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Zyklon B Zombie posted:Thinking about driving up to Detroit and catching Skinny Puppy on this tour since I haven't been out to a show in a long while. Do they still put on a good live show? I saw them on the In Solvent See tour and it was pretty damned fun.
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I saw Gary Numan last night and Gary Numan is still amazing and you should all go see him if you get the chance to. Not only has he still got boundless energy he looked like he was having a blast as opposed to him just going through the motions. Love him. He does this amazing and shiny new version of Are Friends Electric now too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7o3PunF0N0 Something I was plesantly surprised by. Babby Sathanas fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Nov 11, 2013 |
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Man, "Break the Sky" off iVardensphere's new album sounds so drat ridiculous. It sounds like their vocalist totally blew out his voice and has joined the ranks of Strep Throat EBM. If I didn't know better I'd think it was Daniel Gra...oh, it's him.
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Nov 12, 2013 01:20
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Can anyone recommend any books about Skinny puppy?
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Nov 12, 2013 13:08
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Ooh I don't know if there's anything that specific. But there's a book from a fan called "Go Ask Ogre" about her correspondence with him. Industrial music is a pretty under-written subject, but a study called "Assimilate: A Critical History of Industrial Music" came out not too long ago, I think. I've read that it's the best single professional written work on it, and I'm reading it has a lot on Skinny Puppy in there. Oldy but goody: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTtzB17SKwQ
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Omi-Polari posted:Ooh I don't know if there's anything that specific. But there's a book from a fan called "Go Ask Ogre" about her correspondence with him. Industrial music is a pretty under-written subject, but a study called "Assimilate: A Critical History of Industrial Music" came out not too long ago, I think. I've read that it's the best single professional written work on it, and I'm reading it has a lot on Skinny Puppy in there. I have the assimilate book, and it's not a easy read. He does a lot of cultural and political theory, and at times I had the urge to skip forward to get to a point where he's actually discussing the music. However, when he's talking about the scene and the albums a lot of really solid artists are presented. Skinny Puppy get a whole chapter I think. However, Key blasted it on facebook saying most of it was inaccurate or just plain wrong. That dude is super whiny though, so who knows.
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hatelull posted:I have the assimilate book, and it's not a easy read. He does a lot of cultural and political theory, and at times I had the urge to skip forward to get to a point where he's actually discussing the music. However, when he's talking about the scene and the albums a lot of really solid artists are presented. Skinny Puppy get a whole chapter I think. However, Key blasted it on facebook saying most of it was inaccurate or just plain wrong. That dude is super whiny though, so who knows. I don't know if it's just the author's own tastes coming through, or if his experience of recent-ish industrial music in the US is very different to things in the UK, but there were some of the later portions of the book (basically anything referencing about 1999 onwards) that felt either really rushed or like things were being left out because they didn't really suit some of the points he was making (the rhythmic noise/old school EBM scenes still being pretty big at least in Europe, for example) It's definitely really interesting though, especially about the shift from being an avante garde movement to what we have now, because while I've read a lot elsewhere about TG and the other very early industrial & related artists, I'd never seen much about how things actually flowed from there to the current scene. Edit: Holy poo poo, here are Rummelsnuff and Leaetherstrip covering Don't You Want Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9eFR8UZJ20 Danger - Octopus! fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Nov 12, 2013 |
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hatelull posted:I have the assimilate book, and it's not a easy read. He does a lot of cultural and political theory, and at times I had the urge to skip forward to get to a point where he's actually discussing the music. However, when he's talking about the scene and the albums a lot of really solid artists are presented. Skinny Puppy get a whole chapter I think. However, Key blasted it on facebook saying most of it was inaccurate or just plain wrong. That dude is super whiny though, so who knows. I just started reading it, I'm just past the point where he talks about the Italian Futurists and William S. Buroughs. I love the fact that he goes there with it. I've long been fascinated by the Italian Futurists movement, it's just too bad they were, literally, capital-F Fascists under Mussolini. They invented all kinds of mechanical instruments that were destroyed in WW2.
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Nov 12, 2013 23:45
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Assimilate is a great book about industrial music up through about 2000 or so.
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mottbag posted:Can anyone recommend any books about Skinny puppy? I have these (and the forementioned Go Ask Ogre): http://www.lulu.com/shop/jay-kern/skinny-puppy-the-illustrated-discography-3rd-edition/paperback/product-20342984.html http://www.lulu.com/shop/jay-kern/skinny-puppy-the-videos-tour-history/paperback/product-20342978.html But they are more for the trainspotter crowd.
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Nov 13, 2013 18:20
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Does anyone know whether Alt-fest was the disaster this thread predicted it would be?
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Puntification posted:Does anyone know whether Alt-fest was the disaster this thread predicted it would be? It isn't happening until next year, dude.
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CAT rear end now!!! posted:It isn't happening until next year, dude. For some reason I thought it was this august gone never mind then.
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I have tickets for Alt-Fest, why's it going to be a disaster?
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Crashbee posted:I have tickets for Alt-Fest, why's it going to be a disaster? Because the organisers have a build-it-and-they-will-come mentality and have literally no experience in organising an event, let alone an enormous one. Almost every single music event starts out as a small affair and slowly gets bigger, they dived in with WE WANT EVERYYYYTHIIIINNNGG from day 1. It's all a bit silly.
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Pope Guilty posted:Tom Rainer gently caress Off For anyone else who was curious, this is the only (English) article that I was able to find by reverse image search: http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=50384_0_2_0_C . So it's coming out in February, and supposedly the songs on it will be precisely fired projectiles at some of the backstabbers here, silencing them once and for all. Also, 'Feindbild' means 'bogeyman' or 'image of the enemy', according to dict.cc, so yeah, it's appropriate. I like this album artwork. It's a step up from the rejected Alien Vampires artwork he has for Veni Vidi Vici. It's in line with Feuer Frei!, but otherworldly instead of same-old dark.
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Nov 15, 2013 16:58
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I mean, I know we're being trolled.VVVV But the anime Nazi girl? Really? The others in the background don't look out of place, stylistically.
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What's TBM meant to stand for? Is it the kind of stuff like X-Rx, Noisuf-X and Eisenfunk?
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I went to try and find out for you, but the closest I got was "tunnel boring machine". So let's go with that anyway.
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Nov 15, 2013 18:35
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At some point Andy LaPlegua called his stuff "Techno Body Music" (because you can't be an industrial icon if you haven't coined a useless jargon word) and now it gets used as a catch-all for dance-powernoise.
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I'm still waiting for a band to call their music IBM (Intelligent Body Music)
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Baby Sathanas posted:Because the organisers have a build-it-and-they-will-come mentality and have literally no experience in organising an event, let alone an enormous one. Oh well, at least I'm only a bus ride away from home if it all goes to poo poo. In case anyone's interested Android Lust have a kickstarter going at the moment, they're already fully funded and have another week to go. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/androidlust/android-lust-the-dividing-10th-anniversary-vinyl-e
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For anyone into the noisy end of things, here's a 45 minute film about Forms of Hands 11 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1nPBa1J27E Edit: Oh, there's one about Maschinenfest too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HulD4ICTDkQ Danger - Octopus! fucked around with this message at 09:07 on Nov 16, 2013 |
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My favorite sub-subgenre is Anhalt EBM, which is basically dance music for skinheads. Not, like, Nazi skinheads, but like if you took Oi! fans and made the Oi! with computers instead of guitars. Like, TWAT could easily play with Angelic Upstarts.
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Nov 16, 2013 09:17
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I really want to go to Familientreffen at some point for the sweet anhalt EBM bromance with a field full of shirtless tattooed dudes.
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Danger - Octopus! posted:I really want to go to Familientreffen at some point for the sweet anhalt EBM bromance with a field full of shirtless tattooed dudes. They're all apolitical, but in a different way from the neofolk fans.
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Pope Guilty posted:They're all apolitical, but in a different way from the neofolk fans. DAF hipsters.
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Way back in the OP: The description of electro-industrial as taking metal and adding a dance beat is super evocative to me. Haven't really heard any, but I do listen to a bunch of death metal. Is there any electro-industrial that really plays up the metal aspects of it? Guitar riffs, maybe interspersing blastbeats with the dance backbone, maybe harsh vocals. Very heavy, or very fast. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciation.
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Probably should start with Ministry - Psalm 69. Just their early stuff really, as well as early KMFDM and Skinny Puppy. There's a lot of harsh blastbeat industrial noise with machinery noises in it (like Converter) that I'm sure isn't what you meant but might be interesting.
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John Magnum posted:Way back in the OP: The description of electro-industrial as taking metal and adding a dance beat is super evocative to me. Haven't really heard any, but I do listen to a bunch of death metal. Is there any electro-industrial that really plays up the metal aspects of it? Guitar riffs, maybe interspersing blastbeats with the dance backbone, maybe harsh vocals. Very heavy, or very fast. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciation. You might like the Finnish outfit Turmion Kätilöt, their album Pirun Nyrkki is pretty drat metal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrFSupNT7rA
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Radio Paranoia posted:You might like the Finnish outfit Turmion Kätilöt, their album Pirun Nyrkki is pretty drat metal. This actually is really cool and sort of what I had in mind! Thanks dude. Noricae I'll get to checking out your recs soon, thanks. Converter sounds intriguing from your description.
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John Magnum posted:Way back in the OP: The description of electro-industrial as taking metal and adding a dance beat is super evocative to me. Haven't really heard any, but I do listen to a bunch of death metal. Is there any electro-industrial that really plays up the metal aspects of it? Guitar riffs, maybe interspersing blastbeats with the dance backbone, maybe harsh vocals. Very heavy, or very fast. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciation. Edit: Thought I'd take a moment to do this better My sometimes-band Cyanotic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFC7apJ6LKY Hellsau (take a look for the track 'blissed', it's not on youtube) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyLQrXaV01g Rabbit Junk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5BVyOYC2nk Cubanate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0utAzwzXVRU Acumen: http://www.amazon.com/Black-Son-Hole-Explicit/dp/B000QN3QF2 Twiin fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Nov 17, 2013 |
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I've been bandcamp diving. http://functionoperate.bandcamp.com/album/tannh-user-gate-ep Interesting old school ebm sound. 4 tracks that sound like they were composed on a 606. Echoed vocals and minimalist processing.  http://laformelente.bandcamp.com/album/various-circuit-dactes-3 Comp that spans from 70s kraftwerkian\ joy division stuff in Kline Coma Xero - Left Behind, to Geograph era 242 in Ortrotasce's bonus track. If you're looking for something far, far removed from dancefloor nonsense, this is a super cracking compilation. Belgian.
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 LIVE! Litany webchat with Ogre and Jason Alacrityhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KXsljF0a50 (thanks, pope guilty) e: guess who loves Philip K. Dick? boo_radley fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Nov 19, 2013 |
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Twiin posted:Edit: Thought I'd take a moment to do this better Yup, this owns (and is on Spotify, too). I'm a sucker for anything that samples Videodrome.
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Cyanotic is frigging ace.
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Pope Guilty posted:My favorite sub-subgenre is Anhalt EBM, which is basically dance music for skinheads. Not, like, Nazi skinheads, but like if you took Oi! fans and made the Oi! with computers instead of guitars. Like, TWAT could easily play with Angelic Upstarts. I actually haven't heard of Anhalt EBM before, got any recommendations for good bands in this particular area?
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ZoltarOmniscient posted:I actually haven't heard of Anhalt EBM before, got any recommendations for good bands in this particular area? I really like Spetsnaz, Bodystyler, Spark! and Sturm Café.
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Baby Sathanas posted:Cyanotic is frigging ace. I'd like to agree with this. This band is just what I was inadvertently looking for!
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Check out World Wide Wasteland and A Young Person's Guide To Heartbreak by Battery Cage too. I think you'd like them a lot. Their other couple of releases aren't as slick, so not as good to start with.
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