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a_gelatinous_cube
Feb 13, 2005

Listening to Da Octopusss right now, and just sounds like lo-fi generic electro to me. I like the gimmick though, and bet it sounds good in a club or live.

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Noricae
Nov 19, 2004

cheese?
Late to this, but: FLA - Airmech is really good. I really like their early stuff (and only recently got into them, so worked my way back and then stopped around 97), and I didn't overdo it on the dubstep (just Planet Mu stuff), so I don't hear anything out of place in the album. (The Tangerine Dream vibes on the intro were jarring though). I'm totally OK with no lyrics. and this is a nice direction from FLA for me. Thanks thread!

Noricae fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Jan 30, 2013

Sloppy
Apr 25, 2003

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere.

Zyklon B Zombie posted:

Listening to Da Octopusss right now, and just sounds like lo-fi generic electro to me. I like the gimmick though, and bet it sounds good in a club or live.

I love them for about 15 minutes then my ears need a break. It's actually exhausting somehow, in a way that other industrial bands aren't. Still, I really dig their grinding, dystopian sound and I'd like to hear about other bands that are similar. They are terrifying (in a good way) with a little :420:.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Sloppy posted:

I love them for about 15 minutes then my ears need a break. It's actually exhausting somehow, in a way that other industrial bands aren't. Still, I really dig their grinding, dystopian sound and I'd like to hear about other bands that are similar. They are terrifying (in a good way) with a little :420:.

Maybe try Broken Note? They're sorta industrial-tinged dubstep and are pretty brutal at times.

Mask of Gas - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdEPAANAXRM

The Fury - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVSYxjve0Ag

a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



Just wanna say that Project Pitchfork - BLACK is p. much ridic loving good you guys.

Easily in the top 3 of Pitchfork albums and also Acid Ocean is very possibly one of the best Project Pitchfork tracks ever (Spilles actually singing again :allears:)

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

CAT rear end now!!! posted:

Just wanna say that Project Pitchfork - BLACK is p. much ridic loving good you guys.

Easily in the top 3 of Pitchfork albums and also Acid Ocean is very possibly one of the best Project Pitchfork tracks ever (Spilles actually singing again :allears:)

Wait, since when do you like Peter Spilles? ;)

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
Why isn't your username SPILES rear end now!!!

a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



Baby Sathanas posted:

Why isn't your username SPILES rear end now!!!

I actually immediately went to change my name into something resembling that but the 18-character limit prevents me from using all my worst ideas. I need to rethink this

ZoltarOmniscient
Jan 16, 2013
I've been considering starting a project akin to VNV Nation, Wolfsheim, Covenant, Seabound, etc. Does anyone have any advice where to start, and further, is this a bad thread to ask about this sort of thing?

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
What do you mean? You'd start by making music. :confused:

ZoltarOmniscient
Jan 16, 2013

Baby Sathanas posted:

What do you mean? You'd start by making music. :confused:

I mean like, what kind of equipment should I start with i.e. DAW or physical workstation, is there any kind of music theory I should know before getting into it and what are good channels to get exposure once I can start producing? Sorry if I'm being really dry or overly vague, it's just that I'm a complete and utter noob when it comes to production, and I've not the slightest idea how to start making music.

Edit:

I get the feeling these are not very good questions and I probably ought to resort to google.

ZoltarOmniscient fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Feb 1, 2013

Twiin
Nov 11, 2003

King of Suck!

ZoltarOmniscient posted:

I mean like, what kind of equipment should I start with i.e. DAW or physical workstation, is there any kind of music theory I should know before getting into it and what are good channels to get exposure once I can start producing? Sorry if I'm being really dry or overly vague, it's just that I'm a complete and utter noob when it comes to production, and I've not the slightest idea how to start making music.

Edit:

I get the feeling these are not very good questions and I probably ought to resort to google.

There is a good thread about this in the musician's lounge that you should check out. But here's the summary: Ableton Suite can do everything you need.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
Reason is also fantastic for everything (and a lot easier to understand than Ableton) but I am biased as gently caress because it's all I've known for like 10 years.

Twiin
Nov 11, 2003

King of Suck!

Baby Sathanas posted:

Reason is also fantastic for everything (and a lot easier to understand than Ableton) but I am biased as gently caress because it's all I've known for like 10 years.

Reason is easier to understand if you know how hardware gear works. If you don't then they're both just interfaces to learn.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

ZoltarOmniscient posted:

I mean like, what kind of equipment should I start with i.e. DAW or physical workstation, is there any kind of music theory I should know before getting into it and what are good channels to get exposure once I can start producing? Sorry if I'm being really dry or overly vague, it's just that I'm a complete and utter noob when it comes to production, and I've not the slightest idea how to start making music.

Edit:

I get the feeling these are not very good questions and I probably ought to resort to google.

It doesn't expressly cover what you're wanting to do, but Dance Music Manual has an extensive section on what all the little knobs and sliders in your synth's interface do and why and how they're used together. There's even a section that talks about different drum and instrument sounds and how to build them on a synth. It won't get you all the way, but it'll give you a baseline understanding of what the gently caress you're doing and let you do more than just surf through presets. It does kind of assume that you're working on hardware instead of software, but most VST synths that I've seen use faux-hardware interfaces anyway.

I mean, maybe it's not really all that useful- I'm not a musician, just a guy who likes dicking around uselessly once in awhile.

a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



Hardware, mang :pcgaming: :unsmigghh:

a cyborg mug fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Feb 1, 2013

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

Twiin posted:

Reason is easier to understand if you know how hardware gear works. If you don't then they're both just interfaces to learn.

I don't think that's true really. IMO Reason is more intuitive purely due to it's modelling of wires and knobs and sliders. However, it doesn't model any actual real-world devices (there are some plugins that do however), so I don't believe it's true that if you know how hardware gear works then you'll be happier with Reason. Infact I think that would hinder you because you'd expect certain things that just aren't there.

The amazing documentation for Reason and derth of video tutorials also make it a lot better for newbies.

This isn't really the best place for it though, I just thought your assertation was wrong.

[edit]

Autoclav 1.1 and Covenant are at Infest this year.

All the mehs.

Babby Sathanas fucked around with this message at 10:14 on Feb 1, 2013

deong
Jun 13, 2001

I'll see you in heck!
um... I think this is the right thread.
:frogsiren:Orgy is touring!:frogsiren:
warning, music auto plays on the site. player at the top left.



They will be touring with a horrible band, vampires everywhere. But I'm excited. I never got to see them back in 2000. I hope they aren't too egotastic to play all of the hit songs. According to Wikipedia, they were going to work with Skrillex..

Twiin
Nov 11, 2003

King of Suck!

Baby Sathanas posted:

I don't think that's true really. IMO Reason is more intuitive purely due to it's modelling of wires and knobs and sliders. However, it doesn't model any actual real-world devices (there are some plugins that do however), so I don't believe it's true that if you know how hardware gear works then you'll be happier with Reason. Infact I think that would hinder you because you'd expect certain things that just aren't there.

Right, 'wires' and 'knobs' and all those other skeuomorphic interface elements that make up reason are things designed to make it easier for people who are used to plugging 'wires' and turning 'knobs' on hardware gear. But if you've never plugged a wire in anything or turned a knob on a synth, then it's not any easier to learn how to plug different output wires into different input hardware modules than it is to choose "track 4" on an output drop-down menu.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

Twiin posted:

Right, 'wires' and 'knobs' and all those other skeuomorphic interface elements that make up reason are things designed to make it easier for people who are used to plugging 'wires' and turning 'knobs' on hardware gear. But if you've never plugged a wire in anything or turned a knob on a synth, then it's not any easier to learn how to plug different output wires into different input hardware modules than it is to choose "track 4" on an output drop-down menu.

I'm not sure that's true. I think that most people will understand, or at least be more willing to experiment and mess with, physical-looking dials and buttons. People deal with those type of things day in and day out in every day life. But the abstractions of traditional software are like a completely different language. It just fosters experimentation and fun more.

W424
Oct 21, 2010

ZoltarOmniscient posted:

I mean like, what kind of equipment should I start with i.e. DAW or physical workstation, is there any kind of music theory I should know before getting into it and what are good channels to get exposure once I can start producing?

Just get a DAW and go from there, theory helps immensenly. Invest in hardware when you've know what you are doing and feel like it might add something. Stay away from gearslutz.

Twiin
Nov 11, 2003

King of Suck!

Baby Sathanas posted:

I'm not sure that's true. I think that most people will understand, or at least be more willing to experiment and mess with, physical-looking dials and buttons. People deal with those type of things day in and day out in every day life. But the abstractions of traditional software are like a completely different language. It just fosters experimentation and fun more.

You're right, it's a completely different language. That's exactly my point. If you're someone who freaks out because you don't know how to plug a TV into a DVD player, but you are an Excel wizard, you might do better with Cubase than Reason. If you're someone who spends all day plugging things into different things and adjusting knobs, Reason will seem intuitive. If you're workflow-oriented, Ableton is easy to get. You follow me? The lesson that Apple has taught everyone over the last ten years is that skeuomorphic interfaces are only 'intuitive' when people are expecting a skeuomorphic interface.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

I used to really like Autoclav 1.1, but Covenant were terrible last time I saw them goddamit (this was primarily because a] I don't like the latest album and b] Eskil was embarassingly drunk and could barely speak)

Twiin
Nov 11, 2003

King of Suck!

Danger - Octopus! posted:

I used to really like Autoclav 1.1, but Covenant were terrible last time I saw them goddamit (this was primarily because a] I don't like the latest album and b] Eskil was embarassingly drunk and could barely speak)

This is also the case for Eskil when he's not performing.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost
Classy guy.

On the other hand, NEW WELLE:ERDBALL OMG!

http://youtu.be/J0ZdFRUiJQU

leahlionheart
Jun 20, 2012

by T. Finninho
For summer festivals, I'm trying to get to Kinetik in Montreal.

Also trying to get to COMATOSE in Philadelphia at the end of August.

Are there any others to be aware of?

Twiin
Nov 11, 2003

King of Suck!

leahlionheart posted:

For summer festivals, I'm trying to get to Kinetik in Montreal.

Also trying to get to COMATOSE in Philadelphia at the end of August.

Are there any others to be aware of?

Terminus in Calgary looks great. Leather Strip, Klutae, Aimon, Distorted Memory, iVardensphere. Assemblage 23 and XP8 if you're into that kind of thing.

leahlionheart
Jun 20, 2012

by T. Finninho

Twiin posted:

Terminus in Calgary looks great. Leather Strip, Klutae, Aimon, Distorted Memory, iVardensphere. Assemblage 23 and XP8 if you're into that kind of thing.

It's too far for me ... I'm in Indiana, and it's easy for me to get to NYC/upstate NY/Montreal/Northeast, but the PacNW, not yet. One day soon, I hope!

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

[culla=big red]TufFEE did nO THINg W̡RA̸NG[/read]


Quirk posted:

A version of a track I did with Dean Garcia made it on an album with Chibi from Birthday Massacre! :dance: I havent been online much last year so I didn't know he had finished it.

http://deangarcia.bandcamp.com/album/das-haus-volume-one

A bit late to respond to this post, but I've been waiting to see if you open another thread for MDP. Please release more material from Hyper Violent Porno Cartoon in a way where I can give you money for it. I must've listened to the stuff from your old Tindeck for hours and hours by now.

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.

Hbomberguy posted:

A bit late to respond to this post, but I've been waiting to see if you open another thread for MDP. Please release more material from Hyper Violent Porno Cartoon in a way where I can give you money for it. I must've listened to the stuff from your old Tindeck for hours and hours by now.

Yeah, I will sometime here sometime soonish. I was just given a laptop to work on this week, but after I finish up this project I was invited on I'm starting a bandcamp. Glad you like it so far :)

I'm remaking this with lyrics as IDGAF when I'm there again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpWwbIdUdZY

Halloween Jack
Sep 11, 2003

La morte non ha sesso

Twiin posted:

Terminus in Calgary looks great. Leather Strip, Klutae, Aimon, Distorted Memory, iVardensphere. Assemblage 23 and XP8 if you're into that kind of thing.
I like XP8 but I just wish they were a little more...harder? I don't know if that's the right word. I group them with a lot of bands that just need that little bit extra for their songs to be great dance hits, but they never quite get there.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Quirk posted:

Yeah, I will sometime here sometime soonish. I was just given a laptop to work on this week, but after I finish up this project I was invited on I'm starting a bandcamp. Glad you like it so far :)

I'm remaking this with lyrics as IDGAF when I'm there again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpWwbIdUdZY

Just the other day I was wondering whatever became of you. You start another blog someplace?

Quirk
Oct 11, 2004

You might surprise yourself.
No more blogs, moved back to Alaska because Washington and/or America is loving bonkers. Here's a thread about my fake band from around Christmas, it got locked because I'm a bad poster: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3522822 I'll try again with bandcamp in the near future

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
Latest Infest announcements: Pride & Fall and AAAK


Pride and Fall! :toot:

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Halloween Jack posted:

I like XP8 but I just wish they were a little more...harder? I don't know if that's the right word. I group them with a lot of bands that just need that little bit extra for their songs to be great dance hits, but they never quite get there.

That's what remixes are for!

a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



KRAFTWERK IS COMING TO FINLAND THIS SUMMER

:holy: :neckbeard: :hawaaaafap: :supaburn: :hellyeah: :sbahj: :ohdear: :swoon: :newfap: :eyepop: :pwn: :parrot: :tviv:

^ an accurate representation of my feelings at the moment

a cyborg mug fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Feb 13, 2013

W424
Oct 21, 2010

CAT rear end now!!! posted:

KRAFTWERK IS COMING TO FINLAND THIS SUMMER


HOLY poo poo

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost
They're playing in Scotland... but at T In The Park. They're on the billing below Rihanna, the Killers and Mumford & Sons...

Run Dodo Run
Oct 7, 2006

I hope they do Manchester International Festival again this year. Seeing Kraftwerk in a velodrome just seemed perfect.

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ohrwurm
Jun 25, 2003

More Skinny Puppy? Yes, more Skinny Puppy. Handover was a huge improvement (for me) over the lackluster, forgettable Mythmaker, so I'm hoping this one keeps up the trend.

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