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Skandiaavity posted:Also, earth mouth could be interpreted as "[Dirt/Filthy] Mouth" (in reference to the patrons or the karaoke). Otherwise spot on, A++ Tarepanda. I've never seen that kanji used that way. "dirt" and "dirty" aren't interchangeable the same way as they are in English as far as I know.  This is a dumb translation and I hate it. It means a "yakiniku plate," which is a plate of thin-sliced grilled meat. I had Korean BBQ when I went back to America and man, it was a frustrating experience and nothing like yakiniku in size or flavor. They should have just said "Grilled meat plate." I also really don't like it when Japan translates "ramen" as "boiled Chinese egg noodles" or something similar. Food translations are a bit pet peeve for me.  The mat under all of the spotlights says "perform." I don't remember any of this part of the game at all...
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Lance Streetman posted:
It's telling that a male charatar in this game looks more like a girl than the girls themselfs are. oh yeah the update:WTF?! That ws so strange and the Village People/Freddie inserts just topped the whole thing off. It's more amazing to see that this seems to be a gay brothel rather than what I expected.
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Supeerme posted:oh yeah the update:WTF?! That ws so strange and the Village People/Freddie inserts just topped the whole thing off. It's more amazing to see that this seems to be a gay brothel rather than what I expected. The implication for me is that it's a love hotel with a built-in delivery health service; the girls all just assume Cloud is gay because of his behavior, or perhaps word got around town quickly, and they try to accommodate him.
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You know what is better than a double update?
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Elentor posted:You know what is better than a double update? The exciting conclusion of "Aeris plays dressup with Cloud"? Because seriously, a triple update for this section would be completely justified. This segment is hilarious.
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Elentor posted:You know what is better than a double update? A bondage dungeon?
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Both answers above are absolutely correct.
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I must be crazy but I thought there was a platinum blonde wig too if you really beat Big Bro by a lot during the squatting game.
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Elentor posted:You know what is better than a double update? MORE man love?
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Chapter 12 - [E/N] How do I avoid being friend-zoned? Don Corneo's theme is fantastic. I urge you to listen to it.  We get the chance to explore Corneo's mansion a bit. The place has a very distinct and traditional oriental theme, very fitting. We go to the basement.  The name of this place is, unsurprisingly, torture room, if you check the menu. Don doesn't screw around. Cloud sees Tifa and immediately gets shy.   "Tifa?" "Cloud's told me a lot about you."   "Oh..." "What do you mean, "don't worry"... about what? No, don't misunderstand."   Now that's just evil.  SURPRISE!  Aerith is my Mistrethth now, Tifa. She commands me. Now it's your turn.  Yes, time for plot exposition! "Yea, umm..." "Ahem!! I'll just plug my ears." "I'm glad you're OK. When we got back from the Number 5 reactor there was this weird man. So Barret caught him and squeezed some information out of him." Cloud: "That's when Don's name popped up." "Right, Don Corneo. Barret told me to leave the lech alone..."  "Corneo is looking for a bride."     Yeah Aeris thanks for your help, I want you to go back now, as it is safer to escape this guarded mansion, cross alone through the Wall Market, cross the dangerous road with hell houses at night and get back to your house. Bye.    Cloud: "Me... right?"  Yes Cloud, you'll be a woman soon.  We get a chance to equip stuff. The most important thing here is the new weapon for Tifa. We also put a Titan Bangle in her.  God drat look at that hair.   I hope you still have the Urge Overkill music playing. If not, then get back to the Don Corneo's theme.  Yes, which girl, Don?  Go ahead, Cloud. Name him Pooch. Call him poo. Do it, and your fate will be complete.  There's something weird in this one. Uhh...       There's no turning back Cloud. Unless he wants it doggie-style.   Don Corneo: "You can have the other ones!"-"Yes sir!" -"Thank you sir!"  Don Corneo's Bedroom: Powered by Quake 2 Engine  Look at dat fukken dragon. Look at it.  There's a hyper behind the bed. Think what you will of that.     Alternatively if you say you don't like him, you can actually... say that. But let's get back to the script.      You might want to go take another break in case this game is getting too surreal.      Cockblocked at every turn! Tifa: "Cloud..." Hahahaha look at her disappointment. Anyway, Cloud reveals his ~TRUE FORM~.      That order doesn't really make much sense. Don: I made'em find out where the man with gun-arm was. But that's what I was ordered to do. Tifa: By who?  So we got a new name - Heidegger, head of public safety maintenance. The reason why they didn't kill Tifa and Barret when they were leaving the reactor is because they wanted to follow him and find out where the HQ was.  So far, so good. For all we know, Shinra is like the Vs, so our protagonists are pretty safe.  Wait what do you mean literally, don't you know the meaning of the word li  Oh holy carp!  I can't think of a worse sound than PING.  Now witness the power of this fully operational self-destruction button.  And with that we leave to save the people from their inevitable doom.  What now   Don: "Woo-hoo! Right!" ANOTHER STAR WARS THROWBACK SHAMELESSLY BROUGHT TO YOU BY SQUARESOFT Oh poo poo, dramatic music starts.  drat look at that place.   I don't know, that seems like the worst idea given what we've seen from them.  Reeve, whoever you are, stop using logic here! I want my sharks with lasers!  President: "What is the problem, Reeve? You want out?" Reeve: "No..."  Very classy, Heidegger! We finally got a villain who's an rear end in a top hat.   So yes, Midgar, in theory, has a Mayor.  In truth, Shinra de facto controls everything. So the mayor is just decorative.   Yes what a brilliant plan, it's not like you don't control the world and could have already killed the members of AVALANCHE, no. You need to destroy 1/8th of your city.  I don't know about you but last time I saw a movie and people fell into a trap like that, a giant monster appeared.  There's only one thing we can do. Hyper everybody. Before you talk to both of them, you can engage in some random battles. We do so to get our limits up and running. You never know, right?   These are the 1-2 limits of each character. I farmed them in such a way that I got the three of them in the same battle, to avoid getting too much exp. Aeris' Seal Evil causes Silence and Stop on all opponents. Silence is pretty much useless, but Stop isn't. Tifa's Somersault is a second attack added to Tifa limit's Slot Machine. It's just another attack that deals slightly more damage than normal. Cloud's Cross-Slash deals more damage than Braver, and also inflicts Paralysis on one opponent. It's worth mentioning something - Paralysis and Stop have the same effect, but are two different status. Basically, Stop lasts MUCH longer than Paralysis, giving Aeris' Seal Evil an edge when it comes to that. You can talk to either of them in the order that you want, but you need to talk to the two of them.  BOSS TIME  Aps is Don Corneo's Rancor. It's not a particularly hard boss (specially since the last Save Point is a bit far away). Aps' signature attack is Sewer Tsunami, an attack that hits everyone in the screen - including him. Sewer Tsunami comes either from your back or his back, and does back damage. Like the last boss, Aps has a back attack modifier - this time it's 4x instead of 2x. Naturally, the gimmick here is making Aps kill himself. Aps will always use Sewer Tsunami as his first attack and will take 180 (out of his 1800 health points) damage out of that. Then, Aps will counter every spell you cast on him with Sewer Tsunami. Aps is weak to Fire, so spamming magic on him makes this a very, very quick battle. Of course we're not gonna kill him the way the developers intended because that would be boring, but I want to show you all of his attacks, so we're gonna do it Solo-Tifa style.  As you can see, a fairly standard fight, but because he takes so much damage from the Tsunami he has a lot of HP. And his first action is Sewer Tsunami. So what can we do about that? The answer is here:  Bosses who have managed to execute their gimmicks before we kill them: 0/3  Remember how I said we now have two limits with Stop and Paralysis. Well, Aps is vulnerable to both. What we do here is open the battle with Seal Evil before he can cast his first Sewer Tsunami, and perform our highest damage moves against him before it wears off. The rest, as they say, is history. This is also our "continuity" for the next chapter, but we're not done here.  If you click on the above link you might see something unusual. Something... that shouldn't be there. Something different. That's correct, we start the battle in ambush formation. The boss is facing his back to us. This is because there are five bosses in the game whom, due to oversight in their coding, have the same chances (around 6%) as any random battle to start the fight ambushed. Naturally, because Aps takes 4x damage from behind, that also applies here. Anyway, hope you've had fun. NEXT-TIME Turks! Being Zidane! Tragic Events! New exciting Materia! Chapter 12 Bugs & Bytes Dressing Mechanics Part 2 So yeah, the mechanics are pretty simple. There are three possible results - Tifa, Aeris or Cloud. Tifa is the standard result and the one you'll always get if you go just with a dress and a wig. Each item can add +1, +3 or +5 to your prettiness score. The tier 1 items add +1 (for example, Cologne, Wig), the tier 2 items add +3 (Flower Cologne, Dyed Wig etc) and the tier 3 items add +5 (Silk Dress, Blonde Wig, etc). There are six types of items: Dress, Wig, Cologne, Tiara, Lingerie and Make-Up. Alas, Lingerie is bugged and doesn't affect you at all. The make-up is one that very few people know, because it requires you to talk to the bee girl AFTER you've picked up your room. The effect is random, and can be either +1, +3 or +5 (rare), and your only indication is the sound effect it makes when she puts it. Between 12 and 18 points you get Aeris. 19 and above, you get Cloud. The maximum amount you can get this way is 25. If you're not chosen, you have to fight Corneo's lackeys in his room, who are trying to molest Cloud. It's nothing special, really. Well I mean, I suppose it is, but we saw the best event anyway. Aps Back-Attack So yeah, that was a little weird, uh? Like I said, there are five bosses in the game who can start under a back-attack. It requires a very specific situation. First the boss must have a specific flag turned on, a flag that allows him to be back-attacked, but not allow you to escape. It's suspected that the bosses that have that flag are just a programmer's oversight. The thing is that you can only be back-attacked if you're in a place where random attacks occur. Not all bosses are in such places. As such, there are many other bosses with that flag turned on but, alas, you can't ambush them. As you saw, we can fight enemies in this area before triggering Aps. The result - a ~6% chance of back-attacking him. 
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Lava Lamp posted:I must be crazy but I thought there was a platinum blonde wig too if you really beat Big Bro by a lot during the squatting game. There is, but it's only available during New Game+ and let's you play as Sephiroth for the rest of the game. It's really tough to do, but not nearly as difficult as beating the running man to visit the Sky Temple and get the Triforce in Ocarina of Time was. Getting a Rainbow Chocobo though, now that was a challenge.
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The thing in the background says "puu," or "poo." I guess it's a catchphrase or something, since the girl said it. FF7 is way too early to be mocking Hard Gay, so I'm not sure what it's a reference to, if anything. The door to the left is labeled "punishment," the big door is labeled "large serving." The wall scroll on the left of the door has kanji put together in a bunch of nonsense saying "shuumai," the one on the right says "gyoza." Food fetish much? The scroll at the top has his name written upside-down, making it... Oneruco. I don't know. What a putz. What a putz. The big red lantern in the background, again, has his name on it. The bedspread says "Heaven" and a smaller character on the footboard says "bowl of food." No wonder this guy is fat. The mat has more nonsense kanji that can be read as "pit trap." Gee. What a putz.
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tarepanda posted:The mat has more nonsense kanji that can be read as "pit trap." Gee. Oh come on, that's hilarious.
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Elentor posted:Bikini Briefs: - Might be NWS. Oh no, you invoked my dark and dreadful power, so DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES. 
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AndwhatIseeisme posted:There is, but it's only available during New Game+ and let's you play as Sephiroth for the rest of the game. It's really tough to do, but not nearly as difficult as beating the running man to visit the Sky Temple and get the Triforce in Ocarina of Time was. Getting a Rainbow Chocobo though, now that was a challenge. Dude, spoilers!
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Elentor posted:There's only one thing we can do. Elentor posted:Alas, Lingerie is bugged and doesn't affect you at all. BTW, where did you get those item pictures?
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tarepanda posted:The mat has more nonsense kanji that can be read as "pit trap." Gee.
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Basically, if they had the patience to look at it and figure out that it said "pit trap." Kanji really aren't used like that though, so it might take a few seconds to realize what's going on even if they're actually thinking about it. It did for me, at least.
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tarepanda posted:Basically, if they had the patience to look at it and figure out that it said "pit trap." Kanji really aren't used like that though, so it might take a few seconds to realize what's going on even if they're actually thinking about it. It did for me, at least. Does it have another meaning? I honestly don't get how Japanese writing works in the slightest. Characters can mean like 5 different things and there's like a billion of them and some of them have only tiny differences in shape but mean totally different things and Jesus christ how does anyone over there learn to read?
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Elentor posted:
I hate you for posting this, because now all I have been thinking about since the update is what other bosses fit. I can think of three others besides Aps, but I can't figure out the fifth, and I don't want to look it up until I think I have them all. This is going to drive me nuts for the rest of the night. I'm sure I' forgetting the most obvious one too, because sometimes my brain just likes to piss me off like that.
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All that work to avoid "commotion" and nothing is really avoided. Cloud still reveals himself and the others beat up what few lackeys the Don had. If Cloud isn't chosen, then he's the one who beats them up. Basically the whole cross-dressing thing was pointless.
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Dauntasa posted:Jesus christ how does anyone over there learn to read? Reading is easy, writing is hard. How does anyone learn to spell? The best English example I can think of is this... and it's not a spectacular one. enough women nation ghoti = fish You're taking the letter combinations completely out of context there and expecting someone to pick it up. Someone could certainly sit there and figure out that ghoti = fish, but... it's a strange stretch.
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Screaming Idiot posted:Oh no, you invoked my dark and dreadful power, so DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES. Oh God, this is a thing of beauty. Dauntasa posted:Does it have another meaning? I honestly don't get how Japanese writing works in the slightest. Characters can mean like 5 different things and there's like a billion of them and some of them have only tiny differences in shape but mean totally different things and Jesus christ how does anyone over there learn to read? Think of it as written PEACH TRUE APP. If you think about it or speak out loud you can hear pit trap. Does it mean anything? No. The "words" have meanings of their own but you'd have to stretch out your imagination to make something out of it. Elentor fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Jun 10, 2011 |
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Oh god, this was amazing. I had completely forgotten about the rooms at the Honeybee, and really had no idea what was going on when I first played the game. Holy crap. Amazing. I know that, spoilers, but it's kind of relevant since it came up already in one of Elentor's posts, so: Cait Sith doll through the keyhole? I remember Cait Sith's 'story', as it were, but why the hell is there a doll in Honeybee!? Stellar updates as per. You are spoiling us.
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AndwhatIseeisme posted:I hate you for posting this, because now all I have been thinking about since the update is what other bosses fit. I can think of three others besides Aps, but I can't figure out the fifth, and I don't want to look it up until I think I have them all. This is going to drive me nuts for the rest of the night. I'm sure I' forgetting the most obvious one too, because sometimes my brain just likes to piss me off like that. God, me too. And I'm not sure I can even figure out for certain one. I suck 
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I think I recall something about the part where you get the tiara being slightly changed from the Japanese version, something about the contents of the wending machine actually being Viagra or condoms (or lord knows, maybe it was one of those drat panty machines) which he wanted for himself and that's why he didn't want to involve Aeris with it, and the reason why he couldn't go get it because he was too embarassed to.
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AndwhatIseeisme posted:I hate you for posting this, because now all I have been thinking about since the update is what other bosses fit. I can think of three others besides Aps, but I can't figure out the fifth, and I don't want to look it up until I think I have them all. This is going to drive me nuts for the rest of the night. I'm sure I' forgetting the most obvious one too, because sometimes my brain just likes to piss me off like that. Off-hand, I can only think of 3 (maybe all 4, but I'm not too sure) other than Aps that fit but it's been ages since I last played and I think for one of them the random encounters only start after the fight so it probably doesn't count. The most obvious one is Materia Keeper, and I think another equally obvious two would be a pair of optional bosses. For reference, the other three I can think of are Red Dragon, RW and Lost Number. E; Actually if the second one would count then so too should DW and arguably UW which would make it 6 or even 7 total so I don't even loving know which ones are right and which ones aren't. Maybe RW and UW are wrong on account of being optional but that would discount Lost Number too... (spoiler tagged stuff is just boss names, most of which don't mean anything even in context. The ones that might be actual proper spoilers are abbreviated so unless you know them already they're still meaningless) Lotus Aura fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Jun 10, 2011 |
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Dragonatrix posted:Off-hand, I can only think of 3 (maybe all 4, but I'm not too sure) other than Aps that fit but it's been ages since I last played and I think for one of them the random encounters only start after the fight so it probably doesn't count. The most obvious one is Materia Keeper, and I think another equally obvious two would be a pair of optional bosses. For reference, the other three I can think of are Red Dragon, RW and Lost Number. E; Actually if the second one would count then so too should DW and arguably UW which would make it 6 or even 7 total so I don't even loving know which ones are right and which ones aren't. Maybe RW and UW are wrong on account of being optional but that would discount Lost Number too... (spoiler tagged stuff is just boss names, most of which don't mean anything even in context. The ones that might be actual proper spoilers are abbreviated so unless you know them already they're still meaningless) I don't know the name but there's also the two-headed dragon in the ice cave.
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I'm pretty sure by getting most of the mid-tier stuff you can get Don to choose Tifa instead of Cloud or Aeris.
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Dragonatrix posted:Boss stuff I have encountered Birth as an ambush before. UW and RW wouldn't count because of how you have to encounter them, and I don't think Red Dragon counts because there are no encounters enabled in the room when you fight him, only after. Other than that those are the exact ones I thought of.
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Does the Midgar Zolom count as a boss? I feel dirty for joining the spoiler tag fest.
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tarepanda posted:I've never seen that kanji used that way. "dirt" and "dirty" aren't interchangeable the same way as they are in English as far as I know. not specifically - it's a poor play on words. As in "earth/mud mouth" (the game is very tongue in cheek. For example, "pit trap".) I think the FF7 international version fixed some script errors as well. I know off hand of a few game mechanics (some simple, such as a different pause menu, to some other complex issues) that can only be produced in the original japanese version. It's been awhile since I've played it in the original Japanese, though.
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Can't you exploit the "no escape" clause in the Aps battle by running away when he summons the wave from behind you? Normally, when you're running away from the enemies, I believe any attacks that hit you while you have your back to them do double damage. I know I always tried using that to my advantage in this battle to avoid the double damage, but I don't remember whether it worked or not.
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Nidoking posted:Can't you exploit the "no escape" clause in the Aps battle by running away when he summons the wave from behind you? Normally, when you're running away from the enemies, I believe any attacks that hit you while you have your back to them do double damage. I know I always tried using that to my advantage in this battle to avoid the double damage, but I don't remember whether it worked or not. I never tried it in this battle, but I do remember that if you were ambushed by a random encounter you could just hit L1 and R1 and run for a split second, then release and everyone would turn around and avoid getting back attacked.
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This LP is loving amazing so far. I really need to find my memory stick so I can continue playing this on my PSP. So this isn't drive-by praise, a slightly relevant link: Brentalfloss turns the creepiness of Don Corneo up to 11. ... although Black Materia in general is amazing. (WARNING: THE REST OF THE LINKED ALBUM CONTAINS SPOILERS)
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Grinnblade posted:This LP is loving amazing so far. I really need to find my memory stick so I can continue playing this on my PSP. Oh Brentalfloss, you're amazing.  Elentor posted:Oh God, this is a thing of beauty. "YES %&*@! I'M AN ATTRACTIVE GIRL NOW WHERE'S TIFA dammit I'm a 1st-class SOLDIER I deserve better than this poo poo"
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VietTam posted:I have encountered Birth as an ambush before. UW and RW wouldn't count because of how you have to encounter them, and I don't think Red Dragon counts because there are no encounters enabled in the room when you fight him, only after. I wouldn't have expected Birth to be one but I barely even remember that at all. Can't say I've experienced any bosses as an ambush though, so I'm just going from memory at this point which doesn't say much. Red Dragon is the one I was thinking of with the encounters afterwards, though I don't stick around in that room and have only had a random in it maybe once or twice. I figured UW probably wouldn't count, but I thought RW almost definitely would. I suppose how you reach it is what stops it from counting.
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