwords. He dipped out for a while after that happened it seems

e: iran strong

Homura and Sickle fucked around with this message at 04:11 on May 24, 2016

ass struggle
Dec 25, 2012

by Athanatos
It appears that an airbase used by Russian forces near Palmyra has been almost completely destroyed in an IS attack.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-36366664

ISIS claimed this attack a week ago, allegedly blowing up several aircraft and supply depots.

It appears that 4 Mi-24s and one MiG-25 were destroyed in the attack, along with dozens of supply trucks.

Seems likely to me that Russia is attempting to keep a massive loss of equipment and, potentially, manpower under wraps.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

fade5 posted:

Interesting article on the SDF, released now that Votel's visit is over:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...2c91_story.html

quote:

 U.S. advisers say the Kurdish women are so tough they sometimes go into battle with suicide belts so they won’t be captured by Islamic State fighters who would turn them into sex slaves. 

This sounds like a Command & Conquer unit. Hard loving core.

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

slavatuvs posted:

It appears that an airbase used by Russian forces near Palmyra has been almost completely destroyed in an IS attack.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-36366664

ISIS claimed this attack a week ago, allegedly blowing up several aircraft and supply depots.

It appears that 4 Mi-24s and one MiG-25 were destroyed in the attack, along with dozens of supply trucks.

Seems likely to me that Russia is attempting to keep a massive loss of equipment and, potentially, manpower under wraps.

Jesus, that's an expensive one.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Looks like the Raqqa offensive is beginning.

https://twitter.com/allansorensen72/status/735096397352075267

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/735095658835812352

fade5
May 31, 2012

by exmarx

FAUXTON posted:

Is there any shadow of a chance that the Syrian Kurds could come out of this with anything resembling Rojava? I mean they go to the proverbial bargaining table having shouldered a hell of a lot of bloodshed for their homeland but given how consistently everyone has decided "gently caress the Kurds" in the past is this supposed to be any different this time?
That's part of why they're courting Russia's support as well as US support. Putin has Assad by the balls (as seen in that recent peace treaty between the the SAA and the Kurds) and the longer Assad/the SAA bleeds out trying to retake rebel areas, the weaker the SAA is in the future. If the Kurds/SDF can get a solid relationship with Russia going, then Assad may not be able to attack Rojava because he'd have to go it alone without Russian or Iranian help.

In addition, that article noted that the US seems to have decided to work with the ground forces we've got, rather than trying to create a (Sunni Arab) army from scratch. That means the US is going to be looking at the SDF as a more long-term ally, since they're the only real force in Syria we've got now. (There's also the NSyA and various TOW-vetted groups, but they can't really make large advances like the SDF has done.)

Blue Footed Booby posted:

This sounds like a Command & Conquer unit. Hard loving core.
I 100% understand their logic with that one; death would be vastly preferable to being captured by ISIL and being made a sex slave.:smithicide:

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

fade5 posted:

...

I 100% understand their logic with that one; death would be vastly preferable to being captured by ISIL and being made a sex slave.:smithicide:

Absolutely, but this is a bit more :black101: than a backup pistol with one bullet.

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Thug Lessons
Dec 13, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

Blue Footed Booby posted:

Absolutely, but this is a bit more :black101: than a backup pistol with one bullet.

It's more a martyrdom thing. Not very heroic to just shoot yourself.

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