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uncleKitchener posted:Being an ethnic minority in the middle east is hard enough. In the case of Turkey, Kurdish identity/language has been under constant attack for generations. There is no middle ground for Turkish nationalists. Really the best case scenario is probably the present, at least the Kurds right now have a fighting chance.
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Panzeh posted:If you're gonna fight, you better fight for something, and why would you trust corrupt outside governments who are more than likely to cooperate with the genocidal Ottomans? Are there outside governments active in Syria/Iraq who aren't likely to cooperate with the genocidal Ottomans? I doubt the Kurds are putting too much trust in any foreign government at this point
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Syria's getting pounded. At least 15-20 aircraft have taken off on strike missions in the past hour.
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Throatwarbler posted:Russia Kurdistan friends forever #prettyPhoto 
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icantfindaname posted:Until Turkey invades and annexes northern Iraq and Syria, that is A Turkish annexation of Mosul is the only way to prevent the genocide of Sunnis that is about to be committed. Give Mosul back to the Shi'tte and this war will never end.
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SDF just announced the beginning of the operation to take back Raqqa.
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Dusty Baker 2 posted:SDF just announced the beginning of the operation to take back Raqqa. Gonna laugh real loving hard if all the postering and announcements about the planned assault on Mosul was a honeypot to lure Daesh forces away from Raqqa.
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https://twitter.com/LaramieShubber/status/795217105801084928 Edit: didn't refresh before posting
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1stGear posted:Gonna laugh real loving hard if all the postering and announcements about the planned assault on Mosul was a honeypot to lure Daesh forces away from Raqqa. There are 100k coalition troops retaking Mosul and the rest of Nineveh province at this exact second. There's no "planned" anymore, they're literally storming the city right now. Mosul was always a much more important target
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1stGear posted:Gonna laugh real loving hard if all the postering and announcements about the planned assault on Mosul was a honeypot to lure Daesh forces away from Raqqa. Turns out the Soviets were just fighting on the Eastern Front to lure the Nazis away from France.
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1stGear posted:Gonna laugh real loving hard if all the postering and announcements about the planned assault on Mosul was a honeypot to lure Daesh forces away from Raqqa. ISF are literally inside Mosul city already within two weeks. The south is being taken steadily, and the eastern front is taken. It's over for Mosul, even if it takes some time to take Western suburbs of the city, the place is done for, and the offensive has the 'hearts and minds' already won. Shia Hashd have already started working towards Telafar to cut off the western route, and obvious Sinjar is taken. So I have no idea what you mean by this postering, hah. Raqqa is simply perfectly timed to take political and military gain off the momentum of the Mosul offensive thus far.
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The timing probably has a lot to do with the negotiations and infighting between Turkey and the US too. I don't know if the crackdown inside Turkey pushed the US to decide they're not a reliable partner or if Erdogan realized the US was drifting away either way and decided he didn't care what we thought anymore, but I find it hard to believe there's no connection between Erdogan going full dictator and us putting an end to his plan to be the one in charge of the Raqqa operation.
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Syrian soldiers with STuG III.
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Lascivious Sloth posted:ISF are literally inside Mosul city already within two weeks. The south is being taken steadily, and the eastern front is taken. It's over for Mosul, even if it takes some time to take Western suburbs of the city, the place is done for, and the offensive has the 'hearts and minds' already won. Shia Hashd have already started working towards Telafar to cut off the western route, and obvious Sinjar is taken. So I have no idea what you mean by this postering, hah. Raqqa is simply perfectly timed to take political and military gain off the momentum of the Mosul offensive thus far. "Posturing" wasn't quite the right word. I have no doubt that the Iraqis and Coalition forces intended to take Mosul. I'm referring more to how anti-ISIS forces spent a fair amount of time talking about how they were planning the assault and staging for it and it was easy to accurately estimate when the attack would come. And then out of nowhere, after Mosul has been isolated and there's no way for Daesh forces to withdraw, the Kurds say "Hey, we're attacking Raqqa, bombing begins in 5 minutes." Its just a touch amusing to me.
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rear end struggle posted:Syrian soldiers with STuG III. Wikipedia says this must be a static gun emplacement in the Golan Heights. I would be loving amazed if they got one well used soviet captured 70-75 year old nazi tank up and running for mobile fire support.
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Ah, I see the thread has seen the news. Well then: http://www.agathocledesyracuse.com/archives/851  A map of the current frontline, and if those troop numbers are accurate holy crap this offensive is gonna be enormous. http://en.hawarnews.com/who-is-taking-part-in-ghadab-al-firat-campaign/ quote:Many revolutionary and military factions comprised under SDF are majorly moving under the command of Ghadab al-Firat operations room and these factions are YPG, YPJ, liwaa Soqour al-Raqqa(Raqqa Hawks Brigade), Liwaa Shoheda al-Raqqa, Shoheda Hamam Turkman brigade, Ahrar al-Raqqa brigade, Liwaa Thuwar Til Abyad, and the Syriac Military Council. Oh yeah, and there's one other notable group involved in the "Wrath Of Euphrates": https://twitter.com/DrPartizan_/status/795284798453510145 quote:US soldiers assisting SDF in the #WrathOfEuphrates Raqqa operation against ISIS terrorists - Photos by Rodi Said. https://twitter.com/DrPartizan_/status/795308468504772610 quote:US soldiers assisting SDF in the #WrathOfEuphrates Raqqa operation against ISIS terrorists - Photos by Delil Souleiman. Final tidbit, a small advance somewhere around Tishrin to close any remaining holes: https://twitter.com/syria_rebel_obs/status/795361651021201410 quote:#SRO - EXCLUSIVE - Sarrin #SDF arab battalion entering Jubb al-Qader small village, one of last #IS remaining position near Tishreen dam. fade5 fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Nov 6, 2016 |
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rear end struggle posted:Syrian soldiers with STuG III. Wow. Okay, so the next thing you're gonna show me is a working Tiger II, right?
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uncleKitchener posted:Wow. Okay, so the next thing you're gonna show me is a working Tiger II, right? There were 20x as many STuG IIIs built.
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To be fair, there are still a bunch of T-34s out there as well. That said, if that Stug was actually working it would probably be worth far more in cash as a museum piece (which subsequently could be spent on some surplus T-72s/ATGMs).
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That StuG belongs in a museum! Wacky armor time? https://twitter.com/NorthernStork/status/794876875600437248 https://twitter.com/DrPartizan_/status/794570042591576064
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Alleged ISIS tunnel digging machine captured in Mosul 
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Squalid posted:Alleged ISIS tunnel digging machine captured in Mosul im the turkish secret agent who bet on the wrong thing
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rear end struggle posted:There were 20x as many STuG IIIs built. That's fair. They were cheaper and far more effective anyway.
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I was browsing videos and noticed this recent RT piece that appears to have @PissPigGranddad at the start, described by RT as "U.S. Personnel"? begins talking for a few seconds, right about 0:17 Those glasses were visible from the thumbnail. https://youtu.be/WSMturJbWGk
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OctaMurk posted:This seems like the strangest event of the whole war, tbh. A car bomb faked in an area that gets car bombed for real all the time? What on earth is going on? I feel like this is the premise for a mystery novel. There's a variety of Israeli blogs that would have you believe most/all Palestinian casualties due to IDF fire are actually the work of actors. They call it "Pallywood". http://www.thomaswictor.com/fake-atrocity-video-from-gaza/ ******* I've been away from news for a while, just getting back in now. I'm wondering, is there a stated plan or objective for the future of Mosul, and how it will be administered? Will Baghdad take over? What about the KDP and Iraqi Kurds in general who have claims there? How will local Sunnis be handled? Minorities like Assyrians? It seems to me that however it goes there will be a lot of people on the move; refugees returning to the city, but also maybe residents fleeing Shia militias. Moving populations has political consequences, and I wonder if/how these will be dealt with.
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Count Roland posted:I've been away from news for a while, just getting back in now. I'm wondering, is there a stated plan or objective for the future of Mosul, and how it will be administered? Supposedly Iraq is training 15-20k Sunni militiamen specifically to secure and hold the city, and Turkey has been training some too. Shia militias will never enter the city in a perfect world, but that's just the plan. Plans can change depending on how the fight goes. In general, the things you're asking are the same sorts of things everyone is asking. I don't mean that in a condescending way, as I'm including really good journalists in with "everyone," but we're all still waiting to see how this clusterfuck gets sorted in the aftermath.
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rear end struggle posted:Syrian soldiers with STuG III. The Soviet Union had so many captured STuGs that they gave some to Syria in the 1950s.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:The Soviet Union had so many captured STuGs that they gave some to Syria in the 1950s. Also some panzer IVs. A lot of them for destroyed by Israel.
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Some action footage from CNN during a battle. NSFW because a civilian is executed in the streets like a dog. :nsfw: h t t ps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-q0MIPfV_Q :nsfw: Footage from IS of the same battle. No gore. h ttp://video.jkikki.de/v/dl05112016.mp4 h ttp://video.jkikki.de/v/nd06112016.mp4
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Hadi Abdullah won an award: https://rsf.org/en/news/2016-rsf-tv5-monde-press-freedom-prize-prize-awarded-syrian-and-chinese-journalists-website
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uncleKitchener posted:Wow. Okay, so the next thing you're gonna show me is a working Tiger II, right? The blog WWII after WWII recently posted articles on both German tanks in Syria (tl;dr: that picture is not likely to be of an operational tank; Russian replaced Syria's armored divisions with soviet equipment) and WWII equipment used by Iran (they used a lot of WW2 equipment in the Iran-Iraq war).
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Peacoffee posted:I was browsing videos and noticed this recent RT piece that appears to have @PissPigGranddad at the start, described by RT as "U.S. Personnel"? begins talking for a few seconds, right about 0:17 The best bit in that video was  RT know they can take any straight faced troll/joke and play it to their audience as 100% truth. echomadman fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Nov 7, 2016 |
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Peacoffee posted:I was browsing videos and noticed this recent RT piece that appears to have @PissPigGranddad at the start, described by RT as "U.S. Personnel"? begins talking for a few seconds, right about 0:17 Haha holy poo poo that was hilarious. "Yeah I'm from America. Yeah it's important"
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Throatwarbler posted:Some action footage from CNN during a battle. NSFW because a civilian is executed in the streets like a dog. Removed the spaces because that is some legit footage. Still NSFW of course, but I recommend you check it out. I wonder which unit that was, they seem completely dumbfounded and way out of their league. Probably the footage misses a lot of poo poo but it seems like they're just wandering around without a clue, gently caress the CNN reporter at one point is basically giving them orders! Bunch of clowns
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 As per the FSA's Twitter, I made a chart of current FSA groups fighting in Aleppo. Emphasis on FSA as opposed to Jaysh al-Fatah.
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uncleKitchener posted:Wow. Okay, so the next thing you're gonna show me is a working Tiger II, right? It was hard enough to get Tiger IIs to work when they were brand new.  It's an Ausf. G, the above is an identical model captured by the Israelis. Wonder if it actually works or if it's stationary, the Syrians supposedly have some T-34s still working so it's not impossible.
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