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SadWhaleFamily
May 1, 2007



Dead Reckoning posted:

If I take 0000 steel wool to those, do I risk damaging the finish?

Nope, unless you scrub at it with the same force as a porn-addicted dude banging a chick for the first time. Use some oil and gently scrub and your gun's finish will be fine.

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infrared35
Jan 12, 2005

border patrol qt


Plaster Town Cop

Just got an e-mail notification that Beretta USA has 15-round PX4 Compact 9mm mags back in stock. I've been waiting on those for about six months, so if anybody wants some, better jump on them. They're $44 each, but the price drops to $40 each if you order two or more.

Kennebago
Nov 12, 2007

van de schande is bevrijd
hij die met walkuren rijd


Can anyone compare pre-F Beretta 84s to post-F guns? I've read in a couple places now that F guns aren't quite as nice as the older ones, but I have zero evidence or reason to think that'd be true.

I am pretty willing to think they come off as classier, what with wood grips and and bluing and a manual safety. I know I picked a BB over an F for those reasons.

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004



SadWhaleFamily posted:

Nope, unless you scrub at it with the same force as a porn-addicted dude banging a chick for the first time. Use some oil and gently scrub and your gun's finish will be fine.

How can he damage the finish if he only scrubs it for 6 seconds?

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011


New (used) Beretta day:



"Good condition" may have been a bit generous.

BrianM87
Oct 30, 2006
I keep missing. Are you sure the bullets work?

Dead Reckoning posted:

New (used) Beretta day:



"Good condition" may have been a bit generous.



Can someone clarify something for me? That little chunk missing from the firing pin, is that normal? I was about to get a Beretta 84B from my local shop, and the firing pin looked almost exactly like that one in the photo. They assumed it was broken and sent it to get inspected and replaced. Is that simply the way they are cut? Because it seems kind of strange.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005

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Plaster Town Cop

I think that's just a .380 Beretta thing. My newer 84F and 85F also look like that, but the 81 (.32 ACP) doesn't.

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011


Fuuuck

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005

border patrol qt


Plaster Town Cop


Yup.

I wish there was a cross between and

Or sort of a starefap meets "shut up and take my money"

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011


Why doesn't Beretta make nice things anymore?

Kommienzuspadt
Apr 28, 2004

U like it



I don't get it. Why don't all berettas have that awesome safety?

Flikken
Oct 22, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it


Kommienzuspadt posted:

I don't get it. Why don't all berettas have that awesome safety?

I want to blame the Department of Defense, I don't know if it is their fault but I still want to blame them.

Naramyth
Jan 22, 2009

Australia cares about cunts. Including this one.


infrared35
Jan 12, 2005

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Plaster Town Cop

If somebody buys that, I'll trade them my SIG 556 for it.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005

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Plaster Town Cop

Double-postin'!

Beretta just announced the Pico, apparently even smaller than the Nano. Available in .380 and .32 ACP. Looks like it has pretty snappy recoil in .380.

Outside Dawg
Feb 24, 2013


infrared35 posted:

Double-postin'!

Beretta just announced the Pico, apparently even smaller than the Nano. Available in .380 and .32 ACP. Looks like it has pretty snappy recoil in .380.

Looks a lot better than the Nano, I like that all you need to do is swap barrels to change calibers.

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

THERE'S FASCISM IN MY GIANT ROBOT ANIMES


Flikken posted:

I want to blame the Department of Defense, I don't know if it is their fault but I still want to blame them.

I'm not 100% sure, but the story I was told is that one of the conditions Beretta was given for the 92 being accepted as the new US military sidearm was turning the safety into a decocker, which necessitated moving it to the slide. At the same time, Beretta sold their brazilian factory to Taurus, which is why the PT92 still has a frame safety instead of a slide decocker.

So, yes, blame the DoD.

DookieSandwich
Nov 14, 2012


Blame Beretta. The slide safety existed before the XM9 trials, it was introduced in the 92S model in 1976.

Even if they had to move the safety to the slide, they could had easily made it decocker only. Look at the French PAMAS G1 which was adopted soon after we adopted the M9. Beretta had no problem modifying their design for the French.

DookieSandwich fucked around with this message at 08:26 on May 4, 2013

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011




Is there anything inherently wrong with a no-suffix or "pre-b" cheetah? Conversely does the lack of a FPB improve the trigger like on a CZ?

thermobollocks
Jul 5, 2009

GET A DILLON

mr. stefan posted:

necessitated moving it to the slide.

It doesn't. The slide mounted version is just cheaper.

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005

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Plaster Town Cop

CDNN ad shows excellent to like new stainless 92FSs for $489 and a limited number of "blued" guns for $429. GO.

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd


Hey Beretta thread, just wanted to pop in to say that I qual'd today and clapped out M9s are some of the worst guns on the face of the planet. Think every negative adjective you can think of to describe a trigger, and that basically describes the trigger on that particular gun.

Like seriously someone send me a 92D or something to redeem Berettas for me because everything about the M9 is awful (except for the hard use finish wear, that was pretty cool I guess.)

DookieSandwich
Nov 14, 2012


Bruniton is one of the worse gun finishes on the market.

Flikken
Oct 22, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it


iyaayas01 posted:

Hey Beretta thread, just wanted to pop in to say that I qual'd today and clapped out M9s are some of the worst guns on the face of the planet. Think every negative adjective you can think of to describe a trigger, and that basically describes the trigger on that particular gun.

Like seriously someone send me a 92D or something to redeem Berettas for me because everything about the M9 is awful (except for the hard use finish wear, that was pretty cool I guess.)

Just saying that CATM student M9's are easily the worst M9's I've used in the US military. Don't judge that weapon by them. Clapped out doesn't even begin to describe them.

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd


Flikken posted:

Just saying that CATM student M9's are easily the worst M9's I've used in the US military. Don't judge that weapon by them. Clapped out doesn't even begin to describe them.

I wasn't shooting a CATM weapon, since I'm deploying soon I drew the weapon I'm deploying with from LRS and shot with that so the CATM dudes could do the pre-deployment inspection on it while I was there (which basically consisted of some SrA going "yup, that sure is a gun" and then writing the serial down. I don't think he even did a function check.)

It was still pretty clapped out but yeah, wasn't nearly as bad as some of the student guns. A couple were literally falling apart.

Flikken
Oct 22, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it


iyaayas01 posted:

I wasn't shooting a CATM weapon, since I'm deploying soon I drew the weapon I'm deploying with from LRS and shot with that so the CATM dudes could do the pre-deployment inspection on it while I was there (which basically consisted of some SrA going "yup, that sure is a gun" and then writing the serial down. I don't think he even did a function check.)

It was still pretty clapped out but yeah, wasn't nearly as bad as some of the student guns. A couple were literally falling apart.

before i deployed in the army we sent our weapons to the depot and they swapped in nearly all new springs. made a world of difference. The air force doesn't do that and CATM is lazy.

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011


It's uncommon and not made anymore so it's totally worth as much as a Kongsberg Colt QED

In a sane world, a G-SD should not be asking the same number of digits as a 96 with original compensator. Then again a stock CZ-85 Combat went for $1,575 last week so perhaps his optimism isn't totally batshit. Also,

SinistralRifleman posted:

About 10 years ago I was selling a Mossberg 500 at a gun show and it kept getting looks but no takers. Then I wrote "SOCOM" on the tag and the next gun show cretin that looked at it bought it

Dead Reckoning fucked around with this message at 20:43 on May 11, 2013

BrianM87
Oct 30, 2006
I keep missing. Are you sure the bullets work?

I finally just picked up my 84B. Does anyone know where I can get some slimmer grips for it?

Outside Dawg
Feb 24, 2013


What is the general consensus on the Beretta Cheetah line? Are there models to be avoided or are there some that are better, and stand out from the others?

DookieSandwich
Nov 14, 2012


I heard the Cheetah was discontinued. Next one I see, I'm definately snatching it up.

BrianM87
Oct 30, 2006
I keep missing. Are you sure the bullets work?

Are you looking for an 84, or 85? If you are looking for an 84, you wont find one cheaper than this guy.

Outside Dawg
Feb 24, 2013


Either or. Not sure as to the differences between the 84 and the 85 though.

Sixgun Strumpet
Feb 16, 2009

Heh, yeah, 'round here I call myself The Enabler. I suspect pretty much everyone wishes they could be me -- I'm kind of a big deal, you see.


The correct choice is Beretta 86

infrared35
Jan 12, 2005

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Plaster Town Cop

Sixgun Strumpet posted:

The correct choice is Beretta 86



If they made that in a double-stack, my wife would probably ditch her 84F.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011




Outside Dawg posted:

Either or. Not sure as to the differences between the 84 and the 85 though.

84 is double stack, 85 is single stack.

hangedman
Dec 20, 2003

Fish out of water

Outside Dawg posted:

What is the general consensus on the Beretta Cheetah line? Are there models to be avoided or are there some that are better, and stand out from the others?

I've shot one of the very first ones and one of the later FS models. They're all quite nice. Hand-filling, generally soft recoil for .380, surprisingly usable and smooth DA mode, good 3-dot sights.

Note that he original designs were meant to be carried cocked-and-locked. Though it might be heresy to say, and because I do like the DA mode on the Series 80s so much, I'd actually prefer one of the FS models with the safety / decocker setup.

Vorlonesque
Sep 17, 2005

Killing planets since 1876

Dead Reckoning posted:

It's uncommon and not made anymore so it's totally worth as much as a Kongsberg Colt QED

In a sane world, a G-SD should not be asking the same number of digits as a 96 with original compensator. Then again a stock CZ-85 Combat went for $1,575 last week so perhaps his optimism isn't totally batshit. Also,

Yeah, I looked at that same pistol and immediately moved on...but somebody may pay that...people have payed crazy amounts of money before.

Edit: that having been said, at a sane price I'd be tempted (not at that price) as I'd like to have a 92G-SD or Beretta 92 Elite II at some point (I like the idea of the 92G and I like the idea of a brigadier slide on said gun just for fun).

Outside Dawg
Feb 24, 2013


Thanks for the info guys.

IuniusBrutus
Jul 24, 2010



Do all 92G have the enlarged hammer pins?

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infrared35
Jan 12, 2005

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Plaster Town Cop

IuniusBrutus posted:

Do all 92G have the enlarged hammer pins?

Technically the G design came out a couple years before the FS revision, but to my knowledge the G series guns didn't see widespread sales in the U.S. until later (the G was designed for a foreign contract). Anecdotal evidence and all, but I've never seen a G gun here in the U.S. that was made before about '95.

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