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Pope Guilty posted:It gets into his lyrics, as in "Fuckmachine" and "Give Head If You Got It". "Joy to the World" is pretty great though. All three of those songs are great. 
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13Pandora13 posted:All three of those songs are great. Sure, but with the first two, the lyrics are sufficiently "Please be offended by me!" to be distracting to where I can't enjoy them.
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Oct 5, 2011 00:11
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Pope Guilty posted:Sure, but with the first two, the lyrics are sufficiently "Please be offended by me!" to be distracting to where I can't enjoy them. The thing I don't get about this is that nobody is going to accidentally come across his stuff, so who does he think he's offending or shocking?
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Oct 5, 2011 00:57
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drat it it's 2011, not 1990. If you're trying to offend with your lyrics it's probably not offending anyone worth offending (or dare I say "making them think" it's probably doing the complete opposite). And if multiple people question why your trying hard to seem offensive and you say "I'm not trying it's just how I write/who I am" then you're lying to yourself. AND by this I don't just mean swearing/cursing I mean that fine line that crosses artful expression into stereotypical mediocrity. CIRCUITFUCK 69 - Bloodpuss Electrolosis (IN YOUR BRAINZ poo poo MIX) The Cleaner fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Oct 5, 2011 |
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The Cleaner posted:CIRCUITFUCK 69 - Bloodpuss Electrolosis (IN YOUR BRAINZ poo poo MIX) I was disappointed to find that this was not a real song.
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Oct 5, 2011 06:47
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carbonex posted:Edit: Did this thread ever talk about last year's Haus Arafna? It might have been more like an Arafna/November Növelet blend, but drat was it good! You mean "You"? I loved it, the Crowley vox were genius.
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Hellektro or however you want to call it is the brostep of the industrial scene. It locates and extracts the easiest, simplest and "coolest" parts out of a genre (ie. HUUUGE BEATS BRO and LYRICS ABOUT BLOOD AND SEX AND HOW THE SYSTEM SUXXXX!!1!!) and applies them liberally ad nauseam. I guess you can dance to it or something, but bands like Combichrist, Agonoize, Ext!ze etc. just have nothing to offer for me. They're just not ambitious or interesting enough artistically for me to get excited about them, I guess. e: Speaking of ~*  art*~ the new Diary of Dreams album is pretty amazinga cyborg mug fucked around with this message at 10:23 on Oct 5, 2011 |
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Oct 5, 2011 09:23
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CAT rear end now!!! posted:Hellektro or however you want to call it is the brostep of the industrial scene. I absolutely love this analogy. As much as I don't like Combichrist and their ilk, Suicide Commando are still amazing.
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Oct 5, 2011 14:24
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W424 posted:You mean "You"? I loved it, the Crowley vox were genius. Furret Basket posted:As much as I don't like Combichrist and their ilk, Suicide Commando are still amazing.
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Oct 5, 2011 15:45
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Pope Guilty posted:Sure, but with the first two, the lyrics are sufficiently "Please be offended by me!" to be distracting to where I can't enjoy them. Hating women is coooooool!
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Oct 5, 2011 15:48
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When at university, it was the edit: and I'm talking about the Abercrombie-wearing ones, not the Zaphod's crowd, heh. Though they probably liked it too. teethgrinder fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Oct 5, 2011 |
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Slappy Moose posted:
That's actually why I loved that song  His lyrics are a huge cut above most similar stuff, and his rage comes across as real, not some cheesy shock-shtick.
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Oct 5, 2011 16:44
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I feel like taste in industrial is entirely subjective. I think most of the stuff you guys like is way too whiny goth kid for my tastes but I don't think the bands I like are musically superior. I just like them better. Everything in industrial is a stereotype. You take yourselves way too seriously.
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13Pandora13 posted:I feel like taste in industrial is entirely subjective. I think most of the stuff you guys like is way too whiny goth kid for my tastes but I don't think the bands I like are musically superior. I just like them better. Everything in industrial is a stereotype. You take yourselves way too seriously. Different strokes. I prefer 'whiny' to 'misogynist'. Your tastes may vary!
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Oct 5, 2011 17:08
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Speaking of 'whiny' ... not really, too dark park is one of my all time favorite things The new Skinny Puppy leaked (briefly).
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Oct 5, 2011 20:34
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Twiin posted:Hating women is coooooool! SO EDGY!
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Industrial has always been totally over the edge, bro, it's just that people are harder to shock now.
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TOOT BOOT posted:Industrial has always been totally over the edge, bro, it's just that people are harder to shock now. Sure! The difference is that acts like Laibach or Boyd Rice were either explicitly a character act, or were totally marginalized. Combichrist wears a confederate war flag and puts out a video where he forces women to strip at gunpoint, and he goes on tour with Rammstein.
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Oct 5, 2011 21:43
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All you feminist cunts you know that you want it, give head if you've got it. totally ironic Wouldn't care so much if a) the music wasn't so boring b) so many of fans take it so seriously. Combichrist fans are worse than Juggalos.
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Oct 5, 2011 21:53
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The most frustrating part is that he's been wasting time with Combichrist (and Panzer AG...) and we haven't had an Icon of Coil album in forever. Just have to skip that night at Kinetik next year.  Edit: On a positive note, Haujobb might still put on a good show? Dead Market
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The issue for me is that is has been done to death. I'm sure maybe back in the 80's maybe it WAS offensive or edgy. Nowadays? You mine as well wear a powdered wig with your gasmask and distorted dance beats. I had a chance to listen to the new Skinny Puppy leak and IMO it's a good example of edgy-without-trying-to-be-edgy. The whole album is just uncompromising and almost reminds me a ViVisectVi freeform unstructured stuff.. some of it actually dark too like Brownstone which imo one of the more twisted tracks I've heard (although not really a 'song' but still wtf). Definitely recommending this album.
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The Cleaner posted:The issue for me is that is has been done to death. I'm sure maybe back in the 80's maybe it WAS offensive or edgy. Nowadays? You mine as well wear a powdered wig with your gasmask and distorted dance beats.
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I guess I just don't give a poo poo about Skinny Puppy anymore. Listened to 3 of the tracks on Youtube and while they were interesting they weren't anything I'd want to listen to more than a few times. I think I've just gotten tired of most industrial. Even the thought of throwing on Psalm 69 or Too Dark Park just doesn't do it for me anymore.
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Furret Basket posted:All you feminist cunts you know that you want it, give head if you've got it. Ahaha yes. YES. Twiin posted:Sure! The difference is that acts like Laibach or Boyd Rice were either explicitly a character act, or were totally marginalized. Combichrist wears a confederate war flag and puts out a video where he forces women to strip at gunpoint, and he goes on tour with Rammstein. I'd argue that acts like Laibach and Boyd Rice are better because they aren't just shock-jocks but are actually explicitly transgressive and their image, characters, and lyrics actually have a social meaning as opposed to the juvenile rantings of bands like Combichrist where they just want to appeal to teen angst, which just happens to be hopelessly reactionary. Zaiquiri fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Oct 5, 2011 |
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Furret Basket posted:Combichrist fans are worse than Juggalos. Hang on, lets not go crazy here.
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carbonex posted:The most frustrating part is that he's been wasting time with Combichrist (and Panzer AG...) and we haven't had an Icon of Coil album in forever. Komor's doing pretty well with Komor Kommando, isn't he? I signed up for the Alfa Matrix email list, because I loving love Alfa Matrix, and it seems like every email I get from them has a new KK disc.
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Pope Guilty posted:Komor's doing pretty well with Komor Kommando, isn't he? I signed up for the Alfa Matrix email list, because I loving love Alfa Matrix, and it seems like every email I get from them has a new KK disc. I'll admit I may have moved on from the targeted audience though. Anyone still enjoying Combichrist and [x]rx (who are somehow great live?!) should live in the moment!
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drat, I wish I haven't blown off VNV's new album so quickly earlier. Just gave the album a listen and I really enjoyed "On Air", "Radio", and "Nova". I can't blame them for mellowing out, it only seems natural, I just would have preferred they would have done it as similarly as Covenant did. speaking of Covenant, I'm starting to anticipate an EP from them. They left out a decent bunch of songs from their modern ruin tour that I was anticipating to hear.
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Sloppy posted:That's actually why I loved that song I actually ended up editing the song more to my liking; I added in the beat near the beginning in a lot more parts with lyrics, and I think it really fits (I like it a lot better now anyway, and it works for me when I'm in the gym). The biggest problem I have with a lot of music of any genre is that there is some very catchy tune in the beginning of the song, then it peters out to favour the lyrics or some other beat which I don't like as much. I end up editing a lot of the music I listen to to fix this... am I weird or do other's do the same thing?
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I can't say I've ever edited music other than doing the mono trick with really layered music to see what pops out of the mix.
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Heh, I totally forgot about this song until recently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt2Dgf5sRU4
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Jose Mengelez posted:Hang on, lets not go crazy here. Read ICP and Combichrist lyrics side by side and try to tell yourself they aren't exactly the same.
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spider_ross.avi posted:Read ICP and Combichrist lyrics side by side and try to tell yourself they aren't exactly the same. That would make for a good online trivia game. "ICP or Combichrist?"
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Twiin posted:That would make for a good online trivia game. "ICP or Combichrist?" You pretend to be god you gently caress me in the rear end v. If only I could set the world on fire gently caress 'em all
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molotoveverything posted:drat, I wish I haven't blown off VNV's new album so quickly earlier. Just gave the album a listen and I really enjoyed "On Air", "Radio", and "Nova". I can't blame them for mellowing out, it only seems natural, I just would have preferred they would have done it as similarly as Covenant did. Yeah, I enjoyed the new stuff at Infest when I was hammered so was unsure if it was actually good, but saw them again a bit more sober last night and some of the new tracks seemed actually good. They aren't really pretending to do anything other than dressed up cheesy eurodance for a couple of the new tracks, but I really like cheesy eurodance. I just wish they would play some of the Advance & Follow and Praise the Fallen stuff live.
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hatelull posted:
Haha what did I start here? I like this game.
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TOOT BOOT posted:I guess I just don't give a poo poo about Skinny Puppy anymore. Listened to 3 of the tracks on Youtube and while they were interesting they weren't anything I'd want to listen to more than a few times. Out of sheer curiosity what do you find you listen to currently? If you say Combichrist I'll poo poo.
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hatelull posted:
I'd guess Combichrist would be more about the assfucking. Did I win?
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The Cleaner posted:Out of sheer curiosity what do you find you listen to currently? Not a whole lot of industrial and definitely not Combichrist. The stuff that still interests me pretty much tends toward the avant-garde and neo-folk side of things. So stuff like TG, Coil, and Current 93.
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