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cheapandugly posted:Digging for stuff related to Coil and Throbbing Gristle (two of my absolute favorites), found out they came from the ashes of Crisis, another band I really enjoy. So did Death in June, bizarrely.
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I was referring to both.
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May 22, 2012 02:20
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cheapandugly posted:I was referring to both. The way you worded that it sounds like you mean that Coil and Throbbing Gristle came from Crisis somehow.
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May 22, 2012 16:33
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Furret Basket posted:Welp, thank you very much for doing that Twiin. You're doing a public service for sure. Thanks, man. Yeah, Andy's response surprised me, but what more can I ask for, really? This is today's surprise: Rodney Anonymous posted:A serious question(?!?): Any thoughts on Ad.Ver.Sary's "We Demand Better" presentation at Kinetik? RODNEY ANONYMOUS Between that post and Haujobb changing their FB cover photo to 'we deserve better', there is a little teenage version of me who's head just exploded.
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May 22, 2012 16:48
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Twiin posted:Thanks, man. Yeah, Andy's response surprised me, but what more can I ask for, really? EDIT: Didn't see the whole video until now. It's great. And couldn't be more timely. Hedenius fucked around with this message at 18:57 on May 22, 2012 |
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May 22, 2012 18:50
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Maybe this will mean more Icon of Coil 
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May 22, 2012 19:04
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IOC is touring for what its worth. Denver in September!
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Hedenius posted:That owns. Haujobb always struck me as more mature guys anyway. Yeah Myer pretty much hates the brodustrial scene. Not sure where I read it but there was an interview (maybe in like Orkus / Sonic Seducer?) where he told he can't stand stuff like Combichrist or Agonoize.
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May 22, 2012 21:31
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Can someone please explain to me why Nachtmahr/AlienVampires/BloodOnTheDanceFloor/etc... all have photos, videos, and live shows with half naked women loving everywhere? I feel really bad for bands like Skinny Puppy, Throbbing Gristle, and Einstürzende Neubauten. It's as if being talented and creating great music is the one turn-off for sexy goth chicks.
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The Cleaner posted:Can someone please explain to me why Nachtmahr/AlienVampires/BloodOnTheDanceFloor/etc... all have photos, videos, and live shows with half naked women loving everywhere? Because it's an easy way to get attention and ~be provocative~, I guess. I hope the next Volt 9000 artwork will only have naked photos of you and spider_ross.avi
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The Cleaner posted:Can someone please explain to me why Nachtmahr/AlienVampires/BloodOnTheDanceFloor/etc... all have photos, videos, and live shows with half naked women loving everywhere? The potential of being in close proximity to naked women is the only reason people like that* join bands in the first place. *people who clearly have no interest in music edit: honestly, I doubt if any of those people even spend time listening to music with any interest or a remotely critical ear. edit edit: having music on in the background while doing something else doesn't count as listening. Shart Carbuncle fucked around with this message at 14:15 on May 23, 2012 |
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May 23, 2012 14:10
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Sex sells. Really as simple as that.
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May 23, 2012 14:13
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Blutengel is still okay though, right? 
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Maybe their all deaf women?CAT rear end now!!! posted:I hope the next Volt 9000 artwork will only have naked photos of you and spider_ross.avi Would that make you like the music better, bro? The Cleaner fucked around with this message at 16:51 on May 23, 2012 |
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May 23, 2012 16:44
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Sometimes you have to choke a bitch. ...because she's into erotic asphyxiation and can only achieve orgasm when deprived of oxygen.
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May 23, 2012 20:17
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New KMFDM video.
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May 23, 2012 21:09
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This sounds sort of like it belongs on Money.
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Love the song, and am glad they didn't go the same direction as the Krank video.
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May 23, 2012 21:24
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Twiin, I think it's pretty cool that Karl from Angelspit posted your video. I'm glad it's getting some attention around the internet!
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DaveSpillings posted:Twiin, I think it's pretty cool that Karl from Angelspit posted your video. I'm glad it's getting some attention around the internet! He did? Edit: OH poo poo HE DID Twiin fucked around with this message at 04:27 on May 24, 2012 |
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May 24, 2012 04:06
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DaveSpillings posted:Twiin, I think it's pretty cool that Karl from Angelspit posted your video. I'm glad it's getting some attention around the internet! Tom Shear was discussing it quite a bit on facebook (supportive). So did Imperative Reaction (not as much).
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May 24, 2012 12:54
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Rainer talked to I Die: You Die about this business: http://www.idieyoudie.com/2012/05/an-interview-with-thomas-rainer-of-nachtmahr/
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May 24, 2012 17:09
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That guy doesn't have a thought in his head.
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May 24, 2012 17:28
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Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:That guy doesn't have a thought in his head. "This scene is a sausage fest, it’s all guys. There should be more women in this scene because it would make our music so much better and so much different." Garrotes women in his music videos Hey, where's all the wimmens at???
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Wikipedia Brown posted:Rainer talked to I Die: You Die about this business: http://www.idieyoudie.com/2012/05/an-interview-with-thomas-rainer-of-nachtmahr/ I said this already on FB, but: 1: I never criticised Nachtmahr's fascist-military image. I criticised their poor gender analysis/presentation, and the industrial community spontaneously and repeatedly added their fascist-military look to the list of complaints. 2: It's hilarious to me that Anna says "where's Consolidated when you need them", namechecks Jello Biafra, and then says that you shouldn't be political to people who are there to hear music, as if that's not what exactly what Consolidated and Jello did at every show of their entire lives. 3: A public relations protip to Anna, or anyone else in this scene: When being questioned about your questionable fashion choices, never, ever, ever start an unprompted conversation about how the swastika is a Buddist symbol. That's like Douglas P. 101 right there.
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Other dumb stuff: Claiming that you're taking a stand on something, and then revealing that the only belief you're prepared to defend is that military uniforms give you a boner. The limited understanding of politics as occurring only behind a voting machine curtain. The claim that you can't be a misogynist if you were raised to treat women with 'chivalry'--repeated by sexists everywhere.
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Twiin posted:I said this already on FB, but: A lot of conversation on IDUD really worries me not because I think people have Bad Opinions, but because (1) they don't seem to understand the complaint you're leveling (2) they seem unable to explain themselves except by way of pop-culture analogy. It's almost like they get upset that they are being asked to think about what they like, at all.
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It's frustrating when people miss the point so widely. Disagreement is fine, but it's like they're not even participating in the conversation. It's tough, because when you think about social issues, you expect others to at least understand the language. People (like Rainer) who have never given it serious thought don't really have the tools to engage, though.
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Wikipedia Brown posted:Rainer talked to I Die: You Die about this business: http://www.idieyoudie.com/2012/05/an-interview-with-thomas-rainer-of-nachtmahr/ Love the quotes in the interview they highlighted hahah. That's perfect.
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CAT rear end now!!! posted:Because it's an easy way to get attention and ~be provocative~, I guess. Me too.
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God I hate that man. I felt really awkward when seeing them at Resistanz, with this whole thing I'm so happy to see that the majority has my views on the subject.
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Wikipedia Brown posted:Rainer talked to I Die: You Die about this business: http://www.idieyoudie.com/2012/05/an-interview-with-thomas-rainer-of-nachtmahr/ Holy poo poo, I feel like that guy embodies everything wrong with the scene. No politics in music? The genre was founded on social and political commentary. The early uses of military imagery was a negative statement about current political climates. I've been out of the loop for a bit with modern industrial but I'm seriously seeing the mindset of hair metal bullshit and decadence seeping into the scene.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG7P6NX8yyE edit: the video is tame by current standards, and frankly doesn't bother me personally (but features plenty of done-to-death-cliche-hot-girls-in-video poo poo: holy crap girls kissing!!!!). But the blonde dancer is stunning. But the music is just the most insipid poo poo imaginable. It's like they took every single horrible pop music cliche ... auto-tune, featuring guy with a bit of rap, using internet slang/spelling, etc. and inserted it into an electro song. teethgrinder fucked around with this message at 20:51 on May 24, 2012 |
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teethgrinder posted:
I think I'm just getting old cause I totally missed the boat on this. When did music like this get considered industrial?
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Konstruct posted:I think I'm just getting old cause I totally missed the boat on this. When did music like this get considered industrial? Faderhead gets worse I posted this before, but this song is actually on a supposedly electro-industrial compilation.
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Danger - Octopus! posted:Faderhead gets worse Speaking of Faderhead.... The Faderhead Blog posted:“He said Thomas Rainer (Nachtmahr) is a Nazi!” – true. Listen to him when he gets drunk. I’ve personally heard him spout racist “Untermensch”-stuff on one occasion (Amphi 2010 backstage) and I know a bunch of others who have too. So I don’t buy his “it’s all provocation in the name of art!”-shtick. If I had known this in 2009 (when I met Thomas at Mera Luna) I would have never done the “Mädchen In Uniform”-remix. But hey, if you play in a band, dressed up as a Hitler-lookalike, you’ll have to live with the fact that people call you out on your poo poo.
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Konstruct posted:I think I'm just getting old cause I totally missed the boat on this. When did music like this get considered industrial?  I mean bands like VNV Nation, A23, Apop etc. "futurepop", have been lumped in with industrial for over ten years now too. My understanding with Faderhead though is that he started as credible and decent, then after the first album switched to this crap. I've never gotten around to actually checking it out though. I only know who he is because Encephalon were opening for the Toronto show. I checked him out on YouTube and decided not to go. (Encephalon are fantastic though.)
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Twiin posted:1: I never criticised Nachtmahr's fascist-military image. I criticised their poor gender analysis/presentation, and the industrial community spontaneously and repeatedly added their fascist-military look to the list of complaints.  What follows this are clips of a combichrist video interspersed with footage of Nachtmahr totally hitlering the gently caress out. I think you've actually been given the benefit of the doubt with how the scene chose to interpret it.
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At least Faderhead conceedes in his blog post there that he isn't "industrial". Props for that I guess.
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Jose Mengelez posted:
hahahaha oh you're not wrong.
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