|
CAT rear end now!!! posted:Got Civilization by FLA in the post today and listened to it on the way to work. That's got Vanished on it, right? I think that's when the melding of all of the FLA side projects really coalesced into something polished and nuanced (mature, maybe?). I'll have to dig the disc back up.
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2011 17:27
|
|
|
|
| # ? Dec 8, 2024 04:10 |
|
|
I love the lyrics on that CD. "Obliverate"? 
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2011 17:32
|
|
|
Furret Basket posted:I love the lyrics on that CD. "Obliverate"? Bang! I am maniacal Bang! So defiable Obliverate dominate selfdestruct and activate Bang! I am political Bang! So unequivable the name of the game is to win all the way FLA were a lot of things, but master lyricists not so much? I only really listen to Tactical Neural Implant, and never really had much interest for anything that came after. Sonically, it's a nice slice of early 90's dance floor stomp. Lyrically ... eh. "Mindphaser" has some cool ideas, but then that chorus hits and I always think he cribbed it from discarded Puppy sessions. 
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2011 19:07
|
|
|
Yeah. Ogre pulls off semi-nonsense lyrics in a way that seems artsy and deep in that "I guess I'm just not tuned in enough to get it" sort of way. Bill Leeb's lyrics are straight retarded.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2011 19:09
|
|
|
Wikipedia Brown posted:Bill Leeb's lyrics are straight retarded. disturbed emotion greased with lotion
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2011 19:12
|
|
|
Who will be the first to uncover a June/Spoon/Moon in the FLA catalog?
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2011 19:25
|
|
|
Wikipedia Brown posted:Yeah. Ogre pulls off semi-nonsense lyrics in a way that seems artsy and deep in that "I guess I'm just not tuned in enough to get it" sort of way. Ogre had a few eye rolling turns*, especially as of late. Stream of consciousness style stuff is usually scoff worthy, but he gets away with it I think when its combined with the sound sculptures those boys pulled off in their peak. I've liked the odd line here and there from the latter material, but (to me) lyrically nothing can touch that Too Dark Park and Last Rights material. * "Assimilate" is probably one of my favorite classic Puppy tracks, and up there in favorite songs in general. However, every time I hear it I still think the "rot and assimilate/so hot to annihilate" sounds weird. I think it's just his use of hot there that makes it sound cumbersome. And we'll not discuss his rearranging of history to afford a rhyme for Kent State (at least he corrected himself in later live recordings). hatelull fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Jun 1, 2011 |
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2011 19:48
|
|
|
Might as well post this here since I already uploaded it for my friend to check out: This is a quick thing I made in Rytmik on my Nintendo DS at 3 AM last night. It's pretty much just a fistful of sounds and ideas I fiddled around with yesterday, but please say something about it, especially if it's negative  This is the first time I'm trying to make this kind of stuff on this particular software, so personally I was pretty pleased with the sounds I managed to get out of it, especially since the program is mostly geared towards the various subgenres of electronic dance music.Now, I'm pretty much a horrible novice when it comes to making music at this point (I've never even tried to properly learn how to play a guitar outside of school, although I do know something about keyboards) but I've always wanted to express myself and I have a multitude of ~ideas~. Said ideas involve a lot of industrial-ish and noise-ish soundscapes that I'm kind of hoping I'll get around to making into at least some kind of tracks in the summer when I finally have more free time. My brother and I also have a kind of a noise project we sometimes fiddle around with for fun, and it's growing more and more certain that we're gonna play a short gig in the summer. Gonna be my first public musical performance ever, and although it won't be until July and there's likely gonna be like 20 people attending, I'm already starting to feel nervous about it... 
a cyborg mug fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Jun 1, 2011 |
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2011 20:33
|
|
|
Goddamnit now I need to get a DSi. Thanks a bunch CAT rear end now!!!
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2011 21:15
|
|
|
boo_radley posted:That's got Vanished on it, right? I think that's when the melding of all of the FLA side projects really coalesced into something polished and nuanced (mature, maybe?). I'll have to dig the disc back up. That was the first album Rhys Fulber returned on, and iirc the guitarist for Fear Factory did the guitars in Civilization. The album itself was a Big Deal due to Fulber's return
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2011 23:04
|
|
|
It's amazing how many of his finger prints you can hear in it.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2011 23:05
|
|
|
This album is loving amazing, it's past 2 AM and I just listened through it the third time in a row. gently caress. Every other FLA album I have (Caustic, Millennium, IED) is loving lame compared to this even when just a couple of days ago I thought they were pretty cool. Please tell me they have at least some other FLA albums more like this. I've got Tactical Neural Implant coming in the mail but now I'm afraid I won't care about it after listening to Civilization.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2011 23:28
|
|
|
I'm afraid they're all completely different beasts. There's nothing like Civi, there's nothing like TNI, there's nothing like Hard Wired etc. They're (almost) all great in their own way which is part of the reason why I like FLA so much. Those three I mentioned are probably my favourites. With a nod towards FLAvour.
|
|
#
?
Jun 1, 2011 23:39
|
|
|
CAT rear end now!!! posted:Might as well post this here since I already uploaded it for my friend to check out: This sounds like something that should be in the old Doom videogames.
|
|
#
?
Jun 2, 2011 12:52
|
|
|
spider_ross.avi posted:This sounds like something that should be in the old Doom videogames. I think this must be the biggest and best compliment I've ever gotten for anything in my life. I'm serious.
|
|
#
?
Jun 2, 2011 12:59
|
|
|
CAT rear end now!!! posted:I think this must be the biggest and best compliment I've ever gotten for anything in my life. I'm serious. You and Quirk both.
|
|
#
?
Jun 2, 2011 13:03
|
|
|
It fits Underhalls well I like the trudging it gives off. I'm trying to have a demo done like yesterday and have had to remake all my recent stuff from scratch, does this sound pretty good quality production wise for a demo? http://tindeck.com/listen/tjgp http://tindeck.com/listen/cjeo Quirk fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Jun 6, 2011 |
|
#
?
Jun 6, 2011 02:04
|
|
|
hatelull posted:Ogre had a few eye rolling turns*, especially as of late. Stream of consciousness style stuff is usually scoff worthy, but he gets away with it I think when its combined with the sound sculptures those boys pulled off in their peak. I've liked the odd line here and there from the latter material, but (to me) lyrically nothing can touch that Too Dark Park and Last Rights material. If you're listening to / can understand industrial music lyrics, you're doing it wrong.
|
|
#
?
Jun 6, 2011 14:28
|
|
|
Doctor Zero posted:If you're listening to / can understand industrial music lyrics, you're doing it wrong. An opinion where in I absolutely and strongly disagree.
|
|
#
?
Jun 6, 2011 14:47
|
|
|
I unabashedly enjoy 90s-era KMFDM lyrics.
|
|
#
?
Jun 6, 2011 14:51
|
|
|
Doctor Zero posted:If you're listening to / can understand industrial music lyrics, you're doing it wrong. This is usually the point in the discussion where someone quotes the lyrics for Shaven, by Funker Vogt. The first line is "Shaven cunts gently caress much more horny" and it doesn't really get better from there onwards.
|
|
#
?
Jun 6, 2011 19:25
|
|
|
Danger - Octopus! posted:This is usually the point in the discussion where someone quotes the lyrics for Shaven, by Funker Vogt. The first line is "Shaven cunts gently caress much more horny" and it doesn't really get better from there onwards. I know this for quite a while.
|
|
#
?
Jun 6, 2011 19:31
|
|
|
Quirk posted:It fits Underhalls well I like the trudging it gives off. You had to redo them again? Didn't you already have to do it twice before this or something  But yeah, these sound fantastic to me, studio quality stuff.
|
|
#
?
Jun 6, 2011 19:32
|
|
|
teethgrinder posted:I unabashedly enjoy 90s-era KMFDM lyrics. And on the other end of the spectrum: Coil.
|
|
#
?
Jun 6, 2011 19:35
|
|
|
Danger - Octopus! posted:This is usually the point in the discussion where someone quotes the lyrics for Shaven, by Funker Vogt. The first line is "Shaven cunts gently caress much more horny" and it doesn't really get better from there onwards. I also should have put a  in there because I was only half serious.However, see also every lyric by Terminal Choice.
|
|
#
?
Jun 6, 2011 20:10
|
|
|
CAT rear end now!!! posted:You had to redo them again? Didn't you already have to do it twice before this or something oh it's been maybe four or five... or more but who's counting  I got it this time. It's needed this long to bake anyways.new http://tindeck.com/listen/tqpi a year or so ago http://tindeck.com/listen/zcmn
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2011 03:49
|
|
|
Quirk posted:oh it's been maybe four or five... or more but who's counting Is it wrong for me to like the older mix better? Personally I think some of the rough analog texture that is really prevalent in the old mix gets lost in reverb and sampled acoustic drums in the new one.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2011 11:37
|
|
|
hatelull posted:An opinion where in I absolutely and strongly disagree. I agree with your disagreement. It depends on the band too. FLA I could never get into lyrically but I guess the music and ideas were there so you could overlook that. However something like Skinny Puppy required alot of thought. Like the other poster brought up, I always heard "hot" in Assimilate as in like 'hot headed'. So quick to jump the gun with war sort of thing. I mean, there is alot of open interpretation to that writing style, where as FLA is often random short statements and the meaning of the wording is kinda obvious despite being about weird topics. 90's KMFDM were a mixed bag of very thought provoking, chant-sing-a-long inducing lyrics mixed with self-indulgent pseudo band advertisements. Which worked really well for what they were. PIG was pretty polarizing as it was very poetic, dark as sin, but if you hate that writing style of similar words/letters then it was probably too much. Frankly I loved it. I think it's very cool to analyze different styles of writing in industrial music, given that it's such a off the wall genre you tend to find such gems here and there that most commercial music wouldn't dare try.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2011 18:03
|
|
|
spider_ross.avi posted:Is it wrong for me to like the older mix better? Personally I think some of the rough analog texture that is really prevalent in the old mix gets lost in reverb and sampled acoustic drums in the new one. that's fine, just the new one is the slick sound I've been aiming for the whole time. Ill still add stuff like guitar pickup noises and the "help me" sample during the bridge.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2011 18:17
|
|
|
The Cleaner posted:I think it's very cool to analyze different styles of writing in industrial music, given that it's such a off the wall genre you tend to find such gems here and there that most commercial music wouldn't dare try. This is one of thing that attracted me to the genre originally. Sure, the first Puppy I was exposed too was very much in the "creep out" vein, but then the lyrics were stream of consciousness style fare with no definite verse or chorus. You can get away with the lyrical style thanks to the song structure. Someone mentioned COIL earlier, and while they are all over the map in terms of lyrical quality they do have a few keen couplets that work pretty well. KFMDM, forever the hair metal of industrial music, have a lot of great songs that are fun to shout long with in a live setting but if you sit back and look for some deep message in "Light" you might be terribly disappointed. Having said that, "call 1 800 accept no imitations/KMFDM one world one nation" just sounds neat in an absolute juvenile way.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2011 21:51
|
|
|
CAT rear end now!!! posted:This album is loving amazing, it's past 2 AM and I just listened through it the third time in a row. gently caress. Every other FLA album I have (Caustic, Millennium, IED) is loving lame compared to this even when just a couple of days ago I thought they were pretty cool. Please tell me they have at least some other FLA albums more like this. I've got Tactical Neural Implant coming in the mail but now I'm afraid I won't care about it after listening to Civilization. Tactical Neural Implant is easily the best thing Leeb ever did. It's also the only thing he ever did that I consider essential for any industrial fan. You don't have an industrial collection until TNI is in there somewhere.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2011 22:21
|
|
|
sethsez posted:Tactical Neural Implant is easily the best thing Leeb ever did. It's also the only thing he ever did that I consider essential for any industrial fan. You don't have an industrial collection until TNI is in there somewhere. Tactical Neural Implant was the first industrial I ever heard, and is absolutely the reason why industrial is still my genre of choice nearly twenty years later. God I love that album.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2011 22:23
|
|
|
Yesterday I got an email from the shop where I ordered TNI from and they told me it's long out of print  So that's why it's not available anywhere. I was wondering why such an important album was so difficult to track down.
|
|
#
?
Jun 8, 2011 02:03
|
|
|
CAT rear end now!!! posted:Yesterday I got an email from the shop where I ordered TNI from and they told me it's long out of print I've had good luck with Amazon's used sellers for stuff like this (and they do have many copies of TNI for you if you don't mind going with them) and came up with this completely insane book.  Click here to view the full image
|
|
#
?
Jun 8, 2011 02:12
|
|
|
CAT rear end now!!! posted:Yesterday I got an email from the shop where I ordered TNI from and they told me it's long out of print Could always try eBay. You neeeed to get it! boo_radley posted:I've had good luck with Amazon's used sellers for stuff like this (and they do have many copies of TNI for you if you don't mind going with them) and came up with this completely insane book. What the hell, this is amazing.
|
|
#
?
Jun 8, 2011 02:18
|
|
|
http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/tactical-neural-implant/id216663097 Just saying. I drank the kool-aid a while ago, as much as I hate iTunes for actual music playing/management. I've used it for every modern industrial album I want to listen to but am not 100% crazy about.
|
|
#
?
Jun 8, 2011 02:21
|
|
|
Speaking of FLA, what's up with their B-sides almost universally being their best songs? edit: also, how fun is it when you're watching some lovely science fiction or horror movie and you recognize a sample from some song you jammed out to in high school? Man, I love that Shart Carbuncle fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Jun 8, 2011 |
|
#
?
Jun 8, 2011 03:15
|
|
|
I agree. I don't hold near as much attachment to CD's as I would vinyl. Get it on iTunes for instant gratification. Also, I think Tactical Neural Implant is absolutely the best FLA album. Everything works.
|
|
#
?
Jun 8, 2011 03:23
|
|
|
Honestly, is there anyone who doesn't think TNI is the best FLA?
|
|
#
?
Jun 8, 2011 04:25
|
|
|
|
| # ? Dec 8, 2024 04:10 |
|
|
What were those tape decks tape traders used to go nuts over? Nakamichis or something like that. I dubbed all my poo poo on a boombox even though you weren't supposed to do that and nobody ever complained. I did, however, have the common decency to turn off Dolby and dub at normal speed on the acceptable brands of tapes.
|
|
#
?
Jun 8, 2011 04:38
|
|
